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iLOVElamp
07-25-2005, 03:58 PM
im tired of coming onto this website and reading things posted agianst america hearing anti america sayings and what not. if it were not for america many people would be under rule by a foriegn power of a truly evil ruler. if it were not for america the world would have most likely been takin over by hitler, if it were not for america canada would be controlled by the U.S.S.R., mexico would be under spanish rule, much of the world would live under comunism. so all the people who have a problem with america are a bunch of fuckin pussy's in my view. juts because we live in a country that isnt afriad to stand up for what we believe were hated. its not our fault u live in a country run by a bunch of fucking pussy's.

XTC
07-25-2005, 03:59 PM
Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism. And I know, at least, that I have never posted anything "Anti" American.

Psycho4Bud
07-25-2005, 04:00 PM
im tired of coming onto this website and reading things posted agianst america hearing anti america sayings and what not. if it were not for america many people would be under rule by a foriegn power of a truly evil ruler. if it were not for america the world would have most likely been takin over by hitler, if it were not for america canada would be controlled by the U.S.S.R., mexico would be under spanish rule, much of the world would live under comunism. so all the people who have a problem with america are a bunch of fuckin pussy's in my view. juts because we live in a country that isnt afriad to stand up for what we believe were hated. its not our fault u live in a country run by a bunch of fucking pussy's.


Well said!!!!!!

iLOVElamp
07-25-2005, 04:07 PM
i didnt mean to say that every one was being anti american but there are many people out there who are and they really judt dont know what there saying so for those people i direct my comment on shutting the fuck up

amsterdam
07-25-2005, 04:16 PM
i use to get mad about it,but then i realized that they are the reason the party that represents those type of people have zero say in Govt. anymore,and after next year they will have even less.

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 04:35 PM
im tired of coming onto this website and reading things posted agianst america hearing anti america sayings and what not. if it were not for america many people would be under rule by a foriegn power of a truly evil ruler. if it were not for america the world would have most likely been takin over by hitler, if it were not for america canada would be controlled by the U.S.S.R., mexico would be under spanish rule, much of the world would live under comunism. so all the people who have a problem with america are a bunch of fuckin pussy's in my view. juts because we live in a country that isnt afriad to stand up for what we believe were hated. its not our fault u live in a country run by a bunch of fucking pussy's.

everybody pay attention to the newbie. :rolleyes:

Beeblebrox.420
07-25-2005, 04:41 PM
everybody pay attention to the newbie. :rolleyes: You were a newbie once. Was your first post worthless? Was your eleventh? When did your posts take on importance and value? I ask only for purposes of information. I'd just like to know when one's posts gain worth.

iLOVElamp
07-25-2005, 04:41 PM
just because im new to posting doesnt mean i havent read these posts before and uve only been posting for four and a half months and as far as i care u dont know anything u just talk out of ur ass and by the way ur intellectual level fails to come close to mine so dont even try that ur uncultured bull shit on me

pisshead
07-25-2005, 05:17 PM
Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism. And I know, at least, that I have never posted anything "Anti" American.the sad thing is that dissent has turned into being 'anti-american'...i have never posted anything anti-american either.

it seems to me that amsterdam could be considered anti-american...he thinks any opposing view in government is bad and that we shouldn't have it.

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 05:19 PM
You were a newbie once. Was your first post worthless? Was your eleventh? When did your posts take on importance and value? I ask only for purposes of information. I'd just like to know when one's posts gain worth.

When that person earns some stripes. and i certainly didnt make my first post accusatory nor did i thoughtlessly make it one block of a paragraph while not proofreading.

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 05:20 PM
just because im new to posting doesnt mean i havent read these posts before and uve only been posting for four and a half months and as far as i care u dont know anything u just talk out of ur ass and by the way ur intellectual level fails to come close to mine so dont even try that ur uncultured bull shit on me

trust me...i know i'll never be on YOUR intellectual level.

ermitonto
07-25-2005, 05:24 PM
You have to distinguish between the American government and the American people. The American government is a bureaucracy of self-serving aristocrats, while the masses are just trying to get on with their daily lives. People accuse me of being anti-American because I don't think bigger cages and longer chains is enough, because I criticize the government which is replacing malevolent leaders with slightly less malevolent leaders, as if I were somehow opposed to the entirety of America and the 280 million people inside it.

I'm not. America is a beautiful place, Americans are generally nice people, and we have accomplished tons of things we can be proud of, but the current bureaucracy is not one of them.

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 05:39 PM
You have to distinguish between the American government and the American people. The American government is a bureaucracy of self-serving aristocrats, while the masses are just trying to get on with their daily lives. People accuse me of being anti-American because I don't think bigger cages and longer chains is enough, because I criticize the government which is replacing malevolent leaders with slightly less malevolent leaders, as if I were somehow opposed to the entirety of America and the 280 million people inside it.

I'm not. America is a beautiful place, Americans are generally nice people, and we have accomplished tons of things we can be proud of, but the current bureaucracy is not one of them.


that's what ive been trying to say to people.

all i get are accusations of being some kkind of freedom-hating tinpot canadian terrorist hell-bent on spreading the maple syrup way of life across the globe :rolleyes:

amsterdam
07-25-2005, 05:49 PM
maple syrup way of life,thats a good one.one of my team people is from canada,i will use that at lunch.

Twoshots
07-25-2005, 06:04 PM
Am I glad nobody is slating the Brits (Yet)..lol

Are we an equal with America..helped your asses out a lot I seem to remember..
I bet somebody says "When"..

PS.
T.Blair should be hung, drawn and quartered for treason...on TV.

Join the EU = Pah another form of communism...

Funken Monken
07-25-2005, 06:10 PM
if it were not for america the world would have most likely been takin over by hitler

Wow! Thats quite an intellectual muscle you are flexing there, however I must just point something out to you - THATS COMPLETE SHIT!!!!

Dont believe me? Well, I'll tell you what, go to you nearesr independantly funded library and look up BATTLE OF BRITAIN

No flames mate, just advice, from an academic, that if you are going to toat stuff like that aorund, give it some backing. And what I've quoted you as saying, is complete crap.

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 06:13 PM
maple syrup way of life,thats a good one.one of my team people is from canada,i will use that at lunch.

when you're in cuba, stop in at cafe' guantanamo. they've got the best fried chicken and all the wilted bananas you can eat.

i think they're a bit racist though...they only seem to let in arabs.

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 06:16 PM
Wow! Thats quite an intellectual muscle you are flexing there, however I must just point something out to you - THATS COMPLETE SHIT!!!!

Dont believe me? Well, I'll tell you what, go to you nearesr independantly funded library and look up BATTLE OF BRITAIN

No flames mate, just advice, from an academic, that if you are going to toat stuff like that aorund, give it some backing. And what I've quoted you as saying, is complete crap.

it cant be true if noone from the bush administration said so. it's a given fact. didnt you notice how the government funded and controlled media never reports on it? it must not be true.


bahhhhhh....bahhhhh....more forced vaccinations....more police in places where they arent needed....bahhh bahh...

Funken Monken
07-25-2005, 06:25 PM
Thats why I stated 'independant library' mate!!

Thats right, no one in the Bush Admin admits, it, it aint true, not even if an angry scots man with a collection of damming evidence can blow most bush admin statements out the window!
(dont get me wrong, I think Galloway is a twat, but he did pin it to you Govt)

highinspain
07-25-2005, 06:30 PM
Bush's cure for terrorism is a cause of the epidemic. The doctor is spreading the disease. The longer we stay in Iraq, the greater the number of suicide attacks we can expect. The sooner we get our troops out, the sooner terrorism over there and over here will end. So the data proves. This is the precise opposite of what George Bush argues and believes.

Everything that comes out of the white house is bull shit

And everthing that comes out of the months of the Faux news viewers is even more bull shit

i do appreciate the history lessons thought I just think that current events are a bit more important considering the mess we are in

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 07:03 PM
Thats why I stated 'independant library' mate!!

Thats right, no one in the Bush Admin admits, it, it aint true, not even if an angry scots man with a collection of damming evidence can blow most bush admin statements out the window!
(dont get me wrong, I think Galloway is a twat, but he did pin it to you Govt)


lol. no man i was agreeing with you by being sarcastic.

Stedric
07-25-2005, 07:16 PM
I'm not Anti-American, I'm Anti-War and Anti-Souless Corporate Greed. I'm also in many ways a hypocrite, before anyone points that out.

bhallg2k
07-25-2005, 07:58 PM
It always strikes me as highly comedic, and somewhat ironic, when someone who says they love America tells someone else to stop speaking out.

That whole "free speech" thing's a bitch, huh?

pisshead
07-25-2005, 08:03 PM
yeah, we need less free speech and less opposition to giant government tyranny. and we have to bomb other countries to protect that.

only after the constitution is destroyed will we finally be safe from terrorism.

what are people going to say when we have federal police running checkpoints to get in and out of cities where we have to present our national id cards to travel, and military searching people on the streets, and checkpoints in malls.

i'm sorry sir, you're on a terrorism watch list, you can't buy this food.

when our economic base is totally destroyed and we're issued gray uniforms and we're all doing national service to get credits on our id cards, answering to big brother when our phones ring that special ring.

even if people believe george bush is honest and loving and cares about freedom, why are we putting in the framework by which some dictator can get into power and abuse these things...as if that won't ever happen.

imagine if hitler had millions of cameras and national id cards with RFID readers all around the country. it would have only made the purge that much easier.

Psycho4Bud
07-25-2005, 08:09 PM
yeah, we need less free speech and less opposition to giant government tyranny. and we have to bomb other countries to protect that.

only after the constitution is destroyed will we finally be safe from terrorism.

what are people going to say when we have federal police running checkpoints to get in and out of cities where we have to present our national id cards to travel, and military searching people on the streets, and checkpoints in malls.

i'm sorry sir, you're on a terrorism watch list, you can't buy this food.

when our economic base is totally destroyed and we're issued gray uniforms and we're all doing national service to get credits on our id cards, answering to big brother when our phones ring that special ring.

even if people believe george bush is honest and loving and cares about freedom, why are we putting in the framework by which some dictator can get into power and abuse these things...as if that won't ever happen.

imagine if hitler had millions of cameras and national id cards with RFID readers all around the country. it would have only made the purge that much easier.

Your going to LOVE this!!!

In California, several prisoners were identified as members of the security threat group, EME, or Mexican Mafia. They were brought to the health services unit at Pelican Bay and tranquilized with advanced sedatives developed by our Cambridge, Massachussetts laboratories. The implant prodecure takes 60-90 minutes depending upon the experience of the technician. We are working on a device which will reduce that time by as much as 60%. The results of implants on 8 prisoners yielded the following results:


Implants served as surveillance monitoring device for threat group activity.
Implants disabled two subjects during an assault on correctional staff.
Universal side effects in all 8 test subjects revealed that when implant was set to 116 MHz all subjects became lethargic and slept an average of 18-22 hours per day.
All subjects refused recreation periods for 14 days during the 116 MHz test evaluation, 7 of the 8 subjects did not exercise, in the cell or out of the cell and 5 of the 8 subjects refused showers up to three days at a time.
Each subject was monitored for aggressive activitiy during the test period and the finding are conclusive that 7 out of the 8 test subjects exhibited no agression, even when provoked.
Each subject experienced only minor bleeding from the nose and ears 48 hours after the implant due to initial adjustment.
Each subject had no knowledge of the implant for the test period and each implant was retrieved under the guise of medical treatment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/2020chip.html

Psycho4Bud
07-25-2005, 08:12 PM
And Phase 2:


Bio-chip implant arrives
for cashless transactions
Announcement at global security confab unveils syringe-injectable ID microchip


At a global security conference held today in Paris, an American company announced a new syringe-injectable microchip implant for humans, designed to be used as a fraud-proof payment method for cash and credit-card transactions.

The chip implant is being presented as an advance over credit cards and smart cards, which, absent biometrics and appropriate safeguard technologies, are subject to theft, resulting in identity fraud.

Identity fraud costs the banking and financial industry some $48 billion a year, and consumers $5 billion, according to 2002 Federal Trade Commission estimates.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35766

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 08:12 PM
Your going to LOVE this!!!

In California, several prisoners were identified as members of the security threat group, EME, or Mexican Mafia. They were brought to the health services unit at Pelican Bay and tranquilized with advanced sedatives developed by our Cambridge, Massachussetts laboratories. The implant prodecure takes 60-90 minutes depending upon the experience of the technician. We are working on a device which will reduce that time by as much as 60%. The results of implants on 8 prisoners yielded the following results:


Implants served as surveillance monitoring device for threat group activity.
Implants disabled two subjects during an assault on correctional staff.
Universal side effects in all 8 test subjects revealed that when implant was set to 116 MHz all subjects became lethargic and slept an average of 18-22 hours per day.
All subjects refused recreation periods for 14 days during the 116 MHz test evaluation, 7 of the 8 subjects did not exercise, in the cell or out of the cell and 5 of the 8 subjects refused showers up to three days at a time.
Each subject was monitored for aggressive activitiy during the test period and the finding are conclusive that 7 out of the 8 test subjects exhibited no agression, even when provoked.
Each subject experienced only minor bleeding from the nose and ears 48 hours after the implant due to initial adjustment.
Each subject had no knowledge of the implant for the test period and each implant was retrieved under the guise of medical treatment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/2020chip.html


mexican mafia huh? how did they even get in the country? i hope it wasnt through the wide open borders bush refuses to do anything about.

Psycho4Bud
07-25-2005, 08:14 PM
mexican mafia huh? how did they even get in the country? i hope it wasnt through the wide open borders bush refuses to do anything about.

Another piece of intellect by Sir Nic...BWAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

P.S. Try putting up a link of useful info sometime. :D

nicholasstanko
07-25-2005, 08:15 PM
Another piece of intellect by Sir Nic...BWAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

P.S. Try putting up a link of useful info sometime. :D

so you disagree? you believe the borders are safe and perfectly fine?

Psycho4Bud
07-25-2005, 09:05 PM
so you disagree? you believe the borders are safe and perfectly fine?

Depends, are you still in Canada? :D

Funken Monken
07-26-2005, 07:52 PM
lol. no man i was agreeing with you by being sarcastic.

Nice!
Dammit, its a shame sarcasm is never as obvious as you want it to be in text

nicholasstanko
07-26-2005, 08:18 PM
Nice!
Dammit, its a shame sarcasm is never as obvious as you want it to be in text


i hear that. next time i'll put an emoticon next to it.

makor01
07-27-2005, 12:06 AM
mexican mafia huh? how did they even get in the country? i hope it wasnt through the wide open borders bush refuses to do anything about.


you know man...for not being an american citizen you sure do a fuckload of bitching aboot it!!! I hereby dub Nich an honorary american for superior bitching skills and absolutely no clue what the hell hes talking aboot.

Youll fit in well here my unfriend.

nicholasstanko
07-27-2005, 02:17 PM
you know man...for not being an american citizen you sure do a fuckload of bitching aboot it!!! I hereby dub Nich an honorary american for superior bitching skills and absolutely no clue what the hell hes talking aboot.

Youll fit in well here my unfriend.


You're a fool. my people are dying in afghanistan for your war. When everything is going right, you want to tell us to hop right in the front seat...when we ask what's going on it's "shut the fuck up. stupid canadians." Yes, yes makor. We know about american logic and values now. Support any and all troops as long as they're american.

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 03:10 PM
my people are dying in afghanistan for your war.

Amazing! This war was voted in by the U.N....NOT our war. Besides that, this is from one of your previous posts,"i'm not justifying or "supporting" canadians". So you don't support Canadians but their your people? PLEASE explain!

nicholasstanko
07-27-2005, 04:18 PM
Amazing! This war was voted in by the U.N....NOT our war. Besides that, this is from one of your previous posts,"i'm not justifying or "supporting" canadians". So you don't support Canadians but their your people? PLEASE explain!

No it wasn't. The U.S. authorized war before the UN even voted. where do you imagine your information from?

I meant I'm not trying to put your country down while pretending mine is so fucking fragrant.

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 04:59 PM
No it wasn't. The U.S. authorized war before the UN even voted. where do you imagine your information from?

I meant I'm not trying to put your country down while pretending mine is so fucking fragrant.

Post 11 September
In the escalation of the conflict in Afghanistan following the 11 September terrorist attack on the United States by the Afghan-based Al Qaeda group, the Security Council expressed support for the efforts of the Afghan people to replace the Taliban regime, once again condemned for allowing Afghanistan to be used as a base for the export of terrorism and for providing safe haven to Usama bin Laden.

On 1 October, in his address to a special week-long session of the General Assembly on terrorism, Secretary-General Kofi Annan said, "As we summon the will and the resources needed to succeed in the struggle against terrorism, we must also care for all the victims of terrorism, whether they are the direct targets or other populations who will be affected by our common effort. That is why I have launched an alert to donors about the potential need for much more generous humanitarian assistance to the people of Afghanistan."
http://www.un.org/News/dh/latest/afghan/un-afghan-history.shtml#postsept

11 September Terrorist attacks kill some 3,000 people in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington, D.C.

12 September In a meeting with his National Security teams, President Bush declares the attacks an act of war against the United States. Osama bin Laden is named as the enemy mastermind.

14 September Congress authorizes the president to "use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks."

19 September The military issues orders for deployment in Afghanistan. The ruling Taliban denies that bin Laden is in their country.

20 September President Bush addresses both houses of Congress and announces war on terrorism.

6 October President Bush warns the Taliban that "time is running out" to give up bin Laden.

War begins

7 October Time's up. U.S. cruise missiles strike targets in Afghanistan. The military phase of Operation Enduring Freedom has begun.
http://www.warchronicle.com/terrorwar/news/timeline.htm

I imagine my information from reading...try it sometime! Now back to my original question:

this is from one of your previous posts,"i'm not justifying or "supporting" canadians". So you don't support Canadians but their "your" people? PLEASE explain!

nicholasstanko
07-27-2005, 05:37 PM
Post 11 September
In the escalation of the conflict in Afghanistan following the 11 September terrorist attack on the United States by the Afghan-based Al Qaeda group, the Security Council expressed support for the efforts of the Afghan people to replace the Taliban regime, once again condemned for allowing Afghanistan to be used as a base for the export of terrorism and for providing safe haven to Usama bin Laden.

On 1 October, in his address to a special week-long session of the General Assembly on terrorism, Secretary-General Kofi Annan said, "As we summon the will and the resources needed to succeed in the struggle against terrorism, we must also care for all the victims of terrorism, whether they are the direct targets or other populations who will be affected by our common effort. That is why I have launched an alert to donors about the potential need for much more generous humanitarian assistance to the people of Afghanistan."
http://www.un.org/News/dh/latest/afghan/un-afghan-history.shtml#postsept

11 September Terrorist attacks kill some 3,000 people in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington, D.C.

12 September In a meeting with his National Security teams, President Bush declares the attacks an act of war against the United States. Osama bin Laden is named as the enemy mastermind.

14 September Congress authorizes the president to "use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks."

19 September The military issues orders for deployment in Afghanistan. The ruling Taliban denies that bin Laden is in their country.

20 September President Bush addresses both houses of Congress and announces war on terrorism.

6 October President Bush warns the Taliban that "time is running out" to give up bin Laden.

War begins

7 October Time's up. U.S. cruise missiles strike targets in Afghanistan. The military phase of Operation Enduring Freedom has begun.
http://www.warchronicle.com/terrorwar/news/timeline.htm

I imagine my information from reading...try it sometime! Now back to my original question:

this is from one of your previous posts,"i'm not justifying or "supporting" canadians". So you don't support Canadians but their "your" people? PLEASE explain!


so where does it say the u.n. voted before the u.s. got authority from congress to go to war.

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 05:50 PM
Read Forest Read.....October 1 the U.N. gave a thumbs up and on Oct 7 we sent a military response. Now will you answer the initial question?

nicholasstanko
07-27-2005, 06:07 PM
Read Forest Read.....October 1 the U.N. gave a thumbs up and on Oct 7 we sent a military response. Now will you answer the initial question?


i did. scroll up.

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 06:22 PM
i did. scroll up.

Now our congress has to wait for a U.N. resolution before they can make a decision? Get a grip Nicky! WE didn't attack until AFTER the U.N. resolution. It's a bitch when your wrong, AGAIN!!! :D This ones for you....BWAAAAHHHHH

amsterdam
07-27-2005, 06:25 PM
what a waste of time that year at the league of nation was.cant blame those countries like france though,i wouldnt want the U.S. to kick the shit out of a country i had a couple billion dollars invested in(around 15 billion.)

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 06:28 PM
Tell ya what, if it were up to me, the next step after Iraq would be France. Chirac would have first hand knowledge of the destructive force that a cruise missle can bring! :D

amsterdam
07-27-2005, 06:30 PM
i think the funniest thing i ever heard was when Reagen "accidentaly" bombed the French consulates office when they wouldnt give us fly over permission.too funny.

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 06:33 PM
Whoooops!!! :D

amsterdam
07-27-2005, 06:34 PM
that guy had balls.

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 06:40 PM
After enduring the Carter years we REALLY needed Reagan!! Like you said, the man had balls!!

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 06:42 PM
Just got this one off the Investorsiraq forum:


A man goes into an adult entertainment shop and asks the assistant for an inflatable doll.

"Would you like male of female?" "Female, please."
"Would you like Black, or White?" "White, please."
"Would you like Christian or Muslim?"

This question confused the man . . . and he replied,
"What has the religion got to do with it? It's an inflatable doll!"
"Well," explained the assistant, "The Muslim one blows itself up!"

amsterdam
07-27-2005, 06:46 PM
thats funny as shit.my wife will love that one.hope you dont mind if i use it.

Psycho4Bud
07-27-2005, 06:47 PM
You should bop over to that forum and do some reading....sounds like it could be pretty soon at .17!

F L E S H
07-27-2005, 06:49 PM
im tired of coming onto this website and reading things posted agianst america hearing anti america sayings and what not. if it were not for america many people would be under rule by a foriegn power of a truly evil ruler. if it were not for america the world would have most likely been takin over by hitler, if it were not for america canada would be controlled by the U.S.S.R., mexico would be under spanish rule, much of the world would live under comunism. so all the people who have a problem with america are a bunch of fuckin pussy's in my view. juts because we live in a country that isnt afriad to stand up for what we believe were hated. its not our fault u live in a country run by a bunch of fucking pussy's.
I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else. You think I'm anti-American, that's fine, because I think YOU'RE anti-American. Same goes to anyone else tossing that word around. Nobody is more patriotic or more 'morally correct' that the other. You all suck.

amsterdam
07-27-2005, 10:04 PM
I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else. You think I'm anti-American, that's fine, because I think YOU'RE anti-American. Same goes to anyone else tossing that word around. Nobody is more patriotic or more 'morally correct' that the other. You all suck.


that isnt true. :rolleyes:

F L E S H
07-28-2005, 04:07 AM
that isnt true. :rolleyes:
what isn't true? I said a lot of crap in there... it's fun to provoke, sometimes :D

amsterdam
07-28-2005, 01:45 PM
there are more americans that need adjusting than anyone else.

F L E S H
07-28-2005, 02:22 PM
there are more americans that need adjusting than anyone else.
???? what are you talking about?

amsterdam
07-28-2005, 02:34 PM
about the anti-american nonsense.there are more idiot rich white kids who need adjusting than any muslim or arab.the middle eastern terrorists make up like 1% of the arab population.

F L E S H
07-28-2005, 03:33 PM
who said anythig about adjusting? I said i don't need to justify to that other guy... meh, forget it.