Cannabis Cultivation A God Given Right

[Zero Revolt]

I would like to know what you all think about this topic I am writing about to see other people's opinions on the matter as I have lived by it ever since I sowed my first cannabis seed. How can cannabis growing, breeding or usage be wrong if it is just a seed? Research concludes cannabis has been on this planet since prehistoric times and if you belive in a higher power then that power bestowed us with many different types of seeds for use.
The bible itself states that god has given us every fruit bearing seed to use as we see fit.Cannabis has a nutritional value in which provides us with more than a high. People for thousands of years have consumed cannabis seeds and cannabis buds for their high level of protien and have used the stalks for clothing. Here's a true story I'd like to share with you all. An amish man was cultivating a large amount of hemp plants in the United States in the late 1980's on his own private land. One day inside his farmhouse he heard several loud sounds from outside. In a fearful state he grabbed his pitchfork as most amish people do not belive in firearms and walked out of his normally quiet home to find ATF agents tearing and razing his crop to shreds and in that moment he raised his crude weapon in a defensive position and screamed as loud as he could "What are you doing?! Those are my clothes for this winter!" I know most of you will find that amusing but it is indeed very true. The real reason cannabis and hemp are prohibited is because the United States Goverment are afraid to make an ass out of themselves by admitting cannabis is not a real threat. If this country lifted the prohibition it would result in goverment job losses on a grand scale and every cannabis offender jailed would have to be set free and paid restitution for time served. Another reason is in fact that in the late 1960's the american cotton industry was pushing for cannabis and hemp prohibition for their own financial gain knowing for a fact that hemp was a better product than cotton and people who bought hemp clothing would buy less product because hemp clothes can last a person a lifetime or more. So my question is how is cannabis wrong when its just a creation of god? Thanks for taking the time to read my rant. :confused:

[canadianstoner69]

i totally agree 100%. If a seed was made to grow and flourish, why shouldn't it grow into a beautiful plant and produce it's nice buds. i think alcohol should be illiegal and not weed, i can be as stoned as possible and still drive better than alot of people. its a pretty harmless drug

[SomeDude]

There are plenty of "god's creations" that are not safe for human consumption. While I believe that using cannabis and growing it is not wrong, the argument that it is safe and beneficial because it is god's creation is a flawed one. Some of god's creations have other purposes than human consumption, and nor you or I are god so we don't know what exactly cannabis was created for. If you are christian however, there are many bible passages as indicating cannabis is ok for human consumption. Some interpret some passages as meaning that using any drugs is wrong. Some interpret it that way, some don't. Yes the bible does say in genesis that he gave man every tree that bears fruit and every herb that bears seed for our use, but it doesn't say whatever use we wish. Maybe smoking it is not it's intended purpose. To me that's a moot point anyway since I am not christian. wait...what the hell was i talking about?

Well, just rememer: it is not that which goes into the mouth of the man that defiles him, but what comes out of the mouth of the man that defiles him.

[ShamanicHippy]

yeah, while I try not to drive stoned (Im not a bad driver but I just hate to drive when im high) I think it is perfectly safe. if we put "in god we trust" on our money and govt buildings then why cant we trust what he/she made especially for us. I dont know if I beleive in god in a cristian sense but I know some one is looking out 4 us. making herb illegal is like making squirrels illegal. you shouldnt make something completely natural illegal

[Zero Revolt]

There are plenty of "god's creations" that are not safe for human consumption. While I believe that using cannabis and growing it is not wrong, the argument that it is safe and beneficial because it is god's creation is a flawed one. Some of god's creations have other purposes than human consumption, and nor you or I are god so we don't know what exactly cannabis was created for. If you are christian however, there are many bible passages as indicating cannabis is ok for human consumption. Some interpret some passages as meaning that using any drugs is wrong. Some interpret it that way, some don't. Yes the bible does say in genesis that he gave man every tree that bears fruit and every herb that bears seed for our use, but it doesn't say whatever use we wish. Maybe smoking it is not it's intended purpose. To me that's a moot point anyway since I am not christian. wait...what the hell was i talking about?

Well, just rememer: it is not that which goes into the mouth of the man that defiles him, but what comes out of the mouth of the man that defiles him.

I never said in my thread that everything god makes people should eat or smoke. That's like telling me that eating a dog turd is acceptable or that smoking a camel's ass is ok. I said that everything god put on this earth has a purpose not that I should eat it. And no I'm not religious but I do beleive in a supreme being.

[SomeDude]

I never said that you said that, i was simply saying that everything has a purpose, and we can not know whether the purpose of cannabis is to be smoked or not. I was trying to say that there are many herbaceous plants that bear seed that are not suitable for human consumption, and did not mean for my argument to extend to things like smoking a camel's ass or eating a turd. I assumed I didn't have to say that, I was wrong.

To me, when I read your post, it is implied that good made it = good for you, that may not be what you meant but it's what i got.

"I said that everything god put on this earth has a purpose not that I should eat it."

I read you post several times and you never said this, or i am a deficient reader.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, just explanatory(I added this becasue i have been told that I often appear to be argumentative and condescending in writing when I don't mean to be, at least not in this case.)

Anyway, I've already put too much effort in posting on an internet forum and I'm just going to leave things as they are, for good ill.

[mynameismike0]

i brought up this exact thing to my mom the other day in an argument, and she came back with "well god made poison ivy but i'm not gonna roll around in that. and god made skunks but i'm not gonna hug one." and i said thats exactly gods reasoning. he made poison ivy where it causes itchiness to keep people away. he made skunks smell to keep predators away. the poison ivy plant is eaten by forest animals.

i've gone to church all my life, and know quite a few things about religion/theology.

god never tempts humankind. i dont' know the reference for that exactly, but its true. god doesn't tempt, thats satans job. now, if god made the cannabis plant look beautiful, smell beautiful, taste beautiful, have smoke that has a pleasant aroma, and makes u feel so good, yet is wrong.... that sounds like temptation to me. satan doesn't have the power to create, so theres no way anyone can deny that god created the cannabis plant.

another argument made is that in the bible where it talks about being drunk, it should also be interpreted to mean stoned, or high on any drug for that matter. interestingly enough, any time the creation story is taught, christians are quick to say that the bible should be taken literally and is not open to interpretation. i've always been taught that in genesis, when it says god made the earth in 7 days, it really means 7 days of 24 hours each.

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[Stedric]

Well God put belladonna on the planet, that doesn't mean I'm going to drink deadly nightshade tea until I go blind.

I see you make a good point for Christian tokers, but I toke up because I like being stoned, not because I think God wants me to toke up.

[mynameismike0]

yea... but you could also die from belladonna.

i also toke up because i like being stoned, but i think god made pot for humans to enjoy, pure and simple. its an all natural, safe, effective form of entertainment. not everyone has to do it, just like some people (like me) don't enjoy eating tomatoes, some people just don't enjoy being stoned (not like me). i can't see a single reason why cannabis should be illegal in any form.

oh my mom also is more knowledgeble than i thought, and came back with "well god made cocaine..." which is not true. god created the coca plant, which, when chewed, creates a mild stimulant feeling. its when man took those leaves and synthesized the primary psychoactive ingredients out of it that it became a problem. i'd agree that it would be wrong for someone to start slinging tablets of pure THC that were potent enough to cause a fatal overdose if u took 4 or 5 of them.

[Stedric]

yea... but you could also die from belladonna.

i also toke up because i like being stoned, but i think god made pot for humans to enjoy, pure and simple. its an all natural, safe, effective form of entertainment. not everyone has to do it, just like some people (like me) don't enjoy eating tomatoes, some people just don't enjoy being stoned (not like me). i can't see a single reason why cannabis should be illegal in any form.

oh my mom also is more knowledgeble than i thought, and came back with "well god made cocaine..." which is not true. god created the coca plant, which, when chewed, creates a mild stimulant feeling. its when man took those leaves and synthesized the primary psychoactive ingredients out of it that it became a problem. i'd agree that it would be wrong for someone to start slinging tablets of pure THC that were potent enough to cause a fatal overdose if u took 4 or 5 of them.
God made opium poppies as well, enough of those, even unsynthesized, and your dead. But I see your point man, and for whatever reason you feel you have the right to toke, toke on.
:D

[mynameismike0]

yea... opium... didn't think of that one....

[Etrain]

Well...I love marijuana?

[mynameismike0]

but dying from something god made isn't the point. eating lots of things will kill u. its the fact that cannabis CAN'T really harm you thats the point.... i think....

[Stedric]

but dying from something god made isn't the point. eating lots of things will kill u. its the fact that cannabis CAN'T really harm you thats the point.... i think....
This is an ongoing argument, but overuse of Cannabis (as with overuse of anything) can and WILL harm you.

[xNoa]

I would like to know what you all think about this topic I am writing about to see other people's opinions on the matter as I have lived by it ever since I sowed my first cannabis seed. How can cannabis growing, breeding or usage be wrong if it is just a seed? Research concludes cannabis has been on this planet since prehistoric times and if you belive in a higher power then that power bestowed us with many different types of seeds for use.
The bible itself states that god has given us every fruit bearing seed to use as we see fit.Cannabis has a nutritional value in which provides us with more than a high. People for thousands of years have consumed cannabis seeds and cannabis buds for their high level of protien and have used the stalks for clothing. Here's a true story I'd like to share with you all. An amish man was cultivating a large amount of hemp plants in the United States in the late 1980's on his own private land. One day inside his farmhouse he heard several loud sounds from outside. In a fearful state he grabbed his pitchfork as most amish people do not belive in firearms and walked out of his normally quiet home to find ATF agents tearing and razing his crop to shreds and in that moment he raised his crude weapon in a defensive position and screamed as loud as he could "What are you doing?! Those are my clothes for this winter!" I know most of you will find that amusing but it is indeed very true. The real reason cannabis and hemp are prohibited is because the United States Goverment are afraid to make an ass out of themselves by admitting cannabis is not a real threat. If this country lifted the prohibition it would result in goverment job losses on a grand scale and every cannabis offender jailed would have to be set free and paid restitution for time served. Another reason is in fact that in the late 1960's the american cotton industry was pushing for cannabis and hemp prohibition for their own financial gain knowing for a fact that hemp was a better product than cotton and people who bought hemp clothing would buy less product because hemp clothes can last a person a lifetime or more. So my question is how is cannabis wrong when its just a creation of god? Thanks for taking the time to read my rant. :confused: yep im sorry we all know, the government knows but it wont change a thing at the end of the day :(

[smokejaguar]

Mj has been cultivated with only positve results for thousands of yrs.Who am I to say its wrong.
Besides,,God gave all the seeds and herbs etc..for our benefit.Yes,,belladonna and opium are poison,in extreme amounts.Medicinal in smaller doses.Its up to us to regulate ourselves.-SMOKEJAGUAR