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goonerz
01-12-2014, 01:37 PM
Hi all, been on here for a week now (NOOB), while I deliberate over what steps I take next, regarding a tent.
every time I look at other posts I get sidetracked and more confused lol.
may I ask what peoples thoughts are, on complete tent kit's, as sold on ebay (UK) for £200 appox
looks like everything is there for a 3' x 3' by 6' tall kit, I can get cuttings but how many could I realistically squeeze in the tent under a 600w light, do more plants increase overall waiting time, im tired of funding my dealers holidays lol
After a couple of grows I would like use this tent just for vegging, and get a larger tent, but for now, im barely crawling let alone attempting to walk or run.
Apologys if this has been posted countless times already

tlranger
01-12-2014, 02:28 PM
And the growers saga begins - couple of cents worth

Tent - One thing thing to look at is the frame connector, plastic will break (load, heat, vibration, stress) some have metal. Needs to support light, fans, and pulley system.

Number to take to finish(squeezed), 9 one gallon pots(4 liter?) to harvest. Number of veging plants - twice that. Number of clones(cuttings) - a bunch - maybe four hundred.

thugphora
01-12-2014, 04:41 PM
I have a 48 tent that I'm using to flower. Someone has to be home to open and close it daily. It gets very warm and humid in it. I have fans exhaust and a dehumidifier that run and all zipped up it gets to hot. Next I will be framing a basic wall and splitting that room for veg and flower. Tents are nice but hot. Make sure it's a decent quality or you will need to get inside and cover all those light pin holes where it's sewn. We also had a zipper break but we're luckily able to fix it quickly.

goonerz
01-12-2014, 06:16 PM
thank you both tlranger & thugphora

so already i guess i was cutting corners, without even purchasing anything yet. lol
i assumed all tents are pretty similar, not now tho.
can the ballast be left outside of the tent for heat reasons.
i havent yet looked properly at tents on ebay to compare, say £50 or so diffenece,
i will have to up my limit an decrease my big smoking habit.
i have little spare cash, all that seems to turn into smoke already
giving it time and effort and another 20 hours of reading up on here, i will try
tlranger, you getting me going with 400 cuttings,i be happy if four survive
thanks for the advice
the item I had been looking at is 261060865715 from ebay (Uk)

tlranger
01-12-2014, 07:08 PM
Yes, ballast outside unless needed for heat. In a3x3 packed, out outside for sure. For space reasons to.

400 cuttings, rooted cuttings in cups veging less 81-100, then to 2 litre maybe 36.

Good luck, it's the people close that you need to worry about, security is number one.

goonerz
01-12-2014, 07:51 PM
just seen a different tent costs £50 more, but the poles are metal, plus its bigger 4 x 4, and has a digital ballast
the other ebay sellar had some bad feedback for his tents aswell

tlranger
01-13-2014, 01:08 AM
Most have metal poles, I'm talking corner connections, Get a light in the package?

goonerz
01-13-2014, 08:06 AM
metal push-fit corner connectors, so it says, there is a 600w hps light included
would you say the MH bulb was worth purchasing for the vegging, or is it gonna make little difference overall
thanks

tlranger
01-13-2014, 01:15 PM
Good deal(alright), on the corners. Instead of the Mh purchase right now, I might go with a bank of t5's that would fit in tent. A little more versital, later on in your operation. An Mh or a switchable will be nice after you've expanded into bigger tent. Then you can use the t5's in small tent for cloning, starting, and early veging. Then the hps and maybe mv-hps in larger finishing tent when you 're getting a little bigger. I do like mv for veging and early bloom cycle, but love finishing under hps, thus the switchable. In fact the mixture, mv/hps for the first three weeks, and then to finish under hps, is my preference. But first grow, t5's then hps should be fine. But I'm going to experiment with led which may change my thinking.:jointsmile:

A lot of buts above(doog and bb take note), and remember some think I'm the comic relief around here.:joint1:

goonerz
01-13-2014, 02:47 PM
tlranger thanks for ya help and advice
im still hoping/relying on doing this on the cheap (300-350 £'s), maybe 2-3 grows down the line then get a second tent, or better still evict me 20 y/o son, he has a nice large room lol
but right now I have access to as many free silver haze cuttings as I need.
I am a bit of a heavy weed smoker, with little spare cash in my wallet, so im hoping after buying a complete tent kit,
i can pick up anything else from local store or local hydroponics shop.
sorry, but what does 'mv' stand for
also, the 600w hps, can a 1000w be used in a digital ballast, can they all use either MH or HPS
cost wise, reckon I just stick with a 600 hps, better alternative than cfl's I hear, for 9 cuttings

tlranger
01-13-2014, 04:18 PM
Mv mercury vapour, blue, maybe it is Mh, to much thinking on my part. 600hps probably just that.
They have adjustable ones, but quessing they would not go with the expensive one, same applies to switchable ballast.
Cuttings are going to be hot under hps, distance and or shade will help while rooting, that's why t5's.

Going cheap, I use under the counter t8' s mounted on board for adjustment, and a cloudy home made dome. Till cuttings take root. I would also do twice what what you need, then use your 9 best, if it don't bubble it ain't worth the trouble.

My cheapo clone box, listed some where, is two cheap totes. Bottom is my reservoir(distilled-super clean water), small fountain pump (Table top size) on timer(15 min. on 4 times a day) to pump water to clones in box above. Above box has hole in middle to drain back to reservoir, same hole used for hose from pump. Use oasis (floral foam) to root in, can get at my grow store in sheets, in blocks at wally world. Cloudy dome - old plastic skylight cut to fit, not tight believe in air flow. Also use gel rooting hormone and a sharp new razor blade, debated on forum, but that's what I use. 297618

goonerz
01-14-2014, 12:22 PM
its probably me, so much new information to take in m8.
yeah, I suppose all stuff is gonna be cheaply made, with my budget.
at the moment im fortunate enough to get some cuttings, If those survive, I will take cuttings week or so before they flower.
that setup sounds great m8, im gonna stick with hps and soil, mainly coz it supposed to be forgiving for beginners, all trial an error, but gaining lots of knowledge from this site already, id be happy if i get 50g from 9 plants
I just hope all goes well, I should be buying everything berfore the end of the month.
cheers again

tlranger
01-14-2014, 02:28 PM
Ok good luck, next time you might list in one of the grow forum threads, keep us advised

tlranger
01-14-2014, 03:09 PM
[QUOTE=goonerz. I suppose all stuff is gonna be cheaply made[/QUOTE]

Really didn't mean cheaply made(is a possibility) meant maybe not top of the line.

goonerz
01-14-2014, 03:58 PM
yes, I agree I certainly ment no disrespect, not like I can afford the best products anyhow, growers with the right knowledge make the best of any equipment, I will post in new forum next time.
thanks again

smello1
01-27-2014, 09:36 PM
I am using a 4by4 tent with a 400 watt light.it does get hot in there!4 to 5 medium size plants would be pushing it thou.At the end of flower there aint no room left!