Discrepencies

[Adlan]

I'm stuck at home off school and in bed because I have hurt my legs and I've been reading my bibles. I own a copy of the King James, and my copy of the Pentateuchs and Haftorahs. I 've been reading them through and I've noticed differences. I've been wondering as there is difference in these how can we rely on any book, we must go to the oldest original scripts, these are the torah as cept at the local synagouge. I was just wondering how any of the deeply religous people (and I include me) can belive there copies.
To find the truth you must go to the original source, and as god is not around to tell me right now, I'm assuming that the oldest is the most correct.
sorry if this is a bit confused, I'm on painkillers.

[Razer]

Howdy Adlan, here is an excerpt from an article which you can read at the following link. It answers the question on the reliability of the Bible.
http://crosswalk.com/faith/ministry_articles/1149441.html

M = Manuscripts. Since we don't have the original biblical manuscripts, the question is, "How good are the copies?" The answer is that the Bible has stronger manuscript support than any other work of classical literature-including Homer, Plato, Aristotle, Caesar, and Tacitus. The reliability of Scripture is also confirmed through the eye witness credentials of the authors. Moses, for example, participated in and was an eyewitness to the remarkable events of the Egyptian captivity, the Exodus, the 40 years in the desert, and Israel's final encampment before entering the Promised Land, all of which are accurately chronicled in the Old Testament.

[joker121]

As far as finding the truth goes man, I'd reccomend just thinking about all of the spiritual crap, and finding what you believe. There isn't anything really wrong when you thnk about it, unless you disobey your conscience, in which case, you would be going against what you considered wrong and right.
I guess that makes me a moral relativist, but it makes the most sense to me. I mean, if I'm an individual just like everyone else, then it makes more sense for me to have a different set of morals aside from what my neighbor has.
In my mind, all that religions really do, is they tell you what to think, and don't really allow for personal growth and exploration outside of their rules. All religions, except for cults really, were created hundreds or thousands of years ago, nad so their rules don't fit a society like ours that has created what used to only exist in the minds of dreamers, and science fiction.
It is fine and good to go and explore, and see what there is out there, in terms of religion, and all of the options, and ways of thought. I'm not saying that religions are bad at all. Many people have found profundity, and enlightenment in religions. Just don't get caught up thinking that you have to have a religion.

[david420]

i think its a load of crap. but u beleive what u want

[Adlan]

Razar: but the modern bible is a translation, I have no doubt of the underlying truth to the storys, but the wording can make all the difference. I just wonder how people reading modren versions can trust them. They have been through so many hands that they have been corrupted. for instance King james reference Thoushalt suffer not the witch 2 live, I (with my admittidly basic hebrew) read as posioner or asssasin

[Razer]

Verse 18 reads sorcerer in my New American Standard. I have several versions. But let me just start by saying that the versions issue is a false dichotomy. Several of the most modern translations, (post 1970), use earlier manuscript evidence than the KJV. Yet they substantially agree.

The critics should be ashamed that they are still using this warnout and utterly baseless arguement. You could not translate any literary work (even the cat in the hat) from one language to another using two completely independent translators and come up with verbatim copies. That is not the point. The point is... did the translator give a faithful account of the original. With the exception of some cults twisting it to their own doctrinal ends, by far most modern day translations agree and I would challenge anybody to put forth a specific incidence where one says something different than another. Not just using a different word, but in context conveys a different message.

Concerning the passage you quoted, I think the idea is about witchcraft and scorcery as they involve devination. Only God knows the future and He sets devination on the level of idolatry in this section. It is a serious offence to God. That doesn't mean that we are to go around killing any that portend to be withces today. Just as we do not offer burnt sacrifices in modern times.

Check out this link for a more articulate answer to the issue.

The reliability of the Bible
http://www.equip.org/free/CP1000.pdf

Reliability of the Bible manuscripts
http://www.equip.org/free/CP1001.pdf

M-A-P-S to Bible reliability
http://www.equip.org/free/DB011.pdf

How do we know the Bible is the Word of God
http://www.equip.org/free/CP1012.pdf

Choosing a Bible translation
http://www.equip.org/free/CP1006.pdf

Talk to you later friend. :cool: