How are my girls looking ?

[LOC NAR1958]

First I'd like to say thanks to alot of you here . I have been reading for months and on my first hydro grow. The first 2 pic are of the mother in a tron I have had for every without success. Great for keepping mother alive and well but that's it. the 3'rd pic are 6 clones from mom. I just got an 400MH conversion bulb from discount, Does much better for veg. I almost burned them with HPS. They are about 2 weeks into veg another week and 12/12. It's a drip system and I use distilled water.I make my own. nutes are doing good and I keep and eye on the PH, they seem to like 6.2. My cusin gave me the seed about two and ahalf years ago northern lights from Canada fem seed. One out of two geminated. I have a tendencies to want to trim leaves to promt branch growth. Old tron learning. So what do you think?

[LOC NAR1958]

It put the clones first.

[Zandor]

They look great. But cropping will make them short and bushy too. You don't have the side room to grow out from what I can see. I like the 3-way light setup too btw. The middle picture has good coverage and structure too.

[Garden Knowm]

: )

A handsome bunch!

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks Zandor, I have learned alot from you even though you don,t know it. Been here a while but just registered. The one in the middle is the mother plant showing her sex, and the last one is mom in the phototron. Not much room in there but good for mothers, long term. I can keep her alive for at least 2 years. I made the mistake of going to 18/6 with the tron, most flowers I have seen in a tron in 10 years. I went back to 24/7 to get her to veg for clones. The first pic are the 6 clone under a 400 MH 2 weeks old with drip hydro . Those are the ones I trimmed. I have lots of room there. I'm an old dog with old tron instructions ,hard to brake. But there is alot of branch growth , I can,t beleive how fast hydro grows and recovers from trimming. Again, thanks Zandor and Garden Known. I will be keeping you guys updated with pics and any trouble I run into. My first grow under the 400 HPS was pretty slack, I went with soil (MC) bad choice. 2 out of 6 were female. 1 bagseed and 1 NL. The NL was small but awsome and the bagseed I couldn't let go long enough cause my NL clones were ready. Anyway thanks again and look for my updates. I like it when people keep updating with pic's. It gives you an idea of what looks good and bad. I have seen some awsome pic's , especially you Zandor awsome stuff I doubt I get that big. Well it's hot out here mid atlantic east coast. Best thing I did was AC for my grow room shed, keeps the heat down at least until the wife finds out. LOL

[LOC NAR1958]

UPDATE !
Hydro f'ing rocks. The girls are 14 days into veg, or coarse that's a few more days to root from clone but tomarrow is 3 weeks and then 12/12. Dumped my res a few days ago and now half and half grow and bloom. I will dump in a week or so to go to bloom. I'm also playing the PH up game. I know distilled water takes alot to bring up to PH. Is it the same for RO water? Or are there better nuts that are PH buffered I read that keep it under controll. I'm using dynagro. Anyway welcome to the jungle.

[LOC NAR1958]

And if anyone wants to know yes they are all showing there sex. It's all about the sex baby!! LOL

[Zandor]

You need to get some little lego people, put them in the forest and take pictures.

ROFLMAO

[LOC NAR1958]

I can do that my son has them all, star wars , harry potter. Darth would look good in there. Maybe a wookie on the forest moon of Endoor. LOL

[Zandor]

Now were talking....ROFLMAO

The only problem is when you son go looking for his men..lol

[LOC NAR1958]

From the spider man Gang.

(spiderman) What do you mean, that's what put the green in green goblin.

[LOC NAR1958]

Star wars

(Darth Vader) Never mind about those lost plans, just give me a spark off that light saber mine won't work.

[LOC NAR1958]

Harry's crew

(Harry) Puff Puff pass old man, don't make me get that dementor on your ass.
(Haggid) This bloody backbeak will take an arm off if I don't get some of that..............Ah I shouldn't a said that, shouldn't said that
(Dumbledor) WHY do you think he's demented ?
(Dobby) Dobby would like some too please sir.

[LOC NAR1958]

(son)Hey Dad why do all my leggo guy's have redeye?
Time to send them to the lab for testing!!!

I ain't right LOL

[Zandor]

ROFLMAF...thanks I needed that!

[LOC NAR1958]

Update !!!
1 week into 12/12. I thought I would show how the roots hang in the water , I haven't seen anyone show it.
Oh yea my son said I couldn't play with his lego's any more cause they always have to go to rehab afterwards. LOL

Thanks to many here, This is the best grow for me every.

[Garden Knowm]

do you have airstones in your res... if not, you may want to consider it... it will lesson the chances of root rot, which always sets in sooner or later when roots sit in water..

also maybe some Hydrogen peroxide...

Your plants look GREAT!!!!

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks Garden Knowm, I was thinking the same thing, Kind of like a drip and areoponics at the same time. They look a little yellow under the HPS lights but they are snowy white. I just got my calmag the day before this pic, it looks like it's helping but it's also time for a res change. Thanks again. You can't quite see yet but they are all girls, I just didn't get up close shots. Next update I will, if I can figure out the macro on my cam. OH yea I know I saw it some where but what's the hydrogen peroxide do? And how much per gallon? All I have is the farmacy stuff not the high percent food grade. I showed the roots because I haven't seen any hydro roots on here yet. Unreal how fast they grow.

[Zandor]

Try taking one plant (only one) and trim the roots that are hanging in the water. Trim them above the water line.

Now sit back and see what happens? There is no affect on the root ball and it will not kill the plant. They will grow back quickly so keep them trimmed and see how they grow compared to the others.

If you want to play that is.

Where are the little pot people?

[LOC NAR1958]

Zandor, If you say it works I will play with one and show pics. As for the little guy's they are always there hiding waiting for harvest, But they are small I think I can share. I will update with pics today or tomarrow, been working hard I may need help. Oh and the calmag really helped stabilized my PH. Pics to come.

[AandKdaddy]

I just built the same size aero system out of same tub with 20 misters underside of tub 15 gallons of nutes and 12 inch bubbler on bottom. My plants are 2 weeks old and are on GH 3 part nutes they are in the system now for 4th day and looking healthy. My pH goes up slightly each day. more when I only had 10 gallons of nutes in ther. Now w/ 15 gallons seems to rise slower..3 points in one day..When should I add pH down what pH?...I added 2 gallons plain water in two days seems like thats whats needed 1 gallon day....I am useing RO water 7.0 pH...anyway ...Next week I will be getting a digital cam to show pictures.... Is it safe to post on this site? Can I wait two weeks to change nutes out? Low on money to buy more diamond nector? or can I mix only three part micro/grow/bloom...without diamond nector? only have 1 tsp per gallon of each part right now...Don't wanna burn plants again...Will be getting ppm meter in two weeks...Cant wait for the peice of mind....Big difference since I got the oakton pH meter three days ago!!!! HAPPY GROWING will be posting pics soon

[LOC NAR1958]

This is a very good site to learn. I post pics cause what's the difference when you talk about it. If they want (feds) to chase down every small personal grower the terrorist would have run of the country. They have more important things to do. How much and where did you get your PH meter ? I need one but low on funds lately. Try to keep your PH down I'm sure you seen the levels required. The PPM meter helps greatly. Add nutes and then PH balance. As for the nutes and nector I'm using dyna-gro one part either grow or bloom it's what came with my system, but want to try others. Start your own thread so you can keep us updated with pics and peeps will help with questions. This site is great and don't forget to use the search. I also need to get the growers bible or one of the other good books for refrence.

[Zandor]

I recommend a copy Jorge Cervantes book "Indoor Marijuana Horticulture the indoor Bible" you will use it as a reference for many years to come the ISBN number is 1-878823-29-9.

[LOC NAR1958]

I trimmed the water roots back. Let's see what happens. Day 10 of 12/12.All are showing white hairs, just a few but showing. The root just barely hit water now.

[LOC NAR1958]

Oh Yea, just found a dam illeagle alien in my stuff !! after awhile we broke down the language bairerer and I decided to let him stay and help with the harvest. Cheap wages. LOL. Besides I got a whole group watching him just in case. More to come!!!

[Zandor]

Free labor....ROFLMAO

[latewood]

AandKdaddy...you add you 3 part to distilled water/RO water and ph won't fluctuate as much...you adjust ph down every time you change your reservoir, also you ph adjust your water before you top off in between nutes changeout...hopes this helps

[LOC NAR1958]

Update! The plant I cut the roots on droopped alittle, should be first pic. Only on the top not much though. I just changed the res today and It's been 2 days since I cut them and I can see the roots starting to grow back. It's 12 days into 12/12 and the other pic is the hairs starting all over all six plants, northern lights. It's about time I start getting lucky. Things like growwing any type of plants don't come easy to me. But if you do your home work it can be done. I'm watching them Zandor beside a little droop it's still kicking ass. That's why they call it playing. Thanks much , more updates to come.

[Zandor]

What you should be seeing is the one you trimmed the roots on the main stock will thicken. It will work just a little harder for nutrient uptake and that will make the stock thicker. Thicker stock will increase the over all weight of the finished product. Just keep an eye out. Not every strain likes having it roots messed with. It's not like you are trimming the root ball their just branch roots. It will slow just a bit for a short time but once the stock thickens it will out produce the others.

That's whatâ??s supposed to happen anyway. I just hope the plant reads the same books I do...lol

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks, I knew you had a good reason. I will keep my eye on it and let you know in the next update. so it got a little drooppy So it can make me lots more drooppy, I love it. LOL . THANKS

[LOC NAR1958]

Update! I don't have much time , have to go work ,sucks. Day 16 . Things are still looking good. I trimmed the drooppy leaves and a few others that were blocking the light, seems to have no effect on them , timming that is. Got to go more to come. 16 days and flowers look good, I can't wait till they fatten up.

[Zandor]

Fan leaves regulate internal temperature of the plant, trim with caution.

[BlueCat]

You need to get some little lego people, put them in the forest and take pictures.

ROFLMAO

hahahahaha funny...

Off topic but have you been here Zandor? It is really funny...you reminded me of it.. :D

http://www.thebricktestament.com/

Your plants look great much better than my little Charlie Brown tree... :)

[LOC NAR1958]

I know I'm trying my hardest not to trim but it was only a few. It's hard to let go of the phototrons methodology. My cousin says there a weed treat them like one abuse em and cut all the bang leaves off. Of coarse he is also an idiot because he never had anything look close to my first hydro. He used an ebb and flow, no ppm meter and I don't think he checked ph either. I also think he dies his stuff in the oven, taste green an not like some other dank I have had. I will not trim , I will not trim , I will not trim, I think it's working. LOL
BlueCat, thanks for the compliment. Awsome site dude. I have got to get more time to brush up on my leggo people shots. But what can you do with tempremental actors when it takes so little to get them stoned

[LOC NAR1958]

Update, Some of my leaf tips are showing nute burn, I must of added too much. Just over 1200 ppm. Diluted some with ph balanced water this morning. I am going to flush tomarrow. All in all they don't look bad. The one I trimmed the roots on is kickin ass just the same and stem looks like it's getting thicker.. The tall one is a branch not a cola, but it wants to be. Just over 2 weeks 12/12 and I am amazed. I do not have a green thumb but I can read and take advise from the Guru's. Thanks guy's. More to come. If anyone gets tired of my pics just let me know and I will stop. Wish you were here. LOC NAR

[LOC NAR1958]

Quick update, 22 days into 12/12. I have been flushing for 3 days, alittle nute burn. I just got a PH pen, man what a difference it makes. And the PPM's are up to 600 from just flushing and adjusting the PH. So anyway should of been off to work by now so here's the girls. I caught the end of the nascar race yesterday, Good finnish thought maybe I would do a nascar hot wheels thing. My cousin did the paint job on Ricky Rudd's car he's in Charlotte NC. Graphic arts thing. Zandor I have not trimmed any more leaves and roots are growing back and the stem is thicker. It;s the same as the other shortest one . So I guess it's hanging in there, It's in the lower left corner of all pics. more to come.

[Zandor]

looking good, Mylar will help get light to the lower parts of the plant.

Are you going to add sidelight to fluff up the lower buds when you switch to flower?

How's your labor force doing? hehe

[LOC NAR1958]

Hey, the next grow I'm going to kind of box it in and use mylar. You can't see them but I have 2 side lights that are 75 or 100 watt hps , I will show in next pics. I salvaged them from my bosses yard lights we took down. Wish I had 4 of them. I have worked as an electrician for 20 years finding lighting is not to hard. Wife also works at electric supply house but she hates to help with my hobby. As for the help you know how those imigrants are they come and go. I'm sure he will be there for harvest. LOL

[LOC NAR1958]

This is the end of week 4 and beginning of week 5 12/12. One of the pics shows my side light,There's 2 it needs to be raised up. And I need to get some mylar too. Trichomes are starting to show, I'm learning to use the macro on my camera. Hot here on the east coast ac can barely keep up. It's late more to come. What do you think ? maybe an oz or two. LOL. OH my wife got the bill on my PH pen. It's is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. RO filter system next ? LOL

[latewood]

goodjob locnar...man, when you close those babies in, next grow you are gonna love it
nice looking plants

[likemclever]

Fabulous plantsâ?¦I especially like your little work forceâ?¦.Thanks for sharing them (damn it makes me want to grow).

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks guy's. If I can do it anyone can. We will find out just how much comes of it. I'm not going to leave anything out. Right to the end. I learned alot from other sharing there grows and problems. Trying to decide what the next grow will be. I really like skunk but there's so many kinds It's hard but I need to start about now for the next one. I know it's been asks but where's the best place for female seeds that deliver quick ?

[Stormcooker]

Thanks guy's. If I can do it anyone can. We will find out just how much comes of it. I'm not going to leave anything out. Right to the end. I learned alot from other sharing there grows and problems. Trying to decide what the next grow will be. I really like skunk but there's so many kinds It's hard but I need to start about now for the next one. I know it's been asks but where's the best place for female seeds that deliver quick ?


Dr. Chronics has about 20 or so seed companies that they keep in stock.
I bought seeds from them from Female Seeds .nl . There are at least just female seedbanks there. They delivered to me from London to New York in 6 days. Good stealth, like I just bought a DVD online.

[LOC NAR1958]

thanks man . I will give them a try. My brother has some Jack hearer and northernlights, but now he is pissed at me cause my grow is kicking ass. So I'll get my own. HEHEHEHE. I'll be the man around here come the holidays. It's like a contest to see who has the best. Dr. Chronics here I come. Thanks again

[LOC NAR1958]

End of week 5 start of week 6. Trichomes are half clear half cloudy. My mouth is watering. I got to change res and go to work. more to come.

[Stormcooker]

looks great!!!

[LOC NAR1958]

Update, end of week 6. I will start to flush with PH balanced water today. After close exam of trichomes I would say less than 10 percent are clear. There might be 1 or 2 that are amber kind of. Thousands of them and hard to look at them all. LOL. I think the end of week 7 will be there last .What do you guy's think ?????

Hangman, Hangamn, turn your head awhile I think I see my sisters riding, riding a many a mile...

Maybe the next time you guy's see them they will be hanging up side down.

[HighTillIDie]

give them 8 1/2 weeks fo shooooooooooooooo

they will be GRAVY

[Zandor]

If you are turning amber now then do a good flush they should be ready in about 5 day's or so.

Don't know what HighTillIDie is thinking but if you weight that long you will be way past prime. I guess he must like Amber trichomes because that is what you will get dead and dying trichomes of you wait that long.

[LOC NAR1958]

I will go with the flush and harvest in about 5 days. You have not steered me wrong so far. Then a week or so to cure. One thing I just got my orange bud skunk fem beans from dr chorinic just minutes ago. I'm jumping up and down, just over a week to get here. I'm am germinating afew beans in just a minute. Since I like to play and this is my first hydro how about if I leave the smallest one for another week or 2 and compare the buzz. I tried a small sample yesterday and DAMN it was good. Unless I get greedy then I'll take them all. You know how it is with females, and I mean that in a good way. I'll keep my eye on it and not let it go to far. There will be 2 more updates, 1 of them trimmed and hanging and, 1 of the total wieght cured. And that don't mean dried in the oven. LOL My next grow is orange bud skunk, I like the skunk for some reason. Can't wait. I start a few beans for mothers and clone from those. That way I can get a few grows out of just 2 beans and save the rest. I think next will be blueberry or strawberry cough. What a great hobby this is. more to come

[Zandor]

I will go with the flush and harvest in about 5 days. You have not steered me wrong so far. Then a week or so to cure. One thing I just got my orange bud skunk fem beans from dr chorinic just minutes ago. I'm jumping up and down, just over a week to get here. I'm am germinating afew beans in just a minute. Since I like to play and this is my first hydro how about if I leave the smallest one for another week or 2 and compare the buzz. I tried a small sample yesterday and DAMN it was good. Unless I get greedy then I'll take them all. You know how it is with females, and I mean that in a good way. I'll keep my eye on it and not let it go to far. There will be 2 more updates, 1 of them trimmed and hanging and, 1 of the total wieght cured. And that don't mean dried in the oven. LOL My next grow is orange bud skunk, I like the skunk for some reason. Can't wait. I start a few beans for mothers and clone from those. That way I can get a few grows out of just 2 beans and save the rest. I think next will be blueberry or strawberry cough. What a great hobby this is. more to come
Oh god I think he is hooked on growing! :D

Nice job LOC follow the trichomes LOC follow the trichomes. Yes a late and early harvest of the same plant can have different affects.
The late harvest will not last as long and affect you in a different way. It's fun to play with harvest times sometime.

Happy growing

[LOC NAR1958]

NOT LAST AS LONG !!!!!!!! The sample yesterday seem to last about 4 hours give or take and kind of trippy. like CHONG said, hey man what's in that stuff, no, no don't tell me let it be a surpise. My eyes are on the trichomes my eyes are on the trichomes. Wednesday is a good day to die just not for me sorry girls. The next ones will be redheads. I like redheads. So is there any truth to letting them stay in total darkness for the last 2 or 3 days ???

[Joel]

Leaving your plants in teh dark for the last 2-3 days is a very good technique, while your plants are in the dark they are producing THC. If you put them in hte dark for 2-3 days , you will have a high % of THC on your bud, DO NOT leave in the dark for longer than 3 days ... bud mold AHHH.

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks man I read it somewhere but didn't know if it helped or not, never tried.. Got to be hard to leave them all alone like that. Thanks again.

[LOC NAR1958]

Holly crap batman, my orange bud beans have germed and are coming up. 2 going into 3 days. They are dutch passion from dr chronics awsome. I didn't think they would germ that fast. I hope to have them to harvest by xmas but that will be a new thread. Turned my lights down to 10/14 and then 2 days of dark thursday and friday. My boy spends the night at grandmothers friday. I can work on harvest saturday morning with out him seeing them. work,work, work. I love this kind of work. What's the difference between 50 a quarter and a 100 a quarter ? LOL. Give up ? A good pair of siccors. It don't matter it's all going to stay with me except for a little to rub in my brother and brother in laws face. Always leave them begging for more ( Mae West) Damn Am I that old hardly anyone knows who that is. Probably no one knows where my name LOC NAR comes from. It was a cult like movie for us at one time. Do you know ?

[LOC NAR1958]

Almost he end of a good story. I am tired been up all night having fun trimming. Just a couple pic's before they went down and a few after and trimmed. Ass load of leaf, now I know why you make hash. There was a good plate full of sparse bud didn't show that but will count it in the final wieght. I tried a few of the sparse ones last night late when trimming and damn, parinoia will destroy ya. I can't wait to try the big nuggets. I maybe able to increase yeild by 10 to 20 percent with more side light and some reflective walls, lower buds could have been fatter but hey first hydro grow. First 2 orange bud seeds came up, stem turn dark kind of purple and fell over and died, first time ever for me don't know. 6 more coming up now doing better, maybe to much water on the first ones.

[LOC NAR1958]

Just a quick update to end the saga. Not as much as I expected, I have 111 grams of pure fat bud manicured to the max. Sticky and cured. Burns real good in a joint a real trippy high for 3 to 4 hours. All in all for first hydro and first kind bud I have grown. I think it's great. wish I could hit a bong , but my lungs can't take it. This is 3 hit crippler. I know and will change some things for better yeild on next one. As one life ends another begins. My first 2 orange bud beans died real quick on me, they came up collasped the stem and died. The same way I germinated hundreds of them. I started 6 more and they just went into the system and are hanging in there about a week old.
Anyways thanks to all the peeps that helped me. It can only get better. I will start another tread when they are worth looking at or I have a problem. LOL

[Garden Knowm]

wow!!!!!!!!!!! nice job and nice thread.. I am glad I got to see you cut those roots.. very interesting and informative!!!!!

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks Garden Knowm, Cutting the roots really didn't set it back at all, the stem got a little thicker. my side lights did help on 1 side but the least productive was on the other side by the light. the 2 in front without any reflective walls did poor while the 2 in back with the white wall did real good. lots of lower buds. I have raised it up off the floor to be able to get to it easier and cool the res tank. Thinking about more and different side lighting. Also going to try GH 3 part nutes this time. What the best bloom nute to go with those any one ? will T5's help much for flower side lights ? Still learning. Thanks again

[Zandor]

Next time try bud blood from advanced nutrients you only use it the first week of flowering then switch to Advanced Big bud to finish along with GH 3 part. Don't forget the calmag plus, H²o² and B1 as well and I think you will see an improvement in your yield. I see you have figured out quality light is a main requirement for quality buds.

You did a great job

[LOC NAR1958]

What kind of side lighting is best ? I have about 5' x 5' of space. I lifted it off the floor so I can surround it and still get ventilation up around the bottom to keep it cool. I have the 400 mh conversion bulb till flowering. I'm not sure florescent or mh ? I can't carry to much more electric load. My plants are in about a 3' x 3' but I can go alittle more than 5x5.

[Zandor]

HPS just hang the bulbs lower if you have AC that is. If not try some of the CFL the 125w versions from the hydro store.

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks..

[donnie189]

Can anyone tell me how I can post my pictures on here?





First I'd like to say thanks to alot of you here . I have been reading for months and on my first hydro grow. The first 2 pic are of the mother in a tron I have had for every without success. Great for keepping mother alive and well but that's it. the 3'rd pic are 6 clones from mom. I just got an 400MH conversion bulb from discount, Does much better for veg. I almost burned them with HPS. They are about 2 weeks into veg another week and 12/12. It's a drip system and I use distilled water.I make my own. nutes are doing good and I keep and eye on the PH, they seem to like 6.2. My cusin gave me the seed about two and ahalf years ago northern lights from Canada fem seed. One out of two geminated. I have a tendencies to want to trim leaves to promt branch growth. Old tron learning. So what do you think?

[turtle420]

Oh my fucking god....

I have laughed so hard looking at your little hydro village... Hmmm... Welcome to Hydro Town LOL !!!!

Oh god... please keep it up... It's just too funny to let go! LOL

[LOC NAR1958]

Thanks, man I'm old and twisted, well not too old yet. I have a twelve year old and I'm 47 and have access to all the new toys. I got a new grow going and as soon as I see white hairs I will start taking pic's. My brother wants to see a bunch with the Nascar driver who got busted twice on a piss test. LOL. I just hit the tip of the iceburg.

[turtle420]

So... what's the call on the plant with the root-experiment?

The one that you cut a little off the roots? Better? What's up?

Thanks,
-turtle420 :cool:

[LOC NAR1958]

I wouldn't say better the stem did get a little thicker but probably set it back a week from the others. Overall if you had to clean out your tank it could be done. The root grew back quite fast and I cut alot of roots off it.