Dear God my brother is dumb sometimes...

[Stedric]

Well my brother is only a year younger than me, but very different. He doesn't do so well in school and he's a big stoner, and he hangs out with a lot of racist idiots that I dislike. But we've been getting along better for about a year now, and tonight we were smoking up together and having a pretty good time. Then he said something which freaked me the fuck out and reminded me just how fucking clueless he can be sometimes. The conversation went like this:

M= My brother S=Stedric

M: "Wanna hear something funny?"
S: "Sure..."
M: "Know who Olan is?"
S: "No...who?"
M: "He's some kid who lives around here, he got expelled from school for selling crystal meth."
S: "I see..."
M: "*laughs* Yeah, I saw him trying to break into our house with a crowbar on Friday."

He then proceeded to laugh about it, but stopped when he realized my face looked something like this " :eek: ". So he saw some speed freak trying to jimmy open our front door, and waits until 2 days later to tell me. To make matters worse, he tells it to me AS A FUCKING JOKE instead of something to be worried about.

:confused: :eek: Please God let him be adopted...

[makor01]

yeah man id have to say if i saw some meth head trying to break into my house id be a bit worried.

you think he was serious or kidding?

[thewooman]

lol, mybe he was just pulling ya leg, making it up to see the look on your face lol.

must of been priceless :p

[NoosaHeads]

Its Probably because Hes Imbarresed Buy his freinds actions and didnt know exactly how to tell you.?
the Point is atleast He did.
what are you gonna do about it is the question.?.

[jenniferny2phx]

Well, it dont seem to me he was kidding or he would have said joking to him after, wow, is your brother that messed up on drugs he would laugh at something like that?? that is crazy!!!!!! so, now that you know about it, what are you going to do, do u know who the kid is now that your brother told u about him? thats pretty scary knowing a meth head was trying to break in, he might try again, what stopped him? the crow bar didnt work, well, guess not, thats good, damn!!! and your brother seen him and didnt do nothing??? WOW

[jenniferny2phx]

oh, and how old is your bro?

[Stedric]

oh, and how old is your bro?
He's only 15, I'm 17. Yeah and it wasn't his friend either, Noosa, just some kid he's seen around.

I locked all the doors and tommorow I'm going to the police, altough I doubt they'll do much. I have a big dog though, so I'm not TOO worried. Still...it makes me pretty freaking nervous.

[SomeDude]

I may sound very american when I say this, or rather, very Texan, but that is why we wear our guns around the house. Even my gramps is more strapped than a lesbian orgy. Meth heads...ugh...that's all i have to say about tweakers. We have deer season, and turkey season, and dove season, why not tweaker season?

[OPM]

It's cool your bro and you are getting along better. My two brothers and I fought like cats and dogs until we started smoking together.
Have you considered the possibility, however slight, that your bro might be experimenting with the meth himself and he was just gauging your response before he told you more?
Sometimes joking about something is a non-threatening way to divulge some info.
Anyone trying to break into my place would freak me out whether they were a meth head or not. Here, in Hawaii, we have a problem with smokable meth they call ice and it is a really ugly thing to witness.
Good luck with that problem...my prayers are with you...

[2600]

I may sound very american when I say this, or rather, very Texan, but that is why we wear our guns around the house. Even my gramps is more strapped than a lesbian orgy. Meth heads...ugh...that's all i have to say about tweakers. We have deer season, and turkey season, and dove season, why not tweaker season?

Careful, they have to actually break in, or be leaving with your property with no reasonable chance of recovery for you to use lethal force (unless of course they pose a threat to your safety, like if he saw you and started running at you w.the crowbar).

It might hold up in court, the odds would be in your favor, but I wouldn't risk picking off a kid from the OUTSIDE, that is just attempting to break in, even in TX. (more research is in order here, because it's an interesting situation. If you enter your home, and someone has already broke in, they are game for sure, but this is a grey area I think).

Anyways, Sted wouldn;t be down w/that even if in tx though man. I think he's more concerned about his brothers flippant attitude about the whole situation.

[ScarlettCrush]

impress upon him the gravity of the situation....with a board upside his cranium.
but seriously, let him know this is a big deal and if he is kidding he needs to quit.
I'd be disturbed too dude, nce my roomie picked up this panhandling junkie. (didn't know he was until he came over, never hit on guys in the park!) total pain in the ass and he kept calling for a week after, I was so paranoid he would come over some night and take our stuff.
Next guy to come over goes through a thorough background check...and frisking...heh

[jenniferny2phx]

Have you considered the possibility, however slight, that your bro might be experimenting with the meth himself and he was just gauging your response before he told you more?
Sometimes joking about something is a non-threatening way to divulge some info.



now that i read that, i might agree w/ OPM, u know people on that holucinate(s/p?) and maybe he wanted to see how you would react to that 1st, maybe he was just trying to talk to u and wanted to tell u, did u freak out at him when he told u that??? maybe that is not it, but when OPM said that, It made me think. because y would he have waited so long to tell u and it is not even his friend, y didnt he say nothing to the kid, maybe he was scared????? is he that type of person? i dont know your brother so it is hard just by reading it, ya know. well, best of luck w/ the police, let us know what happens

[NowhereMan]

we cant choose are kin
and i would find that tweeker and put some fear for his safety in his head

tell him str8 you know he tried break in and if u even hear him thinking about it agian you will bust his head open with a bat,leave him lay and be found with his SHIT in his pocket so he will wake up handcuffed to a bed IF he wakes up at all.

scary shit tweeker breaking in your home
and in west virginia he would be shot if cuaght,and the courts would go thru the motions and find it justifiable if you proved two things
he was breaking in your home
he was a meth head
and that be enough here to show u feared for your safety.
good luck with your bro,i think u will need it
peace

[LOVElife]

Your Bro sounds like a divvy mate, just keep at good old cricket bat in ya room, IF any dirty waster trys to get up in your shit, bat the cunt with the cricket bat!!

In England we can basically do FUCK ALL to people if they break into your house, the cunts end up sueing you, BUT I KNOW, that when some cunts come into your house, YOU JUST DEFEND YOUR PROPERTY! PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE!!

There is a very fine line, between people coming into your house and robbing you, and people coming in bashing you up and tieing up your family! GET THEM BEFORE THEY GET YOU!

ALSO YOU COULD GIVE YOUR BROTHER A CLUMP WITH THE BAT ASWELL, SOUNDS LIKE HE NEEDS IT!!

[BUZz UK]

/\ i've got a fatty baseball bat for that sort of 'protection' (actually its a bit of wood shaped like one, with electrical tape round the handle :D)

[LOVElife]

^Gotta be a Cricket bat man, baseball bats and guns are too american! Nothing like a Cricket Bat!

[dokowitz4carbowski]

Bothers, cant live with them....

Although, you'll find that in a couple more years, you both will get along famously. Cos you're just done with puberty (we assume) and hes just starting(or half way through it) so when hes caught up with you, we think he'll see your point!

Junkies like that are not good. Specially when they try to rob you! not good.

[thewooman]

i would'nt be able to sleep, but my dog ussaly sleeps in my room at night so if anyone trs to get in my room to kill me or somthing my dog wud fuck him up hehe

mans best friend. what kinda dog you got sterdic?

[hipEstoner]

Careful, they have to actually break in, or be leaving with your property with no reasonable chance of recovery for you to use lethal force (unless of course they pose a threat to your safety, like if he saw you and started running at you w.the crowbar).

It might hold up in court, the odds would be in your favor, but I wouldn't risk picking off a kid from the OUTSIDE, that is just attempting to break in, even in TX. (more research is in order here, because it's an interesting situation. If you enter your home, and someone has already broke in, they are game for sure, but this is a grey area I think).
not in florida,, they passed a new gun law

[Hydrizzle]

I think a nice warning shot into the dirt at thier feet with a 12 guage shotgun, then aim it at thier face, would set them straight. Noone wants a face full of buckshot.

[thewooman]

unless the wud have a gun??? and i think they proberly wud

[Reefer Rogue]

he tells it to me AS A FUCKING JOKE ...

Someone told me once that there's no such thing as a joke, only subcontious (i can't spell :rolleyes: ) truths. Wether or not it was true i dunno but i jus wanted to mention that to see if anyone else has ever heard that.

[Kid Dynamite]

M= My brother S=Stedric

M: "Wanna hear something funny?"
S: "Sure..."
M: "Know who Olan is?"
S: "No...who?"
M: "He's some kid who lives around here, he got expelled from school for selling crystal meth."
S: "I see..."
M: "*laughs* Yeah, I saw him trying to break into our house with a crowbar on Friday."

[/QUOTE]


i almost pissed myself when i read that line.

[Stedric]

He's not on crystal meth, I'm not going to have some sort of intervention with him. Well maybe a stupidity intervention. He just smokes a lot of pot.

And thanks but no thanks when it comes to guns, I know they cause more problems than they solve and like I said I have a rottweiler so I'm not too concerned.

[SomeDude]

guns are inanimate objects, they do not possess the ability to cause a problem, only irresponsible people do.

[dokowitz4carbowski]

well, as the crazy weirdo says in Micheal Moore's Bowling For Colombine "the pen is mightier than the sword, but you must keep the sword handy for when the pen fails'(or something along those lines) Take from it what you will....

[BUZz UK]

guns are inanimate objects, they do not possess the ability to cause a problem, only irresponsible people do.
heroin is an inanimate substance, blah, blah, blah, bollocks....

[FunkyMonkey]

The way we do it round here: Someone is breaking in to your house, wait for them to get in and then you OWN them. Call the cops when you are done with them and you feel like letting them go.
I dont just assume that dude wants to steal my stereo, I assume he wants to rape my daughter, and that is an offence punishable by death. Assume the worst and punish accordingly.
So my humble opinion...your brother is a spineless pussy for doing NOTHING and you should never trust him to have your back.


my condolances dude.

[Stedric]

guns are inanimate objects, they do not possess the ability to cause a problem, only irresponsible people do.
Give irresponsible people GUNS and they cause problems. BIG ones.

Volcanoes are inanimate objects too.

[SomeDude]

volcaones go off by themselves. guns don't.

I agree, irresponsible people shouldn't have guns. If someone doesn't feel good about having a gun, then by all means they shouldn't own one. I'm not trying to convince anyone to get a gun, and I don't want this or any other thread turn degenerate into an argument about guns or anything else, so I'll just say to each his own. As long as you don't try and take my guns away you're welcome to have any opinion you wish on the matter.

[Stedric]

volcaones go off by themselves. guns don't.

I agree, irresponsible people shouldn't have guns. If someone doesn't feel good about having a gun, then by all means they shouldn't own one. I'm not trying to convince anyone to get a gun, and I don't want this or any other thread turn degenerate into an argument about guns or anything else, so I'll just say to each his own. As long as you don't try and take my guns away you're welcome to have any opinion you wish on the matter.
If you use 'em responsibly and don't go reaching for it everytime the doorbell rings than I don't see a reason why you shouldn't be entitled to one. I'm for gun control, not gun abolishment.

[Etrain]

I may sound very american when I say this, or rather, very Texan, but that is why we wear our guns around the house. Even my gramps is more strapped than a lesbian orgy. Meth heads...ugh...that's all i have to say about tweakers. We have deer season, and turkey season, and dove season, why not tweaker season?

Tweaker season haha. Fuck sted, you need to beat that speed freaks ass man, for real...even if you're not into violence.

[Stedric]

Tweaker season haha. Fuck sted, you need to beat that speed freaks ass man, for real...even if you're not into violence.
Man, take a look at these pics...

Now tell me if you think I look like the violent type. :D :p

[KronicKing]

volcaones go off by themselves. guns don't.

I agree, irresponsible people shouldn't have guns. If someone doesn't feel good about having a gun, then by all means they shouldn't own one. I'm not trying to convince anyone to get a gun, and I don't want this or any other thread turn degenerate into an argument about guns or anything else, so I'll just say to each his own. As long as you don't try and take my guns away you're welcome to have any opinion you wish on the matter.

the peoblem is irresponsible people DO have guns and if they dont they cant get them at any time(i've seen 9 y/o selling crackw/ a handgun on him on cops[the tv show that shows a cop on patrol answering calls for those not in the states)it makes you an irresponsible person by turning your back on the fact that they can and will get their hands on them if they want,its not an insult and im not saying your irresponsible in any other way,just that one.

stedic,i would've gone balistic,i never cause anyone problems and never get into fights,but if someone tryed to steal the stuff the I worked my ass off for i would have maimed him.i aviod violence and trouble because im a peace loveing kida person(i dont even kill bugs i just shoo them out)but that kind of thing would send me off totaly that crowbar would be loged so far up is meth head ass he could open beer bottles with his mouth...

[Hydrizzle]

Personally, I'd hide in the shadow near my door, and when the shit-for-brains comes waltzing in, I'll put a shell right into his knees. Then, as he lays screaming on the ground, I will cuff him with my handy zip-ties, drag his ass outside, then call the cops, "yeah, I just kneecapped a guy and now he's bleeding in my yard.... your gonna want to send a cruiser over... maybe an ambulance"

The lesson here is: Don't fuckign coem into random people's houses unless you want to die/become handicapped. Especially my house.... I'm a light sleeper.

[SomeDude]

yeah, irresponsible people get guns and hurt people. irresponsible people also get driver's liscenseS and hurt people. Just because some people are irresponsible doesn't mean you should ban the responsible ones from their rights.

The problem with it being easy to get guns is a black market thing. High demand plus lots of laws against it = ubiquitous black market, just like the black market for drugs came about.

The only solution is for eveyone to do their best to foster a healthy society, in whch people don't want to use guns or commit crimes. Since we don't have that, I'll be damned if I give up my only effective means of protection from the irresponsible fucked up members of our society. We cannot continue pointing our fingers at guns, or drugs, or foreigners or anything else commonly blamed, our society must grow up and point the finger at ourselves and learn we must change our own minds and hearts instead of trying to legislate our problems away. Since this ain't gonna happen on a large scale any time soon, you can pry my guns from my cold dead hands.

MOLON LABE
COME AND TAKE IT

[RaoulDuke45]

no offense but all those names sound like viking names

[Stedric]

no offense but all those names sound like viking names
Ok... :rolleyes: I'm assuming you mean scandinavian...and there was only one name...I don't see your point.

[KronicKing]

yeah, irresponsible people get guns and hurt people. irresponsible people also get driver's liscenseS and hurt people. Just because some people are irresponsible doesn't mean you should ban the responsible ones from their rights.

The problem with it being easy to get guns is a black market thing. High demand plus lots of laws against it = ubiquitous black market, just like the black market for drugs came about.

The only solution is for eveyone to do their best to foster a healthy society, in whch people don't want to use guns or commit crimes. Since we don't have that, I'll be damned if I give up my only effective means of protection from the irresponsible fucked up members of our society. We cannot continue pointing our fingers at guns, or drugs, or foreigners or anything else commonly blamed, our society must grow up and point the finger at ourselves and learn we must change our own minds and hearts instead of trying to legislate our problems away. Since this ain't gonna happen on a large scale any time soon, you can pry my guns from my cold dead hands.

MOLON LABE
COME AND TAKE IT

i dont want to take your guns just to keep people from going trigger happy,i'm with stedic i'm for gun control(instead of the american[or any other] government wasteing money fighting the "war on drugs"{wich just means the war on marijuana with a few other things so it LOOKS like we're doing something other than keeping people from smokeing pot}they should concentrate it on destroying the black market for guns and makeing it much harder to obtain them it wont stop the problem but nothing will,it will just control it alot better than letting 10 yearolds get their hands on guns[i'm watching cops right now and they just caught a 10 yo with a loaded .45 and two rocks of crack] )i think if someone who is responceable and just wants protection from some guy robing them should be able to own guns,acctualy there are some countries that only let you own a handgun if you need one(i.e doctor,lawyer,things that a client could come in and shoot you over some fuck up)i think that is how we should handle it,but that is unrealistic,but we could asleast control guns and amunition(makeing bullets much much more expensive[unless you have a permit to own and carry a gun]opr make them completly unavailable to anyone without the said permit.i know it is a inconveniance and i know the respectable person shouldn't have to go though that but sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the better of the world

i dont mean to make this an argument or hijack the thread but it's the most available time to state my beleifs and if you dont want to read it take a second to move your finger over the roller on your mouse or keyboard and skip it...

[SomeDude]

we should control guns, but making them more expensive and making them harder for legal users to get does not make us safer because people who buy on the black market don't follow those laws. That would only serve to disarm responsible people and allow the criminals to be armed. I agree that we should work to destroy the black market, by I also concede that it won't happen in our society until society matures. A vast majority of the guns used in crimes are black market guns, and most of the gun control laws don't do anything to stop this.

I'm definately willing to make sacrifices for the better of the world, but not ones that aren't going to do any good. I think the sacrifices that need to be made are those that involve a personal effort to uplift members our communities from poverty and ignorance. I wholeheartedly believe that most crime stems from poverty and the dehumanization that comes from being impoverished. I volunteer more hours than I work and spend more money on other people than my own education. I can see attitudes changing from violent to hopeful.

You cannot legislate the problem away with gun laws, you must create change in society, educate and uplift the poor, and work for a societal well being that reduces the need for violence.

[KronicKing]

we should control guns, but making them more expensive and making them harder for legal users to get does not make us safer because people who buy on the black market don't follow those laws. That would only serve to disarm responsible people and allow the criminals to be armed. I agree that we should work to destroy the black market, by I also concede that it won't happen in our society until society matures. A vast majority of the guns used in crimes are black market guns, and most of the gun control laws don't do anything to stop this.

I'm definately willing to make sacrifices for the better of the world, but not ones that aren't going to do any good. I think the sacrifices that need to be made are those that involve a personal effort to uplift members our communities from poverty and ignorance. I wholeheartedly believe that most crime stems from poverty and the dehumanization that comes from being impoverished. I volunteer more hours than I work and spend more money on other people than my own education. I can see attitudes changing from violent to hopeful.

You cannot legislate the problem away with gun laws, you must create change in society, educate and uplift the poor, and work for a societal well being that reduces the need for violence.

good point,i'll have to say i agree there,but i said you should make bullets unavailable to anyone without a permit to have a gun,and you cant obtain a permit(even now if you want to carry a concealed weapon)if the gun wasn't purchased leagly,this wouldnt stop all gun crimes,it may not even stop more than 5% but 5% is more than none

[BUZz UK]

I dont just assume that dude wants to steal my stereo, I assume he wants to rape my daughter, and that is an offence punishable by death. Assume the worst and punish accordingly.
i see you in the park, smoking a spliff, i assume that you are going to mug an old woman for her purse to buy more drugs, so i kill you. cunt.

[KronicKing]

i see you in the park, smoking a spliff, i assume that you are going to mug an old woman for her purse to buy more drugs, so i kill you. cunt.

acctualy the saftey of my children(i dont have any but i'm guessing he does)comes before ANYTHING,i would do the same thing,it's one thing to steal a purse another to rape and possably kill his child,most of you know im not a violent person but i would be completly ruthless if my childs safety was even remotely threatend,that guy wouldn't leave my house alive if he even looked at my child or any of my family for that matter,i would feel horrible for killing him for the rest of my life,i would feel bad that someone lost an uncle,or a brother,or even a father,but if he is trying to harm other people to provide for his family instead of geting off his his ass and aplying for a job,im not saying he is any less a human than me but my family comes before all eles,i'm only 15 and i grasp that concept,maybe when you have kids and a family you will understand,but even now if someone came into my house and threatend my father or my brother i would kill them,and i wouldn't regret it no matter how horribly i felt for takeing anothers life