View Full Version : Can you OD on weed?
MisstreeNny
06-06-2005, 03:18 PM
I have smoked a lot in my time but there were times when I would smoke some real strong shit and my heart would start palpitating and I would get this paranoid feeling like I smoked too much. 
Is it possible to OD on weed? What's the worst that could happen?
btw, I stopped smoking hash because the feeling I would get from that were way worse.
Dick Justice
06-06-2005, 03:21 PM
No, you can't OD on weed.  You can get a panic attack or something, but there is no possible OD level.
MisstreeNny
06-06-2005, 03:27 PM
No, you can't OD on weed.  You can get a panic attack or something, but there is no possible OD level.
Ok, thanks, because I knew that it wasn't just in my head.
But can a panic attack result in other serious heart related issues?
dokowitz4carbowski
06-06-2005, 03:31 PM
We have never heard of anyone OD'ing on dope. Panic attacks can't result in any heart issues and i doubt that dope can cause a panic attack alone. But if your getting para enough to bring on an attack then we think you should take a break from the weed man!
But obviously you can get all the typical illnessess from smoking too much.
peace out
Doko and Carbo
NowhereMan
06-06-2005, 03:33 PM
sure
if you can smoke about 5 pounds in a day,
weed is safe,some do have anxiety when they get a buzz becuase they dont know whats going on
it will pass,and its not harmfull(maybe to a phsyco it may be)
enjoy it
peace
MisstreeNny
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
But i'm not even talking about smoking too much. I have actually smoked a couple tokes from a really good blunt or joint and still felt this way. This also happens to me when I haven't smoked in a while. 
I'm just trying to see what everyone's elses point of view is, and as of now I don't smoke, sadly i'm probably the only member here that hasnt smoke in almost a year.
Beeblebrox.420
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
Well, there IS a theoretical LD50; an amount which will be lethal to 50% of individuals to whom such a dose is administered.  For the primary active components of marijuana - the cannabinoids - this level is impossibly high.  You'd have to smoke more than your body weight in high-quality stuff to get anything approaching this dosage. You're far more likely to die of suffocation due to acute pulmonary failure while attempting to smoke that much pot.  That's never happened, to my knowledge.  Which is not to say that no on has ever died from smoking weed.  In fact, the primary cause of marijuana-related deaths is cardiac failure, particularly in individuals with a prior history of heart or blood pressure problems.  Marijuana causes blood pressure and pulse rate spikes, which can be dangerous for those with susceptible conditions.
MisstreeNny
06-06-2005, 03:36 PM
I was just wondering.
fuck no, only smoking related ilnesses
i guess maybe POSSIBLY if you put a SHIT load, im talking loads into one big cake and eat it all you could get seriously fucked up, but no way could you smoke this much
MisstreeNny
06-06-2005, 03:40 PM
Ok, so just panick attacks. Got it!
Fengzi
06-06-2005, 04:33 PM
We have never heard of anyone OD'ing on dope. Panic attacks can't result in any heart issues and i doubt that dope can cause a panic attack alone. 
Although panic attacks don't neccessarily cause any heart problems by themselves they do raise your blood pressure. So, if you already have high blood pressure or other heart problems panic attacks can be dangerous.
As for pot causing a panic attack, probably not by itself. But, like a lot of drugs, pot tends to amplify any anxieties or emotional issues. So, if your already freaked out about something don't smoke a joint to get over it, especially if you have an existing heart problem..
Hydrizzle
06-06-2005, 04:33 PM
Yes of course you can OD on weed, I've seen it.... by friend was smoking one day... and suddenly he started bleeding out of his eyes after he hit a 6-footer bong.  Well, we took him to the hospitol, where he combusted in the waiting room, catching the entire hospitol on fire.  Yes, weed OD's are no joke....
mrdevious
06-06-2005, 05:23 PM
I used to get high anxiety when smoking too, it's quite normal. When you become more experienced, learn how to handle it, and get used to being in that state of mind, you'll feel more in control. as for the heart rate, it's also normal for your heartrate to increase.
Reefer Rogue
06-06-2005, 05:25 PM
Short answer: No 
Long answer: Write it yourself.
RidingHigh
06-06-2005, 05:50 PM
rofl
dokowitz4carbowski
06-06-2005, 06:24 PM
yeah, maybe get your blood pressure tested to be on the safe side. You should do that anyway regardless of wether you smoke a ton load of dope or not if you feel like that
zarathustra
06-06-2005, 06:51 PM
You'd have to smoke 180 grams in less than ten minutes to overdose.
and yes, that is a challenge.
BUZz UK
06-06-2005, 06:53 PM
right, where can i go to take this challenge?
RidingHigh
06-06-2005, 06:54 PM
yea no shit! rofl
sure I think one can OD on weed. I would consider smoking to the point where your not comfortable anymore an overdose.  Smokeing to and LD50 point is another thing completely.
You'd have to smoke 180 grams in less than ten minutes to overdose.
and yes, that is a challenge.
thats bollocks
its something like your half your body weight you need to smoke, but at the end of the day noone really knows cos its simply not possible, try OD on orange juice instead
NextGen
06-06-2005, 09:35 PM
I used to get high anxiety when smoking too, it's quite normal. When you become more experienced, learn how to handle it, and get used to being in that state of mind, you'll feel more in control. as for the heart rate, it's also normal for your heartrate to increase.
I get some anxiety smoking and playing fps pc games. It's so fun :cool:
smokingskeleton
06-06-2005, 09:42 PM
I had a panic attack on weed once, fucking scary as shit, my gf dumped me on the phone and i was fucked out of my face on some good bud!
Reefer Rogue
06-06-2005, 09:57 PM
I my gf dumped me on the phone and i was fucked out of my face on some good bud!
lol i could imagine it.
You holding the phone laughing your ass off talking to your friend who's sitting next to you. 
'hahahahaha yo she just dumped me, hahahah... hello? hahaha air hi five.
dokowitz4carbowski
06-06-2005, 10:08 PM
I had a panic attack on weed once, fucking scary as shit, my gf dumped me on the phone and i was fucked out of my face on some good bud!
i hope it didnt kill your buzz?!
BUZz UK
06-06-2005, 10:11 PM
lol
ScarlettCrush
06-06-2005, 10:14 PM
I read in high times that you can OD on weed but that it would take about 40 pounds for that to happen, so I think your safe. lol
(they also mentioned you would pass out when you where about halfway through the 40 pounds so therefore could probably NEVER actually od)
GfLoW
06-07-2005, 12:31 AM
I believe you can overdose if you smoke half  your body weight in less than 24 hours.
Stedric
06-07-2005, 12:36 AM
It would actually take proportionately 6 bails (as in hay bails, which are about 2m x 2m) of weed to overdose on THC. Yes, you would definetly pass out before OD'ing.
ScarlettCrush
06-07-2005, 12:55 AM
lol, I knew it was some huge ridiculous amount like that!
Zero Revolt
06-07-2005, 08:52 AM
Um that's a negative on overdosing on weed. From a proven scientific perspective it would take 40,000 times the amount of one blunt to kill a human being. And that's a fact!
Beeblebrox.420
06-07-2005, 04:04 PM
And that's a fact!
Um, no, it isn't.  First of all there's no such thing as a "lethal dose" of any substance.  The best we can do is state at what dosage fatality occurs in such-and-such a percentage.  The de facto standard is the dosage lethal to 50% of the population, listed as LD50 on MSDS sheets.  Secondly, we have no idea exactly what the LD50 for marijuana in humans is.  We have data for rats and mice, which typically call the LD50 for THC as being greater than 600 mg of THC per kg of body weight.  I did some math.  If we apply this to an average human, it means he would need to ingest 54,545 mg of THC to have a 50% chance of dying from it, if he weighs 200 pounds (91 kg).  Really good weed has up to 24% THC content, by weight, which means you'd have to smoke 227 grams of high-quality weed to get that much THC.  That's quite a lot - far more than any normal person could smoke in one sitting - but nothing near as high (ha!) as the figures being quoted here.  However, it's important to note that we can't apply these figures to smoking in humans, in any case.  The rat LD50 figures are only valid for an oral dose of pure THC and only accurately apply to rats.  The figure may be significantly different for a human smoker - we just don't know.  Nevertheless, it is reasonably safe to say that no human being can smoke enough weed to die from THC toxicity alone.
mono repin
06-07-2005, 05:39 PM
Careful beeblebrox, even with your 227 gram figure, you have neglectected time period. From the second thc hits your bloodstream, some of it is being processed and disposed of. So with that in mind, you must smoke x grams in x amount of time. Also, your assuming all thc goes to the user, which would indicate vaporization, which from what I've heard doesn't lend well to MASSIVE quantities of weed, as you just get too stoned from a little to make larger quantities worth while. Also keep in mind, smoking or orally injesting the weed, rats will only give us a rough idea about the human tolerance. There maybe some unkown factor making humans several times more or less vunlerable to OD. However, it is VERY clear, that OD'ing is for all practical purposes impossible, unless you were really trying.
BUZz UK
06-07-2005, 05:43 PM
I did some math.
no, you did some MATHS
Beeblebrox.420
06-07-2005, 05:48 PM
Careful beeblebrox, even with your 227 gram figure, you have neglectected time period.  From the second thc hits your bloodstream, some of it is being processed and disposed of.
Yes, which is why I said "in one sitting".
Also, your assuming all thc goes to the user, which would indicate vaporization, which from what I've heard doesn't lend well to MASSIVE quantities of weed, as you just get too stoned from a little to make larger quantities worth while.
Right, but we have to make that assumption, in order to get a decent first-order approximation of a worst-case scenario.  My point was to show that a lethal dosage of THC is a practical impossibility even under ideal conditions, let alone real-world ones.
Also keep in mind, smoking or orally injesting the weed, rats will only give us a rough idea about the human tolerance. There maybe some unkown factor making humans several times more or less vunlerable to OD.
Umm, yes, I said that.  In fact, I was very clear on that point.  See:
However, it's important to note that we can't apply these figures to smoking in humans, in any case. The rat LD50 figures are only valid for an oral dose of pure THC and only accurately apply to rats. The figure may be significantly different for a human smoker - we just don't know.
Beeblebrox.420
06-07-2005, 05:48 PM
no, you did some MATHS
Nah, I only did it once.  ;)
BUZz UK
06-07-2005, 06:05 PM
hahahaha, love it
LOVElife
06-07-2005, 06:08 PM
no, you did some MATHS
That is One thing I hate, haha, I WOULDN'T DARE HAVE CALLED IT MATH WHEN I WAS AT SKOOL, OR NOW, it was always MATHS!! OR BUCKETS AND HOT CANS IN THE GARAGES ND FUCK MATHS!
BUZz UK
06-07-2005, 06:10 PM
lol, yeah, i think i indulged in the odd spliff when i was supposed to be in maths....and chemisty, physics, RS, English, french, tech, etc......
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