DMT...curious about this goodie

[5HT]

so is DMT any fun? I hear it lasts less than an hour, but is very intense--short and intense much like salvia. How does it compare to other drugs, praticularly salvia? I don't mind so much seeing shit and have somewhat an altered mental state, as opposed to the total concious warping of salvia.

any recommendations for use, like how much is a good first dose?

[SumSkater540]

I have never tried DMT but I have been looking for it wanting to try it. I can't seem to find it anywhere and none of my dealers know what it is....any body know where you can get this stuff?

[5HT]

from the experiences I've read about, it seems like it's a cross between the visuals of mescaline and the concious altering of salvia. is that accurate?

[MiddleburgsBum]

I orderd some, sorry sworn to secrecy bout the sight, but its pretty much the most intence trip out there (minus bellladonna, datura, ect) very very fun tho. about 25 mg is a good trip, and a gram only costs 40 bucks, so u get 4 good trips for 40 dollars...pretty much the craziest thing out there....

[MiddleburgsBum]

yes, wow, nice math...a gram DOES equal 100 mg.

[andruejaysin]

Actually, a gram is 1000mgs. 25mgs of 5MEO-DMT isn't visual, exactly, it blast you into an alternate reality, similar in duration and intensity to salvia, but comepletely different. Dose for DMT is somewhat higher, but it's been illegal for years, you would probably need to extract it yourself from a plant source.

[MiddleburgsBum]

ahh, your right my bad

[MiddleburgsBum]

well, the easiest way to extract DMT I've heard of is pinching toad glands...not sure on the exact name of the type of toad. but I do know u can pick it up at most pet stores...

[Dick Justice]

Bufo alvarius, Colorado River Toad, I think.

[SumSkater540]

Well shit if I can buy a toad at a pet store and get DMT from it, thats pretty badass. I saw some news report tho about some kids in california getting arrested for "tripping off toads"..I'm serious here..tho i don't kow how anyone would ever catch you unless you were selling it or something. I mean if they sell them as pets at pet stores thats awsome. If anyone knows what kind of toad it is I'd greatly appriciate it.

[Dick Justice]

Colorado River Toad, Bufo Alvarius, I think.

[Edgar]

Isn't there some toad in australia that trips you, but is so common that they are always getting run over in the roads?

wait wait, i got it, its coming to me.... kane toad? is that it?

[Delta9]

The Indian gave the White Man Tobacco.
So that the White Man could smoke.
The White Man gave the Indian brandy.
So that the Indian could drink.

[andruejaysin]

SWIAJ actually found this site as a result of a dream about DMT extraction.Tihkal states (pg 268) that the root bark of Illionois Bundleflower contain 25% DMT, however extraction attempts were dissappionting, to say the least. In desperation he googled the damn thing, which led him to erowid, which states the the DMT content as .25%, apparently Dr. Shulgins source (and he is clearly quoting someone else) omitted a decimal point. Erowid of course links to this board. The toads contain 5meo, not true DMT.

[MiddleburgsBum]

well never the less, its nice....the only thing is, you can only get about 2.5 grams every 6 months. the toads dont produce this "venom" very rapidly

[Dick Justice]

Yeah Colorado River Toad, Cane Toad, Bufo Alvarius, whatever you wanna call it. I think they said that bufotenin, the other chem in the venom, is also psychoactive, which would mean that a toad trip is different from a straight-up 5meO-DMT trip.

[haha]

So you kill the toad in order to feel good for a couple hours?

If so, that's fucked up.

[Dick Justice]

No you dont have to kill it, you just squeeze the glands behind its head or otherwise make it secrete its venom. You can keep the toad alive. I have heard of people smoking the toad skin, but toads shed their skin so again that's a non-lethal way (if it works).

[MiddleburgsBum]

smokeing toad skin, doubt it, enless the venom is on the skin....which it isn't. thats why lickin toads gets you no where

[andruejaysin]

2.5 grams of 5meo every six months is alot, got me thinking about getting a toad. Funny how bufotenin, which may or may not be phychedelic (tihkal says no, other sources disagree) has been illegal for years, yet 5meo is not. Yea, I know, analog laws.. Licking the toads might work if you took a MAOI, but who really wants to lick a toad?

[Dick Justice]

... but who really wants to lick a toad?

*slowly raises hand*

[harmonicminor]

I once heard a story of a princess that kissed a toad :-).
I have some phalaris grass growing that has dmt in it and not 5meo-dmt. I wouldnt really want to try the 5meo because it has no visuals. I also have some syrian rue to make the phalaris orally active and longer lasting. I have read mixed reports on the phalaris though. I wonder if a butane extraction would work?

[MiddleburgsBum]

damn, wanna sell some grass?

[boywonder]

never tried it but don't think it woulod be fun, more of an experience.

[boywonder]

Isn't there some toad in australia that trips you, but is so common that they are always getting run over in the roads?

wait wait, i got it, its coming to me.... kane toad? is that it?

yeah it is

[thcbongman]

so is DMT any fun? I hear it lasts less than an hour, but is very intense--short and intense much like salvia. How does it compare to other drugs, praticularly salvia? I don't mind so much seeing shit and have somewhat an altered mental state, as opposed to the total concious warping of salvia.

any recommendations for use, like how much is a good first dose?

It depends, unless your doing a extraction process to get pure DMT using a plant source, it's unlikely you'll find it that way.

Just get some Mimosa Hostilis, Syrian Rue and use a simple extraction to make a drinkable brew, mix it with chocolate, and you'll be tripping balls for 5 hours.