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stoner spirit
05-20-2005, 12:40 PM
Does anyone know where I could find ancient and modern books in pdf format on line? Any information will be appreciated.
Thanks :)

Gumby
05-20-2005, 01:51 PM
hey stoner... i took a class in college on witchcraft and occults.. i'll look through my notes later on today and let you know. I gotta go to work now though... but I know have a lot of books nad such...

stoner spirit
05-20-2005, 02:52 PM
Thanks Gummy.

NoosaHeads
05-20-2005, 10:27 PM
You Mean Like the necronomican..?..

stoner spirit
05-20-2005, 11:13 PM
No, somewhere between The Grand Grimoire, and The Voodoo Sorcery Grimoire by Brujo Negro. I've had the Necronomicon read to me at one time, I thought it was a bit confusing.

Gumby
05-21-2005, 05:35 AM
Stoner... i couldn't find any links to anything pdf, and am not sure if you'll be able to access anything without going to school here... But I can suggest a few books you can read that will inform you with all you need to know.

Umm... everything I studied however was more factaully based and historically correct, such as the creation and practices... if you're looking for spells and shit pick something else. This is just educational stuff about the history of different religions and have a feeling that it's not what you may be after. either way let me know and I'll get all the titles and authors and such

stoner spirit
05-23-2005, 03:06 PM
The historical stuff is pretty good also, and its fasenating as well. I'll take the historical facts too. If possible, could you post the titles and authors of the books?
Thanks.

fuzzyblue
05-23-2005, 05:55 PM
these arn't downloadable but you can go to the esoteric archives (which is of course online) and read through what they have if you haven't already

Hydrizzle
05-23-2005, 06:43 PM
I am a necromancer for hire! Need to talk to a dead relative? $150!

Tell the futue? $200!

Summoning prices:

Lesser ghosts $50 per ghost, 5 for $200!

Demons $150 each, supplies are limited!

Satyrs Only $25 each for a limited time only!

contact [email protected] for more info!

stoner spirit
05-23-2005, 06:59 PM
Thanks fuzzyblue, I'll check out that site.

stoner spirit
05-23-2005, 07:03 PM
I am a necromancer for hire! Need to talk to a dead relative? $150!

Tell the futue? $200!

Summoning prices:

Lesser ghosts $50 per ghost, 5 for $200!

Demons $150 each, supplies are limited!

Satyrs Only $25 each for a limited time only!

contact [email protected] for more info!
What do these satars do for you, and what are they good for? Do they make good guardians, or do special tasks for you?

Hydrizzle
05-23-2005, 07:07 PM
They are half-goat half man, and they carry scythes. They can kill peopel for you, or do menial labor... however they will be sucked back into hell after 3-5 days...

stoner spirit
05-23-2005, 07:31 PM
Is there a large amount of information about the satars? What kind of offerings or sacrifice would you have to make to them? They seem interesting, although I don't need a satar to kill people, I just wonder what other labors do they do for you besides killing someone?
Thanks Hydrizzle.

NoosaHeads
05-24-2005, 02:49 AM
Stoner spirit I have a Book called. foundations of practical magic.by israel regardie.
its an itroduction into qabalistic techniques.
it sounds corny But it is actually quite good.
it has some great theurgy and spiritual devolpment excersises.
It also has a qabalistic primer and charts..
I dont know if its available in brail.?. but I thought I'd throw it out there for you..:)

stoner spirit
05-24-2005, 03:03 AM
Thanks, I'm pretty sure I might be able to get it on cassette through the Library of Congress, Recordings for the Blind and Dislexic, or the Texas State Library. If not, I could allways scan it with the Curswile Book Reader program after I buy it from one of the book stores. The only thing is, if you order anything dealing with magick from either one of those three places, they might get things mixed up sometimes.

Hydrizzle
05-24-2005, 04:15 AM
Well, the reason they are so cheap is because they are not really that big and strong, and they are sorely lacking in the mental capacity department. As for the rituals for summoning them, those are secrets for me and my clan of necromancers. If you would like to join, then come pick up and application (have your social security card ready!). We offer competitive pay and full benifits!

If you really need to kill someone, I reccomend the demon, they are much stronger and can shoot fireballs. The satyr will never be able to kill an armed man, due to thier stupididty and slowness.

Delta9
05-24-2005, 04:44 AM
Achilles drug Hectors body which was eventually was left. Hector still slightly alive, enough to feel as the vultures came. Poor Hector eaten alive by scavangers after his brutal defeat, eyes pecked out by sharp beeks. His body torn apart as the dogs fought each other for his flesh. Left to die like an animal as Achillies and his clan slowly tortured pigs as sacrifice for their victory.

Makes me wonder of my fate? Mabey to be buried to my neck in the heat of the Arabian desert and stoned by men with my eyelids cut out and then left still alive for the birds to feast on? What is my fate? What awaits?

Hydrizzle
05-24-2005, 04:51 AM
Achilles drug Hectors body which was eventually was left. Hector still slightly alive, enough to feel as the vultures came. Poor Hector eaten alive by scavangers after his brutal defeat, eyes pecked out by sharp beeks. His body torn apart as the dogs fought each other for his flesh. Left to die like an animal as Achillies and his clan slowly tortured pigs as sacrifice for their victory.

That's pretty fucked up, man. Gruesome.


Makes me wonder of my fate? Mabey to be buried to my neck in the heat of the Arabian desert and stoned by men with my eyelids cut out and then left still alive for the birds to feast on? What is my fate? What awaits?

Most likely, slow death from cancer or heart disease... but who knows? I guess if you pissed off some Arab freaks, they might cut your eyeballs out, roast the, and feed them to you. Whatever floats your boat, dude.

NoosaHeads
05-24-2005, 05:46 AM
Achilles drug Hectors body which was eventually was left. Hector still slightly alive, enough to feel as the vultures came. Poor Hector eaten alive by scavangers after his brutal defeat, eyes pecked out by sharp beeks. His body torn apart as the dogs fought each other for his flesh. Left to die like an animal as Achillies and his clan slowly tortured pigs as sacrifice for their victory.

Makes me wonder of my fate? Mabey to be buried to my neck in the heat of the Arabian desert and stoned by men with my eyelids cut out and then left still alive for the birds to feast on? What is my fate? What awaits?



Well Basicly you answered your own question..
what will the reactions of your actions be.?.

Euphoric
05-24-2005, 06:32 AM
HERES A GOOD LINK FOR YOU STONER http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/tomekeeper/index.html

(check out the links section it may lead to pure pdf formats)

Torog
05-24-2005, 11:45 AM
Does anyone know where I could find ancient and modern books in pdf format on line? Any information will be appreciated.
Thanks :)
Howdy stoner spirit,

Why would you seek out satan and his minion's ? Do you have plans on becoming a satanist ?

Simply having occult books or whatever format they are in,is an invitation to dark forces..your mere interest in them,is all the invitation that they need..to corrupt your soul.

Have a good one...

easyg
05-24-2005, 11:54 AM
happy happy joy joy :rolleyes:

Euphoric
05-24-2005, 01:11 PM
..speaking of dark forces, i have this book torog would love about summoning a "demon lover" wee..see with sex demons you dont have to spend all of that money on fancy dates, movies and stuff! have fun with this link kiddies... http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/cacodem.html

Delta9
05-24-2005, 06:00 PM
Ahh I think your right, and I will say, None of my actions will ever include having sex with animals, as was a common practice of satanists, pagans, and wiccans. The Jews said to the Empire No we prefer no salughter our animals humainly, and no fly or disease ever entered their slaughter houses.

Delta9
05-24-2005, 08:07 PM
I once considered Paganism, satanism, and wicca as religions, but I just don't believe in having sexual relations with animals, so I can't be a member of that kind of religious order.

stoner spirit
05-24-2005, 09:19 PM
I once considered Paganism, satanism, and wicca as religions, but I just don't believe in having sexual relations with animals, so I can't be a member of that kind of religious order.
That's completely fucked dude, where did you hear this shit from? Besides Pagans and Wiccans do not do that kind of thing. If you're going to bash somebody's religion, then be prepared to have the shit come back at you from someone else. I have friends who are Pagans and Wiccans, and I'm also a Pagan and damn proud of it too. We sure as hell don't practice beastiality, that's luny stuff there.

stoner spirit
05-24-2005, 09:40 PM
Howdy stoner spirit,

Why would you seek out satan and his minion's ? Do you have plans on becoming a satanist ?

Simply having occult books or whatever format they are in,is an invitation to dark forces..your mere interest in them,is all the invitation that they need..to corrupt your soul.

Have a good one...
Torog, you can learn much from spirits and other entities. I'm no satanist, and besides, satanists have their own magics and what not. Having an interest in the occult and Witchcraft isn't going to attract demons to you or corrupt your soul. There's no one way to do things, and their's no one true path or religion. Why demonize other religions and other people's Gods? That doesn't mean that they are not good, or they don't serve the forces of the light.

NoosaHeads
05-24-2005, 11:31 PM
Torog if you have a relationship with your Guide Or Guides They Protect You.
(you have to ask for their protection as they cannot interfere with your free will).
and just for your infomation I dont think I have read a "spiritualy influenced" Book That contradicts its self as Much as the Bible does...

Delta9
05-25-2005, 02:58 AM
I'm Afraid it is part of pagan religions to Have sex with Animals. I'm afraid so. I honestly don't know about wiccans though.

stoner spirit
05-25-2005, 03:22 AM
If possible, I'd like to see some actual evidence of that, if its historical and valid. Not just some crazy ass idea that somebody had made up just for bashing Pagans.

Delta9
05-25-2005, 03:27 AM
The Roman Empire. Thats one of the reasons Jesus came along, The government was being inihuman to prisoners, and paganism was the official religion. And before that the Jews Refused to sacrifice animals for food by the old Disgusting methods of the pagans. Because in the time of the Roman Empire people treated each other like Animals, They dident bury their dead they just left them to scavengers. They dident know how to slaughter animals properly, They would eat bad meat, raw meat, spoiled meat. I'n not bashing them. It is written in Hebrew.

Delta9
05-25-2005, 03:33 AM
Read Homers Illiad.

Euphoric
05-25-2005, 04:00 AM
I'm Afraid it is part of pagan religions to Have sex with Animals. I'm afraid so. I honestly don't know about wiccans though.

hhhhhaha (thats not true in the least) i am prescribing you less hearsay and more books..im also prescribing you to give me your stash for that comment, delta. thanks. :cool:

Delta9
05-25-2005, 04:29 AM
Oh man You have no Idea how many books I have read. But my hearsay is more from having been educated at a catholic college. I agree that Christianity is not a bad religion, but the people that run the church are a very bad people, and Christianity as is corrupt. I am not going to donate my money to some old bastard so that he can by a new gold ring and wear a 20 pound gold chain around his neck. But aside from that I still stand by my opinion that paganism involves Sex and torture of animals.

Delta9
05-25-2005, 04:40 AM
I'm not into pimping and gold so I don't like Christians. I'm not into niggerish clothing and rap music so I hate Islam. But It can be deduced from the old testament and the Torah that pagans were having sexual relations with animals prior to their slaughter and that pagans were eating spoil meat without cooking it.

easyg
05-25-2005, 06:08 AM
I'm not into pimping and gold so I don't like Christians. I'm not into niggerish clothing and rap music so I hate Islam. But It can be deduced from the old testament and the Torah that pagans were having sexual relations with animals prior to their slaughter and that pagans were eating spoil meat without cooking it.

that is one hell of a nasty ill informed, racist pile of shite :mad:

get an informed view from a variety of sources, analyse why people write what they do, who is it aimed at...what are its purposes, don't take everything as gospel

I'm presuming you're about 13 and have a lot to learn....if yr an adult then I am shocked and saddened

stoner spirit
05-25-2005, 07:49 AM
That's what I was trying to say to this dude.
Besides, who the fuck eats raw or spoiled meat in this day in age? Who screws animals, maybe the luny shits, and that post would piss off lots of people too. Goddamet do some fucking research before you go spouting off some bullshit about people's religions. You're not bashing anyone? I'm with you on not donating money to some ass that wants to use it for his own purposes, but the shit about other religions? Fuck man, you've got lots of learning ahead of you.
:mad:
Yeh, there's some corrupt churches, but that's with all religions, and other organizations. Sorry man, but that pisses me off. I've said that same shit to my family because they were forcing their wills on me, and I moved out because of that. When my mom came and woke me up one morning, she told me that I didn't know what I was doing with Witchcraft and Paganism. I told her that I didn't care, she told me that she would hit me, then I told her that it won't make a difference. That's to cut that long story short, I still resent that shit from them though. Sorry for the long post.

Torog
05-25-2005, 11:34 AM
Torog, you can learn much from spirits and other entities. I'm no satanist, and besides, satanists have their own magics and what not. Having an interest in the occult and Witchcraft isn't going to attract demons to you or corrupt your soul. There's no one way to do things, and their's no one true path or religion. Why demonize other religions and other people's Gods? That doesn't mean that they are not good, or they don't serve the forces of the light.
Howdy stoner spirit,

I'm glad that you're not a satanist,and maybe your right that I could learn much from spirits and other entities. I do believe however,that if you seek out the Dark forces,that they will respond..and chances are,that you are ill-equipped to deal with entities of such power..you could be overwhelmed.

As a Christian,I do believe that the only way to enter Heaven,is through Jesus Christ..Heaven is the highest plane of existence..the other religions may git close to Heaven's Gates..but they will not enter,until they acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God,and that He died so that we would all have a chance of entering His Father's Kingdom.

I don't hate other religions,except those that serve satan..I do support those who seek to do Good..and I pray often,that they will realize that they are on a false path to Heaven..they may git close..but they will not enter.

Have a good one....

Torog
05-25-2005, 11:40 AM
Torog if you have a relationship with your Guide Or Guides They Protect You.
(you have to ask for their protection as they cannot interfere with your free will).
and just for your infomation I dont think I have read a "spiritualy influenced" Book That contradicts its self as Much as the Bible does...
Howdy NoosaHeads,

You may be right,however,when I want protection for myself or others,I pray to God for protection,in the Name of Jesus Christ..guides are God's little helpers,on a lower plane than angels.

Have a good one....

Delta9
05-25-2005, 02:08 PM
Yea it is quit a a piece of racist shit indeed. Quite a nice piece if I do say so myself.
I saw this one muslim guy who had this faggoty looking white jumpsuite on, he looked like some kinda mormon Islamic hip-hopper, the biggset jiggalo I ever seen.

Delta9
05-25-2005, 02:28 PM
For what it is worth easyg, I am sorry I wrote that, using the words niggerish and jiggalo. I understand if you won't accept my apology, but I am sorry, and I will try my best not to write things like that again. Aside from writing on this message board I've never bothered anyone in my life.

Delta9
05-25-2005, 02:34 PM
And Your right I have no right to judge anyone by how they dress, their nationality, or anything. Ahh, the hell with me.

stoner spirit
05-25-2005, 05:53 PM
Howdy stoner spirit,

I'm glad that you're not a satanist,and maybe your right that I could learn much from spirits and other entities. I do believe however,that if you seek out the Dark forces,that they will respond..and chances are,that you are ill-equipped to deal with entities of such power..you could be overwhelmed.

As a Christian,I do believe that the only way to enter Heaven,is through Jesus Christ..Heaven is the highest plane of existence..the other religions may git close to Heaven's Gates..but they will not enter,until they acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God,and that He died so that we would all have a chance of entering His Father's Kingdom.

I don't hate other religions,except those that serve satan..I do support those who seek to do Good..and I pray often,that they will realize that they are on a false path to Heaven..they may git close..but they will not enter.

Have a good one....

Yes, dark forces will respond, but if you let them take control, then they already have you in their grasp. That's why I study methods of getting rid of those forces that come around from time to time. Even asking my guardians and guides will get the job dun. The dieties that have been demonized by some of the erly Christians... aren't demons at all. If you look in the texts of Salomon, you will find a number of dieties and spirits that have been demonized, such as Astarte. She's been called, Ashtarith or Atargatis, which are bastardized forms of her name. Even Ishtar is demonized, she's just like Astarte, a fertility Goddess, grate mother, and the queen of heaven. Read the hims to Ishtar, Inanah, and Astarte. Do some research on Cannonite, Aserian, Babalonian, and Finician Gods. You might find some interesting things, and besides those Gods have been here alot longer than Christianity has. I'm not wanting to cause a huge argument, but I'm just putting some facts and historical stuff out there.
Have a good one yourself.

Hydrizzle
05-25-2005, 07:39 PM
Howdy stoner spirit,

Why would you seek out satan and his minion's ? Do you have plans on becoming a satanist ?

Simply having occult books or whatever format they are in,is an invitation to dark forces..your mere interest in them,is all the invitation that they need..to corrupt your soul.

Have a good one...

LOL, that's a good one... supernatural forces and whatnot, lol. Yeah, some demon is gonna come out of a hole and eat you, rofl. Torog, you DO know these kids are either joking or posers, right?

stoner spirit
05-25-2005, 08:11 PM
LOL, that's a good one... supernatural forces and whatnot, lol. Yeah, some demon is gonna come out of a hole and eat you, rofl. Torog, you DO know these kids are either joking or posers, right?
That's funny, I could just picture that. A demon with four heads coming out of a hole and eating someone for having some books on witchcraft. Hahahahahaha.