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heartsurgerysurviver
06-02-2005, 12:41 PM
Hi all
I found this way to cure your plants and decided to try it.
I got a cooler, filled it part way with water, added some ice to get the water temp to 50 f. Cut my plants down and submerged them for 3 days, changing the water every day. After 3 days i dryed them as i normally do. Once dryed they are ready to smoke, no other cureing is necessary. No brown paper bags , no glass jars, no more waiting. The finished product is some of the smoothest smoke i've ever had. I used a glass plate to keep them under water. I wasn't sure about this method after i read it but i gave it a try and from now on all my plants will be getting the water cure. The plants , after 3 days under water looked like the day i cut them down, fresh and firm.
Any one else ever try this way before?
Any questions , i'll be happy to answer them
peace
heart

Torog
06-02-2005, 01:21 PM
Hi all
I found this way to cure your plants and decided to try it.
I got a cooler, filled it part way with water, added some ice to get the water temp to 50 f. Cut my plants down and submerged them for 3 days, changing the water every day. After 3 days i dryed them as i normally do. Once dryed they are ready to smoke, no other cureing is necessary. No brown paper bags , no glass jars, no more waiting. The finished product is some of the smoothest smoke i've ever had. I used a glass plate to keep them under water. I wasn't sure about this method after i read it but i gave it a try and from now on all my plants will be getting the water cure. The plants , after 3 days under water looked like the day i cut them down, fresh and firm.
Any one else ever try this way before?
Any questions , i'll be happy to answer them
peace
heart
Howdy Heart,

It's always good to hear from you ! I find this to be very interesting,especially if it cuts out the month long curing process..my gal ain't very patient..lol. I'm lucky if if she gives me enuff time for the initial drying..lol.

So..do you monitor and maintain,the 50 degree temp,over the course of 3 days ? Do you manicure the plant somewhat,first ? Or do you manicure them like you would a finished bud ? I reckon that afterwards,you store the buds in the same way you would with cured buds ?

Thanx for bringing this to our attention !

Have a good one !

Funken Monken
06-02-2005, 01:25 PM
Howdy Heart,

It's always good to hear from you ! I find this to be very interesting,especially if it cuts out the month long curing process..my gal ain't very patient..lol. I'm lucky if if she gives me enuff time for the initial drying..lol.

So..do you monitor and maintain,the 50 degree temp,over the course of 3 days ? Do you manicure the plant somewhat,first ? Or do you manicure them like you would a finished bud ? I reckon that afterwards,you store the buds in the same way you would with cured buds ?

Thanx for bringing this to our attention !

Have a good one !

Month long?!?!? Bliemy - it s humid down there isn't it!?!?

I manicure fist, then let hang, the trim again and spli the buds off after a few days of hanging. Works quite well but I do have to keep my eyes on tihgs - dont like them getting to dry too quickly, that aint good

Torog
06-02-2005, 01:33 PM
Month long?!?!? Bliemy - it s humid down there isn't it!?!?

I manicure fist, then let hang, the trim again and spli the buds off after a few days of hanging. Works quite well but I do have to keep my eyes on tihgs - dont like them getting to dry too quickly, that aint good
Howdy Funken,

Yup..it gits pretty humid here,but not as bad as south Texas..thank goodness !

So..do you then go on to cure your buds..or do you just dry them properly and well ? Normally,it takes the bud a month,to properly carboxolate the cannibinoids to the desired type..if this water-cure works..it would be great !

Have a good one !

Funken Monken
06-02-2005, 02:09 PM
^^^ You're darn right (aint just whistlin' Dixie...is that how you say it? ; )), it does take a while. AFter a week in my old wine box, I stick them buds in a coffee jar. Its a patience things I guess, but I'd be a bit wary about shovinga load of weed in water!

heartsurgerysurviver
06-03-2005, 12:55 PM
Hi torog and monken
I was leary too of putting plants in water, knowing how hard they are to grow nicely. Drying is a long process in this humid climate.
The water temp i keep between 50 and 75 degrees, its not to critical.
I trim off the bigger fan leafs, not much more.
The water removes the ferts, toxins and chloraphill from the plants.
The finish product looks more like purchased product than any other cureing method i've ever used.
The biggest plus of water cureing is the taste of the final product, it makes it the smoothest tasting weed i've ever had. Beside cutting weeks of the process.
I know this sounds unusual, almost stupid, but give a few buds a go in water and see how it works , you'll be amazed, i was.
Have a good one
peace
heart

blunt0429
06-04-2005, 03:22 AM
after it comes out of the water, how long do you dry it and wait to smoke it? a week?

Torog
06-04-2005, 12:14 PM
Howdy Heart,

I really like the idea of being able to git rid of the ferts and chlorophyll,quickly..it seems like it takes forever for the chlorophyll to break-down,and if you've ever toked a bud that wasn't flushed of the high phosphorous content(from ferts),you'll definitely appreciate a bud that isn't fire-proof and nasty tasting.

Thanx again,for this heads-up :) !

Have a good one !

Zandor
06-04-2005, 05:03 PM
If you want to remove the chlorophyll taste quicker stop feeding the plant (N) the last 7-14 dayâ??s before you flush. This will force the plant to use up then stored chlorophyll and speed up the curing process. FYI

sensiskunk
06-05-2005, 02:32 AM
If you want to remove the chlorophyll taste quicker stop feeding the plant (N) the last 7-14 dayâ??s before you flush. This will force the plant to use up then stored chlorophyll and speed up the curing process. FYI
Thats the 'method' ive always used, seeing as how N is the main chemical that distorts the buds taste. A friend of mine, who works at a hydroponic shop, said he stopped feeding the plant nitrogen the last 2 weeks of growing, and increased the P and K, to increase the production of glucose, making the buds sweeter. I havent tried it yet, but it seems reasonable. As for curing in water, ive never heard of it. I have a few questions tho, are the buds completely submerged in water, meaning they are actually "in" the water? Did u have any problems with mold? Cool temps like that are mainly used to seperate the thc from the buds (bubble bags), and everything ive heard said thc is best stored under room temps. It takes years for the clorophyll of buds to completely dissipate, if it does indeed ever fully break down, so doing it in "3 days" seems kind of unrealistic, no offense. I think i might do some experiments on some buds, so thx for the info!

dialtone420
06-05-2005, 07:10 AM
Everyone can spare a couple of buds off their next grow. Come on guys give it a try. I know betty will be getting some marijuana water sport action. Thanks for info mr badheart man. And the part about denying N is genius!! Your so right, damn, zandor you da man, you too sensi, thanks guys

BILL THICK
09-22-2005, 01:57 PM
what about the aroma of the final dried buds after curing them in water.? Do you loose the skunky aroma?

I will try a few buds. sounds interesting
thanks for the info,
Bill

redvetttes
09-23-2005, 06:52 AM
its so crazy ,got to try is

deprave
09-23-2005, 12:05 PM
do you leave them in a dark room? or keep them under the lights? as under the lights they will still try to grow(and produce chlorophyl) is this good or bad? what difference will keeping them in cool water make? ive never heard of this method and am expecting a harvest soon would like to try it out but worried about jeopardising my plants and would feel safer using the original method of flushing a reducing fertiliser

turtle420
09-23-2005, 01:16 PM
hearetsurgerysurvivor,

Hello... thinking about this process last night, I came up with some questions (ok, we've all got questions)... Ummm... what do you think of placing airstones under the buds? So air bubbles flow around the buds?

Hmmm.... this technique sounds very good... if it works. I understand you're (survivor) not an expert in the technique, you're just using it... but any and all info you could give us would trully help. Thanks!

-turtle420 :cool:

jimbones
09-23-2005, 01:25 PM
WTF is that submerge ur buds in water !All that will do is wash off alot of trichomes u smuck!

deprave
09-23-2005, 08:27 PM
i thought he meant submerg the roots in water im definatly not stupid enough to put my buds in water

HUGEBUDS
09-23-2005, 09:25 PM
ha ha u fools dry it the old fashion way its all part of growing

chonged
09-23-2005, 10:19 PM
turtle,

heartsurgerysurviver is from Louisiana so he aint able to answer any questions. The irony is....if he was growing outside....all his plants would have been cured this way

Hope his power gets put back on soon so he can answer his critics

kuulbns
09-23-2005, 10:31 PM
This has been discussed before, and it is possible! http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=15987&highlight=water+cure This is the thread. There is also a lot about it at www.overgrow.com check it out

lemonboy
09-24-2005, 01:45 AM
Some people swear by water-curing.

deprave
09-24-2005, 07:44 AM
does he put the stems in water and let them uptake water or does he put the bud in the water as if hed put the bud in the water it would wash of most of the trichomes

Neojedi
09-28-2005, 06:34 PM
Water curing is very common.I personally stop nutes at 14 days from cutting.Although, all the posts I've read on this, are more like a 7 day soak.

PotheadInMass
10-05-2005, 06:03 AM
Wtf is up with the page of ads...

porcelien
06-22-2006, 04:47 AM
Hi all
I found this way to cure your plants and decided to try it.
I got a cooler, filled it part way with water, added some ice to get the water temp to 50 f. Cut my plants down and submerged them for 3 days, changing the water every day. After 3 days i dryed them as i normally do. Once dryed they are ready to smoke, no other cureing is necessary. No brown paper bags , no glass jars, no more waiting. The finished product is some of the smoothest smoke i've ever had. I used a glass plate to keep them under water. I wasn't sure about this method after i read it but i gave it a try and from now on all my plants will be getting the water cure. The plants , after 3 days under water looked like the day i cut them down, fresh and firm.
Any one else ever try this way before?
Any questions , i'll be happy to answer them
peace
heart
Thank you heart,
I tried the 3 day water cure on my last crop and it is a thing of beauty. Three days in the water, and 2 days dry, and they came out beautiful.
Thank you again!!!
porcelien

OtterPop
06-22-2006, 06:13 AM
ive used water cure once and its a godsend

Who are all these people saying water washes off trichomes, ahh think before you speak kiddies!

mad5387
06-22-2006, 08:48 AM
Hey dude after you soak all your plants send me you water

Mikey The Pothead
06-22-2006, 08:36 PM
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OtterPop
06-22-2006, 10:24 PM
Hey dude after you soak all your plants send me you water


you filter it to catch any that fall off, but your careful and do it right, not a significant amount should come off

ToKnoIsToGro
06-25-2006, 01:45 PM
not to mention the fact that thc is NOT water soluble (at least not at those temps. It would take much more heat than that to extract them, as at boiling poin). Schmuck? Interesting, i believed heart meant to submerge the entire plant.

PRiMe4u
06-28-2006, 02:02 PM
Everyone can spare a couple of buds off their next grow. Come on guys give it a try. I know betty will be getting some marijuana water sport action. Thanks for info mr badheart man. And the part about denying N is genius!! Your so right, damn, zandor you da man, you too sensi, thanks guys
I hope I do not lose tooo many thri-chromes or THC crystals when I do this OLD re-cycled info. I heard long ago to stop giving fertilizer in the last feww weeks before harvest. I might let it "dry" to death, but that would let the dry stuff get knocked off too easily. I need to soak in water to flush out the NASTIES, I assume iz the best plan. I already have a water-filter "tobacco" pipe I made from an old glass jam jar with a metal cover. Lamp bolts at the hardware store are expensive, but WELL worth the price compared to the needed labor to MAKE from scratch. I like making my water dark and darker. I need to finish reading this and also see what the "flush" is. Iz it just salt/fert flushing ??? I've even heard of cooking the dirt to steralize it. We ALL need http://www.Hemp4Fuel.com because it is http://www.JackHerer.com 's 1938 Popular Mechanic's "The New Billiob Dollar Crop".

PRiMe4u
06-28-2006, 02:24 PM
WTF is that submerge ur buds in water !All that will do is wash off alot of trichomes u smuck!I know the best way to turn trash into stash iz to boil trash leaves and stems in water with butter, right ??? Get BAKED with a No-Bake cookiez. Why evaportate magic mind medicine to the room for FREE ??? Do NOT over cook cookies/cake or brownies. Make World's best butter and the green water gets tossed out, right ??? My Great,Great,Great.Great MeMe or French GrandMa iz the one to ask. Fuck the loss of trichromes. I'll just boil the green trash water after just to see if the butter would/could/should be greener. OIL of the ForBidden FRUIT from the TREE of KNOWledge is our friend. I have receptors in/on my brain made for THC. TYL

PRiMe4u
06-28-2006, 02:47 PM
not to mention the fact that thc is NOT water soluble (at least not at those temps. It would take much more heat than that to extract them, as at boiling poin). Schmuck? Interesting, i believed heart meant to submerge the entire plant.I thought that even boiling will not release that magic mind medicine from THC and other cannabinoids. It is only oil and alcohol soluable. The vaporizers give the temperature needed to evaporate plant matter below fire temperature. 212 degrees won't evaporate HEMP for Victory magic mind medicine, maybe. Don't ask me. I'm just a HempHEAD. Maybe boiling temperature without water cooling effect could vaporize more, but who cares ???

ToKnoIsToGro
06-29-2006, 03:14 AM
Interesting. I havent had any teas, but presumably, it is one method of ingestion. I am familiar with vapes, and the heat friction caused with a moist chamber is more than enough to get a good snatch of the good stuff straight from the horse's mouth. And pleasant tasting, they say.

Mnoutdoorz
06-29-2006, 09:52 PM
k so I'm confused the whole bud goes in the water? or just the stem?

Legalizdahurb
06-29-2006, 10:26 PM
You submerge the fresh cut whole bud, changing the water daily for about a week.
I tryed this on a few buds on my last crop. Its better than not curing but not as cood as sealing in a jar for 3-4 weeks.
I think it is worth doing if you need bud soon or want to smoke some whilst your other stuff is curing normally.

Legalizdahurb
06-29-2006, 10:33 PM
I found that real curing had a better taste and was a little smoother.
As for washing trics off. I used room temp water and tryed not 2 desturb the bud as much as possible. I found that almost none of the trics had gone.

OtterPop
06-29-2006, 11:26 PM
you guys are missing the point. With this method you can be pumping it with nutes all the way up to the day you cut, thus giving your plant the chance to bulk up just that extra bit if you see it as being worthwhile....

ToKnoIsToGro
06-30-2006, 01:22 AM
yeah, but you would be good to stop about one week before, so its only about two waterings. If u pump it full of nutes, you will definitely cause chemical burn. Not an advisable thing to do.

plastik
06-30-2006, 02:03 AM
if my understanding is correct, the original method called for a complete cure FIRST, then a water cure, then another session of drying out the water from the buds.

OtterPop
06-30-2006, 02:11 AM
So what your saying is that using nutes up to right when you cut it(MEANING NO FLUSH) will cause a burn? I was under the impression that if you use too much you get a burn....???

plastik
06-30-2006, 02:13 AM
In a water cure, you're supposed to lose most of the taste, but it will be a smoother less harsher smoker. I would think it would be easier to get rid of chlorophyl from a dried dead bud than a live chopped bud. And yes, if you aren't careful, you will lose ALOT of trichromes. Like that guy said he put a glass plate to hold them down..every trichrome that came in contact with the plate and the bottom of the cooler was probably broken off and either stuck to the plate or bottom of the cooler. I'd say if your going to water cure, you are going to want to use a tumbler to scrape off all the trichs to make keif. Unless you say, tie a string to a rock and to the stem, and let the bud sit there suspended if it floats. you also don't want the buds to be bumping into each other in the water, this is enough to break open/off trichromes. And you don't want to add ice to the water, you want to refrigerate it, because ice cold contact with buds can cause water inside to form crystals with sharp points, causing damage to the buds. It saddens me that most people probably lose 50% of quality just from incorrect handling/storage of buds..and they don't even realize it.

ToKnoIsToGro
07-01-2006, 12:02 AM
i thought u dry first, not cure, then water cure.

ToKnoIsToGro
07-01-2006, 12:02 AM
some say you can even skip the dry and go straight to water cure. It makes sense since you are gonna wet it again anyway.

trippruss
07-08-2006, 09:25 PM
makes the dope look like shit & it raises all kinds of drying issues relating to mold & what not.

trippruss
07-08-2006, 09:57 PM
makes the dope look like shit & it raises all kinds of drying issues relating to mold & what not.

trippruss
07-08-2006, 09:58 PM
sorry about dbl post

PsychedelicSins
07-09-2006, 03:52 AM
I use an old beer cooler and some chicken wire and a cup or 2 of ice.

I place the water and ice in and let it chill for a bit.
I then place the chicken wire in so that it holds the ice down.
One by one i carefully place the buds in
Then i secure chicken wire to pre-made notches so it keeps the buds below the waterline.

This works for me, and when I filter out the water, there arent that many trichomes lost, and the ones that broke off, I smoke.

whitewolfofsc
02-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Water curing works! I tried it on some cheap schwag, and turned it into some smooth smoking, head warming stuff. Not as good as home grown sensi obviously, but it will make schwag into some good mids. I havent tried it on fresh grown weed yet. I plan to soak a few of my buds and see how it goes.

latewood
02-28-2007, 12:50 PM
I just have to ask...You guys ever notice that none of the mentors or moderators or really respected growers ever agree with this technique??? that should tell you something

BobBong
02-28-2007, 02:56 PM
I just have to ask...You guys ever notice that none of the mentors or moderators or really respected growers ever agree with this technique??? that should tell you something

....

:thumbsup:

dusto2k3
02-28-2007, 03:01 PM
I just have to ask...You guys ever notice that none of the mentors or moderators or really respected growers ever agree with this technique???...

Or even semi-alright growers.

spankey
03-01-2007, 09:46 PM
I have receptors in/on my brain made for THC. TYL

now your are the only person i have heard that from after 5 yrs ago i read the pshycology article about that. it had all the reasearch and data sources. but i will give a brief overview.

ever scince they have been examining the dendrite in the brain they found a nueral recepter that they had no idea what it was a recepter for. so it became a research project many many scentists worked on for 15 to 20 years with no answers. then one scientist found the answer. it was for thc.
he found that answer in 1998 he gave all his research to his 100 biggest sceptics. all but one came to same conclusion after working it for 2 yrs. the one sceintist that went against it only worked it for 2 months and said it is inconclusive can you all guess who that one worked for. THE US GOVERNMENT he was under federal contract to disprove the science. the us government also went so far as removing federal grants from the original researcher and 35 of the 100. and threatened the others to not publically reveal there findings or they would lose there funding and grants.

if this information gets proved and is accepted by the worlds scientists then marijuana can no longer be concidered harmful and it will force leaglization.

now what we have to do is make sure the sceince comunity gets involved and keeps publishing and advancing this agenda!!!!

now we have a leagle drug that is harmful to the brain(kills brain cells, damages dendrites, causes birtyh defects, and kills more people every year then the entire vietnam war. that drug is alcohol!!

sorry about going off on a rant and kind hi-jacking this thread but after i saw someone else knew that information i could not help myself!!


spankey

Tokudai
03-01-2007, 11:25 PM
I just have to ask...You guys ever notice that none of the mentors or moderators or really respected growers ever agree with this technique??? that should tell you something

Or they haven't tried it, or simply don't understand the concept???

savagepossum
03-02-2007, 01:08 AM
i have water cured lots of times and it was bought not grown and everytime i did it the weed came out great. lol i find it funny how bob bong thinks so highly of himself, doesn't even know what he's talking about.

whitewolfofsc
04-08-2007, 06:04 PM
I gotta speak on this subject once again. I notice that when a controversial or experimental idea comes out (ie. water cure or LED lights), there will be a whole LOT of talk, both negative and positive on the subject. But it will be only talk. We need to actually TRY and DO the techniques so that we will know if they are any good. I have tried the water cure and found that it works. I love the many who will down the idea, but have never tried it themselves to know just WHAT they are speaking out against. The subject of CFLs used to be bad in this respect, and to some extent, it still is. Many who never tried CFLs will stand up on the fence and crow all day about how it would never work. But these would be mostly people who had never tried it themselves to make an educated decision. I know plenty of folks who have used CFLs and grown good weed. I know that the water cure does work and produces stronger, smoother herb (in some cases, too smooth). The jury is still out on LED lighting, but we do have a few adventurous souls on these boards who are using them as suplimental lighting. Nobody has yet reported on the use of a ground rod and a metal "antenna plate" to put voltage to the soil to grow plants with no or low light. I personally would like to do some research into that in the near future. My point is that these boards represent the forefront of cannabis growing technology and techniques. We need to TRY new things and THEN say whether they are good or bad techniques to use. That is how new techniques become the standard in the future. Let's not be closed minded, but rather strive to upgrade the art. Uneducated naysayers are detrimental to progress... hasn't the use of psychedelics opened your minds to this fact yet???!

Peace,
White Wolf

Links
04-08-2007, 08:21 PM
Does this really work just cut the plant down and keep it submerged in 50 degree water for three days and 2 days drying any one else try this i would need a few people to tell me they tried it before i did it

JackdaWack
04-08-2007, 10:26 PM
It works. lol. people do it all the time, u can expect to get less yeild, but an extremely smooth smoke.

whitewolfofsc
04-09-2007, 04:06 AM
The method that I tried was a small batch, just for a test. I took a metal "tea ball" and placed 3 buds of mexican schwag in it. I dropped it into a large coffee cup of water and let it soak for two days, and I shook the tea ball around a few times over this time, as well as changed the water once. . By the second day, you could smell the stench off the water, and it was a brownish green. I removed the soaked and plumped buds and set them on top of a paper towel and left it on top of the tv to warm. In less than a day the buds were dry and looked dark brown/green/black. They were also a bit crumbly once you touched them. I tried some out and it was SMOOTH. I mean like there was not much weed flavor at all, not even much of a burning taste at all. This is where the fun comes in. You will think that you aren't hitting for crap because the smoke is so mild BUT it will knock you for a loop, compared to the quality it was before. This is a good way to go in making schwag more potent. As for dank, I like the flavor and strength so much that I wouldldn't really want to ruin the flavor of it, but what a strength it would have. It is like making a mild grade of hash... you have less vegetable matter left, with the same amount of THC that it originally had. This makes for a higher percentage of THC by weight.

Peace,
White Wolf

guerillagrowerz
04-28-2007, 10:36 PM
water won't take the tricomes off. Or at least they shouldn't. I am pretty sure it won't, especially if it is cold water.

Cyclonite
04-30-2007, 03:39 PM
I water cured part of my last grow....it will lose some of the sent and the yield is less but the THC content remains the same so in effect its more potent bud.

Yes it is super smooth and the buds form up real nice....very dense and very clean smoke.

I find this to be ideal for medical grows since you flush out all of the nasties or you can fert till the very end upping your harvest and still end up with good flushed bud. It will lose bag appeal but thats about it....it turns slightly darker and gets real nice and dense.

Dont knock it till you try it.

Just lay the buds out in 1 layer in a cooler or something and fill it, dont mix them just let them be then dump the water through the bung and refill. The air dry doesnt take very long that way.

Earthy Dank
05-11-2007, 01:29 AM
Water curing is cool but it takes away too much taste to really have any practical use for good weed. Its a great technique for a shit grow or mids...

invision
06-30-2007, 09:09 PM
well i tell you what guys i have 5 plants coming down tonight and will water cure one plant and air dry and jar cure the rest of them, i had this idea in mind a few months ago deciding how ill do it plus i need some for the 4th of july.

tell you how it goes

invision
07-02-2007, 08:43 PM
the water cure plant smells like sweet MJ already when i change out the water and is also shrinking in size as i expected it too, so far it looks good and think this will be a fast way to get some quick herb.

OMG!!
07-03-2007, 05:16 PM
Umm wat do you do if the leaves on a plant wilter after it being transported? ( nothing to do with the topic )

stinkyattic
07-03-2007, 05:38 PM
Umm wat do you do if the leaves on a plant wilter after it being transported? ( nothing to do with the topic )
this is v.2 of OMG!!'s adventures in threadjacking... I'm off to find v.3... :D

princedapimp4
07-09-2007, 08:54 PM
i had a buddy who water cured a plant of strawberry cough using this method and it ruined the taste/smoke/high. not worth it

invision
07-15-2007, 07:26 PM
well i gave it a try and just didnt like it, the plant did look like it had 200 times the trichromes after she shrunk but the look and taste of the bud wasnt all that good, it appeared very brown like brick weed, didnt taste like much of anything, the high was just ok, the air dried plants looked,smelled,and gave a way better high.

chaliceburn
07-16-2007, 04:52 AM
I propose that the 'high' is determined before one ever lights the weed, being that 'the high' itself is subjective.

For example someone who wants a non-scrog non-CF grow to not be as good as a 1k HPS scrog will make it so, and vice versa. Not exactly the scientific method.

Although I don't understand the logic of soaking buds (or whole plants) in water, I hold my judgment until I can truly say "Damn that was some mean shit!", taking into account other variables such as tolerance and mood and thereafter am informed of the curious curing method.

Of course, that would be subjective too.

Also anything that detracts from that lovely marijuana smell/taste would also make my subjective high a little less, so that would be a minus if true, and that's something that's not nearly as subjective as the 'the high'.

________________

a clean bong is a sign of a sound mind

whitewolfofsc
07-17-2007, 04:42 PM
I agree there mostly. My opinopn is that water curing does make the weed stronger, but it loses so much of the taste and smell that It takes away from the experience for those of us who like the flavor of weed. It makes schwagg weed stronger, and would be great for newbies, who maybe dont like the strong smell or taste of weed so much, but want the high.

Peace,
White Wolf

Earthy Dank
07-18-2007, 04:53 PM
I propose that the 'high' is determined before one ever lights the weed, being that 'the high' itself is subjective.

For example someone who wants a non-scrog non-CF grow to not be as good as a 1k HPS scrog will make it so, and vice versa. Not exactly the scientific method.

Although I don't understand the logic of soaking buds (or whole plants) in water, I hold my judgment until I can truly say "Damn that was some mean shit!", taking into account other variables such as tolerance and mood and thereafter am informed of the curious curing method.

Of course, that would be subjective too.

Also anything that detracts from that lovely marijuana smell/taste would also make my subjective high a little less, so that would be a minus if true, and that's something that's not nearly as subjective as the 'the high'.

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a clean bong is a sign of a sound mind

wtf are you talking about?

maarty10
05-04-2008, 12:39 PM
trichomes do not wash off in water unless the temperature is very high. trichomes are water insoluble. so long as the buds are handled carefully and gently trichomes will not come off.

maarty10
05-04-2008, 12:47 PM
you are right that the potential of the high is predetermined. the point of the water cure is to leech out of the buds ferts, sugars, chlorophile by osmosis (grd 9 chemistry). when the bud has dried it will weigh less because of this. this means that the result is the same amount of trichomes in a more concentrated smoke or vape with far less non desireable elements. as for the fragrance of aromatics; that exists in the trichomes. A second way of doing the water cure is to immerse dried buds in water. i use a sealed mason jar, changing the water ever other day for a week. the resulting bud, after drying, has the colour of chocolate. very yummy.

maarty10
05-04-2008, 12:50 PM
respectfully, um, water it?

Revanche21
05-06-2008, 05:18 PM
you are right that the potential of the high is predetermined. the point of the water cure is to leech out of the buds ferts, sugars, chlorophile by osmosis (grd 9 chemistry). when the bud has dried it will weigh less because of this. this means that the result is the same amount of trichomes in a more concentrated smoke or vape with far less non desireable elements. as for the fragrance of aromatics; that exists in the trichomes. A second way of doing the water cure is to immerse dried buds in water. i use a sealed mason jar, changing the water ever other day for a week. the resulting bud, after drying, has the colour of chocolate. very yummy.

Easy to think it got 'stronger' because its more high per weight.

but the amount of THC does not change before or after, if anything, it would be less THC IF trichomes happened to get brushed off or broken while handling.

SimonMakus
05-07-2008, 04:58 AM
Guys, this thread is almost a year old! Let it go! :jointsmile:

kronikilla
05-17-2008, 03:38 PM
if you wanna smoke your plant fast you can use the water cure method but i dont recommend doin it to your lot before ya try it out. I myself dont care for it. i think it makes the bud smell and taste crappy, but it is smooth. i say let your girls cure the long way. all good things take time :hippy:

Hennessy1414
06-21-2008, 07:43 AM
i have water cured lots of times and it was bought not grown and everytime i did it the weed came out great. lol i find it funny how bob bong thinks so highly of himself, doesn't even know what he's talking about.

yep yep yep^ u kno waz up bro! :rastasmoke:

budwheizzah
06-23-2008, 08:56 PM
I have an interesting (and comical) proposition...

After water-curing a bud, has anyone tried feeding the resulting water to a living plant? I figured I'd try this... A sort of "cannibalism" feeding for cannabis (hey, they do it with beef lol)... I've no means of checking the properties of the resulting liquid, so I just plan on trying a bit on a few plants to see if there's any difference at all.

If someone out there can save me the time and rule out my idea, big thanks. Otherwise, if someone's ever tried this or analyzed the resulting liquid from water curing, I'd like to hear from you!

PS: The only reason why I hold onto this idea is because, if this product were efficient, no fertilizer maker could produce it given it's cannabis-based! So even if it is effective, it can't be on the market. Why not try.

JaySin
07-03-2008, 12:09 AM
I'm trying this method right now. So in 5 or so day I'll be back with a smoke report.

fishbonez
07-09-2008, 08:00 PM
I can certainly understand the sentiment of those who like to smoke not wanting to use this method. For those who do not smoke and prefer to ingest (cannabutter, GD, etc), this may be a very good method for removing the unwanted flavors/nasties that canna-chefs don't care for.

I'll be curious to give this a try...

Hennessy1414
07-09-2008, 08:45 PM
I can certainly understand the sentiment of those who like to smoke not wanting to use this method. For those who do not smoke and prefer to ingest (cannabutter, GD, etc), this may be a very good method for removing the unwanted flavors/nasties that canna-chefs don't care for.

I'll be curious to give this a try...

first posy knos waz good! whattup bro!:rastasmoke:

JaySin
07-22-2008, 03:34 AM
I used this method and it worked wonders. You can see what comes out of the plant just by looking at the water after a day. My last grow produced some very harsh bud, but this method made it very smooth and pleasent in just a few days. It was some bag seed so I wasn't concerned about preserving taste. Although it still did have a minor pleasent taste to it.

SouthernGuerilla
07-23-2008, 07:13 PM
I used this method and it worked wonders. You can see what comes out of the plant just by looking at the water after a day. My last grow produced some very harsh bud, but this method made it very smooth and pleasent in just a few days. It was some bag seed so I wasn't concerned about preserving taste. Although it still did have a minor pleasent taste to it.

Thanks for the update.

Teazintoo
08-18-2008, 09:39 PM
THis seems to be a hard sell,so I'm dedicating a plant to this water cure.These people seem to be sincere,unless they're all out to get us.:eek:

purplefairy
10-04-2008, 01:28 AM
Harvested my first grow of medical for my hubbie two days ago, can I still water cure? If not whats the best way to cure? Thx to all!

incubus34
10-26-2008, 08:29 PM
My circumstances make it impossible to dry and cure in the traditional method and I have poor strains to choose from, so I'm not concerned about loss of flavor or aroma. I also suffer headaches that are exacerbated by smoking improperly dried and cured bud... which most is.

This method works for me and this is how I do it. Keep in mind it is gentler on the buds, faster, smoother, and more subtle... and typically produces a more potent product.

I use distilled water or R/O water and keep it cool for the buds. Completely but gently submerge buds so no air can get access to the wet buds. Why? Mold prevention!

After a couple days the water turns a cloudy green-brown color and imparts the odor of the plants.

Keep the lid off the container so evaporation can occur and gently, gently replace the water daily for 7 days. Do not agitate buds. After a full week submerged, they can be quickly dried with a food dehydrator on its lowest setting in around five hours.

Traditionally dried and cured bud = good aroma and taste, possibly weak or harsh if improperly dried and cured; 4-6 weeks drying and curing time.

Water cured bud = smooth smoke, less aroma and taste; 8 days curing and drying.

I wouldn't do this on a variety or strain that is known for taste and aroma like Diesel or Blueberry. Save it for those strains that don't smell or taste great, but have a harsh disposition.

More info:

Water Curing - Cannabis Culture Forums (http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1098062&fpart=2)

guerillagrowerz
10-30-2008, 12:48 AM
I'm going to try this and tell how it works

flyingimam
06-02-2010, 07:35 AM
my bad for resurrecting an old thread, but wanted to give this method a two thumbs up:thumbsup::thumbsup:, and i'm talkin this method works even with a badly cured/flushed dry buds as well as freshly harvested stuff as reported.

just received some badly flushed, cured bud which gave me and my buddy a real bad headache just after even 1 hit and left a black ash in the bowl, everytime we tried. we dropped them in a bowl of water for like 5 days, changin water every 12 hours >>> we basically performed a successful rescue mission on a highly nute-saturated dry bud which otherwise would have been a total waste going to garbage. may lord bless the internetz and all of yall who share your knowledge n skills!:D

oh and may i add, the bud becomes more potent per weight of it due to loss of certain material and thus part of the weight.
it now DOES burn with a MUCH whiter ash and the taste is just gone, the smoothest smoke, yet very strong hits! i should also say, the water became literally green river-like color with a sharp stink, its somewhat of a plant smell mixed with a real weird n sharp chemical odor, i cannot relate it to any other smell to make it clearer though.

only downside: loss of weight, but i rather perform loss limitation when i have already chipped out for it and smoke less, yet better and smokable bud, than throw away shitty stuff or just keep gettin migraines.

based on this experiment, I can now be sure that this works much the same way for fresh bud, however, LOSS OF WEIGHT should be considered as a downside. i dont personally mind it

GATXBUCK
01-01-2014, 02:57 AM
Looks like this thread gets rehashed about every 2-3 years and its due...I was considering trying a pint jar of each of my first 2 plants with the water cure but after reading so many good things about it today in several forums & blogs and not one complaint I may go 50/50 air/water cure.I'm about 58 days in flower so I will be hackin something any minute now.Has anyone else tried water curing lately & how did it turn out?I will update my results.

Hotshot123
01-01-2014, 02:04 PM
Just so you will know, that discolor ration in the water is mostley THC. If you bring the water down to 32 degrees, it will take all the THC off the plants. Google, how to make bubble hash, and watch some vidio's. Good luck, and happy growing.

tlranger
01-01-2014, 02:16 PM
[quote=Hotshot123] how to make bubble hash

Bingo!

GATXBUCK
01-01-2014, 04:19 PM
32 degrees?...Everything Ive seen says you water cure @ room temp,70 degrees give or take.Are you saying all the thc is soaking into the water and being poured out Hotshot?I think I'm misunderstanding you since as far as I know you cant extract thc w/water?One thing I know for certain is I just scoped a bud I put in water 24 hours ago and the trichomes look to be as plentiful as they were yesterday.I dried a bud I accidently nipped off last week and put it in a pint jar friday then I nipped one off the same plant (both about 3x the size of a marble) monday mornin to put in water so I will have some type of comparison as early as next weekend maybe.I really don't care about the taste of weed as long as its not nasty and over half my weed will be made into edibles,oils etc so If I dont lose potency this would be great for me.:jointsmile:

tlranger
01-01-2014, 04:37 PM
The freezing temps make the trichomes brittle, and they break off with agitation and can be filtered out.

GATXBUCK
01-01-2014, 04:47 PM
OK, yall are talking about making bubble hash,had me confused for a minute.I realize there are about as many varying opinions on this as there are a holes but what would you recommend the ratio of cloudy/amber triches for a super silver haze and an ak-47 (high cbd)?With a sativa I like an energetic head(?)high as opposed to a nice stoney body high w/indicas.The ak-cbd is like 50/50 or 60/40 but I would like to get more of an indica type high from it as it will have to do for my night time smoke till the next batch is up (more amber = more body high ??? Thanx...

tlranger
01-01-2014, 05:53 PM
(ymore amber = more body high ??? Thanx...

I think your right on there