Classic Bait And Switch Enacted As Downing Street Memos Called Possible Hoax

[pisshead]

Classic Bait And Switch Enacted As Downing Street Memos Called Possible Hoax

Prison Planet | June 20 2005 (http://prisonplanet.com/index.html)

Article: Are Downing Street memos authentic or elaborate hoax?
Blogs question credibility of reporter who typed copies, destroyed originals (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44876)

This has all the hallmarks of a classic sting operation.

The Murdoch papers release the Downing Street Memo story worldwide. Despite the fact that the British government have already admitted that the information in the documents is true (and many more which essentially say the same thing were later released), this one document was photocopied, allowing the mainstream to raise questions about its authenticity and kill the story.

Forget the fact that Bush told his own biographer that he wanted to invade Iraq and be a war president back in 1999, forget the 1998 and 2000 PNAC documents which called for removing Hussein as a means of getting a foothold in the Middle East, this one memo was a photocopy! That means Bush never planned to invade Iraq all along and never lied about WMD to justify it! He was just an unfortunate victim of 'misguided' intelligence.

Now the intense activist pressure to get the mainstream media to cover the Downing Street Memos is thrown back in their face and alternative research is discredited while the establishment gets another pat on the back.

It's amazing how they keep employing the same tactic and people keep falling for it.

The Pentagon admits multiple cases of abusing the Koran but in this one instance Newsweek's source may have been wrong when he said they flushed it down the toilet, when they only threw it in the toilet and urinated on it. This means that any allegations of Koran abuse are null and void. This means that Guantanamo Bay really is a nice place to stay! A holiday home according to Rush Limbaugh.

The Bush AWOL story was known and admitted for years but these CBS documents relating to one specific time period of Bush's military service may be forgeries, that means the whole story collapses and Bush never went AWOL!

What's next? An investigation by the History Channel concludes that one of thousands of pieces of evidence Galileo used to prove the world was round is slightly inaccurate. THEREFORE ANY FURTHER CLAIMS AS TO THE WORLD BEING ROUND ARE PURE CONSPIRACY THEORY!

[nicholasstanko]

How true. I just got off an arguement with a mod. trying to say he doesnt listen to "average joe" opinions and would rather be using facts. There are HUNDREDS of facts to contradict the official report but its not on CNN so its hearsay.

[pisshead]

i know...david ray griffin just published another book about 9/11...he's on alex jones' show now...talking about the holes in the official story and the commission report, and how building 7 is obviously a controlled demolition...

taking tons of calls...

check out the replay tonight if you get a chance...

[nicholasstanko]

Dont worry piss. I listen to the Alex Jones show everyday thanks to your referral. It

was a great show and makes too much sense.

[pisshead]

check out the power hour too...they have a good show as well. www.thepowerhour.com (http://www.thepowerhour.com/). that's every morning from 7am to 10am central time i think...i haven't listened in about a year because of my schedule, but i would if i could.

and also jack mclamb's show. he runs the site www.police-and-military-against-the-new-world-order.com (http://www.police-and-military-against-the-new-world-order.com/). you can probably hear it online at that site. he's on fm here.

[amsterdam]

oh,how the story changes.lol.

you guys are sad.another lefty gets busted lying through his teeth making up stories and you guys sprint to change the story a little to make it fit your agenda.you should hang out with jason blair or get a job at the times.

busted again.lol.

[amsterdam]

i knew pissy would create another conspiracy to justify their bogus downing street conspiracy.blind leading the blind.

you and all the news should check your sources before you try to present fake memos to the public with access to the internet.the stories fall quicker than kerry's campaign and only make you look silly.maybe you will learn a lesson this time.(hopefully not)

[amsterdam]

lets see the real memo and not a copy that his secretary typed up.i smell bacon.

[nicholasstanko]

amsterdam i'd argue with you but...man cmon dude. our world as we know it is crumbling all around us. you honestly want to sit there and spend time debunking theories instead of working to see the full extent of its legitimacy?

[Torog]

oh,how the story changes.lol.

you guys are sad.another lefty gets busted lying through his teeth making up stories and you guys sprint to change the story a little to make it fit your agenda.you should hang out with jason blair or get a job at the times.

busted again.lol.
Howdy amsterdam,

You hit the nail on the head,I was just telling someone the other day,over at Marihemp,that the Downing St. memos were more than likely from forces counter to Bush and Blair. Just like the Gitmo issue,it all plays into the hands of terrorists,and helps their cause..one goal of which,is to slit the throats of all of their infidel allies,such as those who oppose the war in Iraq and the war on terrorists..silly liberals..don't they understand..that Darfur(world-wide islamic state) is not meant for them..unless they convert to Islam,even then..they will just be dhimini's(infidels and conquerored peoples,who are forced to convert to islam,but are always considered second-class citizens),paying a dhimini tax,in order to stay alive.

Have a good one !

[XTC]

DOWNING STREET DELUSIONS....The wingnuts are getting desperate. Captain's Quarters, in a nostalgic attempt to recreate the glories of Rathergate, suggests that the Downing Street Memos aren't real. Why? Because Michael Smith, the reporter who got hold of them, had them retyped to protect his source and then returned the originals. Jonah Goldberg feverishly calls CQ's revelations a "must read."

Now, unlike the Killian memos that were at the center of Rathergate, there are quite a few principals in this case who either wrote or received these memos and therefore have absolute knowledge of whether or not they're genuine. The first memo, for example, was written by Matthew Rycroft and distributed at the time to David Manning, Geoff Hoon, Jack Straw, Peter Goldsmith, Richard Wilson, John Scarlett, Francis Richards, Richard Dearlove, Jonathan Powell, Sally Morgan, and Alastair Campbell. So far, not a single one of these people has claimed they're fake.

In fact, just the opposite. Here's Tony Blair himself on May 1, the day the first memo was published:

In a Sunday morning television interview, Mr. Blair did not deny that the meeting took place in July 2002, but he recalled that "subsequent to that meeting, we went the United Nations route, " seeking a resolution in November 2002, calling on the Iraqi government to disarm.

Here's Knight Ridder on May 5:

A former senior U.S. official called it "an absolutely accurate description of what transpired" during the senior British intelligence officer's visit to Washington. He spoke on condition of anonymity.

Here's the Washington Post on June 12:

Excerpts were made available to The Washington Post, and the material was confirmed as authentic by British sources who sought anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the matter.

Give it up, guys. They're real.


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_06/006537.php

[Torog]

Howdy XTC,

Even if they are real..what does it matter ? The full extent of what happened at Pearl Harbor,was not revealed until the end of the war,but 'intelligence and foreign policy',were fixed around the situation,in order to git Americans to declare war.

Stabilizing the middle-east and democratizing it,is good for all countries who rely on arab oil,also,saddam was an avowed enemy of the US and Israel,and he had the money from oil,to fund any wmd program,that he chose...or terrorist organization.

Have a good one...

[pisshead]

and we now know that our government had complete prior knowledge in pearl harbor, and did everything possible to allow the attack to happen...

just like the LBJ tapes that were released that showed nothing happened at gulf of tonkin, they just needed an excuse for another protracted war.

they're taking control of the oil, not to let more out so prices go down, but to hoard it, tell us there's not enough, and jack the prices up, which is what's happening.

this is a very fascist war.

[XTC]

WWII to me was a just war. The Iraqi war is not. Dowing Street clearly states that, Bush want against advisors that we're telling him that Saddam did not have WMDs. That was one of Bush's strong points for going to war, yet he lied to the American public. Men and Women are dieing under false pretenses. Iraq was not a threat to anyone but Iraq.

[pisshead]

no, remember, after saying it was all about WMD's which we all saw night after night...the march to war as bush calls it...the catapulting propaganda that he says he likes to use...

after saying it was all about WMD, they said they never said it was about that...you need to learn to double think as well as torog, XTC. don't have a memory, just listen to what the rulers say today, not yesterday or a week ago or 10 years ago or 30 years ago.

exactly, iraq was nothing but a threat to iraq, and it was up to the iraqis in the first place to oust the dictator WE gave them, saddam, the big hero in the 80's just like bin laden...oops, i can't remember that.

goldstein hates our freedom.

[Torog]

Howdy pisshead,

You claim that Iraq was never a threat to anyone but Iraq..but that would be wrong..have you forgotten the invasion of Kuwait ? How about the scuds landing in Israel ? Have you also forgotten all of saddam's vows to destroy America ? His vows to destroy Israel ?

Are you going to say next-that the terrorists are only a danger to themselves ?

Btw,saddam came to power,by his own hand,we only asisted him,because we thought that Iran,was the bigger threat.

Have a good one....

[pisshead]

no, i haven't forgotten...have you forgotten that april glaspie, ambassador to Iraq, got up in front of congress and said that we wouldn't interfere with saddam if he were to invade kuwait...he could go ahead and do it, and we wouldn't stop him because it wasn't our business...saddam was the good guy! remember that...bin laden was the good guy, right? fighting the evil soviet occupiers! remember that?

do you really believe our government has installed brutal dictatorships around the world, and continues to support them, because they are stupid and are naive and don't know what theyr'e doing?

don't worry, you're going to get your wish of never ending war and killing...an entire generation of muslims need to die, right? then you can take the microchip in your hand and become a third world slave as the republic is systematically dismantled by those fascists profiting from the war.

well guess what? the military industrial complex is turning America into a third world dictatorship with our uncontitutional global government treaties as we kiss our sovereignty goodbye. do you care about that? they're the ones who pull off the big terrorist attacks so they can turn us into a dictatorship...9/11 wasn't done by 19 freedom hating terrorists.

i'm sorry, i don't care what's happening in iraq or iran or isreal, if they all want to blow themselves up...good, let them...why don't you care what's happening to your country here at home? freedom isn't free, right? killing hundreds of thousands of people halfway around the world doesn't keep you free at home...

[Torog]

Howdy pisshead,

You declare:"i'm sorry, i don't care what's happening in iraq or iran or isreal, if they all want to blow themselves up...good, let them...why don't you care what's happening to your country here at home? freedom isn't free, right? killing hundreds of thousands of people halfway around the world doesn't keep you free at home..."

I do care about American sovereignity and our freedoms here,but I also care for the freedom of others,as well. Fighting the terrorists over-seas,means that we ain't fightin them here..would rather that the front-lines be here ? If iran or Israel,blow themselves up-it will impact your life,so you best care,especially if iran's attack against Israel,prompts the rest of the arab countries to join in,Israel will use all their weapons in self-defense..the start of Armageddon..will begin.

Have a good one....

[pisshead]

the point is, we don't have terrorists here at home doing terrorist like things...other than those who year after year are elected into the white house and systematically dismantle the constitution.

the IMF and world bank and UN and world court and world trade organization and world health organization and the fasciat/socialist national id card, biometric scanning, cameras everywhere watching everyone while tracking and taxing and monitoring system being set up in America are the threats...

our country is being destroyed, not by terrorists, by politicians working with corporations, many of whom are going to brought down in the process, but don't care and are greedy.

the country's been socialized, now the programs will be phased out, the wealth transferred to corporations who rule over us, outside of the constitution...the coup is happening before your very eyes and you don't care.

you ignored much of what i said...you obviously don't care what happens to your country because you're too set on wanting to kill hundreds of thousands of people, and you can't understand why they hate you.

don't worry, the military industrial complex is going to nuke a city or two, they're going to release biological weapons and blame it on the muslims or whatever enemy they want to invade...then you'll support an all out killing all over the world, while America is totally broken up and under martial law, as we've been told will happen after another catastrophic attack, which we've been assured will happen...you'll worship the dictatorship here at home, totally believe it's for your own good...

you should read a biography on josef goebbels, you'd probably like it.