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Button Basher
07-10-2005, 07:12 PM
I've noticed a subtle increase in both the frequency and paranoia-factor of pisshead's posts. At first I found the articles enlightening but now they simply conjure up an image of some paranoid schizophrenic sitting at his computer shaking and jumping at the slightest sound. :confused:

Are other political forums on non-cannabis sites like this (ie. the same kinda stories from the same sources)? The increasing extremities of the left-wing propoganda (come on, what else is it?) have got me thinking: Is there REALLY this much deception in modern politics (ie. deliberate attacks set up by politicians for financial gain) or are we just a group of paranoid potheads believing everything we read on Infowars, etc so we can feel the superior intellect amongst those that believe otherwise?

I'm calling out the liberal posts simply because Republicans need to rely on posting a positive story about Bush once every blue moon for kudos. They don't seem to scrounge for shit like the left do. Know what I mean?

Cheers.

pisshead
07-10-2005, 07:18 PM
i'm not a liberal. but if you absolutely need a label reinforced by the mainstream media...i'm what you would consider conservative maybe...but not george w. bush giant government record budget open borders anti-constitution and American sovereignty socialist conservative...

there is no left and right, but there is tyranny and freedom.

Button Basher
07-10-2005, 07:20 PM
Whatever. What am I supposed to say besides Liberal? "The guys that don't like Bush but then arn't really into the other stuff either but then again..."

Any thoughts on the actual topic?

pisshead
07-10-2005, 07:23 PM
the topic was based around the fact that "conspiracy theorist" = "liberal"...liberal this...left wing that...

i'm not a liberal. just because i don't like george bush doesn't make me a liberal. you're like the person that thinks i'm conservative because i don't like bill clinton either...

there is no left and right.

if by the same sources you mean library of congress, congressional websites, government websites, newspapers from around the country and world, newswires like ap, reuters and haraatz, executive orders, legislation, interviews with congressman and whistleblowers...it goes on and on and on the sources i've cited...anyone can search and see that.

that's more than i get from you.

pisshead
07-10-2005, 07:32 PM
let's take a look...i posted this:
Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.

Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.

then there audio from the radio interview. you are obviously calling him a liar?


you post and say bullshit. even though it's being covered mainstream now that these kinds of drills took place as early as months ago. is that a conspiracy theory too? it's not a conspiracy theory that drills of planes hitting buildings in NYC were taking place exactly as planes happened to be hitting buildings in NYC and then people had to suffer as each administration official declared that no one had any idea somethign like that could happen. within a short period of time it was...did bin laden do it? hours later...we think bin laden did it...the next day, yep, bin laden did it. bin laden has impeccable timing. what are the odds?

we need to create nationwide tattletale squads and militarize the police to keep us safe...and while we're at it, let's psychologically test everyone in the country...including children. the government loves us.

shit, how can i argue with you though, you said it was bullshit. the 19 hijacker theory explains very little, and i'd call it a bit paranoid, but that's just me.

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 07:40 PM
I've noticed a subtle increase in both the frequency and paranoia-factor of pisshead's posts. At first I found the articles enlightening but now they simply conjure up an image of some paranoid schizophrenic sitting at his computer shaking and jumping at the slightest sound. :confused:

Are other political forums on non-cannabis sites like this (ie. the same kinda stories from the same sources)? The increasing extremities of the left-wing propoganda (come on, what else is it?) have got me thinking: Is there REALLY this much deception in modern politics (ie. deliberate attacks set up by politicians for financial gain) or are we just a group of paranoid potheads believing everything we read on Infowars, etc so we can feel the superior intellect amongst those that believe otherwise?

I'm calling out the liberal posts simply because Republicans need to rely on posting a positive story about Bush once every blue moon for kudos. They don't seem to scrounge for shit like the left do. Know what I mean?

Cheers.

I think i have an idea. I know it sounds more like the paranoid thing but i dont think so. Pisshead isnt a conspiracy theorist. He'd be more a sensationalist if anything. I say that because lets just stop this infowars.com bullshit.
infowars.com or prisonplanet.tv or whatever alex jones puts his credibility behind isnt some server randomly spitting out ideas. ive clicked on many a link that didnt go into alex commentary but rather was just the via link used to move from one website to a news source...and no im not talking about a greg palast blog.

so let's stop with the bullshit saying that infowars is a conspiracy theorist haven. i dont see too many theories that use credible de-classified documents or interviews with actual top-level members of government. and if the government is so innocent i guess that's why they always refuse to be direct with any pertinent questions that fuel conspiracy theories. so if we want answers and dont want bullshit then it's the government that should provide at least accuracies.

And good luck with that. It's really something when we all set up the stake to impeach a guy getting a blowjob (yeh right...your president and some chick wants to blow you in the office while you discuss military tactics with your top general...you think IM going to give a fuck and not do it? It's every guy's dream come true!!) but the biggest failure in american security ever and noone gets fired. get it...NOONE WAS FIRED. Noone from the cia fbi fema norad the bush admin. NOBODY. and you KNOW that's bullshit.


Well enough of logic for now... it hurts too much to think for myself...

pisshead
07-10-2005, 07:43 PM
it's one website of dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens that i try to check out as often as i can. i have other things to do, but i like knowing what's happening to the world and the country.

right now the republic is in danger, but people care to know more about football and gardening or their job or jonn kerry versus his skull and bones cousin george w. bush...society is in a freefall right now, humanity is being flushed down the drain.

we're just one in another long line of tyranny and despotism with ruling elites consolidating wealth and control. but it can never happen here...in a world where 'rothschild' or 'russell' is rarely uttered in the mainstream.

Button Basher
07-10-2005, 07:49 PM
Ooh err, touchy guy. Sorry for not attacking you personally (I assume that's what you were hoping for seeing as you replied as if I had). :p

I said 'Conspiracy theorist = paranoid pothead'. I have to use the terms 'liberal' and 'left' because there's no other quick way of categorising anti-Bush people. I didn't call you a liberal (check), I know what you categorise yourself as already but you post the anti-Bush material of which I was referring to. I don't even know anything about Bill Clinton :confused: , your confusing me there (ooh, this fuels my interest ;) ).

Start again and try not to automatically assume i'm putting you down, it's not that hard.

Put simply, a self proclaimed pothead (ie, you or XTC or anyone else) posts thread after thread of crazy theories on a cannabis website. What are the chances it's going to be true? It's not a rhetorical question. The poster doesn't know for sure themselves (they're just posting the article) but they agree with it anyway.

To me, it does sound like bullshit, at least now it does. Countless whacky theories posted over and over, the shock value degrades after a while.

So let's look at the topic again (keep reading):
Are all political forums on non-cannabis websites like this? (ie. the same stories from the same sources) I read over and over the same unbelievable stuff. In the end, what is it actually doing for anyone?

And don't pass judgment on me because I don't take in everything you say. Your showing the same signs as the Republicans your so desperate to put down. Just answer the fucking question without being a smart-ass.

More then you get from me? What am I, your little messenger?

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 07:50 PM
and let's not forget where "conspiracy theory" comes from...oh my goodness...NOT the government elite by any chance.

Could you imagine:

"Mr. President...I have here a certain Downing Street memo citing that you knew the U.S> would enter a war before congress gave approval..."

Bush: "Wow...that Alex Jones sure knows his shit."


Give me a break. Anytime when the heat gets on some government guy throws "conspiracy theory" into the mix and then presto...all the garbage hollywood's been feeding you for the last 20 years comes into your head and reality escapes. You relate conspiracy theory with your jewish fantasy land bullshit and that's how you relate cold-hard evidence.

Jesus Christ I love American mentality.

Button Basher
07-10-2005, 07:52 PM
and let's not forget where "conspiracy theory" comes from...oh my goodness...NOT the government elite by any chance.

Could you imagine:

"Mr. President...I have here a certain Downing Street memo citing that you knew the U.S> would enter a war before congress gave approval..."

Bush: "Wow...that Alex Jones sure knows his shit."


Give me a break. Anytime when the heat gets on some government guy throws "conspiracy theory" into the mix and then presto...all the garbage hollywood's been feeding you for the last 20 years comes into your head and reality escapes. You relate conspiracy theory with your jewish fantasy land bullshit and that's how you relate cold-hard evidence.

Jesus Christ I love American mentality.

You know what mate? Don't worry about it. You've just obliterated what was left of the interest I had in your views. (shame)

Anyone else?

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 07:54 PM
You know what mate? Don't worry about it. You've just obliterated what was left of the interest I had in your views. (shame)

Anyone else?

Hey what the hell did i do? I wasnt arguing or debating you i was well off your banter with pisshead and im posting my own shit. What is it about my new post you dont like though? I'm willing to discuss it. I re-read it and i dont see anything that makes it seem like im attacking (baiting) you. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Button Basher
07-10-2005, 08:03 PM
Urkle.... Oops! Sorry Nick, I totally thought you were pisshead just then :p . Lol, sorry man. Your alright!

Yeah, and sorry to pisshead too, got annoyed at your ASSUMPTIONS :mad:. I don't mean any harm, i'm just asking a simple question :) . Try not to get annoyed about it, I just want your views.

pisshead
07-10-2005, 08:03 PM
Ooh err, touchy guy. Sorry for not attacking you personally (I assume that's what you were hoping for seeing as you replied as if I had). :p

I said 'Conspiracy theorist = paranoid pothead'. I have to use the terms 'liberal' and 'left' because there's no other quick way of categorising anti-Bush people. I didn't call you a liberal (check), I know what you categorise yourself as already but you post the anti-Bush material of which I was referring to. I don't even know anything about Bill Clinton :confused: , your confusing me there (ooh, this fuels my interest ;) ).

Start again and try not to automatically assume i'm putting you down, it's not that hard.

Put simply, a self proclaimed pothead (ie, you or XTC or anyone else) posts thread after thread of crazy theories on a cannabis website. What are the chances it's going to be true? It's not a rhetorical question. The poster doesn't know for sure themselves (they're just posting the article) but they agree with it anyway.

To me, it does sound like bullshit, at least now it does. Countless whacky theories posted over and over, the shock value degrades after a while.

So let's look at the topic again (keep reading):
Are all political forums on non-cannabis websites like this? (ie. the same stories from the same sources) I read over and over the same unbelievable stuff. In the end, what is it actually doing for anyone?

And don't pass judgment on me because I don't take in everything you say. Your showing the same signs as the Republicans your so desperate to put down. Just answer the fucking question without being a smart-ass.

More then you get from me? What am I, your little messenger?i used that to illustrate a real live example, not some hypothetical you want me to give you. i got the impression part of the reason for your post was my post on the london bombings, and how i don't believe it was muslims or "al-qaeda" and that makes me paranoid or somehow being informed by left-wing sites...whatever that means. i think it was british intelligence, with likely foreknowledge and assistance from their military industrial complex.

cui bono? i think it's fairly obvious.

you want me to answer: Are all political forums on non-cannabis websites like this?

why don't you look and find out. of course, the answer is no, they all aren't. they all aren't like this. there are bush loving forums and kerry loving forums and sociliast forums and probably nazi forums. forums for everything you could imagine. if you don't care to look into any of it, fine. but don't expect to answer my post which had audio evidence and admitted examples of drills such as bombs on tubes going off with the word bullshit as if that's any kind of valid refutation.

i'm sorry, but the feeling is mutual. i have no interest in your posts either if all you can say is it's bullshit, even with audio...and mainstream admissions...quite a few soures...

you're calling this guy running a drill involving a thousand people a liar. that's fine.

Button Basher
07-10-2005, 08:05 PM
Hehe, you guys post too fast for me :p . By the time i'd replied to one post there were 3 more. :eek:

I'll wait before posting further thoughts.

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 08:08 PM
aw cmon guys. let the cannabis flow through your lungs....

shit, i dont know if pisshead lives in his parents basement or not but i wish i had a basement. wouldnt have to go outside all the time.

pisshead
07-10-2005, 08:11 PM
i live about 160 miles away from my parents. i graduated college and i have a job and i support myself, if it really matters to people.

i know rich and poor people who share a lot of the same views of how the world works.

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 08:12 PM
pisshead and button basher: just make up and let's move on. i always assumed that button basher related more to our side than bush's. a civil war on our front isnt going to help.

ive got some backwoods and a shitload of weed...who's with me?

Button Basher
07-10-2005, 08:19 PM
why don't you look and find out. of course, the answer is no, they all aren't. they all aren't like this. there are bush loving forums and kerry loving forums and sociliast forums and probably nazi forums and celebrity forums and baseball forums and gardening forums, forums for everything you could imagine. if you don't care to look into any of it, fine. but don't expect to answer my post which had audio evidence and admitted examples of drills such as bombs on tubes going off with the word bullshit as if that's any kind of valid refutation.

i'm sorry, but the feeling is mutual. i have no interest in your posts either if all you can say is it's bullshit, even with audio...and mainstream admissions...quite a few soures...

Chill your bad self. I'm no political activist (if you will) and thought you or XTC would probably know more about Internet political debates then I could research before I made this thread.

Basically I reconsidered my 'bullshit' remark, mainly because I used to take all your stuff in and was wondering why I didn't with your latest :( . I guess you could say i'm bored with it all. In my book, conspiracy theory = theory relating to corruption/lies in the media/politics (that's my definition). Sorry if you took it as an insult, you gotta remember we're of two different worlds.

Think of it like i'm asking you to elaborate on what you do here. I don't mind if your not interested in my posts (I myself only take note of something like 20% of the actual users on here), but then again i'm not on a mass political crusade :D .

Anyway, you answered my question already. I guess, this being a drug website I can expect views from all sides. You could say i'm sceptical on the subject. How do we tell the lies from the truth when there appear to be so many from both sides of the argument :( ?

Chill yourself pisshead, i'm very much on your side :p . All I do is read the articles you post, they're just getting a little crazy for me :o . Hope you'll excuse my snapping at you earlier if I excuse yours.

Cheers.

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 08:36 PM
Chill your bad self. I'm no political activist (if you will) and thought you or XTC would probably know more about Internet political debates then I could research before I made this thread.

Basically I reconsidered my 'bullshit' remark, mainly because I used to take all your stuff in and was wondering why I didn't with your latest :( . I guess you could say i'm bored with it all. In my book, conspiracy theory = theory relating to corruption/lies in the media/politics (that's my definition). Sorry if you took it as an insult, you gotta remember we're of two different worlds.

Think of it like i'm asking you to elaborate on what you do here. I don't mind if your not interested in my posts (I myself only take note of something like 20% of the actual users on here), but then again i'm not on a mass political crusade :D .

Anyway, you answered my question already. I guess, this being a drug website I can expect views from all sides. You could say i'm sceptical on the subject. How do we tell the lies from the truth when there appear to be so many from both sides of the argument :( ?

Chill yourself pisshead, i'm very much on your side :p . All I do is read the articles you post, they're just getting a little crazy for me :o . Hope you'll excuse my snapping at you earlier if I excuse yours.

Cheers.

Personally I dont see how pisshead's posts are getting crazier it reads the same to me...(insert joke here)

Bottom line though...he does post really credible links so if anyones getting crazier its whoever supplies the info.

Now what about my backwoods and shitload of weed...nobody wants to get high?

Psycho4Bud
07-10-2005, 08:40 PM
it's one website of dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens that i try to check out as often as i can. i have other things to do, but i like knowing what's happening to the world and the country.

You should try posting from one of the other dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens...WHEW....of sites for a change. Whenever you post...it comes right from pissplanet.com.

P.S. Next time, try typing over 60 sites instead.....could have got carpaltunnel! :D

pisshead
07-10-2005, 08:41 PM
i'll stop posting these things when the powers that be cease their activities.

Button Basher
07-10-2005, 08:44 PM
Personally I dont see how pisshead's posts are getting crazier it reads the same to me...(insert joke here)

Bottom line though...he does post really credible links so if anyones getting crazier its whoever supplies the info.

True. I guess the worlds just a fucked up place. Shame we're all just telling eachother about it and not actually doing anything. I accept i'm lazy like that :p !


Now what about my backwoods and shitload of weed...nobody wants to get high?

I'll take you up on your offer :cool: . Cheers!

Psycho4Bud
07-10-2005, 08:44 PM
Kinda like committing Jihad on innocent people? :confused: Do you e-mail this stuff to your senetor and congressman on a daily basis?

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 08:52 PM
You should try posting from one of the other dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens...WHEW....of sites for a change. Whenever you post...it comes right from pissplanet.com.

P.S. Next time, try typing over 60 sites instead.....could have got carpaltunnel! :D

you have a good point with the one-reference angle. however, even though its an abviously anti-present government site it posts the articles from a few of the dozens of sites you mentioned every day.

i've viewed the site many times before. its easier envisioning it to be more credible if you take alex out of the equation. he's a great journalist but he's easy to attack because he doesnt dress in a business suit all the time and doesnt get to talk on mainstream media without some wise-ass making a joke or calling him a conspiracy nut.

nicholasstanko
07-10-2005, 08:58 PM
Kinda like committing Jihad on innocent people? :confused: Do you e-mail this stuff to your senetor and congressman on a daily basis?

On the other side of the world im sure there are arabs who talk about the chritian "crusade" that has been waged.

Psycho4Bud
07-10-2005, 09:05 PM
you have a good point with the one-reference angle. however, even though its an abviously anti-present government site it posts the articles from a few of the dozens of sites you mentioned every day.

i've viewed the site many times before. its easier envisioning it to be more credible if you take alex out of the equation. he's a great journalist but he's easy to attack because he doesnt dress in a business suit all the time and doesnt get to talk on mainstream media without some wise-ass making a joke or calling him a conspiracy nut.

I find Alex Jones easy to attack for the fact at the end of every article on his site you'll find his 4 books for sale and a link to join Pissplanet.com for $54 per year or $10 per month....YOU SAVE THE EQUIVELANT OF 3 MONTHS!!!
He's just as corporate as the ones he writes about!

pisshead
07-10-2005, 09:12 PM
you have a good point with the one-reference angle. however, even though its an abviously anti-present government site it posts the articles from a few of the dozens of sites you mentioned every day.

i've viewed the site many times before. its easier envisioning it to be more credible if you take alex out of the equation. he's a great journalist but he's easy to attack because he doesnt dress in a business suit all the time and doesnt get to talk on mainstream media without some wise-ass making a joke or calling him a conspiracy nut.i've made thousands of posts between here and the politics boards at marihemp...all anyone has to do is search for my name and i'll find stuff from everywhere.

this has nothing to do with alex jones. we were talking about the london bombs at some point or we could be talking about anything...then someone brings up alex jones.

i know you know that though. i'm sorry if i don't believe the official theory with so much evidence of prior knowledge and inolvement from governments, whtether the US or GB's...the very people taking rights away to keep us safe from the muslims who supposedly hate the freedom we need to get rid of.

Edgar
07-11-2005, 07:08 PM
What I'm wondering is what these drills were for if they were part of a conspiracy? Is it just that they were a distraction so the terrorists could slip in unnoticed? Or perhaps it was a two pronged approach serving both as fodder for the conspiracy theorists (Intentionally orchestrated by some on the right to keep the Alex Jones's of the world busy, and to discredit them as crazy conspiracy theorists for trying to use it as some sort of evidence of conspiracy. (After all, if its Alex Jones and the like crying conspiracy, who's gonna believe it?)) while at the same time serving as a distraction allowing the terrorists (whoever they are..) to slip by unnoticed. (This is all asuming that this was part of a right wing plot, which im not convinced of, but i'll still keep an open mind because stunts like this have been pulled all throughout history for political gain, and history certainly repeats itself.)

One thing i can't accept is that these drills were just a coincidence both times. (9/11 and 7/7) Also, I can't accept that the terrorists somehow knew these drills were happening without being tipped off by someone. But who? Could they really have such excellent intelligence that they knew when (and where in the case of the 7/7 attacks) both drills were goin' down? It seems to me that they had to have been tipped off. This definitely should be investigated, but so far I've heard very little about it...

Also, whats the deal with that "Peter power" guy? Anyone know his background? I know he works for Visor Consultants, but does anyone know how credible he is? Is that BBC interview the only interview he's given since this incident? I'd like to know what company contracted visor consultants to conduct these drills, because someone needs to investigate that company and i sincerely hope you brits can trust your government to do so.


I gotta get stoned and ponder this some more, I'll take you up on that offer Nick. :)

pisshead
07-11-2005, 07:27 PM
there were drills being run on 9/11, this london bombing, the first WTC bombing, the oklahoma city bombing...always when a big event is going down. and it's always a drill of exactly what's happening at the exact same time in the exact same place.

they are fronts for the government. the government is the terrorist. they perpetrate the big terror events. this is world history propaganda 101. rally the people against a fake enemy to get them behind another force, that's just as bad and controlling the opposition. it's wwf wrestling, false choices, the same group controls both teams.

the same systems of control are going in worldwide. it's a push for a world dictatorship. global terrorism is being used to force every country of the world to conform to a more and more consolidated system controlled by those who have used socialism to consolidate our wealth...next is extreme fascism as the programs are phased out.

the drills are for those good folks in government to be fooled into helping cover up the crimes, as well as a front for the feds to carry out attacks...they can claim they were just running a drill at that time...they were confused...blah blah blah...so when someone slips up...nothing to see here folks, just a drill, we didn't do anything...here's a picture of bin laden or some guy with a beard in a turbin...he did it!

so now we're going to take all of your rights away, we don't want to, but we love you so much.

that guy you mentioned was a Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch. he was running a huge team of people doing the exact same thing that was happening at the exact same time...even though i've already heard some brit officials get up and say we had no idea this could happen...months ago i posted that police chief in britain saying watch out for subway attacks, they will happen. but we'll be there to protect you.

Psycho4Bud
07-11-2005, 07:39 PM
there were drills being run on 9/11, this london bombing, the first WTC bombing, the oklahoma city bombing...always when a big event is going down. and it's always a drill of exactly what's happening at the exact same time in the exact same place.

SERIOUS! You should really go see someone for help! If you really believe that the governments are knocking off men, women, children in their own countries in order to gain power..THEY ALREADY HAVE. You're like on the brink! :eek:

potpimp
07-11-2005, 07:39 PM
i'm not a liberal. .


No kidding, you want to enslave women, you hate gays, mexicans, enviromentalists, gun control advocates and anyone else alex jones tells to you to hate. The are the most right wing person on here.

pisshead
07-11-2005, 07:40 PM
you don't realize how ridiculous and untrue that is. you've added nothing to the discussion.

do you honestly believe that some tinpot terrorists really threaten the global power structures that have been in place for hundreds of years...give me a break.

those in power will stop when they have a world dictatorship. i know though, you think giving up rights and sovereignty to global government is the way to go. good luck.

i don't "hate" any of those groups you mentioned.

potpimp
07-11-2005, 07:43 PM
i got the impression part of the reason for your post was my post on the london bombings, and how i don't believe it was muslims or "al-qaeda" and that makes me paranoid or somehow being informed by left-wing sites...whatever that means. i think it was british intelligence, with likely foreknowledge and assistance from their military industrial complex.

.


Anyone who thinks that is an idiot. You were told what to think by alex jones. You yourself have no opinion

pisshead
07-11-2005, 07:45 PM
i'd say those who are so quick to question alex jones, but believe hook line and sinker stories about evil freedom hating muslims are a bigger threat, fed to them buy fox and cnn and every other fake media that latches onto some fake left/right debate.

george bush should be worshipped by fake liberals. he's funding all the things they love so much, although you don't hear about it...you hear about the stuff that angers the left with red herring issues. just like the left media does with the right.

you're both fighting for bad causes. how more plain can it be? some left winger believes all the lies about the right...the same with the right...get a clue.

believe what you want. i think anyone who thinks like you is an idiot, and i know plenty of people who would agree. so what? you calling me an idiot only shows your ignorance. you're calling this british guy a liar regarding the drills that did take place.

all i'm saying is cui bono? that's a big fucking coincidence.

potpimp
07-11-2005, 07:57 PM
"there were drills being run on 9/11, this london bombing, the first WTC bombing, the oklahoma city bombing...always when a big event is going down. and it's always a drill of exactly what's happening at the exact same time in the exact same place."


Because they were targets before they were hit. Right now there are exercises in the NYC subway tunnels. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that is where the MUSLIMS (not the government) is going to attack. I can tell you right now, when the muslims attack toronto, where i live they will hit union station and yonge/bloor. Everyone knows it, thats why thats where the drills happen. A year from now when the muslims attack, that is where it will be, it has nothing to do with the government.




"they are fronts for the government. the government is the terrorist."




Yes the government who cant do anything right, all of a sudden they pull off 1000 man conspiracies with no evidence and no witnesses. How come they fuck up everything else and do this with deadly precision?




"they perpetrate the big terror events. this is world history propaganda 101. rally the people against a fake enemy to get them behind another force, that's just as bad and controlling the opposition. it's wwf wrestling, false choices, the same group controls both teams."




The muslims attacked it wasnt anyone else. You spit on the graves of their victims with your lies


"the same systems of control are going in worldwide. it's a push for a world dictatorship."


Bullshit


"global terrorism is being used to force every country of the world to conform to a more and more consolidated system controlled by those who have used socialism to consolidate our wealth...next is extreme fascism as the programs are phased out."



You are AJs bitch, he tells you what to think, you suck his dick. Quit spreading your anti socialist hate speech. Quit being a shill for big business. You are too stupid see who owns you.




"the drills are for those good folks in government to be fooled into helping cover up the crimes, as well as a front for the feds to carry out attacks.."



Feds dont carry out attacks.


."they can claim they were just running a drill at that time...they were confused...blah blah blah...so when someone slips up...nothing to see here folks, just a drill, we didn't do anything...here's a picture of bin laden or some guy with a beard in a turbin...he did it!"



Muslim apologist


"so now we're going to take all of your rights away, we don't want to, but we love you so much."




Yes thousands have died so the gov can bring in a patriot act. Anyone who believes that is a moron.




"that guy you mentioned was a Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch. he was running a huge team of people doing the exact same thing that was happening at the exact same time...even though i've already heard some brit officials get up and say we had no idea this could happen...months ago i posted that police chief in britain saying watch out for subway attacks, they will happen. but we'll be there to protect you."



It didnt take a crystal ball to see this happening everyone knew it was going to happen.

pisshead
07-11-2005, 08:03 PM
that's fine. i happen to disagree and think all of what you said was bullshit as well.

pisshead
07-11-2005, 08:04 PM
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accidental double post.

Psycho4Bud
07-11-2005, 08:07 PM
you don't realize how ridiculous and untrue that is. you've added nothing to the discussion.

do you honestly believe that some tinpot terrorists really threaten the global power structures that have been in place for hundreds of years...give me a break.

those in power will stop when they have a world dictatorship. i know though, you think giving up rights and sovereignty to global government is the way to go. good luck.

i don't "hate" any of those groups you mentioned.

Your the kind of dude you see on the 6:00 news taking a shot at the President! Hell, then we can call you a tin pot terrorist!! :D

potpimp
07-11-2005, 08:08 PM
i'd say those who are so quick to question alex jones, but believe hook line and sinker stories about evil freedom hating muslims are a bigger threat, fed to them buy fox and cnn and every other fake media that latches onto some fake left/right debate.



I am american, so bring up your garbage about freedom hating muslims. They hate you because you support israel. Period.





"george bush should be worshipped by fake liberals. he's funding all the things they love so much, although you don't hear about it...you hear about the stuff that angers the left with red herring issues. just like the left media does with the right.":



Ahh bush wont hate mexicans like you. Bush wont take way womens rights, so he is a secret socialist. You are beyond stupid, you are a complete moron.




"you're both fighting for bad causes. how more plain can it be? some left winger believes all the lies about the right...the same with the right...get a clue."



Anyone who doesnt believe there is no left or right like pisstick is wrong. The masons run it all, get your tinfoil hat now.




"those in power will stop when they have a world dictatorship. i know though, you think giving up rights and sovereignty to global government is the way to go. good luck"



Alex jones is an american isolationist, so you have to be too. He told you the one world government is coming to take away your gun, so it has to be true. Anything you say about the UN is just typical american right wing garbage, like you





" i think anyone who thinks like you is an idiot, and i know plenty of people who would agree. so what? you calling me an idiot only shows your ignorance. you're calling this british guy a liar regarding the drills that did take place."



Anyone who disgrees is ignorant. You are one of the stupidest people who has ever been on this board, including torog. Listen moron, the drills took place because the TUBE WAS A TARGET. Man you are stupid

pisshead
07-11-2005, 08:08 PM
the president is a puppet. i dislike george w. bush as much as i dislike clinton.

people on the fake left call me a republican when i bash clinton...and those on the right call me liberal when i bash george w. bush. neither side realizes it's a fixed event...at the top, there is no divide between left and right. divide and conquer.

george w. bush happens to be the current president. i would love to talk about the evil doings of bill clinton. start a thread. let's do some digging.

Psycho4Bud
07-11-2005, 08:09 PM
the president is a puppet. i dislike george w. bush as much as i dislike clinton.

And whats the difference of being a puppet for the state or a puppet for Alex Jones? :confused:

pisshead
07-11-2005, 08:11 PM
this has nothing to do with alex jones. talk to me when you have a real argument. this is worthless.

potpimp
07-11-2005, 08:11 PM
that's fine. i happen to disagree and think all of what you said was bullshit as well.



I dont care if you disagree, you have been coming here for years and telling everyone who thinks differently the we are all sheep and pawns and bullshit like that. Fuck you bitch, i think it was muslims, and i promise you i know more about world events than you. Ever been on london underground pisshead? Have you ever been anywhere? Didnt think so. Anyone who has been to london could have picked those same spots as the most likely target. Just because you know any better doesnt mean that british government doesnt.

potpimp
07-11-2005, 08:12 PM
this has nothing to do with alex jones. talk to me when you have a real argument. this is worthless.


Sure it does, he tells you what to think and you follow along

pisshead
07-11-2005, 08:13 PM
i've been to the moon, mars and andromeda. i'm planning a trip to neptune.

i still think you're wrong and your posts are bullshit, as much as you try to personally insult me to prove otherwise. you're the only angry person i see here.

what you're saying is no one can know anything unless they were personally there to witness something. so i wonder why you believe the freedom hating muslim conspiracy theories.

this blame alex thing is really pathetic. there's hundreds and hundreds of individuals out there who actually care what's happening to their country, federally and locally. grow up. as if this alex jones is the only one. expand your horizons a bit. the government doesn't always tell the truth to you, regardless of what anyone else says. that's history.

alex jones isn't the government, he doesn't control the mechanisms that you depend on and run your life. he's not worth hundreds of trillions of dollars. do you know who is?

Psycho4Bud
07-11-2005, 09:36 PM
i've been to the moon, mars and andromeda. i'm planning a trip to neptune.

i still think you're wrong and your posts are bullshit, as much as you try to personally insult me to prove otherwise. you're the only angry person i see here.

what you're saying is no one can know anything unless they were personally there to witness something. so i wonder why you believe the freedom hating muslim conspiracy theories.

this blame alex thing is really pathetic. there's hundreds and hundreds of individuals out there who actually care what's happening to their country, federally and locally. grow up. as if this alex jones is the only one. expand your horizons a bit. the government doesn't always tell the truth to you, regardless of what anyone else says. that's history.

alex jones isn't the government, he doesn't control the mechanisms that you depend on and run your life. he's not worth hundreds of trillions of dollars. do you know who is?

Blame Alex Jones? For what, being a money grubbing sensationalist? Hell yes! The name of this thread says it all. Every one of your posts can be found in pissplanet. No research, individual thought pattern; all Alex, all the time! Gloom and doom on how the New World Order blew up the WTC, London tube system, Pentagon, and now Oklahoma City?
"Mechanisms that you depend on and run your life"? Dude! If you want to play in the game you have to know how to work the rules, make changes.....standing in front of a building where innocent people have died spewing crap isn't the way to make those changes. Only an egotist would have the balls to do that shit! You know, like Alex did.
You really have to get a grip on the internal demons that are troubling you. Let this type of shit build up on a daily basis and you'll be posting from an insain asylum. Cut back on the sativa and try some nice indica....whole new perspective! :D

pisshead
07-11-2005, 09:38 PM
thanks, but i don't need your advice. i feel dumber for just having read it.

Psycho4Bud
07-11-2005, 09:40 PM
Just trying to help, you have a happy day! :D

BlueCat
07-11-2005, 10:02 PM
the president is a puppet. i dislike george w. bush as much as i dislike clinton.

people on the fake left call me a republican when i bash clinton...and those on the right call me liberal when i bash george w. bush. neither side realizes it's a fixed event...at the top, there is no divide between left and right. divide and conquer.

george w. bush happens to be the current president. i would love to talk about the evil doings of bill clinton. start a thread. let's do some digging.


Amen! They are both crooks!

BlueCat
07-11-2005, 10:07 PM
At least PH is looking at all the possibilities and not buying what one party has to say hook line and sinker.

There is a grain of truth in all conspiracy theories thats how they get started.

pisshead
07-11-2005, 10:10 PM
look at all the conspiracies in history that weren't conspiracies at the time, and those who saw them were conspiracy theorists. there's too many to even mention.

polls show that the vast majority of Americans believe there was a government conspiracy to kill kennedy, upwards of 92% of people. at the time you were a nut to insist that.

people just don't believe the magic bullet theory anymore of some nutjob patsy killing this guy, when there were greater motives in higer levels of government.

i've posted interviews with former HIGH LEVEL BUSH administration members who have come out saying they think the feds were involved in 9/11...he must be brainwashed by alex jones though...as are all the other people, including OVER 400 VICTIM'S FAMILIES SUING THE FEDS FOR INVOLVEMENT AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE UNDER THE RICO ACT.

lord bush taking away the promises of money to fund healthcare for workers suffering from respiratory and other conditions. i'll give ya $90 million, sure...oh wait, no, fuck you.

it all gets ignored and called bullshit. i still don't believe the freedom hating muslim theory, even if i'm wrong.

BlueCat
07-11-2005, 10:41 PM
i still don't believe the freedom hating muslim theory...

Me either....

Psycho4Bud
07-11-2005, 11:06 PM
Check it out once;
Nixon: Press went wild over watergate!
Reagon: Press tells how he plans around horoscope
Clinton:Press field day...BLOWJOB
Bush: Vietnam record, lean towards anti-abortion----just saw on TV that CBS, NBC, ABC had a 58%-78% negative press release on him last week!

Now, keep our press mentallity in mind;If there was one bit of truth to ANY of these conspiracy theories, wouldn't the press be jumping on this like ravens to a slaughter? They always have in the past! Just think of it from the presses angle: We broke the story that impeached a President and very well saved the Democracy! Number one station, number one ratings!!!

Thats why shock jocks like Howard Stern, Rush Limbeau, Alex Jones are for amusement purposes only. Not to be believed until their storys are verified completely. What happened to Dan Rather again? CREDIBILITY is the thing that shock jocks and dumb reporters don't have!

If you really want to believe that there are no "tin pot terrorists" go ahead. If you enjoy living in a world of paranoia, go ahead. Like my old man always said, "No skin off my ass".

Have a wonderful day! :D

amsterdam
07-12-2005, 01:44 PM
i have a conspiracy i believe in.

i believe the US and China are both heavily involved in the study of gravity manipulation.

i also believe that this technology did not come from this planet.

amsterdam
07-12-2005, 02:02 PM
i also believe our govt. intimidates and threatens former employes of groom lake and nasa as to not speak of our technology that is light years ahead of peoples wildest imagination.

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 03:05 PM
see amsterdam...logic and common sense aint that bad

amsterdam
07-12-2005, 03:07 PM
i think its great.

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 03:17 PM
i think its great.

see that gravity manipulation thing is a conspiracy theory. until you get some actual declassified documents and testiomnies from high levels of government...then it becomes a growing concern.


its the same thing happening now...what pisshead posts arent conspiracy theories...just facts that beg an answer. when the bush admin. gleefully calls what is being said a con. theory...then how does it become a valid criticism if they REFUSE to answer the questions asked that fuel the theories?

amsterdam
07-12-2005, 03:19 PM
bush administration?

you mean every american president since 1953.

humans are evil and stupid and dont need to know everything.

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 03:44 PM
bush administration?

you mean every american president since 1953.

humans are evil and stupid and dont need to know everything.

true...but to ensure that whoevers supposed to be doing their job actually does it....we should at least know OF everything.

amsterdam
07-12-2005, 03:47 PM
i think the people do know,how many sightings do we have?1 million?20 million?

if we can shoot something and hit an astroid 150 million miles away?WOW.

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 04:20 PM
it is amazing. but just a matter of calculation. once you find an asteroid then youd only have to calculate at which angle to launch the probe. the vaccuum in space would cause it to collide since its just a straight path.

if the probe had hit an asteroid five miles away it wouldve been labeled a success.

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 04:21 PM
now if we could get laser beams....thatd be cool. then i could get all exo squad or halo on some alien asses.

amsterdam
07-12-2005, 04:28 PM
the former dead ceo of boeing said before he died that if we have seen it on star trek or star wars it has already been done.when asked to expand on that he declined.

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 05:08 PM
the former dead ceo of boeing said before he died that if we have seen it on star trek or star wars it has already been done.when asked to expand on that he declined.

i smell conspiracy.

pisshead
07-12-2005, 05:20 PM
yeah, that's bullshit.

Psycho4Bud
07-12-2005, 05:37 PM
Somebody sounds a lil' bit Pissy! Imagine that. :D

pisshead
07-12-2005, 05:48 PM
i'm just trying to bring myself down to your level.

Psycho4Bud
07-12-2005, 06:16 PM
i'm just trying to bring myself down to your level.

BWWWWAAAAAHHHHHH! Thats a good one! Alex Jones tell ya that one? BWAAAAAAHHHHHH!

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 06:50 PM
BWWWWAAAAAHHHHHH! Thats a good one! Alex Jones tell ya that one? BWAAAAAAHHHHHH!

why do you always mention alex jones? lol. greg palast and others have the same opinions too ya know.

cmon psycho...you can tell us...who touched you down there...was it mommy...daddy...did alex do it...he did...didnt he?!!!


lol.

Psycho4Bud
07-12-2005, 06:55 PM
why do you always mention alex jones? lol. greg palast and others have the same opinions too ya know.

cmon psycho...you can tell us...who touched you down there...was it mommy...daddy...did alex do it...he did...didnt he?!!!


lol.

Actually since you ask, it was your momma....she was damn good too! :D

So what's up Nic, pisspants can't reply on his own?

pisshead
07-12-2005, 06:56 PM
why do you always mention alex jones? lol. greg palast and others have the same opinions too ya know.

cmon psycho...you can tell us...who touched you down there...was it mommy...daddy...did alex do it...he did...didnt he?!!!


lol.
it shows you they have no real argument.

nicholasstanko
07-12-2005, 07:13 PM
Actually since you ask, it was your momma....she was damn good too! :D

So what's up Nic, pisspants can't reply on his own?

lol. who was it i was arguing with that said the best part of me dripped down my mommas thigh during birth? was it nowhereman? lol.


no im sure pisshead can reply. im just holding the fort. i assume we share the same viewpoints on a lot of issues though.

Psycho4Bud
07-12-2005, 07:17 PM
lol. who was it i was arguing with that said the best part of me dripped down my mommas thigh during birth? was it nowhereman? lol.


no im sure pisshead can reply. im just holding the fort. i assume we share the same viewpoints on a lot of issues though.

Why no, that was me! LOL Best of wishes to you and the new wife to be though!!! :D

stoner spirit
07-12-2005, 10:55 PM
Damn... hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I got a good laugh out of that when you posted that remark up the first time, its still funny as hell though. Hahaha.

Button Basher
07-13-2005, 01:49 AM
lol. who was it i was arguing with that said the best part of me dripped down my mommas thigh during birth?

Hehe, I was thinking about that today :D . What the fuck? :p

I should've known this would turn into an argument. Oh well. Dance puppets, dance. :cool: :p

Lean. Over.