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Dick Justice
06-22-2005, 12:43 AM
I know you can hook down lots of diphenhydramine in order to get a Datura-style hallucination experience, but that's not what I'm looking for. I wanna know how many I should take just to get "heavier" than usual, without really tripping. I'm not looking for a buzz, I've just been working on lucid dreaming and a little astral projection stuff (since I accidentally did it to myself fairly recently and got so agitated about it that I did some research).

So yeah, I have a bunch of pills with only diphenhydramine, 25mg each. Erowid doesn't seem to be online now (??) so I figure I ought to ask here.

Sentinel
06-22-2005, 01:24 AM
i would take gravol instead, as it is pure diminehydrinate(dramamine) 12 pills to trip usually so id go with 6?

andruejaysin
06-22-2005, 01:26 AM
Off subject a little, but erowid or lycaeuum or bravo or.....am I being paranoid?????????

andruejaysin
06-22-2005, 02:04 AM
OK, they're back, I'm paranoid!

Dick Justice
06-22-2005, 02:07 AM
God damn feddies! You just know they're doing that for the sole purpose of messing with us.

Dick Justice
06-22-2005, 02:17 AM
Well in case anybody else is interested in using these things as a dream aid instead of a full-on trip, I have decided that in accordance with the dosage thing:


Oral Diphenhydramine Dosages
(Recreational)
Threshold -- 10mg
Light -- 25-150 mg
Common -- 150-300 mg
Strong -- 250-500 mg
Heavy -- 400-700
LD50 (Lethal Dose*) -- 500 mg/kg in rats


...and based on this (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=5808) experience report, I'm gonna take eight pills. I'm gonna be in my room and I'm gonna stay up for two hours after I take them, but when I start to feel the trippy effects I'm gonna let myself doze off and hope they translate into dreamspace.

Erowid ho!

andruejaysin
06-22-2005, 02:39 AM
Rats are some tough motherfuckers, don't get the idea you can do that much.

Sentinel
06-22-2005, 03:41 AM
yah i got jumped by a couple rats once.. it wasnt pretty. They stomp your ass

keinmehrkreig
06-22-2005, 06:26 AM
wahoo for astral projection and lucid dreaming.

btw, drugs don't really help with accomplishing those very well.. At least not from my expierence.

general
06-22-2005, 08:56 AM
well if you can get some trazodone(anti depressent) it can give you some crazy dreams plus it makes you sleepy. But i love benadryl although it never gave me weird dreams

Sentinel
06-22-2005, 02:26 PM
if you want some interesting dreams, take a few shots of absinthe before bed. I did it before with friends and none of use really got messed up or anything but the one thing we all had in common was we had weird realistic dreams.