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AandKdaddy
07-03-2005, 07:00 AM
Am haveing a hard time with my plants burning from the nutes with hydro. dindn't have any prob. with soil grow.. What to do? I am so impatient

ballin4Real
07-03-2005, 09:46 AM
personally i like soil better also its easier and less of a hassel you are better off with soil unless you got time and money to waste
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notanovice
07-03-2005, 12:39 PM
personally i like soil better also its easier and less of a hassel you are better off with soil unless you got time and money to waste
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soil is good for the more inexperienced, but as far as cost goes, hydroponic is cheap and effecient and much easier once you get the basics down. nute burn is easy to remedy and also with hydroponics if you over fert, it is easily and quickly detected. unlike soil, which would take some time to show the effects of too much fert. or too much water.
it is a personal prefference, which ever way is most comfortable for a person to grow, is best for that person.
believe me, over the years i have grown and experimented with the plethera of ways to grow, and i have found that, for me, hydro is the way to go, but that`s just one persons personal experiences.

Torog
07-03-2005, 12:49 PM
soil is good for the more inexperienced, but as far as cost goes, hydroponic is cheap and effecient and much easier once you get the basics down. nute burn is easy to remedy and also with hydroponics if you over fert, it is easily and quickly detected. unlike soil, which would take some time to show the effects of too much fert. or too much water.
it is a personal prefference, which ever way is most comfortable for a person to grow, is best for that person.
believe me, over the years i have grown and experimented with the plethera of ways to grow, and i have found that, for me, hydro is the way to go, but that`s just one persons personal experiences.
Howdy nota,

There are a couple things that I worry about in regards to hydro..like,can one just git by with ph test strips,to monitor ph and tds ? What about EC ? I'm thinking that I would need to buy some high-priced equipment in order to properly monitor what's going on..?

Also,I'm thinking that I would have to buy a pricey pump,so that I wouldn't have to carry the resevoir outside or to the bathtub,when the solution needs changing..am I just over-complicating things ?

Have a good one !

jimmy5150guitars
07-03-2005, 01:15 PM
hey guys

torog

keep it simple all you need is a ph tester change nutes every 7-10 days
and you be harvesting in a short period hydro is easy torog

notanovice
07-03-2005, 01:21 PM
hey guys

torog

keep it simple all you need is a ph tester change nutes every 7-10 days
and you be harvesting in a short period hydro is easy torog

howdy jimmy and torog
torog, got any questions about hydroponics, ask me, i will enlighten you with just how quick and easy it is
dont frett, hydro is pretty easy and cheap to use, and not near the mess you get with soil
yields are good and much faster than soil growing, and as long as you keep ph balanced, your results will be great
take care
and just ask and i`ll gladly answer

jimmy5150guitars
07-03-2005, 01:35 PM
hey notta


good to hear from ya hope your are well torog just needs to spend 20 bucks and build a good bubbler and hell be up in no time

Torog
07-03-2005, 01:38 PM
howdy jimmy and torog
torog, got any questions about hydroponics, ask me, i will enlighten you with just how quick and easy it is
dont frett, hydro is pretty easy and cheap to use, and not near the mess you get with soil
yields are good and much faster than soil growing, and as long as you keep ph balanced, your results will be great
take care
and just ask and i`ll gladly answer
Howdy jimmy and nota,

Y'all make me feel better about hydro with your encouraging words..however I wonder if y'all worry about the ec factor..or does it take care of it's self,if you keep proper tds and nute levels ?

Also..I wonder about the differences in relative ec,when comparing chemical ferts against organics designed to work with hydro. (?)

Also,do y'all use a suction pump to evacuate the resevoir ? If so, how much did it set ya back ?

Have a good one...and thanx for your help !:)

Zandor
07-03-2005, 05:01 PM
There is a direct coloration between EC and TDS so most meters today will do the math for you. I watch TDS only because it what I started with. EC is a little more accurate but I find TDS works fine as well. Ph test strips are no good they have an error margin of better then 1% so that is the difference between a perfect Ph and one that is to low and will harm the plant and reduce nutrient uptake. No real difference between organics and non-organic nutrients either you use one or the other. Organics sometime have large pieces of crap in them that will clog lines if you are not careful so thatâ??s why some use inline filters. Organic nutrients stink to high hell too and will gag a maggot.

Depending on how far you need to pump your nutrients is whether you use one of those Aquarium vacuums that attach to the facet and use suction to clean the aquarium and drain the tank or not. I just use an extra pump and if needed pump my inside stuff into a 5-gallon bucket and carry it. RO water is almost a must for growing hydro but if you do then you also need to use CalMag plus to put back some nutrients the RO process removes. The pump cost between 20 â?? 40 bucks depending on how many gallons per hour you need to move. The same pump you use to feed the plants would have no problem filling a 5-gallon bucket to remove the old nutrients too btw.

The taste difference is just a matter of opinion. You still need to flush even if you grow in dirt so why not save the time and grow in hydro and get in one extra harvest a year or more.

You do need more equipment to grow in hydro then in dirt. Itâ??s worth the price to go hydro in time saved and over all yields.

AandKdaddy
07-03-2005, 05:28 PM
Thank you all for the great input I guess i will stay at it for awhile...Wish me luck and i'm sure i will be back asking more questions...This site is great!!!!!