Panorama

[GHoSToKeR]

There's a TV show in the UK called Panorama that shows documentaries about all sorts of subjects and claims to be investigating the subject in an unbiased way, but tonight at 10 (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvp&id=169420886&cf=0&lineup=uk&channels=europe_bb1&chspid=166005010&chname=BBC+1&title=Panorama&normalized=Panorama&progutn=1119244500&.intl=uk) Panorama 'investigates' Cannabis and it's effects on teenagers. Cool, you might think, it's gonna say something good for a change, but think again. Considering the show is supposed to be unbiased the commercial for it is calling it "Panorama: What kids need to know" and goes on for a couple of minutes saying how it causes psychotic illness, and that's just the commercial! Over the last few weeks me and my mum have been having a lot of conversations about weed and she actually believes me, but I know she's gonna watch this show tonight and then she's always gonna believe all the bullshit this show says, and unfortunately, she won't be the only person in the UK to believe it. :( Bastards :(

[koshea]

lol, post whore

[GHoSToKeR]

hehe ;)

[thewooman]

i think i already saw it, i watched it with my dad, it fucked me off, if its same thing, it tlked about this kid who got high for the first time, and he freaked out cus he heard voices in his head, and he said it was a PERNIMENT affect, and that after the high he cud still hear voices, i was like wtf? either they paid him to say that BULLSHIT, or hes just a retard :p

[koshea]

yeah i member this commercial where tehre was this lady and she was alkin about her daughters autopsy like "blood sugar-normal....so and so - normal....the only thing in her system...one pill of exstacy.....worth it?"


needless to say i wet myself laughing..what did she get a pill laced with fucking sionide<<Sp?

[GHoSToKeR]

Here's the link.. what a load of shite.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/4082196.stm

[robert42]

i refuse to watch that crap :(

[Stedric]

Everyone smoke a joint just out of spite for that stupid show. :D :) :p

[Az.]

i watch shit like that and then get paranoid about me turning in to a complete veg....however i dont think i will smoke myself stupid (it might possibly be too late)....so i will watch it while smoking the spliff i have been wanting for soooo long....

OOOHHHHHH and it says we get too meet "some of these young people who have developed psychotic illnesses after heavy cannabis use"..cool

[Lily420]

Cannabis? Dont like it? GO FUCK YOSELF BIATCH!!!!!!!!! :D Dats what I say.

[Stedric]

fuck that show, but i really like what the history channel did with "hooked:illegal drugs and how they got that way" it does a 1 long show on each of these, weed, coke (and what is made from coke), opium (and the things made from it), and party drugs. very nicely done, gives the history of each one and tells what they do and why they are illegal... it tells the truth that weed is illegal for no reason! i saw part of it then went to the liberary and got the whole series. and i notices one thing thats really interesting... do you know the one drug in that list that was never used as a cure for alcoholism? marijuana, the one thing that would have worked.
How would marijuana cure alcoholism? Alcoholism is an addiction, and harder to boot than a heroin addiction. With the exception of ibogaine (which only helps by blocking opioid receptors in the brain) no drug can "cure" an addiction.

[GHoSToKeR]

Like I just said to DonnieDarko, this show is a load of shite. Right this second it's got the mother of some kid talking about how her son used to smoke himself retarded on the weed that HIS DAD USED TO BUY HIM WHEN HE WAS 14, and then he went mental and had to get locked up.... and how is that Cannabis' fault, exactly? Pricks.

[Az.]

i completly forgot about it and then saw your thread and thought "shit i missed it" but i caught the last 5 mins of it....it looked pretty lame

[Stedric]

Like I just said to DonnieDarko, this show is a load of shite. Right this second it's got the mother of some kid talking about how her son used to smoke himself retarded on the weed that HIS DAD USED TO BUY HIM WHEN HE WAS 14, and then he went mental and had to get locked up.... and how is that Cannabis' fault, exactly? Pricks.
Jeez GHoST, I thought that would be obvious. Its Cannabis' fault because if it wasn't, shitty parents who should have known better in the first place will have to take the responsibility. That just shouldn't happen.

[xNoa]

i dunno id say it was worth watching, they never actually said cannabis causes skitz etc cos they cant prove it, i think now though i dont want to smoke such strong stuff, when i grow ill definately go for a mellow-light smoking strain

[GHoSToKeR]

Wow.. you actually believed all that shit, dude?

[xNoa]

i didnt think there was anything to believe, it definately didnt put me off if thats what the aim of the program was (which it wasnt)
they said some people are more prone to getting illnesses, which i believe is true, a mums mate who works at a mental home was saying that EVERY patient had dealings with cannabis, fined with possesion etc.
its just about being careful, and dont tell me any of its bullshit cos ive seen it happen

[GHoSToKeR]

hey, I know there is alot of truth in some of their claims, but they were totally biased and didn't show the other side of the story. All they said was that using Cannabis frequently CAN cause psychosis, but they didn't say that it's much more common for people who smoke responsibly to NOT develop any of these symptoms.

[xNoa]

ah well :) time to load a bong with some sticky black moroccan and try fall asleep.. so hot

[GHoSToKeR]

yeah man, it's fucking roasting... Enjoy! :)

[Button Basher]

Hey ghost. I watched it earlier on BBC one, luckily my mum burst into my room to tell me it was on just as I was lighting my pipe out the window.

[daZenfmeister]

How would marijuana cure alcoholism? Alcoholism is an addiction, and harder to boot than a heroin addiction. With the exception of ibogaine (which only helps by blocking opioid receptors in the brain) no drug can "cure" an addiction.



Do some research on brain chemistry and salvia divinorum bro...

[Stedric]

it would have the best chance because it doesn't cause addiction itself, so if you were to smoke a joint instead of a beer it would be alot better than taken cocaine, and i'm not sayin it would work for everyone, but i do know atleast a few people it did work for. and not saying its the same but it helped me quit ciggs real easy.
I don't understand. People don't just switch around from addiction to addiction. You can't just pull a heroin addict off of the street, give them a few joints an expect that to solve the problem. Alcoholics are addicted to alcohol for numerous reasons, but they won't just magically switch to another drug that doesn't have the same effect.

Have yourself a good day.

[robert42]

fukin bastard program i watched it and got all paranoid, not nice at all them progs do more harm then good.

AND LET ME TELL U ALL OF THEM FUKIN KIDS WERE ACTORS.

THE WHOLE RAT HERION THING IS RUBBISH! - The rat dnt know the harm of herioin like ppl do, and to say the THC made the rat more addictied to herion is balllllshit.

These days u seethe cannabis leaf symbol everywhere, Phone fascias, t-shirts, phone logos in magaizines so these ppl thought lets do a program to put this to a end, which i doubt many ppl watched as i thought it was very pathetic, they show what they wanna show.

Was bob marley crazy?

Why not tell sucess stories?

Or how a old lady can get on with her life now she has pot to help with arthiritis.

Cos they dnt want u to hear that, It Simple.

Panorama is a goverment program, its aload of shite and that program chatted aload of even more steamining shite.

[BUZz UK]

How would marijuana cure alcoholism? Alcoholism is an addiction, and harder to boot than a heroin addiction. With the exception of ibogaine (which only helps by blocking opioid receptors in the brain) no drug can "cure" an addiction.
ever heard of NALTREXONE?

yeah, i couldn't sleep it was so hot...we're english, we can't handle this weather!!! the temp hit 34c when i was driving back from london yesterday!

and, yeah, the program was whack, i thought it was pretty inconclusive...

[Oli]

I liked the way they completly brushed over the medical uses of weed. Another victory for unbiased reporting.

[Oli]

Oh and I saw this link on another site. The idea that cannabis changes the structure of a developing brain has apparently been disproven at Harvard: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6516

[Az.]

nice one oli....thatll be somthing to show my rents later.

[Oli]

Thank the nice people over at uk420.com

[GoGo Ball]

I am coming 24 and have been smoking around 4 years,

I am in the clear,

it is all you sixteen year olds who smoke the fuck out of the bongs that will be the next generation 'nutters', know matter how much you deny it, it will happen and you will be carted off to get your weekly dose of 'electric shock' treatment.

Boy I'm glad I wasn't a waster at age sixteen.

[Kid Dynamite]

I am coming 24 and have been smoking around 4 years,

I am in the clear,

it is all you sixteen year olds who smoke the fuck out of the bongs that will be the next generation 'nutters', know matter how much you deny it, it will happen and you will be carted off to get your weekly dose of 'electric shock' treatment.

Boy I'm glad I wasn't a waster at age sixteen.

suck my dick.

[robert42]

^Couldnt of said it better.

[Az.]

I am coming 24 and have been smoking around 4 years,

I am in the clear,

it is all you sixteen year olds who smoke the fuck out of the bongs that will be the next generation 'nutters', know matter how much you deny it, it will happen and you will be carted off to get your weekly dose of 'electric shock' treatment.

Boy I'm glad I wasn't a waster at age sixteen.

i agree to a certain extent....and i believe it might just be true.

[GTC21]

I seen that program and what a pile of shit it was. They were saying how much stronger weed is these days than it was in the 60's - 70's, bollocks. Stronger strains are more available these days but there was still super strong weed years ago. It's like saying bananas weren't yellow in the 60's or something. If it did cause phsycotic illnesses then there would be an epidemic, how many people smoked weed in the 60's and 70's? There would be millions of schizophrenics or whatever running round the streets.

[GHoSToKeR]

Did somebody say that one addiction can't cure another? Ever hear of methadone? :)

[Stedric]

Did somebody say that one addiction can't cure another? Ever hear of methadone? :)
Take a look at what I wrote. Quote "Alcoholics are addicted to alcohol for numerous reasons, but they won't just magically switch to another drug that doesn't have the same effect."

Methadone is an opiate, just like heroin. The effects are similar if not almost exactly the same. Replacing heroin with methadone is like stopping a baby from drinking antifreeze by replacing it with drain cleaner.

I'm assuming you've been drunk as well as stoned. Its pretty obvious that weed and alcohol have very different effects (both long term and short). An addict is someone looking for a means to an end. They are addicted to the state of mind, not the drug itself (although the end result is the same). You can switch from heroin to methadone because they have similar effects, but you can't play paint by narcotics.