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Dick Justice
06-28-2005, 03:59 AM
There's quite a few of the same questions getting asked again and again (no offense to anybody, you can't learn if you don't ask) and I thought something like this might be useful. That way, standard questions will be answered here so more unique threads won't be pushed down out of view.

I know there's already erowid for this, but some people tend not to use erowid, or simply can't find the info they're looking for. I've also tried to do it in order of how often questions about these substances get asked.

It's divided up into the same questions: what is it, is it safe, what's an appropriate dose, where can I find it, how do I take it, and what is the experience like? If anyone can think of anything to add, add it!

* If anyone has any corrections or anything to add, post it and maybe a mod would be kind enough to add your revisions to the master list.

DXM

Q: What is DXM?

DXM is short for dextromethorphan, a dissociative chemical that also works as a cough suppressant in low doses.

Q: Is it safe?

As with other dissociatives such as PCP and Ketamine, it's suspected that excessive use can cause Olney's lesions on the brain. There have been no human cases of this, however.

Also, it is possible to overdose on DXM. While an overdose level is dependent on the user's weight, the generally accepted DO NOT PASS GO DO NOT COLLECT $200 limit is 1,500 mg.

On top of that, DXM can be addictive, and prolonged use can put you in a little haze for months afterward, even when you stop using it.

Used responsibly, though, it's one of the safer drugs you can take.

Q: How much should I take?

DXM trips are generally categorized into four plateaus, each of which can be controlled relatively easily by simply monitoring how much cough syrup you drink. The measurements are on the back of the bottle so there's not much guessing involved.

1st: 100-250 mg
2nd: 250-400 mg
3rd: 400-700 mg
4th: 700-1000 mg

Doses beyond 1,000 mg run the risk of overdose, but each individual reacts differently.

Q: Where can I get it?

You can find it in standard cough syrups. Check the bottle to see how much dex is in it, and dose accordingly.

WARNING: There is dex in Coricidin Cough & Cold. There is also another chemical, CPM, which is REALLY FUCKING DANGEROUS if you dose incorrectly, side effects may include permanent organ damage and you DYING, so don't fuck with Triple C's. Some people will tell you they always dose on CCC's and you have nothing to worry about--these people are idiots, and if I were you I wouldn't be taking no drug advice from no idiots.

Q: How do I take it?

Chug cough syrup. Seems easy enough. You can also buy powdered DXM from various pharm suppliers... don't snort the powder.

Q: What's it like?

The 1st plateau is a fairly chill stoned-drunk feeling. Simple.

The 2nd plateau gets a little weirder, but is still mostly free of hallucinations and dissociative activity. Also simple.

The 3rd plateau is where the line is crossed from "high" to "tripping," and some people find that stage to be a bit edgy. Other people love it, and enjoy the creeping confusion and separation of mind from body.

The 4th plateau is such an intense out-of-body-and-mind experience that few people ever reach it. One of the common phenomena featured in 4th plateau doses is the seeming appearance of aliens or ghosts, usually who talk to you and tell you secrets of the universe. In other words, don't fuck around with a 4th plateau dose unless you're ready to hear the meaning of life from a little green man.

The experience tends to last about in the neighborhood of six hours.

NOTE: Sometimes people can get the robo-itch. Basically, it means you itch. It's not going to kill you, so if it happens don't freak and call 911, and also be careful not to scratch your skin to shreds. Just smoke some cannabis and let it pass.

SALVIA DIVINORUM

Q: What is it?

Glad you asked. It's a sage that grows in Oaxaca, Mexico... and ONLY in Oaxaca, Mexico. It's also about the weirdest thing that will ever happen to you. It contains a chemical called salvinorin A, as well as teeny trace amounts of DMT, and the leaf can be smoked, chewed, vaporized or made into a more powerful extract which can then be smoked.

Q: Is it safe?

Yes, very. The only risks involved are the high temperature that some people experience (if you have a heart condition I'd suggest not tripping on salvia) and the obvious risk of doing something insane while under the influence. You may not think you need a sitter, and you may think you've done it all. Yeah, I thought so too. Twenty minutes later, I would have changed my mind about all that--if I could even find it.

Q: How much should I take?

If you have plain leaf, four or five of the biggest bong rips you can manage.

If you have extract, two or three of the biggest bong rips you can manage.

If you decide to bundle up the leaves in a quid and chew on em, use a good 20 or 30 leaves.

NOTE: For smoking, you need to get a butane or torch flame, and KEEP THE FLAME ON THE BOWL the whole time you inhale. It needs to be hotter than just a burning point, the chemical needs to vaporize itself. That's why you can really only do it out of a bong. Pipes work, but not as well, and a salvia joint just doesn't work at all.

Q: Where can I find it?

Mexico. Or the internet. Or some headshop. It's not exactly an easy plant to grow, and when it seeds on its own that's considered to be a big deal, so any salvia seeds you buy off the internet are not salvia divinorum seeds. Just go ahead and buy it, it's ridiculously hard to grow.

Q: What's it like?

Generally escapes description, but I'll try. You'll usually find yourself getting sweaty and feeling like you're being pushed or pulled by something you can't see. The best idea is to just lie down, because moving around can be dangerous. Completely new realities can manifest themselves around you, and it's easy to forgot you've just smoked something. Expect to turn into an inanimate object, to meet elves and space aliens, to fly, to wake up at the bus stop, etc. Beyond words, very heavy shit.

SHROOMS

Q: What is it?

When people talk about shrooms, they generally mean shrooms that contain psilocybin. There are also another kind, however, called Amanita Muscaria. About the only thing Amanitas have in common with psilocybin mushrooms is the fact that they're mushrooms. I have not had Amanitas personally, but I have gathered enough information to know that the experiences are not at all the same.

Anyway, psilocybin shrooms are fun little caps that grow in cow shit and my closet (whoops) and can be eaten for the classic "trip." While often compared to LSD, the experience is notably different, despite having similar effects.

Q: Is it safe?

Very. To OD you'd literally have to eat your own weight in shrooms, and unless you weigh below a pound I'd say that's pretty impossible. The only other risk is doing dangerous stuff while tripping. Try to avoid driving, rock climbing, pipe-bomb building, talking to police, etc.

Q: How much should I take?

If you're asking this question, it probably means you've never tripped before. If that is the case, then the usual answer is 3.5 grams (1/8th). That seems to be the magic number, as it's heavy enough for a decent trip, but still light enough that if it starts to go bad you can turn it around again. I've been able to talk to my parents on this dose.

Q: Where can I find it?

Fields in Canada and the UK and Florida and stuff. I don't know exact regions, so just google around if you want to go hunting.

WARNING: It's hard to identify magic mushrooms from any other kind, including poisonous mushrooms. Unless you know a mycologist, I'd advise against it. If you have to ask what a mycologist is, just ring up your friendly neighborhood drug dealer and get your shrooms from him.

Q: How do I take it?

As they so instructively told Alice: EAT ME. They tend to taste kind of nasty (having spent most of their lives in cow shit) so it's best if you put em on top of a pizza or in a peanut butter sandwich. Also, you probably don't want to eat for a few hours before the trip, or if it's too late for you to do that, at least take a shit before you eat em. Otherwise nausea is more likely to come up on you, and if you start puking during a trip that can be a downward spiral.

Q: What's it like?

It's like your subconscious and your conscious become one in the same. The example I usually give is that normally, a person who wears a shirt with vertical stripes may seem taller. On shrooms, that person will actually get taller.

Also, some blending of the senses tends to occur. Colors are smellable, music is orgasmic and delicious, and seeing someone you love can literally make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Expect the usual breathing walls and drippy wood grains. The mind trip is very philosophical and tends to bombard you with so many revelations and wonders that you can't possibly keep track of them all. Any information that normally registers in your subconscious is brought straight to the surface, and because of that you start to understand yourself and your surroundings a little better. It's nice.

Lasts about six hours.

LSD

Q: What is it?

Lysergic acid di-ethyl-amide. Acid. Tabs, doses, trips, blotters, whatever name you give it, it always comes up to mean the same thing: magic.

It's a highly potent chemical derived from the ergot fungus, and it's active in doses of micrograms. It's also easy to get into the system, as pretty much any point of entry that's wet will let it in.

Usually, LSD is to blame for that weird guy with no shirt and sometimes no pants who wanders around your town green looking for a bicycle every day. In the words of EverydayJunglist: "Every town has a permatripper."

Q: Is it safe?

Used wisely, yeah. It's pretty hard to OD on it, and about the only form of overdose is to permanently fuck your mind so bad that you never come back out of it. That rarely happens, though, and unless you have some pre-existing mental problems, you shouldn't worry about it. Of course, if you do have serious mental problems you shouldn't be taking any psychedelics, or even reading this guide.

Q: How much should I take?

It's really only available in two forms: blotters and drops. A blotter is a segmented piece of paper (printed with a trippy picture) that has perforations so you can break it into four pieces. Each piece will have a hit on it. It's best to start with two hits, wait for the trip to come up, and then decide if you want to take more.

There also used to be little pills called microdots, which in themselves are generally good for a whole trip. Don't expect to find those around, though, they haven't been popular for almost forty years.

As for drops, two drops = two hits. Easy enough.

Q: Where can I find it?

Not many places anymore, unfortunately. Ask your dealer.

Q: How do I take it?

Blotter paper can be placed on the tongue, or any other wet spot on the body, and allowed to absorb in. Drops can be put on the tongue or in your eyes.

Q: What's it like?

Visual patterning galore, orgasmic body high, edgy metallic feeling, racing thoughts, creeping and swelling and exploding hallucinations.

Usually lasts around twelve hours, and most people feel physically and emotionally exhausted by the time it's over.

ECSTASY

Q: What is it?

MDMA, methylenedioxymethamphetamine (say that three times fast). You may notice "methamphetamine" jumbled in there. It's not tweek in any way, the prefix is used entirely differently. Ecstasy is a phenethylamine. If you really wanna know what that word means, google it, cause I don't feel like explaining.

Q: Is it safe?

Very. There are misconceptions about it making holes in your brain and such, but that stems from misread brain scans. There have been lots of studies done, and it's been shown to be very safe even in fairly high-dose, long-term usage.

The main thing to worry about is dehydration, just have a bottle of water handy. And remember, don't go overboard with the water either, there is such a thing as water poisoning.

There's also the danger of it not being ecstasy at all. Try and know your source, because people will pass of ketamine, dex, speed, caffeine and even sugar as ecstasy pills.

Q: How much should I take?

One pill is enough for your first time. If your tolerance starts to rise you can take larger and larger doses, but there are products available that should "reset" your brain and bring you back to your original spot so you don't have to keep upping the dosage. I believe one of them is called "After-E," and is generally very effective.

Q: Where can I find it?

Raves, dealers. Raves.

Q: How do I take it?

Swallow it, blow it, stuff it up your ass, it's all good.

Q: What's it like?

It's like heaven. You'll be floored by the beauty in everything. You know that movie American Beauty? That scene where Ricky talks about the plastic bag? That's ecstasy in a nutshell.

MESCALINE

Q: What is it?

It's the chemical in San Pedro and Peyote cacti that makes you trip. The cacti have other active alkaloids in them that make a cactus trip notably different from a pure mescaline trip, but the basics are all there.

Q: Is it safe?

I think one guy died from an allergic reaction to it once. That's about it. It's actually so safe, and the trip is so clear-headed, that I'm trying to amass a large enough supply to trip on it for one day of each week of school, when summer ends. Everyone reacts differently, but there are no physical or psychological side effects you should worry about.

Q: How much should I take?

If you're talking miligrams of pure mescaline, about the lightest you wanna go is 150 mg, and the heaviest is about 600 mg. Any lower is unnoticable, and any higher is overkill.

Q: Where can I find it?

If it's pure mescaline, it'll be in pills. If it's cactus mescaline, it'll... probably still be in pills. The actual cactuses are, amazingly, not illegal, so you can get em pretty much anyplace. San Pedroes are native to the Andes and Peyote grow in the American southwest, and probably some other places I'm just ignorant of.

Q: How do I take it?

If you have San Pedro, I would take a segment about as long as your forearm, dry it, powder it, put the powder into gelcaps, and swallow them. If it's Peyote, dig out the white tufts and eat five to ten of the funny, round cacti (called buttons). It tends to taste pretty nasty, so pills or some kind of delicious recipe are recommended.

Q: What's it like?

Visuals are way different from acid or shrooms. They tend to be more like, well, "visions" than simple distortions of images. It's not uncommon to look around a room and see it as perfectly normal, but then focus on a blank wall and see a very realistic sea creature manifest itself as a shadow, and then as a colored shadow, and then as a 3-D hallucination.

Also, your mind will be clear in the sense that you can do your daily shit on it, but you will still be learning the meaning of the universe at lightning speed and double-triple-quadruple-octuple-analysing everything you encounter. Everything becomes a metaphor or an allegory for something.

And you seem to get increased sexual energy, which isn't bad at all.




That's all I can churn out for now. If anybody is moved to, please, correct my shit, add onto it, write your own stuff along similar guidelines, etc. This is a work in progress, and we ought to pour as much knowledge as possible into it.

EverydayJunglist
06-28-2005, 02:30 PM
damn dick that is good as fuck,and humorous...a double edged sword indeed......someone should really sticky that shit...permatripper lol

maybe we should add a section on what drugs NOT to ask if you can get off on.....for all the people trying to get high on ibuprofen and things of that nature.

ILikeBubblers
06-28-2005, 11:54 PM
wow u answerd all my questions thanx :)

haha
06-29-2005, 05:13 AM
Dick, PM this thread to a moderator. I'm sure he will sticky it at the top of the page.

TasteTheRainbow
06-30-2005, 12:47 AM
Thanks for posting that...very informative. :)

AcidFreak
06-30-2005, 07:08 AM
So...don't take Coricidin? Only take he tablets that have only DXM as the only active ingredient? And once again, avoid Coricidin at all costs?

Sentinel
06-30-2005, 08:24 AM
Nice guide, I would use a bit more caution in saying exstacy is very safe, as it is usually cut with crystal meth and other crap and drains serotonin levels in the brain.Good info though.

ZigZagZeppelin
06-30-2005, 12:03 PM
Nice guide, DJ.

good job with one exception, IMO. The following statement is bullshit:

There also used to be little pills called microdots, which in themselves are generally good for a whole trip. Don't expect to find those around, though, they haven't been popular for almost forty years.

THEY ARE around & have been ever since I can remember.

EverydayJunglist
06-30-2005, 01:09 PM
^^u can get microdots??? SHit ill drive out to the dam and hook you up with like 10

harmonicminor
06-30-2005, 01:23 PM
right I wouldnt mind getting some dots zigzag
I used to pop them with a lighter and snort them and they would hit in 15 minutes

ZigZagZeppelin
06-30-2005, 02:28 PM
I'll hook up certain folks with herb but I no longer am involved in any chemicals. Im removed from the scene.

Harmonic, if u have friends in Saratoga u should be able to score.

Dick Justice
06-30-2005, 03:12 PM
Oh damn I didn't realize there was still microdots going around! I've got the America-centric attitude showing in that one :p

EverydayJunglist
07-01-2005, 04:55 AM
Thank you to ron or the mod who stickyed this.

Dick Justice
07-01-2005, 07:56 PM
Oh awesome, thanks. whoever you are...

yoda
07-03-2005, 08:28 PM
thanks for investing time in this dick. answers about any questions that i think i could have.

Jake0steve
07-03-2005, 10:25 PM
Usually, LSD is to blame for that weird guy with no shirt and sometimes no pants who wanders around your town green looking for a bicycle every day. In the words of EverydayJunglist: "Every town has a permatripper."

Heh, people always talk about this weird guy in my town who always walks around talking about how he is Bruce Lee (or someone like that) and if you say anything negative about Bruce Lee he tries to beat the crap out of you. Everyone said he took too much acid a long time ago. Unsure of if its that or if he is just crazy..

jadeius
07-04-2005, 04:13 PM
that is an awesome guide....that really should cut down on the frequency of those questions being asked

what about the morning glory seeds part of it? dick, you know how much people ask about that one, i did at one point...anyways, here's what i know about them...

it is safe, i've actually done them without having any bad effects except a rumbly stomach, you may have to poop lol

it's kinda a shroomy effect...i felt pretty much the same on shrooms as i did on morning glory seeds....

oh yeah, they contain LSA, that's the drug, chemically related to LSD, yet the effect is supposed to be way different...

you can grind them up or pound them with a hammer, since they're woody, and eat them that way....i recommend about 300 for the first time, i took actually about 350...the only nausea i got was from being a little nervous and apprehensive about them until they started working...when i was tripping though, MAN! you just clench down your teeth and grin like hell and the whole idea of conscious and subconscious merging seems to hold true

heavenly blue morning glory seeds are what i used, but i hear good things about pearly gates and flying saucers, so they're prolly worth a try....if anyone buys them in the little packets, then wash the seeds before using them...also you can grind them up and pour just enough everclear over them to cover them. let it soak for about 2 or 3 days, covered, stirring lightly at intervals...then strain off JUST the liquid and drink it....careful about how much everclear u use though because it's STRONG AS HELL, and you'll end up too drunk to even remember the trip if you use too much...generally i wouldn't use more than a shot glass full unless you're doing a bulk extraction....but the whole point of that extraction is to keep from having to eat the little trace amounts of soap and impurities that occur in the seeds naturally, which won't kill your or anything...

hope that helps for someone questioning the idea of morning glory seeds, oh, one more thing, you can find the seeds anywhere from grocery stores to hardware/department stores, to garden shops, etc....just remember that seeds are seasonal for a lot of stores...wal-mart, lowes, home depot, bi-lo, all those places send all their seeds back to their suppliers early on in the summer....to be sure, just call the store you'd like to buy them from, ask for their garden center or whatever, and then ask the specialist if they still have a seed rack out...

Dick Justice
07-04-2005, 04:23 PM
Sweeeet, thanks. Another common question-list down.

Hey you think two pounds is enough for an entire Gatorade dispenser's worth of Kool Aid? That is, if a good eight people wanna get mindfucked?

jadeius
07-04-2005, 04:35 PM
i confused

ILikeBubblers
07-04-2005, 06:05 PM
I done dxm before i drank 6oz. of tussin max strength. I didnt really see shit just felt very drunk and a bit numb and weird. Would rippin some bongs hits do good for me, like intensify it for the better.

jadeius
07-04-2005, 06:08 PM
it'll definitely make it different...

ILikeBubblers
07-04-2005, 06:25 PM
word

jadeius
07-04-2005, 09:29 PM
i would take it once without smoking weed though, just to see how it is by itself, not necessarily before you combine the 2 though...i smoked weed when i did dxm and it was alright, but i think it makes it harder to feel euphoric, especially if you're prone to getting paranoid or anxious from weed

Dick Justice
07-05-2005, 06:02 PM
ADDITIONS:

what is it, is it safe, what's an appropriate dose, where can I find it, how do I take it, and what is the experience like? If anyone can think of anything to add, add it!

DATURA/BELLADONNA/NIGHTSHADE/BRUGMANSIA/HENBANE/ETC

What the fuck is this shit?

It's a plant, and variations of it grow pretty much everywhere. It's also a deliriant, meaning it doesn't cause you to "trip," it causes you to "go batshit insane."

Is it safe?

No. It's deadly-ass poisonous, and the dose for the high is too close to the OD for anybody's comfort. On top of that, nobody ever seems to have a good experience with it.... I mean some people do, but some people like to suffocate themselves while they jerk off, these people are usually the minority.

How much do I take?

None, preferably. But if you're really hellbent on taking it..... I can't give a dose, I can't be held responsible for somebody dying because of something I wrote here. Try www.erowid.org, you crazy bastard.

Where can I find it?

Grows in landfills, by the traintracks, you can get the seeds anywhere since it's legal, etc.

How do I take it?

Some people just pop down seeds, but the way that would allow the most control over your dose would probably be making a tea. I shouldn't have to explain that, everyone knows how to make tea.

What's it like?

In addition to relaxing your skeletal muscles, it also creates hallucinations like what you get from a Benadryl trip--which is to say TRUE hallucinations, where you believe what you see. It can cause you go to temporarily or permanently blind, depending on your dose and your luck. And like I said, nobody seems to enjoy the experience. I can't give any more info because I've never taken it. Something about the names "Devil's Weed," "Deadly Nightshade," "Devil's Apple," etc just scared me away from it.








I'll do one for Benadryl and Dramamine later.

5HT
07-06-2005, 06:17 AM
does salvia eally have DMT? if so, how much? and how would it still be legal because DMT is scheduled?

jadeius
07-06-2005, 03:31 PM
but some people like to suffocate themselves while they jerk off

lol

hey, whatever floats their boat

my b/f once fucked a guy that like to be choked

kaela
07-11-2005, 03:47 AM
X is not safe at all man. i stay away from that shit. 2 pills the first time can kill you

dark0ne
07-11-2005, 06:31 AM
first time i rolled i took4 of these red pills. i was rolling like a motherfucer. i want to try the morning glory seeds, how many packetts do you have to get? also are they a big seed, 300 is alot of seeds to be eating.

jadeius
07-11-2005, 03:12 PM
X is not safe at all man. i stay away from that shit. 2 pills the first time can kill you

anything can kill you the first time if you're allergic...that's just shit the government says to scare people...you must have seen that commercial on tv where the girl dropped dead in the middle of the dance floor...in the rare case that it does happen, it's because they were allergic or died from dehydration, you gotta have a little common sense and know what you're doing when you do it....like you gotta drink water...and it's good to keep something to chew on because some people clench down a lot and i know one guy who chews on the side of his mouth

jadeius
07-11-2005, 03:13 PM
first time i rolled i took4 of these red pills. i was rolling like a motherfucer. i want to try the morning glory seeds, how many packetts do you have to get? also are they a big seed, 300 is alot of seeds to be eating.

read above, i wrote all about morning glory seeds on the first page

jadeius
07-11-2005, 03:19 PM
also, there's on average 50 seeds in a 1.5 gram packet.
and no, the seeds are tiny, but they're very hard, woody, and sturdy, and your body won't digest all that woody material, so make sure you crush up every last seed, i would just pound each one with a hammer, it can get tedious

haha
07-17-2005, 04:02 AM
I have a question about shrooms. I've done them once before, and I was wondering, do you eat the caps and the stems, or just one or the other? I ate both the caps and the stems.

Dick Justice
07-17-2005, 04:03 AM
I eat both, some people swear that taking the stems is a body buzz and the caps is a head buzz and together they make a full mushroom trip, but those people are probably wrong and I don't care anyway. Bottoms up!

haha
07-17-2005, 04:08 AM
Ok, good.

Also, when I ate them, they made me really nautious after the first 30 minutes, and I felt nautious for about 45 minutes to an hour. What was the cause of this? I read the information about shrooms on the first page, and it said eating too much causes this. I ate 4.5 inches of my six inch Subway Steak and Cheese an hour before I took the mushrooms, and when I took the shrooms, I put them in the 1.5 inch sub and ate them. Is it possible that what I ate an hour beforehand affected my trip somehow and made me nautious?

I thought it was the other way around; if you eat them on an empty stomach, you might end up puking, but apparently, this is not true. Which is it?

Dick Justice
07-17-2005, 04:16 AM
Apparently if you eat them on an empty stomach, not only does it metabolize them quicker but it also represses the vomit urge because it feels you need them to stay down as food. It fulfills the hunger need, or so the legend goes. I've never had nausea from shrooms that wasn't just me wincing at the fresh cow-poop taste.

haha
07-17-2005, 04:45 AM
Let's say you were to make a tea of it; would you then feel nautious, or is that just not enough "food" to make you nautious?

How would you go about making shroom tea?

dark0ne
07-17-2005, 03:24 PM
unlike pot, shrooms are water soluable. take the 1/8 or 1/4 boil some water, put the shrooms in a coffie filter, and tie up the end put into the water. i also add like 1-2 teabags after, so that funky woody taste doesn't get to me.

the o
07-23-2005, 05:50 PM
hey, this is a tad off topic but i bought some fresh shrooms and i've had 'em about 2 weeks maybe, i kept them in this drawer and i went to check on them and they had loadsa brown water in the baggies, i presume theyre still safe to take but just thought i'd check

Chaffinch88
07-26-2005, 12:43 AM
Great guide, it's possible to have an allergic reaction to ecstasy, though. There was this girl in england who died from her brain swelling and being crushed in her skull.

Purge
07-27-2005, 09:37 PM
is there any way to find out if your allergic to it or not before you actually take it?

VALAWRE
07-27-2005, 10:18 PM
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WEBSITE. I'M LEARNING SOME OF THIS STUFF THE HARD WAY. SUNDAY NIGHT MY SON AND A FRIEND WERE FOUND LAYING IN THE STREET UNCONSIOUS. HE'S NOW IN THE HOSPITAL IN THE CORINARY CARE UNIT BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT GET HIS HEART RATE DOWN. THEY BOTH TOOK OVER 50 TRIPLE C's AND SOMEONE DUMPED THEM OUT OF THEIR VAN AND DROVE AWAY. HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF PROMOTING THE USE OF THIS CRAP?

jadeius
07-27-2005, 10:34 PM
well, NOBODY promotes the use of triple C's...everyone tells you NOT to use triple c's because they have more than just dextromethorphan in them...the other ingredients are very harmful...and you also said they took.....FIFTY...of them...fifty pills times 30 mg of DXM in each pill is 1500 mg of just DXM...not to mention the other ingredients of DXM...no ma'am, we don't recommend using any DXM drug that has anything other than DXM, actually we warn against it...and we wouldn't EVER tell any amateur to take more than about 300 mg of DXM their first time...anyone who takes more than this is just a fuckin dumbass who has not researched enough before they took the shit...1500 mg is WAY TOO MUCH for any beginner...probably too much for an experienced user...taking CCC's is just stupid when there are so many threads here where people warn against them...maybe they should have read a little more...or maybe they were so anxious to get behind your back and do something that you would normally forbid that they neglected any facts given on this website....they should, just as you should, check the facts that are given before you, or they, jump the gun before the bullet has hit them....

Jake0steve
07-27-2005, 11:06 PM
And..why were they with someone who would dump them out of the van?

RedRainDrop
07-29-2005, 04:06 PM
Lol, they deserved it, fucking morons should know what they are doing! most i've taken at once is 810mg, and i was so fucked... i can't imagine taking anymore than 800!!! i mean 1500mg of DXM plus all that other lethal shit in triple c's, they were asking for it.

jadeius
07-29-2005, 10:34 PM
TOTALLY learned a lesson...don't care how parental and protective you are...you gotta admit the little dumbasses learned a HARD lesson...

Takingsunday21
08-03-2005, 04:37 PM
What does Benedryl do?

chillstoner420
08-10-2005, 03:18 AM
yea, when i was on benadryl, i kept thinking i was using my laptop, when i dont have one....and i was eating taco bell and all this other shit. it was pretty crazy

Not Enough Herb
08-10-2005, 05:26 AM
sorry lady but ur son is a dumbass, as well as is his friend

the reason the person dumped them out of the van b/c he probly didnt want to deal with 2 retards tripping the fuck out, i know i wouldnt so serves them right

todays lesson: moderation

anyways

X DOES NOT DO BRAIN DAMAGE

it shaves of the end of the seretonin (sp?) receptors, so they get smaller which means less seretonin is produced then normal which means ur not going to be as emotional as u were before u took the pills.

thats all u have to worry about, unless there is sumthing else in the pill or ur brain doesnt contain the chemical to break down x...then ur fucked

o and i must say i enjoy a good airless, suffocating jerk now and again, really gets the juices going

later

beachguy in thongs
08-16-2005, 07:19 AM
X DOES NOT DO BRAIN DAMAGE

it shaves of the end of the seretonin (sp?) receptors, so they get smaller which means less seretonin is produced then normal which means ur not going to be as emotional as u were before u took the pills.

Sounds like damage to the brain is being done.

WalkaWalka
08-20-2005, 07:51 AM
about benadryl how do i get my idle hands on it and how do i ingrest it

Not Enough Herb
08-21-2005, 06:14 AM
Sounds like damage to the brain is being done.

sounds like you should shut up

its not really brain damage if u think about...your still the same person and can function the same.

just less emotional

but what drug doesnt damage your brain?

were all gonna die one day so im gonna pop as many of those sweet ass pills as i can

later

ADaisyChain
08-21-2005, 06:27 AM
sounds like you should shut up

HAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaadasfdsfaaaaa

What you described is definately brain damage though man.

But, that was a badass comeback. Makes you look like a right proppa tough mother-fucker.

XxAcidStudio
08-21-2005, 10:48 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaadasfdsfaaaaa

What you described is definately brain damage though man.

But, that was a badass comeback. Makes you look like a right proppa tough mother-fucker.
TRU TRU that comeback was pure GANGSTAR.
And by the way, seritonin (sp?) receptors in the brain stop working as well. Seritonin keeps your level of HAPPINESS for lack of a better word. If your brain doesnt process it right or you dont produce enough, you get depressed. It doesnt really have anything to do with being less or more emotional as a whole. Check out those TV commercials with the depressed white balls, they explain seritonin reception and issues with imbalance.
THAT IS ALL GANGSTAR!
oh...
and you a true playa
**slaps ADCs hand**
*COUGH*DISMISSED*COUGH*

Not Enough Herb
08-22-2005, 03:10 AM
lets just say that e is a good drug and wont mess u up to bad if used in moderation

im soooo high on dxm

later

mseerob
08-22-2005, 03:11 AM
All drugs are bad for you period. I even quit smoking weed cold turkey... now Im going through without symptoms.

Not Enough Herb
08-22-2005, 03:43 AM
^lmao cuz ur a bitch

suck it up u wuss

marijuana isnt even a hard drug

u can complain if u do a drug like coke or herion

later

Nullific
08-22-2005, 03:54 AM
Ecstasy is so safe it's not even funny.

Not Enough Herb
08-22-2005, 04:18 AM
^very tru

also an incredible drug

later

WalkaWalka
08-26-2005, 04:13 AM
ok mafaca THC does not fuckan have with drawl symptoms

Mogizzle
08-29-2005, 05:53 AM
You should edit the parts out where you say mushrooms grow on shit.. Yeah some do.. but not where I live we just go down to a few places like some lil fields some schools and places with alot of moist and cold bark (usually around 1-6am). You makin it sound like all people eat them from cow shit.

HighOnJen
09-02-2005, 02:39 AM
I bought a bottle of Robitussin Cough Gels today and on the package it says, "Non Narcotic formula"...is there a formula with narcotics??

ADaisyChain
09-04-2005, 09:53 PM
I bought a bottle of Robitussin Cough Gels today and on the package it says, "Non Narcotic formula"...is there a formula with narcotics??

It's them trying to trick you out of eating them all at once. It doesn't mean anything. I've eaten em on many occasion.

Firebrand
09-06-2005, 09:25 AM
only dam withdrawl sympton there is for weed is that sober life feels boring...

ADaisyChain
09-06-2005, 10:28 AM
only dam withdrawl sympton there is for weed is that sober life feels boring...

Sober life doesn't FEEL boring, sober life IS boring. Pessimisn can get you anywhere dearie.

Firebrand
09-06-2005, 10:32 AM
lol thats true...fuck sober life :D

beachguy in thongs
09-07-2005, 07:10 AM
sounds like you should shut up/later

Hah, that's the most immature response I could've imagined!

acidtrip
09-11-2005, 06:32 PM
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WEBSITE. I'M LEARNING SOME OF THIS STUFF THE HARD WAY. SUNDAY NIGHT MY SON AND A FRIEND WERE FOUND LAYING IN THE STREET UNCONSIOUS. HE'S NOW IN THE HOSPITAL IN THE CORINARY CARE UNIT BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT GET HIS HEART RATE DOWN. THEY BOTH TOOK OVER 50 TRIPLE C's AND SOMEONE DUMPED THEM OUT OF THEIR VAN AND DROVE AWAY. HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF PROMOTING THE USE OF THIS CRAP?

I don't mean to be offensive or anything but serves the stupid fuckers right. It's common sense, always research shit before you take it, that way you know what your gonna get,etc.

dark0ne
09-12-2005, 03:38 AM
no shit! any thing is bad for you in mass quantitys, who brought them to the store? who gave them the money? what moron told them to take 50! nice values you're teaching the boy. i would never ever 1. go on a trip ride with people who might throw me out of the van. 2. TAKE 50 OF ANYTHING! remember that drug talk your saposed to have with the kids...... HELLO!? don't blam strangers for YOU'RE mistakes. thank you have a nice day :)

slipknotpsycho
09-17-2005, 12:32 PM
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WEBSITE. I'M LEARNING SOME OF THIS STUFF THE HARD WAY. SUNDAY NIGHT MY SON AND A FRIEND WERE FOUND LAYING IN THE STREET UNCONSIOUS. HE'S NOW IN THE HOSPITAL IN THE CORINARY CARE UNIT BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT GET HIS HEART RATE DOWN. THEY BOTH TOOK OVER 50 TRIPLE C's AND SOMEONE DUMPED THEM OUT OF THEIR VAN AND DROVE AWAY. HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF PROMOTING THE USE OF THIS CRAP?
first of all i didn't take the time to read all three pages of this (just the entire first post) the OP doesn't promote it and neither do i. i shall speak from experience, seeing as how i was addicted to these retched little pills for over 2 months and it was an everyday thing starting with 1/2 a box (8) and ending at 2 full boxes (32 pills, everyday for atleast the last 2 weeks) these pills are like a plauge on your mind, i've done dxm by it's self, and there's just something about the cpm that changes everything anyone knows about dxm tripping. it draws you in, you can't stop tripping on them no matter how hard you try. if you do, you go insane, you scratch your skin open, you pull your hair, you bite your fingers (NOT FINGERNAILS) til they bleed. it takes something very major (and not intervention crap, usually all that does is make the person want to do it even more) to swtich this track. when on these, you know the meaning of life, you talk to creatures even people on acid couldn't dream up and they tell you EVERYTHING there is to know. time stops completely (1 second can feel like a week, while a week can feel like a second) and you become a rocket scientist, even now thinking back on those days i want so bad just to do it one more time, but alas i know there will never be one more time, because after that another and another and another just 1000000000000000 1 more times or until my body gives out and can't take it anymore so i quit. i read stories online of how it screwed people's lives for the rest of their life, and i know what i read was true, becasue no one could speak of such things happening unless they had experienced it. About your son (if what you say is true) he is truley stuck in a downward spiral, and until he makes the choice to change (which usually doesn't happen til they hit rock bottom) it will eventually harm him irreperiably. i suggest actually talking to him, not yelling at him, not telling him not to do it anymore. inform him! find stories online of what happened to people, let him see for himself where these can take you. my rock bottom: i had taken 32, and chugged 5 smirnoffs after it (meaning i popped out all 32 pills into my hand, put them all in my mouth at once and swallowed them with a whole beer and immediately chased it within five minutes with four other beers, i then drank the other 7 out of the 12 pack within a couple of hours) the last thing i remember is chatting to two people on AOL, next thing i know i jerked really hard (i had a black out of where i didin't know wtf had happened i had just simply skipped 4 hours of time) and my heart was beating very slowly at first i could feel it, i felt light headed, there was puke fucking everywhere and there i was, i looked in the mirror and i was fucking ghost white. i have no evidence of it but i am almost sure i actually died that night (and if you had experienced what i had you'd think the same thing) and by some miracle i came back to life. i had never had a black out on any drug, and definately not these...while my memory was not all there, i could still account for what i was doing at atleast 30 minute intervals. and btw, according to the time stamp on the instant messages that were open and the idle message (keep in mind the idle message goes away whenever you move the mouse and i used to keep the mouse pad on my lap with a cardboard thing under it) i hadn't talked in 4 hours and hadn't moved in just over 3.5. so this is what happens atleast to me when i get on these. i've read countless other experiences equal or greater to what i've experienced and oso i decided to quit. like i said. i suggest you talk to your son, and get him to inform himself, and learn on his own what can happen before it's too late. and if he seems like he's tripping even weeks after he's says he quit (if he does decide to) more than likely he still hasn't regained all his wits, as even 6 months or more after i got off them i coudln't keep a train of thought, i would sweat like crazy (which would happen when i'd trip on them) i would be disorientated and i'd completely forget i was even talking at some points...all lik ei was still tripping but i'd been clean for months off them. he needs support, not force.

haha
09-19-2005, 01:46 AM
^lmao cuz ur a bitch

suck it up u wuss

marijuana isnt even a hard drug

u can complain if u do a drug like coke or herion

later

haha, listen to your stupid ass. If someone doesn't want to do drugs, that makes them a bitch? You're more of a bitch if you have to be dependent on drugs just to be happy.

death of sXe
10-11-2005, 12:53 AM
Actually, if they dont want to do drugs they are bitches.

wutang123456
10-19-2005, 01:03 AM
shut the fuck up, its fine to not do drugs, its bitch to tell on someone for doing drugs

ADaisyChain
11-02-2005, 01:50 AM
yeah, drugs r pretty cool.

heavymetal101
11-05-2005, 04:14 AM
Ecstasy CAN hurt you. Well not E as a whole but some of the chemicals in there are really bad for you. Not bad enough where you do it a couple of times and you die or nothing, but if you do it for a really long time period or something yes it can hurt you.

E also eats away at your serotonin. The best way to explain this is like this: Every time you trip, when you come down your a little bit sadder than you were before. And this is because that whenever you are on E you use ALOT of the serotonin in your brain all it once. Your brain isn't meant for this to happen. therefore it will never be able to catch up to the sane amount as before.

heavymetal101
11-05-2005, 04:15 AM
But i say get as fucked up as you possibly can!! you wont always be in the health conditions you are now, so while you can DO IT!!


Drugs are great and everyone should expierence them!!

Not Enough Herb
11-05-2005, 05:48 AM
im not saying not doing drugs makes u a bitch, i personally don't care what anyone does, its there own choice.

im saying complaining makes u a bitch

if u cant handle them dont do them

later

WalkaWalka
11-11-2005, 01:42 AM
how bout a post on dramamine cuase i would like to know

sugarmagnolia
11-15-2005, 01:07 AM
sounds like you should shut up

its not really brain damage if u think about...your still the same person and can function the same.

just less emotional

later
well do u trip on X, cause u seem to be acting like a bitch, so I suppose your emotions are still working today.

Nullific
11-15-2005, 09:22 PM
Serotonin levels return to normal with time. I think post-roll depression is some-what psychosomatic. Ecstasy makes people feel so good they figure they have to feel depressed when they come down.

What do you want to know about dramamine? It is an over the counter motion sickness/insomnia remedy which acts as a deleriant at several times the recommended dose.

TheOtherBrute
11-15-2005, 11:50 PM
What eaxctly is serotonin anyways? And what does it do?

sugarmagnolia
11-16-2005, 11:24 PM
i've heard of people pissing all over people's rooms on dramamine. don't host a dramamine tripper.

haha
12-02-2005, 10:24 PM
What eaxctly is serotonin anyways? And what does it do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin

"Serotonin is believed to play an important part of the biochemistry of depression, migraine, bipolar disorder and anxiety. It is also believed to be influential on sexuality and appetite."

Klae
12-13-2005, 04:18 AM
I love dramamine....i wish i knew enoug about it to give a truely informative post. You see "real" hallucinations...like talking to people for hours that arent there. you feel like you have a big weight on you and everything is in slow motion. when you move fast you get a numb/rushy feeling....its really hard to talk and your memory is shit. trying to talk to someone is almost impossible, because theres times when you forget what you're sayin mid-word and shit like that......its great fun sometimes, but most people dont really take to it much. sometimes it can make you sick, but thats at bigger doses. first time is usually 12 30mg pills(or a travel-pack of dramamine) the actual chemical name is Dimenhydrinate....im not sure how it works...you would have to ask the wonderful mr erowid on that one.....but i tried.

EverydayJunglist
12-17-2005, 07:48 PM
wheres all the trippers at??

rastabill89
12-18-2005, 06:07 PM
holy shit dude you havent been on since july where the hell did you come from?
LOL welcome back dude!

Nullific
12-18-2005, 06:59 PM
EverydayJunglist?
Sounds vaguely familiar.

robert42
12-27-2005, 03:24 PM
wheres all the trippers at??
long time

tinkerbell
12-29-2005, 07:46 AM
Ecstasy CAN hurt you. Well not E as a whole but some of the chemicals in there are really bad for you. Not bad enough where you do it a couple of times and you die or nothing, but if you do it for a really long time period or something yes it can hurt you.

E also eats away at your serotonin. The best way to explain this is like this: Every time you trip, when you come down your a little bit sadder than you were before. And this is because that whenever you are on E you use ALOT of the serotonin in your brain all it once. Your brain isn't meant for this to happen. therefore it will never be able to catch up to the sane amount as before.

I've done E more times than I can count over many years, and I'm not screwed in the head. Like with most drugs, its about knowing how to use them safely and properly as well as learning the fine art of moderation :eek:. I didn't do it constantly, more like once or twice a month, but its not as bad as some sources make it out to be. I've had some cut with speed, some cut with mescaline (now THAT is heaven in a pill!) some cut with heroin and so forth. I've rolled on half a pill, I've rolled on 4 pills. The 4 pills were mescaline based (pink @'s I believe) and the worst problem I had was nausea that subsided in a short while. But those were some strong fuckers and I wouldn't suggest anyone who has not built a tolerance to start off there. You may be unpleasantly surprised and entirely unecessarily so.

As for the Serotonin depletion... regular users should take 5HTP, which is a freely available supplement in any pharmacy or health food store. It turns into 5HT in the body which is essentially Serotonin. The daily maxium dosage should be taken after an E comedown to allieviate the depression that often follows. If you can stomach food, turkey and milk will help too as the tryptophan in both is turned into 5HTP and then 5HT in the body anyway. Continue taking the supplement as directed for about three days after a roll.

5HTP has an even better use for rollers... taken a couple hours before a roll, it'll enhance the MDMA because the MDMA now has even more Serotonin to explode in your head, making you go even deeper into those fits of ecstacy. :dance: But don't expect TOO much from it, it won't make you feel like you've taken two tabs when you've only taken one. Its simply an enhancer.

It's not that your brain will never catch up to their normal levels, because it certainly will, its just that it takes a few days. And the constant up and down of the levels of neurotransmitters that regular users create can evolve into something more permanant than a sucky comedown that lasts a day or two. Serotonin Syndrome (which the proper name for the long-term reaction you and I have described) can result from excess use of E, but I've personally not known anyone with that problem except perhaps in people with serotonin imbalances to begin with as in depression or bipolar, for example. If you think you're developing Serotonin Syndrome, you're probably just using too damn much, or you're too sensitive and need to put the shit down and find something a little easier on the brain.

For those of you who hate the comedown and don't mind hard drugs, meth or coke will immediately end a roll and shoot you straight up, no comedown or anything. I won't say I suggest it (though I used to do it during my weekend long binges) it's just an FYI. Because eventually, you'll HAVE to comedown from one drug or another.

Peace Out :rasta:

Euphoric
01-28-2006, 05:40 AM
EverydayJunglist?
Sounds vaguely familiar.

its a dieselboy song
also theres a member with that name.
now u know...now u know.

karmaxul
02-28-2006, 12:23 AM
Be carefull of baby hawaiian woodrose seeds they lace them with poison to deter people from taking them. They have lsa like morning glory seeds but 8 bhw = 300 morning glories. I hear you need to eat 8 bhws to trip so I ordered like 50. I dont trip easily. I ate 28 not knowing that some are laced with poison. It was the sickest I have ever been. I would dry heave after my stomach was empty for like 16 hours. I thought I was going to die. Any way if it does happen to you drink a 16 ounce glass of water and do the twist till you puke. about a min. then do it a couple more times to wash the poison off the lining of your stomach. It may save your life if you or someone you know is panic prone. Works great for peyote to, for those of us who just cant seem to trip no matter how many we eat. O if you like peyote but not the taste the secert is grind it up and mix it with grapefruit juice. Cant even taste it.
One love
c

sirkills
03-28-2006, 12:53 AM
update on the whole tripping on Benadryl can someone explain how much to take and if there are different kinds ......i got some in my cabinet and well FREE TRIP if i know how it is done so please reply thanks ya'll

Silven
03-29-2006, 04:21 PM
Morning Glory / Hawaiian Rosewood

Both of these seeds contain what is called LSA (Lysergic Acid Amide?). Anyway, the effects are similar to LSD but are usually significantly weaker than a full on acid trip.

When buying, I felt it was important to mention, check with the vendor to see if fungicides or pesticides had been used on their seeds. You can easily obtain this information if you're ordering over the internet, but if you ask in a grocery store it might seem a bit more suspicious.. you're creative though, figure out a way.. perhaps even read the package.

I don't really recommend eating the seeds.. I'd rather see you all do extractions and avoid all the sick shit that causes the major nausea..

SO if you are still planning on doing some LSA you will probably want the rosewood seeds since it only takes around 8 - 10 of them.. then you will want to hit www.erowid.org and then do a search for LSA extraction. There you'll find all the guides and information you need to do a successful extraction.

I'd really recommend though just eating some shrooms if you're that desperate to trip.. but if you're like me, you have to try once.. :thumbsup:

Love to the psychonaughts!
- Silven :dance:

hempnbass
04-08-2006, 06:29 AM
Ecstacy is an amazing substance, and that's bullshit about it permanently depleting seratonin in your brain. People say that coming down is like the most depressing feeling ever, but when it happens to me, I'm like a kid getting off a roller coaster I've ridden for hours; kind of a "Awww, man, that kicked ass! Is it over now? Awww..." but I'm still all happy and tired. The next day I'm just content and lathargic.

Th3 sand m4n
06-01-2006, 01:46 AM
All i have to say about E is my best friend died his fourth time taking it after poping 3 and a half pills. while i have done many drugs, out of his respect i have never touched E. :( rip man

timmyrecordz
06-01-2006, 03:55 PM
lmao at permatripper

candy oasis
06-03-2006, 01:54 AM
couple additions.

1) DO NOT mix dxm and ecstacy. this will cause seratonim syndrom (pardon anything i'lve spelt wrong) because they both have different effects on the chemical in your brain called seratonin. this is very dangerous and it landed a good friend of mind in the hospital, if she hadn't been fopund soon enough she would have died.

2) dxm is also dangerous to mix with anti-depressents for the same reason. my other friend did this she got quite sick nothing too bad happend cause she didnt take very much dxm.

3) shroums can be dangerous if you take too much. they have active poisones this is what causes you to hallucinate psybocilin and DMT, and too much can make you quite sick or worse

4) also (shroums) when taken by a person who is taking anti-depressent the dose will be twice as strong ie. if you take 2 grams it will have the same effect as taking 4 for someone else so be careful.

5) if you are allergic to the anti-biotic pennisulin you should also be very careful about taking shroums. they are both fungus which are similar in chemical structure. I'm allergic to pennisulin the first time i took two full grams and retched for nearly my entire trip. times after that i'lve felt as if someone were choking me, allergic reaction not too harmful but if i had taken too much i could have stopped breathing (anaflaxis), i normally take about a gram and it is alot more potent in me so get the same out of my trip as someone taking like maybe 2 and a half or 3.

*shroums in general are fairly harmless yes but still be careful because they can be dangerous, never attempt to smoke shroums it'll kill you.

candy oasis
06-03-2006, 02:04 AM
seratonin is chemical in brain which creates endorphins. it makes you happy. alot of e use can deplete your seratonin. it depends on hoe much u use and how often. alot of times e isn't always e as well. if you do a hell of alot it cvan also permanently danmage your seratonin receptors meaning your brain will no longer be capable of storing it (ie. not releasing ti immediately) this is very rare however so dont worry about it too much. what e forces your brain to do is release a whole bunch of seratonin at once (maybe all depending on how much you take and how much seratonin you have, you will have less if you use e very often) If you don't do e too often, you'll be fine. ialso recommend taking a whole bunch of vitamin c the day after as much as you can take. cause that will up your seratonin sometimes to even higher levels than when before you took the e therefor preventing a bad come down. come downs can last a long time if it puts you in a depressed state cause when your mind becomes depressed it tries to not release very much seratonin at all because it thinks it doesn't have enough. this can tak a long time before it starts to function normally again. your body doesn't usually become like this untill after you start using very regularily. once a month is perfect your body has enough time to recover and you will have no dangerous complicatioins but you may not want to wait that long. in this case i recommend you stick to a rule of absolutely no more than once a week.

candy oasis
06-03-2006, 02:06 AM
dramine don't take too much of that shit it can give you a really fucked up trio, speaking from the experience of many friends and advisors. but search on erowid, that's one of the best places to go for drug info. it'll give you recommended dosages

candy oasis
06-03-2006, 02:17 AM
another way you can take dxm is by putting a bunch of sucrets in boiling water like a tea and then after it dissolves let it settle you can pour out the top which is just sugar the dxm is a white powder you will very easily beable to see that will settle to the bottom so you can our out most of the top and then drink the rest of it (a couple gulps) i recommend puring out the top cause you may not enjoy drinking the whole thing because of the taste also if your not a sugar person and have an empty stomach or something all that sugar may make you feel nausious