Changing to 12/12

[pskipper]

My plants are at about 15", My question is when changing to 12/12 will my plants double in size? When changing to 12/12 should I drop the times slowly to get to the 12/12 cycle or should I go straight from 18/6 to 12/12?

[fhydro]

You can change directly from 18/6 to 12/12, that's what i do, but sure they stretch, maybe not the double of size, but they stretch for sure.
Fhydro

[pskipper]

Thanks fhydro how much do they stretch? I want them to get as big as possible but I dont want to run out of room in my box.

[ProjectEight]

I read they will double in size of what they are when you change to 12/12 by the end of flowering and may grow larger if Sativa

[Zandor]

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There are two sides to that debate. One sayâ??s slowly decreasing the light over 7-10 dayâ??s readies the transformation into flower cycle. The other side sayâ??s cut to 14-dark 10-light for the first week for quicker flower. Then there is those that say just cut it in one day and let it go itâ??s just a weed. Iâ??ve done the slow and the 14/10 and found they both flowered about the same time but the 10/14-week did show flowers quicker by about 24 hours. The end product was still the same.

[pskipper]

Nice your the MAN ZAN before I switch too 12/12 should I flush the system with only water for a day or just switch from the veg. nuets. to the bloom nuets.?

[Zandor]

Your are correct the first time, flush for a few day's before you change nutrients.

[hippieshaven]

My plant doubled in size during flowering season. It stands over 2 ft. now. I wish that I had started flowering sooner because she is a space consumer.

[pskipper]

Thanks Zan I will do that tonight before they go to bed. These beauties are going to be huge. I saw my first 9 set(Leaf), I saw it forming a day ago but now OH my god its beautiful. Hey Zandor I have a question regarding the bugs that we talked about before. Well the leaves are looking like a bug has been chowing down. I looked all over still I dont see bugs. Is there a pestecide that I can use, that won't harm my plants?

[pskipper]

Oh yeah Zandor are you familar with the General Hydroponics 3 part nuets? (Grow-Micro-Bloom)

[pskipper]

Zandor I saw your pics on the KBS system. What exactly is it? It looks pretty serious.

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[Zandor]

Oh yeah Zandor are you familar with the General Hydroponics 3 part nuets? (Grow-Micro-Bloom)Yes I use those and have for many years. Advanced sent me some sensi pro to try and it worked just as well as GH and was easer to use but I am a control freak when it comes to my plants.

KBS is Killer Bicket System. It's how you grow trees and control 100% of the environment. You grow with high RH level, enhanced CO² supplement, precise temperature control and automation to monitor everything. I use the CAP extreme controller and they cost like 900 bucks USD each. Thatâ??s just the controller, and then you need a fogger to raise the RH level and a dehumidifier if it gets to high. CO² monitored and controlled to maintain 1800 PPM for 6 hours then automatically change the air in the room and do it all over again. You use A/C to keep everything at a constant temperature of 78f. A chiller to keep the reservoir temperature at a constant 68-72f. You change about 60 gallons on nutrients every 10-dayâ??s and flush for 2 dayâ??s between each change. You only use RO water too so you need to add back CalMag Plus with every water change (except for the flush). You use lights on top and all sides of the plant including the lower braches so some plants thatâ??s 3 or 4 lights to each plant. The idea is to provide 100% light penetration to 100% of the branches.
The setup is expensive like 8-10k and not for everyone but it does kick ass and grows some serous weight and killer buds.

[Zandor]

Safer Yard & Garden Insecticide, Safer Garden Fungicide can be found at most garden centers. I like Hot pepper wax spray.

For gnats the only thing I have found that works 100% of the time is gnatrol. It's hard to find so if you do buy the large quality.

Have you tried using a 30x microscope and see if there are any other signs of bugs? Normally a magnifying glass is fine but trips can be very small.

[perthkiwi]

mate try this next time when i turn mine to bloom i change lights to 12/12 just the lights about 5 days later add bloom nuts it works good because the plant is still in veg mode thay dont need bloom nuts straghit away just a waste of money peace....pot...patience :)

[pskipper]

Well I changed my lights to 10light/14dark the other day. I thought I would try that. Hey Zandor Everytime you found Gnatrol where did you find it? I've looked all over this god forsaken town can't find it anywhere.

[Zandor]

I ordered mine online the company's website has a list of distribuiters. http://www.valentpro.com/

http://www.valent.com/Product.asp?industry=1&segment=GR&key=11&src=pro

[pskipper]

Well had a few deaths in the family. It turned out that one of my mothers was a male, thats to bad cause he had 5 heads. Anyways I had a pump stop working. I lost a plant and about half of another one. It was a sad sad day. but the good news is that the other plants are starting to show the good shit. Keep u posted if i can get a camera over here soon. PEACE