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pisshead

06-07-2005, 03:14 PM

always a good sign of freedom.

Tanks In The Streets Of New York
Prison Planet | June 7th 2005 (http://prisonplanet.com/index.html)

On a recent trip to NY City (last weekend) three gun-mounted, armored tanks/vehicles were driving through the streets of Manhattan. I took these pictures with my camera phone (hence the crappy quality).

I couldnâ??t believe how many people just waved at the armed soldiers peeking out of the top, many even cheered loudly in support. Nobody took the time to say, â??why the hell are armed soldiers and tanks rolling down the middle of the street?!â?

This happened the day after I saw a NYPD officer in Times Square â?? he was simply standing around watching the pedestrian traffic, the only thing out of placeâ?¦ he was carrying a machine gun!

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So the question isâ?¦ what do we do about it?!

L

P.S. The tank pictures were taken at the corner of 53rd and 7th in Manhattan (just a few blocks from Central Park).

FLASHBACK: Anti-war protest in L.A. gets response with APCs (http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Nov_04/111104_tanks.html)

FLASHBACK: Alabama Activates Tank Unit (http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_071802_urbanwarfare.html)

nicholasstanko

06-07-2005, 03:53 PM

whoa.

slipknotpsycho

06-07-2005, 04:33 PM

pisshead

06-07-2005, 04:58 PM

they most certainly are preparing for martial law...tommy franks said after the next attack, we'll all just realize how useless the constitution is, and trade it in for martial law, a military dictatorship.

i expect to see localized martial law where ever the next attack is...

i've seen a new york times article from the 1930's that talks about how america will be broken up into 10 or 12 zones with rest and relocation centers all over the country...this is the plan of the global elite and the bankers and those who basically own the stock market and big corporations...they just love it.

it's controlled on all sides...from the conservatives to the liberals...the UN is basically there to usurp american sovereignty and take away property rights...like all the big environmentalist movements in the US...people who think they're doing good and saving the environment, are actually just empowering the global elite with bigger government and more unconstitutional regulations...

check out my post about CAFTA.

global dictatorship, global feudalism, global socialism and fascism...cameras everywhere...national id cards all around the world, paying global taxes...basically a ruling elite overseeing a massive poor and dumbed down population.

technological feudalism and slavery, with terrorism being the excuse to make it all necessary, when the fbi/cia and global intelligence agencies carry out the major terrorist attacks. that's the new freedom.

yocass

06-07-2005, 04:59 PM

could be a military transport..... movin them from one base to another ya know. Happens all the time here. Usually they are loaded on flatbeds though lol.

Marlboroman

06-07-2005, 05:22 PM

dude all i can say is WTH.....maybe the govt is preparing for something that they know is about to go down and they aren't telling us? .......and as my wife just said (in diffrent words) what the hell is the point in not telling us for their old favorite reason "becasue they don't want to alarm us" .....WHAT THE FUCKING HELL wouldn't seeing tanks rolling down the street make people wonder and "be alarmed" maybe it's just the "seen everything" new york attitude tho

This isnt the case man, they came at 9/11 and never went away. They have been here since 9/11 and they wont be going away.

I still have no idea who they are supposed to be protecting us from, and to this day you can see National Gaurdsmen in Penn Station with automatic weapons. Its pretty common.

With as easy as it would be to take out a subway station, and to hit many in succesion by even just one man. simply makes it unbeleiveable that they are here to protect me you or anyone else.

They are here to simply raise your tolerance level to them being around. That way its not such a shock when they are forceably benmding the US to their will.

That day will come as well, in the end, the know they cannot control us by keeping us stupid forever. They have started useing Pharms as a way to pacify restless members of society, in an effort to prolonge the use of no force.

But after enough wake up and see what is really going on, they will be forced to control us by force.

To curtail the states militia's the GOV has started tagging ammunition with RFID's. And they have started a huge push to collect up loose cash around the country. There was a 20/20 or 60 minutes episode I saw not long ago that they said over 8 million dollars in cash had been siezed in a single county in florida on the I95 vein to vacation land. I saw the police videos of these fucking scum bag troopers ripping people cars apart and seizeing as little as $1200 as drug money. Never makeing an arrest mind you, just takeing their money, and sending them on their way.

Pushing us to a one card sytstem for it all with our personal info able to be brought up to any PC terminal hooked into the system. Wal-mart is already the top of the food chain when it comes to trying to get your personal info.

I myself was asked my telephone number when I bought something with CASH. When I refused I was told the register would not proceed with out my Telephone number. 10 fake ass digits later I was allowed to by my five dollar item.

Anything online is subject to the same things, but trust me your info is already out there. If you have a telephone in your name its all already out there for corparations to buy. So aside form picking up and moveing and cutting your self loose of all ties to mainstream america you cannot escape what is happening.

This is the number one thing that keeps us down, our dependency on the system, and the lack of desire to do without the things main stream America provides.

Not to mention if you did this most of not all of your friends will acuse you of being anti-american, or a survivalist. I speak from experience there, thats excatly what I have been called by some of my freinds and others.

Dont get me wrong there are people who think just like me, and they are starting to band together. Its just very important to raise public awareness that these groups are not terrorists and they are fighting for us. In short these groups need some PR to make them more viable for the average person. Cause thats what we are here, a Nation of average people.

forced with 2 options most of the average people will choose the path of less resistance. The lesser of two evils.

If the only thing standing between Tyranny and freedom is a guy in a suit with all the power behind him or a group of "radicals" and are potrayed as such by the suit.
Most Americans will choose the lazy way and stay put and obey. Take their little happy pill, go to their job everyday makeing money for someone else, and chase the illusion of the american dream as the borders of freedoms close in around them.

Peace.

Marlboroman

06-07-2005, 05:26 PM

could be a military transport..... movin them from one base to another ya know. Happens all the time here. Usually they are loaded on flatbeds though lol.

Bro the only reason to have tanks IN Manhattan, is the raise the tolerance level of the citizens. If you have ever been to NYC, you know that there is no reason to go thru it to transport anything to anywhere.

Any bases would be located on Long Island or upstate as its called. You wouldnt go thru Manhattan transporting when the GWB and the Whitestone bridge get you were you need to be.

makor01

06-07-2005, 08:02 PM

Button Basher

06-07-2005, 08:16 PM

wtf you people are freaking out... ...get a fucking clue.

I was thinking that. When I lived in portsmouth we had some tanks roaming around one day. People waved and the soldiers waved back, it was hardly fear-inducing.

Did they have a megaphone blaring out "GO BACK TO YOUR HOMES"? ;)

slipknotpsycho

06-07-2005, 08:22 PM

ok you could be right....but what happens if WE are? and it wouldn't take much to control people with a tank....do you think any one person is going to stand up and say "fuck you" when there's a huge fucking cannon staring at you in the face? would you? sure they get one shot every minute or so, but how many people are willing to lay down their lives for freedom anymore? how many people would die between cannon fire and MG/sMG fire before they could over power even the smallest unit? and after so many die do you really think those people are going to keep coming? just think about it logically this is the country where most people will give up anything if their life is threatened. but i'm not saying your wrong, you could very well be right with the training exercise bit. maybe we don't need to "get a fucking clue" and you need to open your eyes to what's going on.....things are rapidly changing atleast in america (if not the whole world) all the way from how people think and act to the way the way things are now run. so answer one question....if some guy in a tank backed by atleast 2 or 3 guys with automatic weapons tells you to do something are you going to listen? or are you going to stand up for what you believe in and die for it? becasue i honestly believe that they have way less tollerance than they used to.

makor01

06-07-2005, 08:33 PM

nicholasstanko

06-07-2005, 08:49 PM

i keep hearing all this crap about the poilce/soldiers in the air ports with automatic weapons etc etc. People dont seem to realize how sept 11 changed shit. Theyre not trying to make some "police state" its called a "build up" and is supposed to serve as a deterrent for any future attacks. Notice that i said "suppose to". Do i think that having all these police/national guard soldiers in train stations and air ports is gonna help? well no i really dont. In fact i think its caused exactly what im seeing in this thread....paranoia. I dont deny that "big brother" is out there and that the gathering of personal info is happening, but i dont take simple pictures of 1 LAV in NY as the beginning of "martial law".

Even though Donald Rumsfeld came on the air and stated that in the event of another attack, people would lose their liberties and made it clear that the current constitution would be placed on the back burner for a more militaristic state? I'm not going on hearsay i watched it on television. I read reports about how Roberto Gonzalez thinks torture is okay even torturing people to death. Today it might be one tank with people waving and cheering but wait until another attack. Everyone will be so scared that they'll do whatever soldiers tell them because they'll remember how warm and receptive it was before.

makor01

06-07-2005, 08:55 PM

so what would you do nich?

nicholasstanko

06-07-2005, 09:58 PM

so what would you do nich?

I'd love to say I'd beef up and form my own one-man army but truthfully I don't know. I've never lived anywhere where the army can come in and round up whoever. The thing is though, if that happens I'm not going to get taken by surprise. I refuse to be like the other automotons who'll be "shocked" and "caught off guard" and had "no idea such a thing could happen".

makor01

06-07-2005, 10:16 PM

From now on i dub thee John J Rambo!!! :cool:

Truth is....nobody knows what they would do until it did happen....if it ever does.

Marlboroman

06-08-2005, 02:06 AM

wtf you people are freaking out cause there is 1 LAV in NY, wtf cummon guys im sure you can get better material than this to make your cons theories.

i think it would take a hell of alot more "tanks" as you say to impose martial law in down town NY. How do you know theyre not doing some training mission or something like that. Instead the first think you see is some theory of the government trying to take over NY...get a fucking clue.

A training exercise?

Excatly what kind of training are they doing in NYC with crowded streets?

Maybe it was a dirty water dog alert and the drill was who could make it to the hot dog stand first with only a fist full of nickels.

Further more NYC is the perfect place to start with martial law.
Most here already have so much stress in their lives that if they are not in depression already they are takeing anti-deppressants in order to function at work everyday. So these people are already more sussecible to fear as a control than most.
On top of that, one can always say they are simply here to protect us from further "terrorist" attacks, maybe the CIA or FBI got a hot tip from Okbar the bagel guy down the block and they were looking for a terrorist.....

Use real logic guys, I was in the military. They dont run drills so the public can openly see them, and thats a fact.

So exclude the obviuos answers to what they were doing there and you come up with a big fat question mark.

And thats what we should be asking, had I been there I would have talked to them, made friends with them and see what was up for myself. Hell i bet better than 60% of the armed forces are made up of guys from Texas, I am from Texas so thats a huge in. Aside from that they have many training bases down there, so chances are most have been there at one point or another.

All I did was offer my view as to what they are doing parked in the street in broad daylight as crowds of people walked by.

Also Fleet week was here in NYC over the big weekend. I had a freind go down there and he said their gear was totally sick, and if anything I have to say is possible, we as civilian citizens are fucked.

The guy who took it said it was a week old so unless its actually 2 weeks old they should have been long gone by then. Besides in my days in the Navy I came to NYC 2 times dureing Fleet week. Never at any time in both years, did the Marines leave the ship with weapons, or vehicles.

Oh and 53rd and 7th is mid town. not Downtown.

Peace.

pisshead

06-08-2005, 02:13 AM

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml

http://www.americanfreepress.net/11_28_03/Franks_Fears/franks_fears.html

we're being geared up for martial law...9/11 is the excuse for everything...plenty of evidence implicating our government with foreknowledge and involvement...so who stands to gain...i'm sure our government will be really sad about having to impose dictatorship on us.

if and when we give up the constitution...doesn't that mean 'the terrorists' have won?

google search "tommy franks military government" or something similar for more.

i also have a joint committee of congress on video where a congressman asks about the plans to scrap the constitution and about the camps for rounding up citizens...he asks this to tommy franks...this was in the 80's i think...and the chairman stops him and says 'we can't discuss this...if necessary we can set up an executive session...'

shot down. they've been planning the military takeover of America for a long time.

everyone should see that...i know it's in one of alex jones' videos...i forget which one...one of the police state series i think...or america destroyed by design.

Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack
John O. Edwards, NewsMax.com
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.
Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the menâ??s lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

In the magazineâ??s December edition, the former commander of the militaryâ??s Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.

Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that â??the worst thing that could happenâ? is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.

If that happens, Franks said, â??... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty weâ??ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.â?

Franks then offered â??in a practical senseâ? what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.

â??It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world â?? it may be in the United States of America â?? that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.â?

Franks didnâ??t speculate about how soon such an event might take place.

Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent.

But Franksâ?? scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government.

The usually camera-shy Franks retired from U.S. Central Command, known in Pentagon lingo as CentCom, in August 2003, after serving nearly four decades in the Army.

Franks earned three Purple Hearts for combat wounds and three Bronze Stars for valor. Known as a â??soldierâ??s general,â? Franks made his mark as a top commander during the U.S.â??s successful Operation Desert Storm, which liberated Kuwait in 1991. He was in charge of CentCom when Osama bin Ladenâ??s al-Qaeda attacked the United States on Sept. 11.

Franks said that within hours of the attacks, he was given orders to prepare to root out the Taliban in Afghanistan and to capture bin Laden.

Franks offered his assessment on a number of topics to Cigar Aficionado, including:

President Bush: â??As I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say heâ??s not very smart. I find the contrary. I think heâ??s very, very bright. And I suspect that heâ??ll be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably weâ??ll think of him in years to come as an American hero.â?

On the motivation for the Iraq war: Contrary to claims that top Pentagon brass opposed the invasion of Iraq, Franks said he wholeheartedly agreed with the presidentâ??s decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein.

â??I, for one, begin with intent. ... There is no question that Saddam Hussein had intent to do harm to the Western alliance and to the United States of America. That intent is confirmed in a great many of his speeches, his commentary, the words that have come out of the Iraqi regime over the last dozen or so years. So we have intent.

â??If we know for sure ... that a regime has intent to do harm to this country, and if we have something beyond a reasonable doubt that this particular regime may have the wherewithal with which to execute the intent, what are our actions and orders as leaders in this country?â?

The Pentagonâ??s deck of cards: Asked how the Pentagon decided to put its most-wanted Iraqis on a set of playing cards, Franks explained its genesis. He recalled that when his staff identified the most notorious Iraqis the U.S. wanted to capture, â??it just turned out that the number happened to be about the same as a deck of cards. And so somebody said, â??Aha, this will be the ace of spades.â??â?

Capturing Saddam: Franks said he was not surprised that Saddam has not been captured or killed. But he says he will eventually be found, perhaps sooner than Osama bin laden.

â??The capture or killing of Saddam Hussein will be a near term thing. And I wonâ??t say thatâ??ll be within 19 or 43 days. ... I believe it is inevitable.â?

Franks ended his interview with a less-than-optimistic note. â??Itâ??s not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. ... I doubt that weâ??ll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.â?

makor01

06-08-2005, 02:18 AM

yocass

06-08-2005, 02:23 AM

ok maybe we cant agree on the transformers... but ~clap~ good job in the navy we also did training excercises on the san diego coastline in full view of the public. Hard to hide big ass naval ships. Maybe we initiated the cloaking devices lol.

sawleaf

06-08-2005, 02:53 AM

That LAV could be on the streets for any number of reasons. Training exercises, public displays, recruitment, road testing. I don't see a machine gun even mounted on it. I have driven military vehicles through public places many many times and I see it all the time where I live. I'll worry about things when the shooting starts. Until then, I'll live my life paranoia free.

makor01

06-08-2005, 03:04 AM

thank you sawleaf...at least you called it what it is too "LAV".....11M here what were you?

EverydayJunglist

06-08-2005, 03:06 AM

we aint playing around in noo yawk

EverydayJunglist

06-08-2005, 03:08 AM

honestly though,a cop with a macihine gun in central park........i bet that makes the tourists feel welcome.Godamn.A fuckin park?! WTF?

sawleaf

06-08-2005, 03:11 AM

thank you sawleaf...at least you called it what it is too "LAV".....11M here what were you?

Yeah, Light Armored Vehicles are far from tanks. I was in the Marines. 3 years out now. Was a grunt though. 0331 :)

makor01

06-08-2005, 03:14 AM

yeah theyd think diff if they had an M1A1 roll up on them... i was in for about 8 yrs...was a grunt as well 11 is infantry series MOS.

Marlboroman

06-08-2005, 03:15 AM

where ever the fuck 53rd and douchbag is at im sure it isnt whatever youre saying it was.

I was in many "riot" training exercises where we actually trained with the public...so right there your facts are wrong...ive really given up on arguing with you and pisshead cause you can make up the most assanine exceptions anyone can think of, apparenty you learned dick when you were in huh.

Buy a map or find one online if you think 53rd and 7th is downtown.

What i learned in the forces was to not ask questions.... apparently thats what you learned as well.

makor01

06-08-2005, 03:20 AM

honestly though,a cop with a macihine gun in central park........i bet that makes the tourists feel welcome.Godamn.A fuckin park?! WTF?

Machine gun, pistol they both server the same purpose...and its more of a visual thing more than anything anyhow. There are cops in Pittsburgh carrying m-4's etc. I see them all the time around the federal buildings...but i dont go around making up these half cocked crazy consp theories.

makor01

06-08-2005, 03:24 AM

slipknotpsycho

06-08-2005, 03:49 AM

ok well if you guys worked for the government that gives me even less reason to believe you....sorry for disagreeing on you with this makor01 please know it's nothing personal and i even stood up for you in all the other posts (except the first one and that was before i realized whats his misspelled name was an instigating shithead) but i firmly and beligerintly (sp?) believe the evidence is way to compelling....i had all these theories even before this post was contemplated.....i've had all these theories in my head since the exact day of 9/11 and i think it's just a bit too much of a coincidence (on the terriosts side) that they chose to attack us on the day that is the exact same number as our emergency number....it's not that i just want to believe that the governement thinks of us as nothing more than vermin that are too stupid and panicky (i mean how would they know...not like they've ever told us the truth before) to accept anything in this country......it's the fact that all my life (and i'm a pretty smart one too) i've seen all the loop holes and POSSIBLE (can't say for sure cuz...in reality no one really knows for sure except for the higher up people) cover-ups to believe any diffrent......i guess you could say i was raised this one...and just to dispell any possible believes that it was due to influence it wasn't..i was raised by nothing more than grandparents who could give a shit about anything other than cigarettes, getting drunk and reading fantasy novels and watching star trek. i believe everyone is entitled to their opinion as should I. and should this anger you or frustrate you in any way i'm sorry becasue i am really not here to start shit or argue...it's just the beliefes i've grown up on.

Marlboroman

06-08-2005, 03:53 AM

im not from NY so have no clue where that is...no reason arguing about that broham. I learned alot more than that when i was in.....trust me on that one....read some of my other posts about my experiences.

Ill pass but thanks for the offer just the same..

I have lived around and worked in NYC since '96.

And when you finally do open your eyes to what is going on around you I hope you are in a place you can fight back.

I for one cant hardly think about much without adding a move away from here into the picture.

I am not crazy, nor am I paranoid. You cannot make me discount myself or the real things happening in our country, just because you do not see them.

Peace.

makor01

06-08-2005, 04:04 AM

no man it doesnt anger me at all, you at least have some sort of respect compared to some people. Granted at times we all get a bit heated and say stupid insulting shit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. On msg boards like these we just debate. Im sure that pisshead and MM arent bad guys IRL we just disagree here. If you dont trust the government thats your thing. I am no different of a person than most of the people here (except proff dickhead), the fact that i was in the army for 8 years and did alot of fucked up shit holds no bearing on what i feel like now. Well maybe it does a bit but more so in the terms of regret. Ive seen some fucked up shit and ive done my fair share of it. For some reason i just cant look at this as the beginning of martial law. Im not some blind follower of the government, im not some left wing crazy ass or someone who is too gutless to stand up and attempt to make a difference.

There are only certain things that i actively debate about, and the military is one of them. Maybe thats because of alot of my experiences and the fact that its the one career that ive really had my whole life. I know what some people are thinking...well why are you on a "stoners" message boards, and i already explained that in a previous post. Its all good tho slip...nothing but respect for ya.

makor01

06-08-2005, 04:06 AM

I wouldnt say youre crazy MM, but i do think you read into things a bit much. But if thats your thing bro go ahead and do it man, the only side that im on at the moment is my family's and my loved ones.

slipknotpsycho

06-08-2005, 04:19 AM

well good i'm glad we can still be cool, and i guess i really have nothing left to offer this thread cuz i've already offered all my opinions on the matters o guess see ya on antoher thread? hopefully bashing professOr (gotta use a big o to show it's significance lol) noob lol

makor01

06-08-2005, 04:23 AM

haha yeah man!!

mytm

06-08-2005, 12:07 PM

their are alot of rich people here in New York they just want them to feel safe.

Marlboroman

06-08-2005, 06:28 PM

their are alot of rich people here in New York they just want them to feel safe.

Feel safe from who?

nicholasstanko

06-08-2005, 06:31 PM

Safe from the idea of terrorist jihadists who have bigger problems trying to defend their lives and country than attacking america. They'll have the military parading all around like they're the reason terrorists wont DARE anonymously walk by some trash can and have a grenade explode.

Marlboroman

06-08-2005, 09:19 PM

LOL Nick I know these things bro........ my question was more for those that dont want to see the world revolveing around them bro....

Thanks for the support tho )

Peace.

makor01

06-08-2005, 09:29 PM

revolving*

Marlboroman

06-08-2005, 09:34 PM

Ya I have a tendency to leave the e on shit when I make it plural.. oh well my flaw and i am happy with it.

Peace.

makor01

06-08-2005, 10:37 PM

Safe from the idea of terrorist jihadists who have bigger problems trying to defend their lives and country....

Would you rather have them fly more planes into soft targets? or perhaps hijack the plane youre on next time youre on the way to aruba for your time share?

Nich sometimes i dont get you, honestly (and dont think im insulting you) you seem like youre more on the side of the jihadists/terrorists. Then other times it seems that youre not...its hard to read you sometimes.

Marlboroman

06-09-2005, 02:08 AM

Would you rather have them fly more planes into soft targets? or perhaps hijack the plane youre on next time youre on the way to aruba for your time share?

Nich sometimes i dont get you, honestly (and dont think im insulting you) you seem like youre more on the side of the jihadists/terrorists. Then other times it seems that youre not...its hard to read you sometimes.

Ok number one, I wouldnt say any of us are pro Jihadist/Terrorists.

Thats just the propaganda speaking for you there. if you understand what we are saying it has nothing to do with supporting terrorists as Bill O'Rielly would have Americans believe.

I am not worried about a terrorist attack man. I know that if we are atacked our GOV will know all about it and have to important people removed from the target area.

Who is to say that I am not one of these people?

Peace.

makor01

06-09-2005, 02:47 AM

all im saying is that nich seems to have more empathy for the terrorists than he does the americans that have died since all this has started...my question was directed at him not you.

makor01

06-09-2005, 02:50 AM

and when i say those who have died i mean in the attacks , and since then.

Button Basher

06-09-2005, 10:16 AM

Has there actually been any real terrorism since 9/11 in America? Directly linked to Al-Quaida I mean? There definitely hasn't been any in England, we're still waiting for our reason to go to war :p .

I remember reading a quote from some numpty saying "there havn't been any attacks since 9/11, you can thank Bush for that". It's like claiming my computer keeps vultures away because there arn't any in my living room.

slipknotpsycho

06-09-2005, 10:40 AM

lmfao ok i know i said i was done with this, but that's just funny while still being a good point.....i hate bush.......

amsterdam

06-09-2005, 02:15 PM

pisshead

06-09-2005, 02:32 PM

gee...i wonder what you'll be saying after the next attack comes...which we've been assured by numerous people will happen...they're so sad about it...but they just know it's going to happen...

maybe martial law will keep us safe.

F L E S H

06-09-2005, 02:49 PM

there hasnt been a terrorist attack since september 11??gee,i wonder why??

can you really not see why??wow. :cool:

Can you really believe Bush had anything to do with it?? wow. :cool:

amsterdam

06-09-2005, 03:00 PM

i know there will be another attack.

maybe bush can use his drug cartel to stop it huh?

Marlboroman

06-09-2005, 04:36 PM

Why would Bush try to stop it?

it works in his favor and the goals he and his cronnies what to accomplish.

Did Bush plan it? NO

Did Bush know it was going to happen? On some level, YES

these guys know each other, the worlds leaders are little better than the mafia in the respect that they know excatly why and what happens.

He knew it was going to happen, he just didnt know by who or when. Maybe he knew both who and when, but refusal to ask the question is just denial.

Peace.