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SomeDude
06-19-2005, 06:41 AM
a thread in other psychotropics titled "duster" was locked with the mod giving this reason:

The substances used in compressed "air" dusters is physiologically inert. The "high" is caused by a sudden, acute anoxia due to oxygen displacement. Essentially, what you are experiencing is your brain beginning to die. It's not a drug, it's a suicide waiting to happen, and so we will not discuss it here.

This is closed.

The chemical in compressed air is diflouroethane, and it is most definately not physiologically inert. I couldn't care less about this particular thread, but it does concern me that a mod would lock a thread basd on their own ignorance. This thread is properly placed in the right forum, and on topic, while there is a thread about how to make crack in the cannabis recipes forum that remains open. Why?

Hydrizzle
06-19-2005, 07:14 AM
Because we are living in a police state where censorship is a part of daily life. O hold on, thats just cannabis.com

XTC
06-19-2005, 11:47 AM
Also because Huffing Aresol Cans is plain stupid?

Beeblebrox.420
06-19-2005, 03:08 PM
The chemical in compressed air is diflouroethane, and it is most definately not physiologically inert.
Wrong. Read the MSDS for difluoroethane (http://msds.ehs.cornell.edu/msds/msdsdod/a179/m89213.htm). There is no mention of direct CNS effects, which would be required to be listed in the MSDS if they were known. It does, however, mention the oxygen displacement effects:

Health Hazards Acute & Chronic: INHALATION OF HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF VAPOR IS HARMFUL & MAY CAUSE HEART IRREGULATITIES, UNCONSCIOUSNESS, DEATH. INTENTIONAL MISUSE OR DILIBERATE INHALATION MAY CAUSE DEATH W/O WARNING. VAPOR REDUCES OXYGEN AVAILABLE FOR BREATHING & IS HEAVIER THAN AIR. LIQUID CONTACT CAN CAUSE FROSTBITE.

I stand by my thread closing and the reasons therefor.

Euphoric
06-19-2005, 03:35 PM
i think its best to keep the bottom feeders of the drug culture locked anyway. **KUDOS TO BEEBLE** all u inhalant/crack junkies..i can beat up like 20 of em at a time with my superior weed muscles
although it doesnt seem to make sense why a thread on HOW TO FUCKING MAKE CRACK is perfectly acceptable :confused:

NowhereMan
06-19-2005, 04:06 PM
i think its best to keep the bottom feeders of the drug culture locked anyway. **KUDOS TO BEEBLE** all u inhalant/crack junkies..i can beat up like 20 of em at a time with my superior weed muscles
although it doesnt seem to make sense why a thread on HOW TO FUCKING MAKE CRACK is perfectly acceptable :confused:

well your average lil kid cant get crack,but he can sure pick up a can of duster off his parents desk,
see the difference?

Beeblebrox.420
06-19-2005, 04:08 PM
The crack thread is borderline. I'm going to let it live for now, though I wouldn't be too terribly upset if another mod closed it. I can't have all the fun, y'know. ;)

SomeDude
06-19-2005, 05:20 PM
i guess it depends on your definition of "phsiologically inert" and "drug." Just because something doesn't have direct cns effects doesn't mean it is not a drug(at least that was my understanding of the definition), and it doesn't mean it isn't physiologically inert. Anyway, I don't mean to challenge anyone's decision, I just thought it odd that this thread was closed when the crack one is obviously off topic, since the header on the recipes forum specifically says it is for cannabis related recipes.

robert42
06-19-2005, 05:45 PM
GOOD and well done to the mod who locked it.

Stedric
06-19-2005, 07:32 PM
I second that, I'll stick to my weed (and the occasional hallucinogen).

EverydayJunglist
06-20-2005, 03:10 AM
dangerous or not,it is a post in the proper forum and should not be locked.Thats my 2 cents,which mean jack fuckin shit,but oh fuckin well.Duster is some dumb shit tho,lol.

NowhereMan
06-20-2005, 02:12 PM
dangerous or not,it is a post in the proper forum and should not be locked.Thats my 2 cents,which mean jack fuckin shit,but oh fuckin well.Duster is some dumb shit tho,lol.
how can ya say proper place when it DONT belong here at all?
anyone huffs duster should be banned for stupidity
that my take on it
peace

EverydayJunglist
06-20-2005, 09:57 PM
Well nowhereman,the definetion of psychotropic is :Having an altering effect on perception or behavior.And duster,certainly fits that description,so yes it would be in the proper place. And anyone who huffs duster should be banned for stupidity is your opinion.One opinion in which i can see where your coming from,but nonetheless kids experiement with altered states.

My better judgement tells me that even if a post is made about how to do duster/cook crack/slam heroin,that the person reading it will use their better judgement in deciding whether or not it is a smart idea to do that drug. Basically,just because someone reads a thread about doing duster,doesn't mean there gonna go out there and do it.And the point of these forums are to spread knowledge,and i cant even begin to explain why duster is dangerous and detrimental to your health if the thread is locked before i can even read it.ya know what im saying man?

makor01
06-21-2005, 10:56 PM
yeah guys umm i think if youre gonna be a nazi about 1 thing then you should be nazis about all or none. i think i was reading a thread on how to make acid or some shit...yeah thats not dangerous. and im sure that thread beeb posted on ether wasnt a dangerous one either...why wasnt that one close? whats the difference of talking about abusing cough syrup or sniffing shit? nothing really since both can and have caused death. if youre gonna lock threads because shit can kill ya, then maybe you should be looking more at all the frigging DXM threads. just my 2 cents.

EverydayJunglist
06-22-2005, 12:42 AM
hell yeah makor