Making Acid...

[Drugman Joe]

I was curious if anybody here has ever made acid, and If so would they be willing to share the knowledge? I'm tired of buying it and I could use some cash.
Feel free to instant message me or something.


if this topic is too edgy for some reason, please feel free to remove it.

[Sentinel]

you need acceess to a lab and a lot of knowledge.. acid is not easy to make. you have to know a lot about chemistry and expensive equipment, and impossible susbstances to get

[Drugman Joe]

I can get all the substances, I have plenty of connections. I just want to learn about the process, etc. There has to be some relatively simple way to make it, with the right knowledge, such as using improvised equipment...
I'm not really sure about any of it at all, I'm just curious.

[general]

i thought that lsd came from ergot fungus.

http://www.answers.com/topic/ergot

[unmeg]

look into RYE

[Maui Wowie]

"1) Grind up 150 grams of Morning Glory seeds or baby Hawaiian wood rose seeds.
2) In 130 cc. of petroleum ether, soak the seeds for two days.
3) Filter the solution through a tight screen.
4) Throw away the liquid, and allow the seed mush to dry.
5) For two days allow the mush to soak in 110 cc. of wood alcohol.
6) Filter the solution again, saving the liquid and labeling it "1."
7) Resoak the mush in 110 cc. of wood alcohol for two days.
8) Filter and throw away the mush.
9) Add the liquid from the second soak to the solution labeled "1."
10) Pour the liquid into a cookie tray and allow it to evaporate.
11) When all of the liquid has evaporated, a yellow gum remains. This should be scraped up and put into capsules.
30 grams of Morning Glory seeds = 1 trip
15 Hawaiian wood rose seeds = 1 trip

Many companies, such as Northop-King have been coating their seeds with a toxic chemical, which is poison. Order seeds from a wholesaler, as it is much safer and cheaper. Hawaiian wood rose seeds can be ordered directly from:

Chong's Nursery and Flowers
P.O. Box 2154
Honolulu, Hawaii"

This is originally from "The Anarchist's Cookbook" and i've never tried it.

[5HT]

LSD is made by synthesizing alkaloids from the ergot fungus. It's a very difficult process I hear, which is why I'm thinking about majoring in organic chemistry.

[Drugman Joe]

"1) Grind up 150 grams of Morning Glory seeds or baby Hawaiian wood rose seeds.
2) In 130 cc. of petroleum ether, soak the seeds for two days.
3) Filter the solution through a tight screen.
4) Throw away the liquid, and allow the seed mush to dry.
5) For two days allow the mush to soak in 110 cc. of wood alcohol.
6) Filter the solution again, saving the liquid and labeling it "1."
7) Resoak the mush in 110 cc. of wood alcohol for two days.
8) Filter and throw away the mush.
9) Add the liquid from the second soak to the solution labeled "1."
10) Pour the liquid into a cookie tray and allow it to evaporate.
11) When all of the liquid has evaporated, a yellow gum remains. This should be scraped up and put into capsules.
30 grams of Morning Glory seeds = 1 trip
15 Hawaiian wood rose seeds = 1 trip

Many companies, such as Northop-King have been coating their seeds with a toxic chemical, which is poison. Order seeds from a wholesaler, as it is much safer and cheaper. Hawaiian wood rose seeds can be ordered directly from:

Chong's Nursery and Flowers
P.O. Box 2154
Honolulu, Hawaii"

This is originally from "The Anarchist's Cookbook" and i've never tried it.


I found that earlier this morning, but that recipe is for extracting LSA from morning glories.

[Syrus]

Sadily LSD is really hard to make, look on www.erowid.org for more info

[Delta9]

If you can really get the chemicals you will need laboratory glasswear: reaction flasks, distillation setup, volumetric flasks, an electric balance that measures mass at least to the nearest 1/10 of a gram, a flameless hot plate, rotary evaporator, ect.
Youll also need an tank of inert gas like argon and a dark room because some of the intermediates will decompose upon air and light. The temperature of the lab should be regulated to 25C and you should be working in a fume hood because of the fumes. the Methylene Chloride solvent is carcinogen petroleum ether fumes affect the reproductive system.

The actual synthesis itself is multi-stepped and to properly carry out each step is going to require some synthesis practice. You might want to go to the library and get an organic laboratory book and synthesis a couple of simpler compounds out of the manuel first. It dosent always work the first time.

[Delta9]

Not to mention the difficulty in concealing a clandestine laboratory from the watchful eyes of the police. Cause your going to have chemicals everywere, and will be producing waste. Plus the evacuation of fumes. An apartment is not really a good place cause of the restriction in space. But I'll be looking foward to hearing about any arrests or explosions on the news. Rock on.

[Drugman Joe]

It would be in my attic or somewhere. I'm probably going to get with the chemist soon, there are several around that I know.

[EverydayJunglist]

Find a fucking old silo out in the west.Every process in making i know must be very precise or a completely different chemical(other then lsd-25) will be the result.From all i have read it is a very difficult process,even if you are quite knowledgable.

And as much connections that you think you have,i do not honestly think you could acquire all the chemicals needed.As the feds would be alerted upon the ordering of some of the chems.Unless you are friends with peolle in rrrrreeeeal high places.:)

[makor01]

i can see someone ending up dead or in the psy ward if he goes on with this =)

[Firebrand]

ya even tho it would be nice to have some more LSD around

[andruejaysin]

Read "Practical LSD Manufacturing" by Uncle Fester. About 2 pages in you're gonna realize manufacturing LSD isn't very practical.

[Delta9]

How about a nuclear reactor? You could start to build one as you are working in the lab.

I can imagin it. Bottles of sulfuric acid, methanol, and diethyl ether sitting in a attic. The ether will react with the moister (water) and oxygen in the air to form peroxides, which will initiate a chain reaction releasing a lot of energy. You'll need a cooler full of dry ice to store the ether. At least if I was playing with ether I would keep it in dry ice. No only that the sulfuric acid will collect on the wooden beams and corrode it. Then you'll also have sodium hydroxide, nitric, hydrochloric acid laying around a wooden framed attic.

[Delta9]

Oh yea if you know a way to get liquid bromine (Br2) a necessary reagent, post it. Unless your going to try and do the addition with chlorine gas. You better have really a good fume hood and ventilation for that.

[Delta9]

you'll need a "flux capacitor" as well.

[Drugman Joe]

Read "Practical LSD Manufacturing" by Uncle Fester. About 2 pages in you're gonna realize manufacturing LSD isn't very practical.
Agreed!

[koshea]

wernt there like 2 guys that made almost all of americas LSD for like 30 years in a silo somwhere in the midwest?

[Dick Justice]

I dont know their history, but I know a few years ago two major guys got nailed and we've been drying up ever since.

[Delta9]

Na, you don't wanna have your attic full of chemicals. It's not worth it.

[Delta9]

But you could make an electrochemical cell, for fun.

[harmonicminor]

just find somewhere to buy 5meo-amt. it is like acid, shrooms and ecstasy mixed and intensified

[Nullific]

wernt there like 2 guys that made almost all of americas LSD for like 30 years in a silo somwhere in the midwest?
William Leonard Pickard and Clyde Apperson, the DEA claims they produced 90% of the acid in America...but we all know how honest those people are.

[andruejaysin]

Bill Pickard snitched on more good cooks than I can count. And he didn't make LSD for 30 years, in the early 90s he made P2P meth in Tulsa, OK. Got busted and ratted on everyone he ever met, I got friends still locked down. Don't cry for the cocksucker.

[Delta9]

Can you buy 5meo-amt over-the-counter?

2% I2, 2.4% NaI

[Delta9]

Hymmm? Lets see here where would we get phosphate?.
How about TSP siding cleaner. (Na3PO4)

[Delta9]

Wow this is fun but lets not get too clumsy with Cl2 after all its extremely deadly.

H+(aq) + ClO- + Cl-(aq) ----------> Cl2(g) + H20.

[Delta9]

Ethanoic anhydride is also illegally used to make acetylated morphine (Heroin).

[XjUsTbLaZeX]

i say we leave it to the experts, unless it brings u joy to know that 1 mistake in your planning could be deadly when working with those chemicals :)

[Delta9]

Yea. Those fatal mistakes like those nightshades.

[EverydayJunglist]

Delta,what does phospate and 5-meo-amt make? Does it make a more potent version that has effects noticeable in micrograms or something? Cuz i know 5meoamt is active in doses or 1 oe 2mg's.

[Delta9]

Most likely nothing.

What is 5-meo-amt anyway?

[EverydayJunglist]

you are a silly fuck

[Delta9]

Yea I certainly am. But give me a break if I was not a loser, Or had somewhere to go I probably wouldent be typing this. Okay I see amt looks like this figure. It has a psychoactive shape to it sort of like shit in shrooms.
And I can tell you don't like me.

[EverydayJunglist]

dont like you? what?

[Delta9]

Its shit any way. It some chemical. There's thousands of chemicals. Like Dinitrogen tetroxide. or peroxodisulfate. Or my mamas dick. Or my monkey spunk.
It's time to dance, On Sprockets.

We are the German Sprocket Dancers. Lets get tight and dance tonight.

[EverydayJunglist]

dude,you are pretty random and funny.Are you currently in a chemical induced haze.And are you a chemist or somethin?

[Delta9]

nah. Ive just been thinking about how to convert vanilla extract into 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde with houshold goods. It hasent been too promising as of yet, but I haven't given up. I sure as hell hope they don't take that iodine tincture off the shelf cause it is quite a valuble skin remedy.

[Encatuse]

Delta's brain IS a chemically induced haze.

[EverydayJunglist]

haha,he always has these werid chemical names,but never explains shit.I wanna know how to brew up chemicals godammit!!

[Delta9]

I'd start with a beer making kit. Or a wine making kit.

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/chemistrymn/chemlabs.html

[EverydayJunglist]

your such a joker

[Nullific]

Plenty of shit on LSD synthesis on the Rhodium archive, even with all of this it is still near impossible for any of us to make.
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/index.html

[Delta9]

In the 60's they made tons of it most of the stuff available one the street until recently was probably left over from the 60's. Joker yea. Theres no possible way to contain chlorine gas safely without highly specialized and expensive equiptment. You would have to be running a large scale laboratory.
Not only that if you were going to fuck with chlorine you couldent do it anywhere near anybody or anything. Chlorine gas just hangs in the air, thats why the Germans employed it in WWI.

[EverydayJunglist]

if you know all this why don't you make some doses

well,actually i take that back i think the problem would be acquiring the chemicals

[Delta9]

It might be possible to generate nitrogen gas with ammonia and hydrogen peroxide galvanically, but hydrogen peroxide is only available in 3% which is a pretty weak solution. But N2(g) is inert and you could use it to store your air sensitive psychadelics and compounds in the freezer by flushing the vial with the produced N2.

[EverydayJunglist]

can u actually get the chemicals you are talking about without raising suspicion from the feds or dea or whatnot?

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

I could get liquid ammonia from school, we have huge jars of it that the teacher uses for experiments

[Delta9]

I make a slight error, for one thing anything involving chlorine is way too dangerous, i think chlorine is legal to use in swimming pools but aside from that it has no use outside of industrial manufacturing of various chemicals.

For an attemp at making nitrogen gas by electrolysis NH4OH it might not work because the half reaction involves an ionized form of ammonia NH3OH+ as stated in the handbook of chemistry and physics.

I woulden't steel the chemicals from school, and actually I wouldent try to mix anything if I were you unless you know exactly what your doing and what your going to do with it. The only thing would would use something like nitrogen gas for is if you were storing a compound that was unstable in air.

[Delta9]

See thats the thing If you wanted to make Acid you would either have to buy all kinds of chemical reagents and equiptment from a chemical company which would 1. cost a lot of money and 2. the authorities would want to know why you ordered all the reagents and what you are using them for.

The other would be complete synthesis but if you tried to make the reagents necessary you would have to work with extremely poisonous gases and deadly processes.
so it basically impossible.

[muncheemama]

delta, youre a goddamn genius...

[Delta9]

Yes we'll my past drug use has really fucked up my short term memory and I don't consider myself a genius, but Electrochemical methods are really cheap, really effective, and relatively easy if you know what your doing. Its like electroplating auto parts. The thing is that you might be able to purify some compounds relatively easily easily that would otherwise cost some cash.

So in devising a synthetic path route to a desired compound like LsD, electrochemical synthesis might be the only way now-a-days because of tighter and tighter restrictions on the availablity of pharmaceutically importand compounds.

What really fuck it up was those Goddamn terrorist! Like Fucking Timothy McFay!
Goddamn it! They batter find those Goddamn Al- Queda bitches now. Those fucking pieces of shit!

[haha]

They batter find those Goddamn Al- Queda bitches now. Those fucking pieces of shit!

The CIA apparently has an "excellent idea" where bin Laden is, "but that the al Qaeda chief will not be caught until weak links in the war on terrorism are strengthened". Sounds more like an excuse to me. Saddam gets pummeled by our country, yet bin Laden gets the green light to go anywhere he pleases. If the borders were being tightly controlled by us, how did bin Laden get into Sudan?

Oh well, I'll leave my political discussions for another thread.