we have been lied to again

[ezjim]

once again there is now proof that the feds have lied to us about pot smoking causing cancer follow the link to see the study's results http://www.counterpunch.org/gardner07022005.html

[Atma]

Thx for posting that, It's something i worry about because of my bad lungs (I have a chest infection, I think i had a cold i left too long, But i've had to stop smoking MJ)

Im not a tobacco smoker, Hate the shit..

[mrdevious]

I'm still not sure either way what the odds of it causing cancer are, I just wonder though since Bob Marley did die of lung cancer. however, I dont' know if he smoked tobacco as well.

[ezjim]

I'm still not sure either way what the odds of it causing cancer are, I just wonder though since Bob Marley did die of lung cancer. however, I dont' know if he smoked tobacco as well.
bob marley died of skin cancer not lung cancer... dude that whole lung cancer thing was a rumor started [ prob by the fed's] to scare young white boys away from weed kinda like in the 20's and 30' when they said if your duaghter smokes weed she will sleep with jazz musician's it's sad how we keep allowing bad history to repeat it's self

[onwardthroughthefog]

bob marley died of skin cancer not lung cancer... dude that whole lung cancer thing was a rumor started [ prob by the fed's] to scare young white boys away from weed kinda like in the 20's and 30' when they said if your duaghter smokes weed she will sleep with jazz musician's it's sad how we keep allowing bad history to repeat it's self

Actually, if my memory serves me tonight....Bob broke a toe while playing soccer. It wasn't treated correctly, and eventually became cancerous.

He kept touring and not getting traditional treatments. I saw him in concert in either 1980 or 1981, and he was looking horrible, from the spreading cancer, which had overtaken his body.

He died in 1981, I believe, from that cancer. It wasn't actually skin cancer from what I remember, but it certainly wasn't lung cancer.

That was about the time I was winding down my music contacts and radio contacts, and I remember how sad everyone was. Just like when Stevie Ray Vaughn died.

[onwardthroughthefog]

I was wrong about Marley's cancer.

I did a google search and found that he did indeed die from a malignant melanoma, which grew under his toenail. It was misdiagnosed at first as a broken toe, so it was allowed to grow, and it spread to his brain and other organs. He was advised to have his toe amputated, but his religious faith wouldn't allow it. So he sought alternative treatments.

So you were right about him dying from skin cancer.

I recall having to talk to a dj I worked with, and he was really shaken up when we saw Bob in concert that last time. He was so skinny and sick looking from the cancer. But he kicked ass singing!!!!

[naturalmystic]

His last show was in pittsburg 1981, in which he capped it off with a KILLER "Redemption Song". Ironically, it was argueably his best version of Redemption Song.

[ezjim]

His last show was in pittsburg 1981, in which he capped it off with a KILLER "Redemption Song". Ironically, it was argueably his best version of Redemption Song.
yea i got a fairly good copy of the show if any one would like it

[Nochowderforyou]

cool...:)

[NOTEHOOK]

I want it! Hit me up [email protected]

[Hydrizzle]

this is particularly heartening.....



There was time for only one question, said the moderator, and San Francisco oncologist Donald Abrams, M.D., was already at the microphone: "You don't see any positive correlation, but in at least one category [marijuana-only smokers and lung cancer], it almost looked like there was a negative correlation, i.e., a protective effect. Could you comment on that?"

"Yes," said Tashkin. "The odds ratios are less than one almost consistently, and in one category that relationship was significant, but I think that it would be difficult to extract from these data the conclusion that marijuana is protective against lung cancer. But that is not an unreasonable hypothesis.



go scientists!! :D

[Ousted]

Atma - I want your avatar!

[OR Freebird]

Man, I'd like a copy of the last Marley show too.

Here's my trade list if you want to trade

http://webpages.charter.net/5starpc/freebird.htm

You can e-mail me at [email protected]

[IrieAllie]

I'd love a copy of the pittsburgh show. [email protected]. Thanks!

[HighTillIDie]

[email protected]
i would really appreciate the song man... thanks



and you all should do a google search on THC and leukemia treatments... it is VERY VERY enlightening...

let me brake down what all i researched in lamens terms...

THC when injected or otherwise applied to the cancer ridden areas, KILLED carcinogens and the cancerous tissue... while at the same time leaving the majority of healthy tissues absolutely fine... in treatment of lung cancer thc is proven to have nothing but a positive and recouperative affect... i have read alot of private and appearantly non-biased reports on thc and is medicinal affects... it is very suprising... most of them talk only about cultivated and refined medical thc... but the sites and studies that refer to marijuana also tout its positive affects... i like to read from alot of different sources, because remember, as much as the government and general society is biased, we are too!

[Nullific]

^ They found that out originally in the mid 70s, but our freedom-of-information-loving government asked all colleges to destroy any cannabis-related research documents.
http://www.alternet.org/story/9257/

[Tholiak]

Uh yea....Pot can cause Cancer...Look in your bong..see that thick black stuff?...That stuff is also in your lungs....Enjoy

[Nullific]

Marijuana smoke also acts as an expectorant, it dilates the air ways of the lungs and clears them. Another little detail you're leaving out is that marijuana smoke isn't radioactive like tobacco smoke, and there are no cases in medical literature of lung cancer related to smoking pot. Compare that to the hundreds of thousands of tobacco-related deaths that occur each year in the United States alone.

[NightProwler]

immagine if 50 years from now we discovered the cure to cancer and it turned out to be marijuana all along....

[Breukelen advocaat]

Uh yea....Pot can cause Cancer...Look in your bong..see that thick black stuff?...That stuff is also in your lungs....Enjoy

Some of us should use other ways to deliver it to our systems - such as vaporizers and as an ingredient in food recipes. I am sure that eating it is the safest method, but I've never tried that. I used to know some people that would put a gram of hash oil on donuts - they got completly blasted from it.

[geoffrowley19]

i dont get how it doesnt cause it, i read most of that study and i still think that smoking anything causes cancer, no matter what it is

[Nullific]

Combustion of many things, tobacco, wood, marijuana, coal etc. will produce polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons which are believed to contribute to the development of some cancers. Though marijuana smoke does contain PAHs as well as other chemicals found in tobacco smoke, there has yet to be a reported case of lung cancer attributed solely to smoking marijuana. A significant difference between marijauna and tobacco smoke is that marijuana smoke contains no radioactive agents. Tobacco smoke does, a result of phosphate fertilizers. One such chemical found in tobacco smoke is Polonium 210, the only component in the smoke shown to cause cancer alone in lab tests. Many people fail to point this out when they are comparing smoking tobacco to marijuana.
Consider all the people smoking light/low tar cigarettes, they are at the same risk of developing lung cancer because the filters don't stop you from inhaling polonium 210.

[bobthemagicdragon12]

u also have to consider that our wonderful govt considers the natural defense mechanism of our lungs to smoke, a cancerous lesion, i dont really feel like explaining on it here so google it or somethin

[Ralz]

Okayyy the people on here that dont smoke more than once every 3 days... you with never develop problems from smoking.. the defense mechanism of our lugs allows them to be cleanes of the amounts of chemicals deposited into our lungs momentarily yet smoke parilyzes these mechanisms for approximetaly 24 hours therefore weekend smokers are very very very safe from developing cancers and any other health problems as a result of smoking mariguana

[beachguy in thongs]

If you fucken people looked up melatonin, you'd find that it prevents cancer and heart disease. I've known for a long time that cancer is prevented by smoking weed. Fuck everyone who says I'm wrong, I know I'm right, and I'm drunk.

[MyAntiDrugIsAmy]

while weed doesn't cause lung cancer, i know of someone who got mouth cancer from smoking out of their pipe everyday for about 15 years... but that's and extreme case. bongs filter out a lot of the cancerous properties, and they give better hits anyway.

[MightyFourTwenty]

If you fucken people looked up melatonin, you'd find that it prevents cancer and heart disease. I've known for a long time that cancer is prevented by smoking weed. Fuck everyone who says I'm wrong, I know I'm right, and I'm drunk.


I agree. Now pass me some Tequila. :p