religion

[sinbin]

whats your religion? i used to belive in God, but im not so sure if i do anymore, i mean in the bible it said that God talked to all these people and did all these great things, like when he talked to that guy (wots his name?) through a burning bush and he freed the slaves or somthing. how come we dont get sh!t like these days? has God given up on us? or does he clearly not exsist. i dont think he exsist, theres to much suffering in the world, i mean they are kids starving to death and dying of water loss all the time, but God do'nt do jack sh*t to help us. what kind of God would do that? i dont know how we got here, but i think God is bullsh*t, and how did God get here exacly? where did he come from? theres lots of time when we all could of used a Gods help, but no God has ever helped us. so thier is either NO God, or a very sh*ty God at that. and some people are luckier than others, like Lucy P for example, theres loads of kids that get picked on for being fat/ugly/dumb(im one of those victums)/small/or even coulor. theres to much sh!t in the world to belive a god, if there was a god then he should stop all this sh!t! little boys and girls have commited sucide because of bullys, wow, what a great religion huh?

Peace

P.S, and also it says gays are evil and they go to hell! WTF, my cousin is gay. is religion trying to say he's going to hell just because he likes the same thing women do! BULLSH*T, man if God does exsist, he must be a real ar&e hole!

[4thpower]

if you really don't believe in God, why would you even care to post this?

[sinbin]

well you obvoiusly did'nt read my whole post since i only just opened it. PLEASE read my psot before bitching at me for my belifes

[4thpower]

there you go... you've got a chip on your shoulder for some reason. I didn't say anything about your beliefs. You said yourself that you don't have any beliefs. Pretty ass-hole of you to get on here and blast something that you don't even believe in.

chill man, smoke a bowl.

[OreO]

if ur fat...excersize and lose weight

if ur dumb...open a book

if ur small....get stilts and buy some new clothes to fit ur legs/stilts

if ur ugly...get some plastic surgery done

if u are another color than white...then do what michael did:)

u see.......im god

[sinbin]

can we accauly talk about the topic itsself, iv made a very VALID point and i was hoping somone would agree with me, oh well looks like i guess wrong.

[sinbin]

if ur fat...excersize and lose weight

if ur dumb...open a book

if ur small....get stilts and buy some new clothes to fit ur legs/stilts

if ur ugly...get some plastic surgery done

if u are another color than white...then do what michael did:)

u see.......im god

if your small buy some stilts, LMAO. please man. this is a VERY SEROIUS topic and im trying to get responses that are SEROIUS. after all this is a seroius matter

[TheLion]

Honestly man, the idea of there being a god is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not gonna get all into the evidence and shit, but you're absolutely right. I am as atheist as they come. God, and religion in general, are ridiculous, closed-minded, primitive ideas. You would think that we as people would be smart enough and evolved enough to realize how fucking stupid the idea of religion is. If we got rid of religion, there would be much less death in this world.

Strive for Peace.

[sinbin]

hey man! what about that recent topic about that little girl that has no face? SHE WAS BORN like that. wow, realy is a great religion you got there pal. inocent chrildren SUFFERING for doing fuck all

[sinbin]

Honestly man, the idea of there being a god is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not gonna get all into the evidence and shit, but you're absolutely right. I am as atheist as they come. God, and religion in general, are ridiculous, closed-minded, primitive ideas. You would think that we as people would be smart enough and evolved enough to realize how fucking stupid the idea of religion is. If we got rid of religion, there would be much less death in this world.

Strive for Peace.


THANK YOU! YES THANK YOU! :D

[4thpower]

seems pretty closed-minded of you to not accept other's beliefs, man.

[TheLion]

Oh, I accept them, and they can believe what they want. It's just a fucking stupid idea in general.

[sinbin]

i used to belive in God, but i FINALLY realise how fucking stupid religionis. everytime i thought to myself, then why dos'nt God help all the suffering and why does he do fuck all? then i said to myself, now now, there has to be a God, if there was no god where would i go when i die? and i FINALLY realise, religion is a fear, the people who praise to this "god" are scared of going to hell when they die. i finally realise how bullshit religion is!!!!!!!!

[TheLion]

i used to belive in God, but i FINALLY realise how fucking stupid religionis. everytime i thought to myself, then why dos'nt God help all the suffering and why does he do fuck all? then i said to myself, now now, there has to be a God, if there was no god where would i go when i die? and i FINALLY realise, religion is a fear, the people who praise to this "god" are scared of going to hell when they die. i finally realise how bullshit religion is!!!!!!!!
Welcome to the light man. Your world and your life will be a better place from now on. Worry free and blissful; that's how my life is and it's wonderful. Ever since I have realized how stupid religion is a few years ago, life has been good.

[4thpower]

that's fine that you believe that, sinbin. But I still don't see why you have to come on here and bad-mouth many people's religion. free speech doesn't guard against stupidity. But, that's the hypocrisy of the entire athiest/liberal thing. They are completely blind to the intolerance they show in the name of "tolerance".

smoke a bowl.

[sinbin]

if there is a god, he must be one sick mother fucker, my parents ad a baby (a year before i was born) he had breathing problem s and died 3 days later, my parents never did get over it. what kind of a fucking God is that? to let an inocent person/baby/child/animal SUFFER! if there is a God he is a sick fucker. and the bible also says animals dont go to heaven, it says because humans are in the image of God and animals are not, translated that means that because animals ar'nt as HIGH STANDARD of us humans they OBVOIUSLY dont desearve to have a afterlife, they have feelings, my dog gets happy, scared, agnry. he has a heart, a soul. but according to "god" he wont get to live in a peacfull after life JUST because animals ar'nt in image of God, if there is a God he's a selfish FUCKER.

[sinbin]

im not bad mouthing, hey you have your religion thats good for you (even if the religion is one big lye) im just finally saying that iv given up all the things i wont belive, and i never felt better.

i cant see ONE decent reason to why God exsist and to why hes such a good/kind person. to me, he sounds like an asshole. but i dont think there is any god

[4thpower]

whatever dude... you seem to have a vendetta. what exactly are you achieving here?

smoke a fucking bowl, already.

[OreO]

ya sinbin...sorry i wasnt serious...this is a marijuana board


my belief...alright

i think god put us here to help ourselves in the world he created, he set up this enviorment so everyone can live there lives differently in diff areas. I dont think God is always gonna help u, what u think this is HEAVEN? Anyway my point is i think God was only the creator of us, our mind, and the world he gave us so i think he just gave it up to us to do what we did with it.

I kno this doesnt answer allllll ur questions like where did he come from but thats just wat i think(im not very religious, son of a strict catholic and muslim, crazy huh?)

i do think there is a god tho

[TheLion]

whatever dude... you seem to have a vendetta. what exactly are you achieving here?

smoke a fucking bowl, already.
I'm with you on this one. You've made your point. Take it easy. And the answer to all of your "God is one sick motherfucker" stuff, Sinbin, is simple: there is no God, that's why bad things happen.

[GHoSToKeR]

Atheist all the way.. But I still like to listen to other people's beliefs, because one day somebody might show me something that changes my opinion. I doubt it, but who knows? All my family are religious (or most of them) so I understand why some people believe in God and their religion (like my sister; her husband died while she was pregnant, and she believes that shes gonna see him again after Armaggedon and that he will finally get to see his daughter.. I can totally understand that) but I dont believe it myself. To each his own.

[sinbin]

im never gonna look at dogma (the movie) in the same why again, lol. i go to a catholic shcool (oh dear lol) i cant wait til i can get my R.E my new belife. HAHA.

it makes sense, why would god let all this suffering happen? its the most SIMPLIST answer ever, THERE IS NO GOD!

i think i should get K+ for all the work iv put in this topic lol

[fuzzyblue]

lol sinbin it was moses he talked to with the burning bush...i saw it in the prince of egypt movie

[OzzyOz]

it makes sense, why would god let all this suffering happen? its the most SIMPLIST answer ever, THERE IS NO GOD!



If god made life perfect, no one would respect him. THink about it, if everything was great no one would care about god. People see bad things happen, and they go to church hoping to avoid these things etc. But if god made the life so perfect, no one would assume anything bad could happen... and they wouldn't honor god as much.

[OzzyOz]

i know that didn't make much sense
but it makes sense to me

[TheLion]

To each his own.

It is apparent that we, unfortunately, will not ever be able to erradicate religion. Therefore we must preach tolerance and peace. Stop all the hatin'.

[OzzyOz]

yeah
just let people belive what they want

...

we'll see when we die

[OreO]

no ozzy ur right as well, think about it man if life was perfect there would be no need for the thought of heaven, life would be "heaven" if he gave what everybody else wanted everyone would be wanting more and more and more, life aint that easy u gotta work for it man. Its just like kids who get spoiled from there parents they keep getting what they want up until they live with there parents and once they are out of the house they dont kno how to survive, get a job, save money, etc. and that animal issue u stated god created MAN not animal so thats why religion applies to humans. U cant teach a fuckin animal religion(not completely sure)

Also what boggles my mind about the whole religion thing is the science factor that mayb god didnt create earth/us/animals and mayb it was just cause by reproduction and all that crazy science stuff(sorry stoned and cant think of right word lol)

[OzzyOz]

i guess i'm a prophet now

haha just kiddin

[TheLion]

Ya, I'm not gonna get into the science of it, but if you look at it, there are many questions and a lot of evidence that would absolutely blow religion out of the water. Things like: "Well, if God created people, why did he go through all of the trouble to make a whole bunch of organs instead of one solid mass? Did he sit there and map out each organ and its function?" ect...

[OreO]

ya lion...c this is why im not religious but i believe in a god....its toooo fucking hard to find the truth but it is eazy to point oout the flaws of it

[BlueCat]

Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. You should make a law that everyone watch The Jesus factor on PBS just so we all know how full of the holy spirit you are! Just the other day when someone tried to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply reminded them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.

{Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.}

Well A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? I really want a Canadian slave!

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7,8. She is driving me nuts and I need the cash.

{ And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.}
{If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.}

In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? Do you think it would be ok to auction her off on Ebay?


3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19

{And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.}


The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense to this! Should I stake out the feminine hygiene aisle at Walmart?

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9.

[But his inwards and his legs shall he wash in water: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD.]

The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. They say it stinks...so should I smite them? I'd really like to smite them...

5. I have several neighbors who insist on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2

{Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.}

The passage clearly states they should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to stone them myself? Can I have a stoning party?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight.

{Or crookback, or a dwarfism, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;}

I have to admit that I wear reading glasses and contacts. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?


8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27.

{Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.}

While I wear my long hippy hair I notice yours is short as are many of my friends How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:7-8

{And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.}

Lev 11:8

{Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.}

that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean! But Can I still play football if I promise to wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19

{Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.}


by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:14

{Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.}

Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

{And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you}

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, as I have heard you prostrate yourself before the Lord ion the floor of the oval office so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. I await your wisdom. :rolleyes:

Your adoring fan,

US Resident, BlueCat




(adaptation from Dr. Laura Schlessinger )

[Etrain]

"Can I have a stoning party?" hahaha. That's a funny post Blue. I'm agnostic :)

[4thpower]

I just don't see why athiests are so militant in their non-beliefs. A Mercedez Benz in my name doesn't exist. As far as I remember, I've never made a post about it.

[OreO]

ya 4th power i know what u mean. I believe in god but do u see me talking about how "athiest r fucking retards for not believing god!!!"(not being serious)

i have a friend like that...u believe what U believe dont bash something someone else believes just cause u dont...

i chose to be agnostic and ya that post was good blue.



george bush, that crazy fuck u gotta love him! i sure do....

[TheLion]

Probably because we've had people trying to brainwash us with religion all of our lives and now that we're smart enough to see what bullshit it is, we're expressing our beliefs.

[makor01]

yeah im not influenced by control in fear of hellfire.

[Mojavpa]

A famous philosopher and novelist- Ayn Rand, pointed out that Christianity, and I would include the other two monotheistic religions, has an inherant contradiction in it-that we must be concerned with saving our souls, but in order to do this we must be concerned with the well-being of other people, helping them and so forth. So why are we helping the poor(those of us that do), for ourselves or because we genuinly care about them? And when we pray, confess our sins, go to temple and mass and pray, couldnt that time be better well-spent doing good for the world, volunteering, donating, giving our services to humanity and so forth? My point is which is more important and what should we prioritize, our own souls or the souls of our fellow human beings?

[nakedgunner]

i see wat ur saying

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

God was invented by man to justify evils done to others (Bible supports slavery, inequality for women and non-whites, etc.) and evils done to them.

Once people stop thinking the Bible has any validity the intelligence of the world will increase tremendously, I think.

And how can anyone justify God killing EVERYONE in the entire fucking world (even the newborn babies -- were they wicked??).

If there is a God, and it is the one described in the Bible, fuck it -- I'm not gonna worship that fucking asshole.

Faith, religion, and all that shit is just another word for superstition. And superstitution is another word for stupidity.

Wallah! Let me show you a magick trick!

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

Fuck any belief system -- be agnostic with everything. I think even atheism is as stupid as Christianity, because you are agreeing on something and whether you know it or not, probably making up your mind to a certain extent, which limits and suffocates your freedom of thought.

[TheLion]

My point is which is more important and what should we prioritize, our own souls or the souls of our fellow human beings?
Ayn Rand is/was (hell, I dunno) a very intelligent woman.
Anyway, I'd have to say that we should place priority on the souls of our fellow human beings.

[TheLion]

I think even atheism is as stupid as Christianity, because you are agreeing on something and whether you know it or not, probably making up your mind to a certain extent, which limits and suffocates your freedom of thought.
Good point my man, good point.

[WEED]

I'm Buddhist.

[mellow mood]

i call that fuck religions. but thats only my religion, i respect any religions

[OreO]

what religion r u mellow?

[Maui Wowie]

If god made life perfect, no one would respect him. THink about it, if everything was great no one would care about god. People see bad things happen, and they go to church hoping to avoid these things etc. But if god made the life so perfect, no one would assume anything bad could happen... and they wouldn't honor god as much.

If god made everyone perfect, they wouldn't think anything of god because they're perfect.

There is no god, religion sucks.

[Anthro Emesis]

God is for real. Keep your faith, and you will reach heaven. If the lord giveth, cannot the lord taketh? You all know the story of Job, don't let the same thing happen to you. God will always be there for you if you only accept him, and then you may trancend this world of pain and suffering into the world of dietys.
I'm an atheist too, but don't lose your faith because something bad has happened in your life. Find a real good reason to be atheist, or let the lord into your life and he will heal you.

P.S. If religion isn't for you, it doesn't necesarrily make it sucky. Some weaker minded people need to feel that there is a point to life, or else they just won't live it. you could say, just ufck those ignoramuses, but how would you like everybody else thinking the same thing as you? Creativity flows through all and it comes out in different mediums. Don't hate, fisticate.

[mellow mood]

heres what i beleive, for whom it may interest:

I do not think the idea of a religion is bad, neither stupid. I personnaly dont beleive in god, coz i think god is too complicated to be unserstood by simple humans. so this is a waste of time trying to understand it...

and i also think even if what u beleive is wrong or not, whats the matter? the matter is for what u beleive in to make you a better person. amerindians were respecting nature and living creature and they were living in pure harmony among their tribe. anyway... whichever god u beleive in, just dont become a closed-minded person and that think he detain the truth.

[TheLion]

God is for real. Keep your faith, and you will reach heaven. If the lord giveth, cannot the lord taketh? You all know the story of Job, don't let the same thing happen to you. God will always be there for you if you only accept him, and then you may trancend this world of pain and suffering into the world of dietys.
I'm an atheist too, but don't lose your faith because something bad has happened in your life. Find a real good reason to be atheist, or let the lord into your life and he will heal you.

P.S. If religion isn't for you, it doesn't necesarrily make it sucky. Some weaker minded people need to feel that there is a point to life, or else they just won't live it. you could say, just ufck those ignoramuses, but how would you like everybody else thinking the same thing as you? Creativity flows through all and it comes out in different mediums. Don't hate, fisticate.
Is it just me, or did you just totally contradict yourself?

[GHoSToKeR]

lol yeah, he/she did

"God is for real" and then "I'm an atheist too"

Maybe he/she thinks that an atheist is somebody who does not belong to any religion, as opposed to somebody who does not believe in God.

[Jaxx]

i think God was just a way to give people, in a time when life was truely hard, a hope that one day they'd have thier own paradise. This still applies to many who lead lives full of suffering in war-torn countries, but for the rest of us its just a bonus to a life that should be more than enough for us. Its also another way for people to try try and justify hate and prejudice caused by fear. This is still true in many places, though not as severe as it used to be (eg the crusades). Religion's failing nowadays, mainly because we've started to embrace our fellow man instead of trying to kill them, so we no longer need a reason to justify killing them. Religion isnt all bad, believing in God obviously doesnt automatically make you some kind of Nazi, and people working for God do very good things, charities, helping the poor/sick, but we shouldnt do these things just to benefit ourselves (ie get into heaven)
I think eventually we'll be able to exist without having to believe in a higher power of some kind, but it wont happen til we grow up properly and realise that he was never really there and we dont need him to justify our actions be they good or bad. I could go on like this forever, but Im gonna spare y'all :)

[TheLion]

Exactly my thoughts, Jaxx.

[Reefer Rogue]

I'm agnostic. If i were to choose a religion it would be buddist. I use to go to a christian school when i was little, but then i read up on darwins evolution theory and it all made sence to me. I don't care what anyone believes and i'm not going to force my beliefs onto anyone else. I just wish some christians would do the same to me instead of pestering me to "see the light or go to hell."

[Button Basher]

Technically I should be Christian. I was baptised when I was young but was only ever taught that Christians believe in a god who is all good and that makes Christians the most peace-loving people on Earth.

Now that I'm a licensed toker, I find I don't believe in religion. It's like the herb made me see straight. What is religion? It's no different from politics. Why should I believe in Christianity? I don't know, is there any reason to?

It seems to me religion is a reassurance, particularly with modern day Christianity. People need an excuse to be biased without feeling bad, to be reassured without being confused. The world is a bad place and people do bad things, I wouldn't say the logical place to turn in times like this is a book with unknown origins connoting the beliefs of one individual. I've no more an excuse to believe it then I do 'The Sun' and in doing so, i'm just letting myself get suckered. The world's a very difference place compared to how it was thousands of years ago, as if those ideologies could ever be significant now (yet people still believe they are).

When I read the bible, I don't see a logical solution to lifes problems and obstacles. I see nothing but jargon that people need to adapt to modern day in an effort to excuse it's crimes. What is there to suggest faith isn't a waste of time. None. I'll look out for myself thank you.

Just my small-minded opinion.

[PureEvil760]

I believe that the burning bush was an entity called Kryon who again visited the earth and taught millions of people the truth www.kryon.com . I believe in taking responsibility for everything bad or good that happens in your life because we are all a piece of god, we are in control god does not control us. Before you are born you set up all the circumstances with every single person you even see to create tests for yourself. I believe you have the power to create anything you wish in your life and anyone can have peace within themselfs and thier life if they so choose. I do not believe in heaven or hell, though they exists they are mearly illusions that have been created from human beliefe, they exist on the astral plane and are not real. I believe the world will drastically change in the year 2012 perhaps the apocalypse..perhapse somthing else..whatever it is humans will survive it and evolutionize closer to how jesus was with each generation.

[PureEvil760]

we are just visiting the earth when we are dead we go home.

[amsterdam]

people always say"with everything going on in the world how can you believe in god?" i think the p[roper question is "how can you believe in man?"

[XTC]

Agreed. God created us with enough sense and logic to do so many things. God Shouldn't have to babysit us. Humans in general need to take responsibility for their actions as a whole.

[OreO]

exactley XTC...he gave us the most intelligence out of any organism and we are supposed to be the one to take responsibilities of our own actions...hes just the creator

[Darkneon420]

whats your religion? i used to belive in God, but im not so sure if i do anymore, i mean in the bible it said that God talked to all these people and did all these great things, like when he talked to that guy (wots his name?) through a burning bush and he freed the slaves or somthing. how come we dont get sh!t like these days? has God given up on us? or does he clearly not exsist. i dont think he exsist, theres to much suffering in the world, i mean they are kids starving to death and dying of water loss all the time, but God do'nt do jack sh*t to help us. what kind of God would do that? i dont know how we got here, but i think God is bullsh*t, and how did God get here exacly? where did he come from? theres lots of time when we all could of used a Gods help, but no God has ever helped us. so thier is either NO God, or a very sh*ty God at that. and some people are luckier than others, like Lucy P for example, theres loads of kids that get picked on for being fat/ugly/dumb(im one of those victums)/small/or even coulor. theres to much sh!t in the world to belive a god, if there was a god then he should stop all this sh!t! little boys and girls have commited sucide because of bullys, wow, what a great religion huh?

Peace

P.S, and also it says gays are evil and they go to hell! WTF, my cousin is gay. is religion trying to say he's going to hell just because he likes the same thing women do! BULLSH*T, man if God does exsist, he must be a real ar&e hole!


Im a muslim americain. Muslims believe in one god and that Mohamaud (Peace be upon him) is his final messanger. When you asked why stuff like wat Moses saw doesent happen now its cuz like Mohaumad(PBUH) Moses(PBUH) was a profhet and since Mohamaud (PBUH) was the last those things dont happen ne more. But Allah left us a book, the Quran so that Islam could live on forever until judgment day.

God does exist and god will or wont answer your prayers, i think it depends on how close to god you r (im not completelly sure i have to ask) Its not our right to ask where god came from. he was just there. Thats it. Theres no greater power! ne way....about the gay thing...i used to be bi but well i love god more and im just gunna go by the laws of Islam. Theres no way around it... :)

[TheLion]

Im a muslim americain. Muslims believe in one god and that Mohamaud (Peace be upon him) is his final messanger. When you asked why stuff like wat Moses saw doesent happen now its cuz like Mohaumad(PBUH) Moses(PBUH) was a profhet and since Mohamaud (PBUH) was the last those things dont happen ne more. But Allah left us a book, the Quran so that Islam could live on forever until judgment day.

God does exist and god will or wont answer your prayers, i think it depends on how close to god you r (im not completelly sure i have to ask) Its not our right to ask where god came from. he was just there. Thats it. Theres no greater power! ne way....about the gay thing...i used to be bi but well i love god more and im just gunna go by the laws of Islam. Theres no way around it... :)
You're brainwashed, but hey, whatever floats your boat....I like to live my life based on what I have observed, not what some book that was written by people thousands or hundreds of years ago because they needed an explanation for their existance because they were not evolved enough to look at the science of it.

[TheLion]

people always say"with everything going on in the world how can you believe in god?" i think the p[roper question is "how can you believe in man?"
So, so true.

[Button Basher]

My god, Amsterdam made an intelligent and thoughtful statement :eek: !

Perhaps there IS a god. :D

I kid.

[fuzzyblue]

why doesn't don't believe everything you hear, or everything you read apply to religion? what happened to the whole if they jumped off a bridge would you do it too huh huh?...anyhow looks like there's gonna be alotta floaters

[Mojavpa]

You're brainwashed, but hey, whatever floats your boat....I like to live my life based on what I have observed, not what some book that was written by people thousands or hundreds of years ago because they needed an explanation for their existance because they were not evolved enough to look at the science of it.

Arent we all brainwashed in one way or another? Do you honestly think you are immune from all outside influences????

[TheLion]

Never said I'm immune to it, but I sure as hell don't let others influence my decisions to the extent that neon expressed.

[Mojavpa]

Im a muslim americain. Muslims believe in one god and that Mohamaud (Peace be upon him) is his final messanger. When you asked why stuff like wat Moses saw doesent happen now its cuz like Mohaumad(PBUH) Moses(PBUH) was a profhet and since Mohamaud (PBUH) was the last those things dont happen ne more. But Allah left us a book, the Quran so that Islam could live on forever until judgment day.

God does exist and god will or wont answer your prayers, i think it depends on how close to god you r (im not completelly sure i have to ask) Its not our right to ask where god came from. he was just there. Thats it. Theres no greater power! ne way....about the gay thing...i used to be bi but well i love god more and im just gunna go by the laws of Islam. Theres no way around it... :)

Hey Darkneon, I was also raised muslim, although I'm atheist now I still have a lot of respect for the religion. But I hope you're not suppressing your bisexuality because of Islam. The passages in the Quran talking about homosexuality have been interpreted many different ways, and I encourage you to research it! Some people I know are both gay and catholic, muslim, etc and I think an alternative sexual orientation can be compatible with religion. Just a thought.

[GHoSToKeR]

Man... I've had this discussion soooooo many times that i've ran out of arguments. Anything I say would just be rehashing old points and I don't wanna get in to it. I've read this whole thread (almost) though, and it's been cool.. It's cool that we at Cannabis.com can discuss something as volatile as religion and still keep it cool. Smoke on :)

[likemclever]

I would be lost without my faith...(christian.) I don't have all the answers for why things happen the way they do (I guess thats why they call it faith.) Think about it, if there were no suffering in the world there could be no joy. Suffering actually brings people closer to God. Most people never pray or even think about God unless they they need something from him (selfish reasons) if I were him that would kind of piss me off too.

[TheLion]

I would be lost without my faith...(christian.) I don't have all the answers for why things happen the way they do (I guess thats why they call it faith.) Think about it, if there were no suffering in the world there could be no joy. Suffering actually brings people closer to God. Most people never pray or even think about God unless they they need something from him (selfish reasons) if I were him that would kind of piss me off too.
Well it's unfortunate that you would be lost without your faith...

And so what if suffering brings people closer to god? Why is that a good thing? I say it would be bad to be close to god if he existed. I say we get rid of suffering so we can become closer to eachother.

[Stedric]

Whatever exists in the afterlife, whatever force drives creation (whether it be merely science or a Supreme God), is much too complicated and intricate for me to understand.

Agnostic, in other words.

[Maui Wowie]

Indeed, damn churchies, go away, your religion sucks.

[sinbin]

yay, everyones posting on my thread :D :p

[PureEvil760]

my religeon is the only true one cause it IS the truth :p

[amsterdam]

my religeon is the only true one cause it IS the truth :p


what is truth anyway?

[PureEvil760]

its like the matrix, we are living in the fake place and the spiritual realm is the real world

[PureEvil760]

how do you enable java so I can go into the chat room?

[anycraic]

the amount of people i know who have been beaten up or robbed because of their religion, its just another reason to hate

[amsterdam]

the amount of people i know who have been beaten up or robbed because of their religion, its just another reason to hate


really?where do you live??

[anycraic]

ireland

[amsterdam]

forget the people who have been beaten up and robbed,what about the people who have been killed.

Ireland is one of the most beautifel places on earth.great golf and good beer!!

[anycraic]

forget the people who have been beaten up and robbed,what about the people who have been killed.

Ireland is one of the most beautifel places on earth.great golf and good beer!!

true

[Delta9]

"Pounding the world like a battering ram.
Forging furnace for the final grand slam.
Chopping away at the source soon the course will be done.
Leaving a trail of destruction thats second to none."

Second to none

[TheLion]

I just wish we could abolish religion for good. The world would be a much better place to live in.

[Jaxx]

Aye, religion, in my opinion, has had its time and we need to move on. Doesnt need to be abolished though, we can still learn alot from how it influenced us for good or bad, it just shouldnt be forced on people at a young age so they can make their own decision when theyre old enough to understand all the concepts involved.
I think this way alot of people will just abandon it.

[Mojavpa]

Religion will never go away, and theres no way to abolish it. Nations have tried it, and they've failed miserably. Religion makes people happy and gives them hope. Theres probably an evolutionary reason that makes religion favorable to the survival of our species. If you take an introductory course in religion, one of the first question that comes up is which came first, society or religion? Could civilization have formed without religion, or at least a basic belief in the afterlife? And studies have shown people who are religious and who pray and attend services tend to live longer lives, have stronger immune systems, and more effectively battle life-threatening diseases.

[TheLion]

I still think abolishing it would save far more lives than keeping it around will.

[BlueCat]

Hey no one said I did not believe in God....geez it was a joke
I just don't accept organized religion because they take what they want from the bible for their own gain...say like bombing little kids in Iraq...hmmm do you think Jesus would use an AK 47 or surface to air missle....oh no he would use that star wars satellite thingy LMAO

[BlueCat]

religion is in your heart not in a church with an old guy shouting at you...

[vicuna62]

I'm confused (really) If all the bad shit in the world proves that God doesn't exist. What does all the good shit prove????

[TheLion]

That people have good in them... :confused:

[TheLion]

Why would you possibly need a God for good things to happen??? All that tells me is that you have a very weak, sheepish, conformist mind.

[BlueCat]

thanks E. loved the art....I teach art...your's is good whats your background?
Cat

http://img272.echo.cx/my.php?image=b0700sp.jpg

[BlueCat]

I am not an atheist,4th :p ....I just don't like the turn religion is taking today...check out this for militant...http://www.forceministries.com/ it is no joke and it some scary shit! :eek:
It was a joke... :D you have to admit the old testament is freaky? Um do you spend several days outside when you are on your period (if you r a girl) cause the old test. says you better...you better sleep in the barn if you have a girl baby instead if a boy too... I am just teasing ...please don't take it serious.. :cool:
Cat

[BlueCat]

PEACE

[BlueCat]

Ok Oreo glad you liked the post but if you really love Bush educate yourself then kiss Bush's ass...if you can remove condi's lips....Or join the Army if you love Bush so much! My son is there where are you?
http://costofwar.com/
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/uncensored.html
http://www.thememoryhole.org/
__________________
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
Thomas Jefferson

[djaio]

I still think abolishing it would save far more lives than keeping it around will.

yeah, just like abolishing weed has stopped people from smoking it.

anyway, i agree that much religion nowadays is dogmatic and close-minded, but that doesn't make the idea of a creator, or a binding force, or SOMETHING, totally irrational. expand your thinking. dont believe that what you see with your eyes is all that exists. thats what drugs are for.

besides, religion is not always founded on fear. its just how people handle it that fucks it up. christianity, for example, was founded on ideals of love, forgiveness, and truth... what's so bad about that? buddhism and hinduism, they still have nothing to do with close-mindedness or oppressing their beliefs. they are extremely open, pure religions - if you could even call them religions. hindus dont like being called hindus(the british made up the word hindu) because it implies separation from everyone else.

[Darkneon420]

k im brainwashed..........everyone seems to think so :(

But we'll all find out the truth one day. Cant hide from it, ya know that day! Honestly I cant wait to meet Allah but one day. Right now im just getting ready for it and doing good things. Praising only Allah!

Nuuuu i decided not to be Homosexual anymore because I do think god made man for women and women for man, but that doesent mean ppl werent born gay cuz pplz could just be born like that. And cuz i dun need a bitch...(my bf is sensitive enough ne wayz) i have my own pms to deal with mine and my moms :mad: Also cuz i lovez my sexi azn! I still look i look everyday! I just cant touch! :D

[amsterdam]

k im brainwashed..........everyone seems to think so :(

But we'll all find out the truth one day. Cant hide from it, ya know that day! Honestly I cant wait to meet Allah but one day. Right now im just getting ready for it and doing good things. Praising only Allah!

Nuuuu i decided not to be Homosexual anymore because I do think god made man for women and women for man, but that doesent mean ppl werent born gay cuz pplz could just be born like that. And cuz i dun need a bitch...(my bf is sensitive enough ne wayz) i have my own pms to deal with mine and my moms :mad: Also cuz i lovez my sexi azn! I still look i look everyday! I just cant touch! :D


what the hell are you talking about??

[GHoSToKeR]

hey darkneon, no offence hun, but it's kinda saddening that you're changing your whole life style because of religion, and giving up the things you want... but hey its your choice

[TheLion]

hey darkneon, no offence hun, but it's kinda saddening that you're changing your whole life style because of religion, and giving up the things you want... but hey its your choice
Exactly what I'm sayin'.

Stay true to yourself, people! Don't change your life because some dumb book says so!

[BlueCat]

I believe that the burning bush was an entity .....
yeah, em too....ever see that clip from the Micheal Jackson Pepsi commercial.....

[BlueCat]

I'm confused (really) If all the bad shit in the world proves that God doesn't exist. What does all the good shit prove????

someone knows how to grow their shit.... :D

[BlueCat]

Religion will never go away, and theres no way to abolish it. Nations have tried it, and they've failed miserably. Religion makes people happy and gives them hope. Theres probably an evolutionary reason that makes religion favorable to the survival of our species. If you take an introductory course in religion, one of the first question that comes up is which came first, society or religion? Could civilization have formed without religion, or at least a basic belief in the afterlife? And studies have shown people who are religious and who pray and attend services tend to live longer lives, have stronger immune systems, and more effectively battle life-threatening diseases........ready? touch your mouses everyone....i SAID YOUR MOUSE and repeat after me....

[FONT=Century Gothic]"'Lo faccio per vedere
Se verra la fortuna
(O sfortuna) in casa mia.'"

("'This I do that I may see
If good (or bad) luck will come to me!'")


"' 'Tis not lead which here I throw,
But evil fate, that ye may know,
E'er the spell of fate be o'er,
Peace and fortune all the more!')

'In the name of heaven,
Of the stars and moon,
I pass away this trouble
For better luck and soon!')

Thou who didst cause this trouble,
Bear it away from me!')

("O blessed Fire,
Thou who burnest so immensely,
Thou who warmest all mankind,
I pray thee to roll it well and burn it wisely
lets smite this thread for all mankind
Anyone smoking it with me be blessed!") :D

[BlueCat]

we are just visiting the earth when we are dead we go home.oh no what if this IS home? :eek: what if we...pinch me somebody....:rolleyes:

[BlueCat]

people always say"with everything going on in the world how can you believe in god?" i think the p[roper question is "how can you believe in man?"

with such a profound statement whats with the halliburton ad? kinda oxymoronic, eh?

[BlueCat]

Agreed. God created us with enough sense and logic to do so many things. God Shouldn't have to babysit us. Humans in general need to take responsibility for their actions as a whole.

True we can control a lot...and some are "blessed" with sense and logic but then your called XTC...we all know why you believe! :p Who wouldn't? lol

[BlueCat]

exactley XTC...he gave us the most intelligence out of any organism and we are supposed to be the one to take responsibilities of our own actions...hes just the creator

So did he create anarchy and pain cause I really wish he would shit or get off the pot so my son can come home. Its been long enough!! Oh no, that was Bush and the assholes that voted him in wasn't it? grrrrrrrrrrr but then Bush has brought GOD back to America....and we have come full circle

yes it is exorcism time people....get your candles....papers..pipes...smokes..

[BlueCat]

Arent we all brainwashed in one way or another? Do you honestly think you are immune from all outside influences????

sittin here in my calvin kleins....drinking my pepsi I bought at walmart....while watching a gecko sell insurance....nahhhh not me..........I'm good :D

[BlueCat]

My god, Amsterdam made an intelligent and thoughtful statement :eek: !

Perhaps there IS a god. :D

I kid.

LMAO oh I like Bash.....

[BlueCat]

why doesn't don't believe everything you hear, or everything you read apply to religion? what happened to the whole if they jumped off a bridge would you do it too huh huh?...anyhow looks like there's gonna be alotta floaters

what about the Rapturist.....did u know Bush is a Rapturist? so is Asscroft....they seem to be trying to hurry things up a bit,eh?

These are the last days. Soon comes the Rapture, the instant calling to heaven of all good Christians, while everybody else will be left behind.

well I don't about you but I'm having one hell of a garage sale!!

www.leftbehind.com

[BlueCat]

Man... I've had this discussion soooooo many times that i've ran out of arguments. Anything I say would just be rehashing old points and I don't wanna get in to it. I've read this whole thread (almost) though, and it's been cool.. It's cool that we at Cannabis.com can discuss something as volatile as religion and still keep it cool. Smoke on :)



wanted one good exorcist...experience preffered, but doesn't need to be engraved in stone, bring your own herbs....

[BlueCat]

I would be lost without my faith...(christian.) I don't have all the answers for why things happen the way they do (I guess thats why they call it faith.) Think about it, if there were no suffering in the world there could be no joy. Suffering actually brings people closer to God. Most people never pray or even think about God unless they they need something from him (selfish reasons) if I were him that would kind of piss me off too.


http://www.mapquest.com/

sorry couldn't resist..... :D I have 4 kids 1 catholic, 1 protestant, and 2 agnostic....It's your choice...isn't that the real point to it all anyway?

[BlueCat]

Indeed, damn churchies, go away, your religion sucks.

Now Now A little suction is good! :eek: did I just say that ?

[BlueCat]

my religeon is the only true one cause it IS the truth :p

Liar liar pants on fire.....

[BlueCat]

its like the matrix, we are living in the fake place and the spiritual realm is the real world


Unplug your TV it will be ok......

[BlueCat]

how do you enable java so I can go into the chat room?


http://www.mediacollege.com/internet/browsers/java.html

[BlueCat]

anycraic said: the amount of people i know who have been beaten up or robbed because of their religion, its just another reason to hate
__________________
give in to the DarkSide




really?where do you live??
oh this is too easy.....

#666 6th Ave. HELL?

[BlueCat]

ireland

eh...that explains it...The Leprecons!

[BlueCat]

forget the people who have been beaten up and robbed,what about the people who have been killed.

Ireland is one of the most beautifel places on earth.great golf and good beer!!

and pretty names...
my great great grandmother: Melissa Carolina Trusty Malone...what a name

[BlueCat]

I just wish we could abolish religion for good. The world would be a much better place to live in.
no there would still be republicans, Celine Deon and OMG Abba fans....

[BlueCat]

Aye, religion, in my opinion, has had its time and we need to move on. Doesnt need to be abolished though, we can still learn alot from how it influenced us for good or bad, it just shouldnt be forced on people at a young age so they can make their own decision when theyre old enough to understand all the concepts involved.
I think this way alot of people will just abandon it.


I agree...I wonder is there a shelf life for religion...best if used by....

[InhaleItALL]

Do shrooms man, you will come to grips with whatever you believe in. Opens your mind. Whew does it ever.

[Darkneon420]

what the hell are you talking about??

something you may never understand...unfortunitly.

[Darkneon420]

hey darkneon, no offence hun, but it's kinda saddening that you're changing your whole life style because of religion, and giving up the things you want... but hey its your choice
Islam is a lifestyle...im not giviing anything up...cuz wat i want is to be a good muslim (besides if your talking about luc i never left him) And even tho im better with my religion doesent mean im a diffrent person...im still me, still myself. Just going in a diffrent direction, and for the better. I hope yall could understand im still the same darkneon...i hope yallz will love me being Muslim...and hey im probiblly the first stoner muslim you've met!

[PureEvil760]

yes there is a god alright? but you dont know what the fuck it is and while on earth you'll never know. In reality humans arnt even meant to have religeon on earth i mean they are not supposed to believe anything that they can read because 99.9% of religeos books are bullshit with real shit hidden within them but all people do is follow the bull shit which really doesnt make much sense. Im just tryin to say do whatever the fuck you want until you die..because only then you will know the truth. Its funny acctually..if you believe whole heartedly about where you go when you die, you acctually go there! but it is fake, you get stuck there, you are not a real spirit yet if you go to heaven then you are fake..hell..really fake .

[GHoSToKeR]

Islam is a lifestyle...im not giviing anything up...cuz wat i want is to be a good muslim (besides if your talking about luc i never left him) And even tho im better with my religion doesent mean im a diffrent person...im still me, still myself. Just going in a diffrent direction, and for the better. I hope yall could understand im still the same darkneon...i hope yallz will love me being Muslim...and hey im probiblly the first stoner muslim you've met!
darkneon youre always cool with me.. it just sucks when i see people start believing in God or joining a religion because of what I personally think about it, you know? Man, i'm so high i'm trying to figure out if that last sentence even made sense. Ummm...

[Darkneon420]

darkneon youre always cool with me.. it just sucks when i see people start believing in God or joining a religion because of what I personally think about it, you know? Man, i'm so high i'm trying to figure out if that last sentence even made sense. Ummm...

:D Yeah i understand man...thats your opinion and i'll respect that. For me my religion is my life...because thats what the message is...its the path to the right way in islam. To Muslims we follow wat Allah left us here to follow so that one day we can go to paradise as we were meant to go.

Honestly, if we all had the same opinions about stuff like this life would be really boring. Just even if its not your opinion you still have to respect others opinions. Even Muslims respect the bible and other holy books because our religion isent all that diffrent from ours.

[BUZz UK]

Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. You should make a law that everyone watch The Jesus factor on PBS just so we all know how full of the holy spirit you are! Just the other day when someone tried to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply reminded them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.

{Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.}

Well A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? I really want a Canadian slave!

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7,8. She is driving me nuts and I need the cash.

{ And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.}
{If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.}

In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? Do you think it would be ok to auction her off on Ebay?


3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19

{And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.}


The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense to this! Should I stake out the feminine hygiene aisle at Walmart?

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9.

[But his inwards and his legs shall he wash in water: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD.]

The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. They say it stinks...so should I smite them? I'd really like to smite them...

5. I have several neighbors who insist on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2

{Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.}

The passage clearly states they should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to stone them myself? Can I have a stoning party?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight.

{Or crookback, or a dwarfism, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;}

I have to admit that I wear reading glasses and contacts. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?


8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27.

{Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.}

While I wear my long hippy hair I notice yours is short as are many of my friends How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:7-8

{And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.}

Lev 11:8

{Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.}

that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean! But Can I still play football if I promise to wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19

{Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.}


by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:14

{Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.}

Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

{And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you}

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, as I have heard you prostrate yourself before the Lord ion the floor of the oval office so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. I await your wisdom. :rolleyes:

Your adoring fan,

US Resident, BlueCat




(adaptation from Dr. Laura Schlessinger )

i love you :p :D

[BUZz UK]

oh, my 2 pence, i just think that it is quite insane to believe in any sort of god/spirit/protector/etc, givin the vast, infinate expanse of the universe and existence. but whatever makes you happy, eh?

[BUZz UK]

and hey im probiblly the first stoner muslim you've met!
lol, no i've met one before, muslims can't drink booze right? the guy i met just smoke shit loads of weed instead, lol

[TheLion]

I have a question for ya Neon. Isn't it against your religion to do drugs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it stated that your body is not yours, it belongs to Allah, and therefore it is not yours to harm?

[Mojavpa]

I have a question for ya Neon. Isn't it against your religion to do drugs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it stated that your body is not yours, it belongs to Allah, and therefore it is not yours to harm?

Islam explicitly forbids drinking alcohol, but scholars disagree as to whether ingesting other drugs is allowed or not. Most muslims dont drink, but if you go to muslim countries you see many who smoke tobacco. Now a lot of people wonder why alcohol is singled out among intoxicants. The practical reason is because alcohol is so readily available and appeals to more people than any other drug, and because the state of "drunkeness" is undesirable because you cant carry on your day-to-day activities, including praying, when you're drunk all the time. It also has a high potential for abuse Many muslims can therefore justify doing pot because even though it causes euphoria it doesnt prevent you from carrying on any activity. You can drive while on pot, take a test, carry on a conversation. Taking Alcohol in excess, however is dangerous and can lead to "irrational" behavior(being an asshole). Bottom line-you're not in a clear state of mind. Of course, most people dont become alcoholics, but according to scholars if you dont drink at all then theres a zero percent chance you'll become addicted, so thats why its totally forbidden. Thats the rationale.

As to your question, not harming your soul takes priority over not harming your body. If you pray five times a day, go on Hajj, fast, donate your money, get married, and raise muslim kids, read the Quran everyday, blieve Allah is the only god and Mohammed is the last prophet, then everything else is pretty minor. Anyway, its impossible not to harm your body. Every day you dont exercise, eat a fattening meal, go outside not wearing sunscreen then you do damage to your body.

[Mojavpa]

lol, no i've met one before, muslims can't drink booze right? the guy i met just smoke shit loads of weed instead, lol


People in the UK have a much higher chance of meeting muslims. Pakistanis and Indians are everywhere there.

[Darkneon420]

lol, no i've met one before, muslims can't drink booze right? the guy i met just smoke shit loads of weed instead, lol
Lol, nice. Well i live with two! Not including me.

[BlueCat]

oh, my 2 pence, i just think that it is quite insane to believe in any sort of god/spirit/protector/etc, givin the vast, infinate expanse of the universe and existence. but whatever makes you happy, eh?

Yeah I prefer Science but then you have to respect others.....it would be pretty boring if we were all one culture...some single cyborg existence..lol

but then maybe not we would all know the secret to growing the best weed lol
You could smoke it in the UK and we could feel it in the US... :D
As for the Muslims
there are a quite a few communities in BC...I went to one of the mosques there....it was beautiful and I have had muslim neighbors, so I get kinda upset when the rasicm starts up...
I have read a little of the Koran as it is translated on line but lost interest...it was too much like the Bible....

wish I was back in Canada... :( I will either be North or south of the border soon...it is sad to lose faith in your country you know?
hey thanks for your 2 pence...I like that...ever seen a toonie or a loonie?
have a good day...
PEACE Cat

[TheLion]

Yeah I prefer Science but then you have to respect others.....it would be pretty boring if we were all one culture...some single cyborg existence..lol
I guess it could be boring, but it would save a lot of lives...