Beeble vs Nicholass

[Fengzi]

Funny, I was just about to post this when the thread got closed. I'll probably get banned for this but what the hell:

" Uh oh, now Beeble really has a dilema. I'm sure he is just dying to ban Nicholas for standing up for himself and disagreeing with Beeble. If he does though, he'll just prove that the power that comes with being a mod had gone to his head and Nicholass really will become a martyr. Hmmnn, what a beeble to do?????"

[Beeblebrox.420]

It's not a ban, it's a suspension. All he's doing is twisting my arguments and acting all hysterical because I *gasp* dared to close one of HIS threads. Frankly, he's acting like a baby about the whole thing and I've had enough of it. I doubt he'll be very repentent when he returns, but one can hope.

[Nullific]

The whole thing is bullshit.
Just unban Nicholas and apologize Beeble. Then go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.

[Beeblebrox.420]

Doesn't work that way, kid.

[yocass]

I dare you to read his last post and not mutter to yourself "what a dip" All he does is bitch about stuff. At least pisshead actually wants an arguement instead of TRYING to make everyone hate him and turn it into a bitching fest. I mean... he posts a thread called "christianity is bullshit" and expects actual opinions? Cmon, hes stupid but not retarded.

[BlueCat]

Hi Fengzi..... :D
I think at most Nic was insensitive....but closing the thread? Maybe Nic should just reword his question....

I for one thought it would be a good debate....why should talking about religion be taboo? Calling it BS was not very nice...

I am not caught up in reading all the threads so I will hold my judgement...
Banning should really be a last resort....IMHO it is unhealthy sensorship....

[bhallg2k]

Saying "Christianity is bullshit" is an expression of an opinion, whether you like it or not and whether you think it's in poor taste or not. And in today's America, that's just as much of a political statement as any you can make.

If Christians can use their faith as a political argument, non-Christians can just as easily turn the tables and use that very same argument against them. It's something I've done countless times.

When I ask someone of faith to pick out which creation story in Genesis they believe out of the seven, that's me saying Christianity is bullshit. When I ask them about the tenents stated in Leviticus as an argument against a literal interpretation of the Bible and using faith to justify prejudice against gays, that's me saying Christianity is bullshit.

The difference between me and Nicholas is that I don't come right out and say "Christianity is bullshit" because I think it's a crass statement, but not an untrue one.

Seems to me the only thing Nicholas is guilty of is having the temerity to take on a thin-skinned moderator. And it's totally ridiculous that he should be "repentant" of that, as has been suggested.

[BlueCat]

Ahhh I just finished reading the rest... beeb was right in saying Nic didn't bother to support his assertion....so it was baiting but then there are a lot of threads like that...

I really don't think he should have been banned...

[BlueCat]

Saying "Christianity is bullshit" is an expression of an opinion, whether you like it or not and whether you think it's in poor taste or not. And in today's America, that's just as much of a political statement as any you can make.

If Christians can use their faith as a political argument, non-Christians can just as easily turn the tables and use that very same argument against them. It's something I've done countless times.

When I ask someone of faith to pick out which creation story in Genesis they believe out of the seven, that's me saying Christianity is bullshit. When I ask them about the tenents stated in Leviticus as an argument against a literal interpretation of the Bible and using faith to justify prejudice against gays, that's me saying Christianity is bullshit.

The difference between me and Nicholas is that I don't come right out and say "Christianity is bullshit" because I think it's a crass statement, but not an untrue one.

Seems to me the only thing Nicholas is guilty of is having the temerity to take on a thin-skinned moderator. And it's totally ridiculous that he should be "repentant" of that, as has been suggested.

Yes but the point here Bhall is you backed up your statements (quite well I might add ;) ....making a valid argument...Nic did not...but he still should not have been banned...come on Beeble... :rolleyes:

[Beeblebrox.420]

Come on, nothing. Nick conveniently forgot that we had this conversation about baiting and mischaracterizing people's statements in this thread (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=21938&page=4&pp=25). Y'all gotta relax. He's only suspended for a week. It won't kill him.

[XTC]

I did kinda think that Nick's thread topic "Christanity is Bullshit" was rather insulting. I'm agnostic too! Plus it didn't fit into politics persay. Ya Ya I am expecting the whole slew of the Religion Right agrument now. Anyways, I'm done with this thread. Good Call Beeble.

[Beeblebrox.420]

Thanks, X. :)

[Psycho4Bud]

A new product for Martyr Nich:

[BlueCat]

your just being mean now...this thread is dead

[heartsurgerysurviver]

Oh, for fuck's sake. Next, you'll be nailing yourself to a cross for our sins, eh? Well, take a week off, courtesy of yours truly. If you don't like the rules, you can go someplace else. No one's saying you can't express your opinion, so stop the disingenuous bullshit. Good lord, you're acting like I erased the 18 minutes on the Nixon tape instead of closing a stupid thread.
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Beeble

I don't see anywhere in the "rules" where someone can't make a statement like nic did " christianity is bullshit" . It is a vaid opinion, one that does merit debate, Ok maybe, and a big maybe at that, it didn't belong in the political section. { Which is debateable too} . But banning him for a week because of it?? Come on, you 2 have butted heads before and you suspend him over this?? What's next you suspending me over asking a question you don't like??? The rest of the mods , kiwi, lulu, honey, naulman, and zandor combined don't have the locked threads, deleted threads and suspensions that you do it seems, they are doing a great job in my opinion. You have seemed to take your personal opinion of nic a bit too far in my opinion. I know my opinion doesn't mean a thing to you, that's your right.
All i see is you not likeing what he said so you suspend him. Can you show me the rule he broke so i and others don't make the same mistake.
thank you for your time in this matter
peace
heart

[Edgar]

bump

Yes i would also like to see these "rules" that he supposedly broke.

[BlueCat]

I agree with Beeb on a lot of things I mean it was a good call when he took up for the kid that hates weed but I think you went overboard on Nic...

So when can he come back?

[Beeblebrox.420]

So when can he come back? I just looked and his ban was due to be automatically lifted in 14 hours. Close enough for me, so I've let him back in.

[EverydayJunglist]

HAhahaHHHA.....i agree with null...if i said fuck christianity would i get banned?

[Beeblebrox.420]

No. But if that was the sum total of of your thread, it would get closed. Let me remind you that he wasn't banned for starting the thread "Christianity is Bullshit", he got the boot for giving me and everyone else the same shit he gave before, even after he agreed not to.

[EverydayJunglist]

would i get banned if i said you are the hitler of the cannabis mods?

[Beeblebrox.420]

Dunno. Maybe :D

[makor01]

lmfao thats classic.

[NowhereMan]

would i get banned if i said you are the hitler of the cannabis mods?

why must they seek to find out
where is the line to cross
is it that they just cant stannd
that its someone else who is boss ?


i made that up just for u Beeble

[EverydayJunglist]

jesus nowhereman.....its called a joke..and he ain't the boss anyways...ron is the shotcaller

[BlueCat]

Thanks Beeble....

[nicholasstanko]

Thanks Beeble....

Yeh..."thanks"


Alright forget the bravado and testosterone from both sides. mine included. alright i will apologize for having a short thread. i didnt mean to piss off people. i wanted to launch a debate that was fueled by someone standing up and giving an honest opinion. i didnt want someone to take my views and construct arguements from it. i would have put my views in after a couple people started and i wouldnt have baited them into arguing with me. i still think you're way too power-mad but lets just squash it and leave it alone.

This is a moot point and its even a moot thread. i just wanted to be the last one with a word in.

[Beeblebrox.420]

Well, that's better. We can agree to disagree and move on. Shall I close the other thread? I am willing to forget you ever posted it.

[nicholasstanko]

Well, that's better. We can agree to disagree and move on. Shall I close the other thread? I am willing to forget you ever posted it.


sure why not.