NeoCon Global Government

[pisshead]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul255.html

NeoCon Global Government

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD (http://www.house.gov/paul/mail/welcome.htm)


This week Congress will vote on a bill to expand the power of the United Nations beyond the dreams of even the most ardent left-wing, one-world globalists. But this time the UN power grabbers arenâ??t European liberals; they are American neo-conservatives, who plan to use the UN to implement their own brand of world government.

The â??United Nations Reform Act of 2005â?� masquerades as a bill that will cut US dues to the United Nations by 50% if that organization does not complete a list of 39 reforms. On the surface any measure that threatens to cut funding to the United Nations seems very attractive, but do not be fooled: in this case reform â??successâ?� will be worse than failure. The problem is in the supposed reforms themselves â?? specifically in the policy changes this bill mandates.

The proposed legislation opens the door for the United Nations to routinely become involved in matters that have never been part of its charter. Specifically, the legislation redefines terrorism very broadly for the UNâ??s official purposes â?? and charges it to take action on behalf of both governments and international organizations.

What does this mean? The official adoption of this definition by the United Nations would have the effect of making resistance to any government or any international organization an international crime. It would make any attempt to overthrow a government an international causus belli for UN military action. Until this point a sovereign government retained the legal right to defend against or defeat any rebellion within its own territory. Now any such activity would constitute justification for United Nations action inside that country. This could be whenever any splinter group decides to resist any regime â?? regardless of the nature of that regime.

What if this were in place when the Contras were fighting against the Marxist regime in Nicaragua? Or when the Afghan mujahadeen was fighting against the Soviet-installed government in the 1980s? Or during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising? The new message is clear: resistance â?? even resistance to the UN itself â?? is futile. Why does every incumbent government, no matter how bad, deserve UN military assistance to quell domestic unrest?

This new policy is given teeth by creating a â??Peacebuilding Commission,â?� which will serve as the implementing force for the internationalization of what were formerly internal affairs of sovereign nations. This Commission will bring together UN Security Council members, major donors, major troop-contributing countries, appropriate United Nations organizations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund among others. This new commission will create the beginning of a global UN army. It will claim the right to intervene in any conflict anywhere on the globe, bringing the World Bank and the IMF formally into the picture as well. It is a complete new world order, but undertaken with the enthusiastic support of many of those who consider themselves among the most strident UN critics.

Conservatives who have been critical of the UN in the past have enthusiastically embraced this bill and the concept of UN reform. But what is the desired end of â??UN reformâ?�? The UN is an organization that was designed to undermine sovereignty and representative government. It is unelected and unaccountable to citizens by its very design. Will UN reform change anything about the fact that its core mission is objectionable? Do honest UN critics really want an expanded UN that functions more â??efficientlyâ?�?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul2.jpgThe real question is whether we should redouble our efforts to save a failed system, or admit its failures â?? as this legislation does â?? and recognize that the only reasonable option is to cease participation without further costs to the United States in blood, money, and sovereignty. Do not be fooled: it is impossible to be against the United Nations and to support â??reformâ?� of the United Nations. The only true reform of the United Nations is for the US to withdraw immediately.

June 14, 2005











Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.


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[amsterdam]

heads up France!!

[stoner spirit]

I don't think that the U S will withdraw from the U N. Its probably inevitable that we will become either slaves, or servants for the rich.

[pisshead]

if no one does anything, sure, that's exactly what's going to happen.

the bread and circus crowd...those who take form over substance won't care until it directly affects them.

do whatever you can locally to make people aware of what's happening. put up flyers in your neighborhood or lists of websites on bulletin boards around town...

start a website of your own...

[stoner spirit]

What about some kind of blog thing, would that work? I don't have one, but I was thinking about getting one though. Even if I got one, would it make me more easier to track down?

[pisshead]

Don't Reform the UN - Get US out!

On Thursday, June 16, the House is scheduled to vote on H.R. 2745, the "United Nations Reform Act of 2005." (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc109/h2745_rh.xml) You are urgently requested to immediately contact your Representative (http://capwiz.com/jbs/home/) in vigorous opposition to this deceptively named bill.

The H.R. 2745 bill, the so-called UN reform measure, would actually greatly enhance UN power and further erode U.S. independence.

Tell your Rep that the only sound solution to the UN's sixty years of corrupt progress toward a full-fledged world government is to Get US out! of the United Nations through passage of H.R. 1146, the "American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2005." (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc109/h1146_ih.xml)

Resources: Click here to read the full text of H.R. 2745. (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc109/h2745_rh.xml) Click here to read an excellent analysis of the dangers of H.R. 2745 by Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas). (http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst061305.htm)

For background on the United Nations, visit getusout.org (http://www.getusout.org/)

[amsterdam]

i must agree with pisshead here(scary),but i do.

[stoner spirit]

Who's all taking action and telling their congress members to pull the U.S. out of the U.N.?

[bhallg2k]

This is funny to me. Keep going, guys.

[stoner spirit]

Yes... it is a bit comicle. When the world government is in power, its going to be vary funny as well. Everybody being disarmed, you won't even be able to defend yourself, and the government has control of your children. It is a possibility.

[Marlboroman]

I have been talking this out on another forum with some guys. Dr. Ron Paul is a Libertarian in republicans clothing.

He is mostly upset that the Bush admin is useing Coercion to get what they want in the UN.

However when he calls for the US to seperate from the UN it is coercion as well.

The UN is the NWO, as long as they all have the same vision of the future, but they are not really viewed this way around the world.

Leaving the UN would then make the UN our opposition by default.

Do we really want to make an enemy out of the UN?

I dont think we do, not only would we then be opposeing the UN but then it would further the world wide view of America as an Empire.

Peace.

[bhallg2k]

I'm glad someone else is on to Ron Paul. The man votes for the repeal of federal taxes every time he can. While the thought of living tax-free is nice, I think it was a Republican, Oliver Wendell Holmes who said, "Taxes are the price we pay for living in a free society."

Paul can't really be taken seriously.

[Marlboroman]

I'm glad someone else is on to Ron Paul. The man votes for the repeal of federal taxes every time he can. While the thought of living tax-free is nice, I think it was a Republican, Oliver Wendell Holmes who said, "Taxes are the price we pay for living in a free society."

Paul can't really be taken seriously.

Well my main beef with this guy is that he labels himself a republican.

Libertarian views are American if you ask me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian

But I am not against taxes, they are needed, but we have them going to all the wrong places. And Federal funding of schools public and private needs to stop.

Welfare and other forms of feeding a man a fish instead of teaching him to fish need to be ended.

We should take a stand that if its not made here it doesnt get sold here. Letting the Pharms outsource to Mexico and other third world countries is ridiculuos. There are many more examples, like clothing and foods.

Electorial College is a joke, it needs to be reformed to popular vote. Along with reform, there needs to be federal funding of campaighns, no private donations, a set limit, and the same amount for ALL candidates that run for president.

That puts a stop to all the bullshit, and gives the American people more choices than 2 to vote on. Do this because we all dont fit into 2 nice little catogories. And it levels the playing feild for all candidates.

We need to get out of other countries and worry about our own first.

As for the UN, well, we need to stay in it, but we should not be holding things over others heads to further our current governments illegal actions.

We also left the world court if I am not mistaken, because they are looking into charges that Bush and cohorts illegally invaded a soverieghn country who showed no outward aggression to anyone.

Leaving the UN now would be pitting ourselves against the world, and thats just stupid to think we can take them all on.

Peace.

[pisshead]

i would call him a republican...he could call himself a 'wallyfoompus' for all i care...people shouldn't vote based on the R or D next to the person's name, but on their voting record and merit...

he's what a republican used to be before they mostly became socialists.

we can achieve what the UN does while still spotlighting state sovereignty, the UN has clear aims of disarming people worldwide and doesn't much like land rights of the people...as it is now, the UN charter claims they are the arbiter of rights, and can take them away...as well as mountainous world government regulations...and corrupt WHO, WTO...

i don't trust the people running this country now...i certainly don't trust an unelected bunch of world elites basically creating a worldwide feudal slave society. it's unnecessary, the same things can be accomplished without it...and you don't have to pay for it. how did the world survive before this without a corrupt world fascist/socialist elite ruling it...

fuck the UN, fuck the EU, fuck NAFTA and GATT and CAFTA the IMF and world this and world that...get ready for global taxes.

[nicholasstanko]

and fuck the false "christian movement" too.

[pisshead]

yeah, george bush is not a christian...and he's not conservative...

he's just a puppet, he's the red paint on the coke can anyway...he's not making the decisions...just like bill clinton and bush, sr...

it's scary the depth it goes in some people who really believe george bush is a man of god...george bush worships a different god...i only fear that christians will become the jews of nazi america...it seems like they're being set up for it.

regardless, martial law will be for all of us mere serfs.

[bhallg2k]

I'm glad I'm not a Libertarian.

It's always funny to me when people talk about ending federal funding for schools (how else are we gonna pay for 'em?) or ending welfare (without so much as a mention of the larger corporate welfare) or ending the Electoral College (which is good for us liberals; end the E.C. and no one will care about the sparsely populated "red states") or proposing severe protectionist agendas ("Made in U.S.A." or not at all).

High comedy.

[nicholasstanko]

I highly agree that the Electoral College hinders true democracy. Every single person in the state could vote Dem, but it's the Republican Collegiate who's decision really matters. This isnt democracy where majority rules.

[Marlboroman]

I'm glad I'm not a Libertarian.

It's always funny to me when people talk about ending federal funding for schools (how else are we gonna pay for 'em?) or ending welfare (without so much as a mention of the larger corporate welfare) or ending the Electoral College (which is good for us liberals; end the E.C. and no one will care about the sparsely populated "red states") or proposing severe protectionist agendas ("Made in U.S.A." or not at all).

High comedy.


I am not sure what Corperate Welfare is but I will find out, if it is what it sounds like it needs to hit the road as well.

I dont know about you but I pay property taxes, and a portion of that is suppossed to go to my schools.

Done right you should be able to pay your school taxes directly to the school district in which you reside. Should they need to go up, that is fine, but at the same time you should pay less Fed tax.

The school board could then be made up of parents instead of proffesional administrators that are more or less put there because they have expereince with getting funding from the FED.

The Parents decide were the money gets spent, it wont get held over their heads like the FED does now.

Thats how it would work, like I said its not that I dont know taxes are needed in todays society, but they spend the money in the wrong places entirely.

The electorial college was fine when you had to tally up votes by hand. But today, its worthless and proven riggable.

And Made in the USA used to mean something. Now what does it mean?

I am not saying we shouldnt have trade with other countries, but yes, if you want to sell your goods in the US, a good portion of those goods should be made here. As it is the mid west has nothing to do, except what?... join the Military? Had the Pharm companies and others been more or less left with no choice but to make it here, those people would have jobs.

[Marlboroman]

i would call him a republican...he could call himself a 'wallyfoompus' for all i care...people shouldn't vote based on the R or D next to the person's name, but on their voting record and merit...

he's what a republican used to be before they mostly became socialists.

we can achieve what the UN does while still spotlighting state sovereignty, the UN has clear aims of disarming people worldwide and doesn't much like land rights of the people...as it is now, the UN charter claims they are the arbiter of rights, and can take them away...as well as mountainous world government regulations...and corrupt WHO, WTO...

i don't trust the people running this country now...i certainly don't trust an unelected bunch of world elites basically creating a worldwide feudal slave society. it's unnecessary, the same things can be accomplished without it...and you don't have to pay for it. how did the world survive before this without a corrupt world fascist/socialist elite ruling it...

fuck the UN, fuck the EU, fuck NAFTA and GATT and CAFTA the IMF and world this and world that...get ready for global taxes.


I dont trust any of them either man, they are crooked from the word go.

I think what this is is sort of a dragnet of ways to keep Bush in office to be honest.

They do this with the UN, that would then commit the UN to send troops to quell riots in the US should Bush just decide to stay in office.

There is also this push to revise the 22nd amendment, this would allow W to stay in office until voted out...(Ya right)

There is also this thing with BJ's wholesale club. These guys own like 68 gas stations or something like that, and they sell it allot cheaper than the other guys. They are now under heavy fire because someone stole customers credit info from them and then charged up a bunch of shit.

Well notice how Identity theft has become a very big topic lately? Due to this BJ's thing they are going to set up an an identity theft protection office.

This will also be linked with the Office of Homeland Security. It is basically logging everything you buy, everything Walmart does but in the name of Identity theft protection. This was on CNN last night.

The biggest problem I see with this is that in order for them to protect me, they need to know who I am to begin with. Fuck that!

Peace.

[stoner spirit]

This damn government is getting more stuffed full of shit than a Christmas turkey is. I just wonder though, if we go on like this, how long will it take for the right to privacy to be totally destroyed?

[NoosaHeads]

Pisshead this is an awsome thread thanks for the heads up....

[gronnh20]

Fuck the UN. We prop that piece of shit up with our taxpayer money. Most of those third world fucks couldn't even afford a plane ticket to NYC. We need more representation like Ron Paul gives his constituents. My rep has legislation pending on renaming a library. Lets just name it library. Go to Ron Paul's website and read his sponsored legislation he's trying to get the government off our backs. He also voted for states to decide on medical marijuana.


fuck the UN, fuck the EU, fuck NAFTA and GATT and CAFTA the IMF and world this and world that...get ready for global taxes.