Salvia User's Handbook

[justinsane]

Ok, so i thought id do the good dead for all and create sort of a helpful compilation of tips for salvia, new and veteran users.

ill start by defining Salvia Divinorum
Salvia Divinorum is a LEGAL drug, it can be purchased as dried leaves, or extracts of the chemical Salvinorin. extracts are far more potent than the leaves, but the leaves will give you the effect. extracts come in 5x, 10x, 15x, 20x, and my personal favorite... 40x.
Salvia is NOT a party drug, its NOT for just trippin your brain out and geekin out. Salvia takes you away from your body, and you explore the other side.

the Effects of salvia
the effects of salvia divinorum may differ from person to person.. but the most common effects are:
much more sensitive skin, increased body temperature, and uncontrollable laughter
and for the good part. a sense of realistic disconnection from your body and consious. you are taken to another world, and if you close your eyes... you are taken to another place. things happen, and for me. i realize everything that remains unanswered.

How to use Salvia
ok, pay attention to this one.. cuz everyone on this board is sick of telling the same method to new users over and over

ok, for me, and many others. salvia didnt work the first time.
its safe to use leaves for the first 5-10 experiences. leaves give you a taste of what it can do... then move up to any extract below 20x. these WILL give you the full effect of the divinors sage.
i made the mistake of doing 20x in my 2nd encounter, and i panicked. but now i use 40x here and there and crazy things happen.
Smoking it: pack that bowl FULL! and pack it TIGHT..
MOST IMPORTANT RULE: hold the flame on the salvia the entire time your inhaling.
its pretty necessary to use a water bong for this, as salvia smoke is pretty damn harsh and it doesnt help that you have to hold the lighter over it, it just makes it hotter.

Setting:
make sure you have no dangerous objects around, because sometimes you move around and stuff.. some people say have a sober sitter there to protect you... ive never had one. so thats all i can say about that

Experiences
you tell me... haha

hope this helps some of the wonderers.... any other additions, suggestions, expierences will be helpful to anyone willing to try, or educate themselves on the most intense hallucinagen out there..

and remember. this is from MY experience.. everyone is different.

enjoy

[sharpezor]

Why is it legal? I seen the salvia trip videos. Can u pick it up @ like a walmart or something? Is the high simular to weed?

also, if it is so good, why dont people use this instead of weed?

[JFisher]

You can get it at most smoke shops, esp. the extract form. I tried 15x my first time, scared the living hell out of me. Weed and salvia are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Firstly, salvia is a very intense hallucinogen. My first time, I though I was a door swirling through a vortex where everything I knew to be real no longer existed. I didn't remember who I was, or that I even existed (let alone the fact I was only tripping.) I couldn't move, I could barely talk. I mostly mumbled incoherently and swayed back and forth wiggling my fingers in the air. It only lasts about 10-15 minutes during the full effects, and has about a 30-60 minutes afterglow. It is completely different from shrooms or other hallucinogens in the fact that you are immediately thrown into a different dimension (if you do it right). And I will repeat what has been said over and over, THIS IS NOT A PARTY DRUG.

Salvia should be used in a quiet environment, play some low mellow music, and make sure the room isn't too bright. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A SITTER. Trust me, you don't want to trip out and drop your piece, or start moving around. The salvia kicks in very quickly (a matter of seconds with an extract). The second time I tried it, I ran out to my friend's balcony thinking I was some sort of god. Probably not the safest place to be.

If you're using plain leaf, a torch lighter is best, and you'll need a couple bowls. If you're using extract, the lighter doesn't matter so much, just keep the flame on the salvia. I have also read that using a bong with no water in it is best, as the active ingredient Salvinorin A is water soluble, while weed is not. This means you're going to lose a lot of the effect if you're doing it through water. Of course, you shouldn't worry about that too much if you're using an extract, you'll trip your balls off either way.

So the main difference between salvia and weed:

Weed is ok for recreational, kick back, have a pleasant time with friends/etc. Salvia is much more of a spiritual journey, and you don't want to be around people too much. The feeling of anything even touching me makes my skin creep.

Good luck, and be safe. The last thing we need is some retard to kill himself while on salvia and have it become a controlled substance.

PS: Don't try to make a joint out of this stuff. It requires a very high temperature to activate it. Rolling a joint is only going to waste your money.

[ProjectEight]

Well my third time went alright, I know I need a little more next time. I was bordering from this world to the next but was aware of my room and all.

QUestion: when can you smoke again? I hear once you smoke in 2 minutes that feeling is all you will feel even if you smoke more. It is not like when you come down and want to take another hit to bring you back to lala land.

The first time nothing happened, second time a little bit and the 3rd time enough to know what a great feeling it was and will be so I hope my 4th will allow me to sit on top of the world.

[5HT]

JFisher put it nicely, yes, I made the mistake of underestimating 15x salvia, taking it in the basement of my parents house.

best place to do it would probably be on a brisk summer's dawn or dusk looking at the sky, or perhaps midnight looking at the stars. I hope to find a secluded park in nature where I can do this over the summer.

[ProjectEight]

anyone??


QUestion: when can you smoke again? I hear once you smoke in 2 minutes that feeling is all you will feel even if you smoke more. It is not like when you come down and want to take another hit to bring you back to lala land.

[Hempamasta]

Well, it's not really a physical thing as much a psychological thing. I know that when I am coming down off Salvia, my body and such feels so strange that I don't want to travel to the "Spiritual Realm" again, but that's just me.

Oh, by the way, the most comprehensive Salvia tripper's Guide (in my humble opinion) can be found at www.sagewisdom.org (It's the "Salvia User's Guide" or something like that. You'll know it when you see it). It's the best.

[Cheery Cherry]

I would love to try, but am a bit scared to....do you have any control of yourself at all? I've done acid before but that was years ago and I was at a party with room full of people I didn't know and it freaked me out. So since then, I stopped doing it.

You say it only lasts a short time..can you do it with someone else who is doing Salvia with me? Should the other person be someone who has done it before or can it be the first time for both of us?

Is it anything like peyote?

[OrangeHaze.4466.]

For me, i really didnt have any control on extracted salvia, it shouldn't be something you would want to control, but more something you want to experience.

[ShamanicHippy]

You can get it at most smoke shops, esp. the extract form. I tried 15x my first time, scared the living hell out of me. Weed and salvia are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Firstly, salvia is a very intense hallucinogen. My first time, I though I was a door swirling through a vortex where everything I knew to be real no longer existed. I didn't remember who I was, or that I even existed (let alone the fact I was only tripping.) I couldn't move, I could barely talk. I mostly mumbled incoherently and swayed back and forth wiggling my fingers in the air. It only lasts about 10-15 minutes during the full effects, and has about a 30-60 minutes afterglow. It is completely different from shrooms or other hallucinogens in the fact that you are immediately thrown into a different dimension (if you do it right). And I will repeat what has been said over and over, THIS IS NOT A PARTY DRUG.

Salvia should be used in a quiet environment, play some low mellow music, and make sure the room isn't too bright. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A SITTER. Trust me, you don't want to trip out and drop your piece, or start moving around. The salvia kicks in very quickly (a matter of seconds with an extract). The second time I tried it, I ran out to my friend's balcony thinking I was some sort of god. Probably not the safest place to be.

If you're using plain leaf, a torch lighter is best, and you'll need a couple bowls. If you're using extract, the lighter doesn't matter so much, just keep the flame on the salvia. I have also read that using a bong with no water in it is best, as the active ingredient Salvinorin A is water soluble, while weed is not. This means you're going to lose a lot of the effect if you're doing it through water. Of course, you shouldn't worry about that too much if you're using an extract, you'll trip your balls off either way.

So the main difference between salvia and weed:

Weed is ok for recreational, kick back, have a pleasant time with friends/etc. Salvia is much more of a spiritual journey, and you don't want to be around people too much. The feeling of anything even touching me makes my skin creep.

Good luck, and be safe. The last thing we need is some retard to kill himself while on salvia and have it become a controlled substance.

PS: Don't try to make a joint out of this stuff. It requires a very high temperature to activate it. Rolling a joint is only going to waste your money.
Salvinorin A is not water soluable.

[McCauley Caulkin]

McCauley Caulkin has been enlightened by this information, McCauley Caulkin didnt know to hold the flame the entire time you hit it.

this thread has satisfied McCauley Caulkin

[Firebrand]

i got a ?

im not good with measurements, is a gram enough to pack a bowl? because im buying 3 grams and hope that it will get me through for the first 2 times, then i plan on getting a gram of 5x, is that enough for a good trip? i dont want to b tripping balls thats y im getting 5x

[justinsane]

haha, i just read this thread again after seeing that McCauley posted... i love his posts.... but it reminds me not to do too many drugs.. haha, just kiddin. keep the groove McCauley.

yeah anyway.. salvia rulezorszszss

[5HT]

yes, a true salvia trip you have no fucking control at all. it hits you like a bullet.

[GHoSToKeR]

I hope to try salvia in the future.. I imagine i'll have to order it from the USD or the UK, though (I live on an island).. Thanks for the information, guys.. These are the kinds of threads people need to read :)