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LilG716
06-30-2005, 05:09 PM
never thought i would take these to get high

but i got a whole box of Benadryl for my allergys & was thinkin about taking some

what would be a good amout to take ? I dont wanna "trip balls" or get totally fucked up from it

just looking for maybe a weed enhancer or some sedative effects from them

25mg of Diphenhydramine in each pill

jadeius
06-30-2005, 05:55 PM
they're no good for a mild effect, but i've heard of people tripping on larger amounts, like a whole box....but that's only for the intense effect that you're not looking for...i wouldn't even fuck with them....go get some robitussing cough gels with dextromethorphan, they're better...don't get anything with any other active ingredients though

Encatuse
06-30-2005, 07:00 PM
Don't eat the whole fucking box. Cardiac arrest or some shit. Jeez.

Eat 600mg if you wanna trip.

He was right in saying they aren't good for mild effects. Can take like 100mg if you wanna enhance a dex trip, but that's dannngggerrrooouusss so don't tell anyone I advised it if you die.

jadeius
07-01-2005, 02:33 PM
yeah, really they're no good for any trip...they're good for itchy, watery eyes, runny nose, and itchy throat....

by the way, 600 mg is 24 pills, which IS a whole box

TasteTheRainbow
07-01-2005, 04:33 PM
Benadryl always put me asleep. Is it really possible to get high off of it?

terminator
07-02-2005, 05:24 AM
yah me and a friend took 600mg of this generic allergy med and while he was having a conversation with the tv, i was staring at my wall at this crevace (that is really there) that i made with a screwdriver when i was very bored, and i saw a spider come creeping out of it and walk around over and over again lol, and i knew in the back of my head it was probably not real but just incase i took my tissue box and started trying to squash it but it kept coming back lol. i also got up to go to the bathroom one of a million times i had to from the dehydration and i went to sit on my bed and i saw my posters lips start moving like the guy was talking to me hahah.

the hting with this though is that it made me feel miserable and you get sooo sleepy, but if your desperet to trip like i was, it will definitly make your walls swirl and move in and out lol.

i also was laying on my bed on my side waiting for my friend to come back from the bathroom and i would sit there with my eyes closed having a conversation with him and i would turn to see if he was actually there and he wasnt.. and then when i talked to him my voice seemed to be going really loud for a few words and then very quiet for the next few back and forth, and when i took a piss it seemed like the more i pissed, the brighter the lights got. haha

i will never take that shit again..i think..

i've never actually tripped on dxm like you guys seem to say it does, then again i've only taken 4 ounces of robo, and you guys all say you take 8+..so whats the trip like when you take that much?

jadeius
07-02-2005, 07:52 PM
dxm is a dissociative, which means you totally wonder out of your body, and a lot of people can look back down on their bodies, wonder off to different places/worlds, crazy out of body stuff...i've never gone that far though, i've taken 300 mg and it's a whole lot like ketamine,which is another dissociative.

Dick Justice
07-02-2005, 08:47 PM
I tried to take this for a low dose, hopefully to help me with dreaming. I just gave myself a mild nightmare trip where I couldn't fall asleep because every time I shut my eyes they would go into REM. Ghosts in my room, it was a fucked up night. It's either full trip or nil effect with these, I think.

NOTEHOOK
07-02-2005, 10:27 PM
Don't do it. It's a terrible high/trip and I never want to do it again. It ain't worth it bro. Gave me the shits for like 2 1/2 days too lol

makor01
07-03-2005, 03:19 AM
if you do it dont take more than 500mg, go above that and youre messing with death.

makor01
07-03-2005, 09:30 AM
dude read up on this shit youll see that after you pass 500mg+ youre playing with death.

Encatuse
07-03-2005, 11:27 AM
dude read up on this shit youll see that after you pass 500mg+ youre playing with death.

I really hate it when people say "read up on it" and then provide no place to do so that validates their claim.

The LD50 of Diphenhydramine in rats is 500mg/kg. Rats usually have higher LD's then human's though because they're tough as shit. But that's still pretty high. Especially when you weigh like 80 kg. I'm not recommending anyone use it to get high, but 500mg+ isn't playing with death to my knowledge..

Maybe I've just gotten lucky? Maybe the guy I know who eats a halfa box of benedryl every day he can steal one has, too. I dunno. It's a foolish high I guess, but don't spread false information about it to stop people from using it.

Death from it is "extremely rare" for adults unless you're allergic or have mixed it with something else. ((Death becomes alot more of a real issue when you're mixing it with alcohol, dxm, alot of other stuff, or when you're a youngin'.))

I'm not trying to argue that it's safe or anything. And I don't think it's a good idea to do too much. ((In fact, temporary insanity lies in large quantities of this stuff. And not the good, fun, kind of insanity either.)) But the only case of death I know of from diphenhydramine alone ((not that I've looked into it too much nor that it's the only one..)) is a case where a girl took 7500mg of it.

I just doubt you'll die from a trippers dose. ((500-800 mg)) Again though, I'm not encouraging this stuff, just stating

Link to back me up. (http://www.amjforensicmedicine.com/pt/re/ajfmp/abstract.00000433-199806000-00008.htm;jsessionid=CHGxN6fKAvt2aBC0mlK7EMp6bi1he JOjiHIzhTazIRt6Ff88viM6!512964740!-949856031!9001!-1)

PS - Different company's sell in different quantity, Jadius. That's why I said don't just recommend eating a box of em. Cuz the boxes I've always bought contain 1200mg ((48 Wal-Dryl's with 25mg each)) and that's an unnecessarily huge amount. More then you'd want to trip on unless you had a bigass tolerance built up and don't mind risking falling asleep without waking up or at the very least being eaten by thousands of spiders crawling out of the walls.

makor01
07-03-2005, 12:57 PM
ok encatuse, i can just be like everyone and post a fucking erowid link or whatever that fucking site is...or maybe i can speak from experience? Fucking imagine that dude someone on these boards speaking from experience...i happen to have a friend who took about 450-500mg and would of died if the emt's didnt there when they did. so you can say this is all "safe" and whatever, but when youre approaching the lethal dose of 500mg youre risking adverse effects.

so take your opinions about me not posting a link to back me up and shove them up your royal ass sir.

-later

Edgar
07-03-2005, 09:40 PM
Hey, your the one that said to "read up on this shit", and it just so happens that he did.

Encatuse
07-04-2005, 02:32 PM
Those two backed me up better then I could myself.

-laughs- Makor, listen, you didn't have to take what I said as a personal attack. You said something that was kinda goofy, swallow some pride and move on homedog. Ain't no need for "royal ass" comments, etc. 500mg isn't the lethal dosage in rats, it's 500mg/kg. I didn't attack you, so don't attack me.

And of course an erowid link is considered more valid then personal experience when it comes to anonymous members of a cannabis forum. Why? Because experiences can be falsified easily, whereas a valid erowid link can't.

((just repeats what they already said))
Besides, you did say read up on it, rather then "Please look through my memories and experiences." I just decided to read up on it was all. How old was your friend, Makor? I'll be honest, I don't care. I'm just more thinking that he was probably allergic if he did indeed die on a dose like 450-500 mg and solely that. It's not an uncommon allergy, I happen to be in the same household as someone who's allergic to it as I'm making this post. ;)

Perhaps consider changing your life message to "Don't trip on Diphenhydramine if you're allergic." ((Ha! Sorry, had to make up for that royal ass comment))

PS - I'm sorry your friend died.

jadeius
07-04-2005, 03:31 PM
maybe the emt's just made you think he would have died, to scare you or something? maybe that's what the emt's needed to think to get their little pat on the back and cookie for the day, wowzers, i saved a life kinda thing...

you know how people are that don't do drugs..."drugs are bad, m'kay?" well how would they know?

makor01
07-04-2005, 07:15 PM
no i would consider the convulsions and vomit spewing from his mouth as a prelude to death....personally encatuse take this shit all you want any amount whatever...one day maybe youll OD and we will have one less douchebag on this planet or maybe youll see what i was right when it comes to dosage in some cases.

Dick Justice
07-04-2005, 07:47 PM
Ever seen somebody freaking out on acid? Nothing but a thrashing tangle of limbs with sometimes a fountain of puke erupting from somewhere in the middle. Does that mean 3 hits of acid is lethal? Well, maybe if you choke on the blotter paper, but general concensus is no. People do weird shit.... things happen.

There shouldn't even be any doubt in your mind that the EMTs lied to you to scare you away from taking more drugs. I had a DARE cop tell me that marijuana contains a chemical that can make you insane, and that the chemical will stay in your brain for the rest of your life, triggering bouts of delirium at any given moment. Did I hear it from authority? Yes. Is it true? No.

Don't get all defensive about something you can't defend.

jadeius
07-04-2005, 09:14 PM
*3 snaps*

makor01
07-04-2005, 10:06 PM
3 snaps, stupid ass acid stories...what the fuck ever guys i know what i saw and heard....you wont talk me off of this one. Pop pills all day long if you like...snap till your fucking fingers fall off whatever its a free world i guess....at least somewhat.

-later
last time posting on this fucking thread.

jadeius
07-05-2005, 12:15 AM
waahhhhh, i got sand in my puss

Encatuse
07-05-2005, 03:52 AM
-llllaaauuuuggghhhssss- Makor, what's your major disfunction? Here, take one of these. -motions towards the xanax on the counter next to him- And four of these too... they'll calm you down man. -motions towards the same counter, which is covered in pink and white benedryls-

Anyway, now that you're calmed down a bit maybe you can give me a chance without flipping out. As I said before, I don't pop diphenhydramine. It's not what I'd call an enjoyable high. No one attacked you, you just got super defensive ((and offensive)) for no apparent reason. -shrugs- And the reason you aren't posting in this thread again is because everyone saw what a fool you made of yourself getting so worked up over me attempting to dispute an invalid fact you stated.

So stop being an ass, stop making a fool of yourself, apologize to the world ((and in particular, me. As I didn't attack you at all and all you can do it attack me because you know you don't have any sort of valid argument except for your friend's death, which you probably don't know all the specifics of since they do keep that information private. Maybe he took 500mg of benedryl and then swallowed a bottle of everclear, whole, without even chewing the glass.)) and make up some excuse like that you haven't had your anti-depressants in a few days, so that you can get over this and move on.

Scratch that, I'll let you go without an apology, because I'm a forgiving person and I know you're a reasonable enough guy to see what I'm saying and give it a chance with an open mind.

I assure you, I'm no douchebag. -blows kisses that smell like toothpaste rather then vaginal cleaning fluid just to prove it- I presented my original argument in a simple, nice way. I didn't accuse you of making your story up, I even apologized for your friends death when I had nothing to do with it! ((what a quality fucking guy I am! -laughs-))

So chill. Rarities happen. It sucks when they do. A person who eats psilocybin mushrooms can die from them if they're allergic to mushrooms and don't know it. This sucks when it happens. Big time. Happened at a friend of mine's high school in Wisconsin. The guy died with a half eaten bag of shrooms and a jar of peanut butter next to him. The mushrooms were his cause of death. Does this mean half a baggie of mushrooms is dangerous? Nope. Clearly, it doesn't.

Alright? So stop taking someone doubting a fact you made up as a personal attack. PLEASE. It's a ridiculous thing to do. And I say that you made up the fact based on the ((actual)) fact that you can't back it up, and don't even seem to try, but instead just textually assault me. ((Get it? Sounds like sexually assault me? Buh-dum-bum.))

Do you know why scientific studies are more valid then a one time event? Because scientific studies test it over and over to see the most common results. That's not to say if you fed 10000 people 500mg of diphenhydramine that one wouldn't die, one probably would. But does that mean it's unsafe for the other 9999 participants? Or that they're playing with death?

If you feed 10000 infants a bowl of peanuts, one might die from a peanut allergy. And don't think that just because one infant is dead that a bowl of peanuts is just asking for a swolen up throat that one can't breathe through. That's simply not the case.

I thought about what you said in your first post.. about "if everyone spoke from experience" and I added to that "in a factual manner" because that's what you did. Wouldn't that suck? Everything that everyone has ever died from ((Which is virtually everything... we're humans, frail creatures)) would be "playing with deaattttthhhhh".

Cmon man, you didn't present your argument in an even semi-logical way, ((First post: 500mg is near the LD for diphenhydramine! Read up on it! Next post: Well.. everything you read will say I'm wrong, but I know from experience!!!)) and now you're just throwing little tantrums because you realized that random flaming ((Or, being a douchebag, as it might better be known)) is your only hope for thread debate survival. ((-laughs- Dramatic huh?)) You actually encouraged me to die over this. Swallow your pride or forever look like a fool and a douchebag who gets far too emotionally involved when called on a bluff. Those are your options, son, choose wisely. -laughs- Kidding, I'm sure it doesn't even matter to you.

Encatuse
07-05-2005, 03:52 AM
Holy cow that was a long post.

Dick Justice
07-05-2005, 04:39 AM
Of note: the buh-dum-bum thing is known as a rimshot, in case you didn't already know.

I myself prefer the phra-dump-tchhh method, to incorporate the cymbal. Mais pour toi, c'est pas pour moi... or something.

Encatuse
07-05-2005, 04:55 AM
Yeah. I didn't realize how necessary the cymbal is until you made that post Dick. Buh dum bum is pretty boring unless you throw a Tchhh in there.

On a side note: I'm gonna be doing acid here soon hopefully, if noobie comes through. Do you think 3 hits is too much for a first dose? I've done shrooms in quantity and stuff. But in your example of the person flipping out on three hits, I don't wanna be that person. -laughs- I want the "Full LSD experience" though, and I have this strong suspicion that I'll have a weed + lsd induced lack of self control and end up eating the remaining four hits to drag out my trip before my tolerance drops again if I just take one hit for the first time. That's what happened with the shrooms and I regret it, I could've had like 7 good trips, but instead I just had one two and a half day trip that I fueled with another eighth whenever I started coming down.

Dick Justice
07-05-2005, 05:11 AM
Well dont worry, that person who freaked was an idiot, freaked himself out by sitting alone to watch that stupid Rob Zombie movie.

3 hits would be cool, I'm also hoping for nobie's mail soon. What kind of circumstances would you be tripping in? Cause unless it's gonna be at a Russian circus or at the policeman's ball, 3 hits should be okay.

Also (I know ezjim will back me up on this) make sure to have some beer around so you don't wind up like a pile of needles.

Encatuse
07-05-2005, 05:19 AM
-laughs- I don't drink beer, but I'll some sort of alcohol around no doubt. And I'll just be tripping in my house with a friend who's also tripping, hopefully the russian circus won't be in town at the time, because my friend might want to go.

So have you already sent you money to noobie? Because I haven't and I'm not gonna have it til friday anyway, so if you have I'll prolly wait until you get your stuff. Make sure to post or something when you do. ^^ Or email me if it's not a pain in the ass and you don't feel like posting about it.

Dick Justice
07-05-2005, 05:33 AM
Yeah I already sent some cash, I'll make sure to vouch for him if he's legit, which I'm 99.9% sure he is, seeing as lots of different people on the boards have spoken for him already.

I sent money on Friday or Saturday I think, so I'll have my mail sometime in this week if nothing goes wrong. (My mail frequently goes wrong.)

kaela
07-14-2005, 09:08 PM
I have 200mg of Dramamine (Dymenhydrinate) and 225mg of Benedryl (Diphenhydramine).

How much should I take of each to get a pretty trippy high? When will it hit me?
I'm going to be taking it around 2:30, going to the movies at 3:30. I'll be in the movie theater till probably after 6. When will I begin to come off it?

NOTEHOOK
07-14-2005, 09:29 PM
Ok, with Diphenhydramine 225mg ain't really enough to make you trip, and I don't have much experience with Dramamine. Though when I did trip on Diphehydramine I really couldn't hardly move, but that seems to be a staple of my drug-usage: not wanting to move (except for some shit). So good luck walking around while on Diphenhydramine. I fell asleep before I came down so.... can't help you there.