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milkman23
12-07-2013, 03:51 AM
I've been clean 41 days now had been clean 3 months then started smoking again for a month about a gram a night..anyways I took a first check at home about 27 days clean passed and just took one yesterday morning with the first void passed that as well I'm 5"8 weigh 145 pounds and have ran countless miles in my abstinence as well as drank water and took niacin the whole time..I've been around people smoking twice but that was about a week ago or so and I passed that at home test yesterday morning with first void..just worried still cuz I got the big test in six more days and it's for my future. Just want some reassurance I'll pass cuz all signs point to yes but yal know how it is
Burnt Toast
12-07-2013, 03:56 AM
By doing a Search with the terms "drinking water useless soluble", you'll discover that drinking water is only helpful on the day of the U/A.
Niacin is an ancient myth. It does nothing to help pass a U/A.
3 days before the scheduled U/A, take one more THC test kit again using the first-mornings void. If youre consistently testing negative with the first void, youre good to go. :thumbsup:
milkman23
12-07-2013, 04:01 AM
By doing a Search with the terms "drinking water useless soluble", you'll discover that drinking water is only helpful on the day of the U/A.
Niacin is an ancient myth. It does nothing to help pass a U/A.
Yeah I've read that a bunch to but I figured both couldn't hurt so what's your opinion on passing the home test at 27 days and then at 40 you think I'm good to go by day 47?
Burnt Toast
12-07-2013, 04:05 AM
Yeah I've read that a bunch to but I figured both couldn't hurt so what's your opinion on passing the home test at 27 days and then at 40 you think I'm good to go by day 47?A home test will give you that answer.
milkman23
12-07-2013, 04:16 AM
A home test will give you that answer.
Well I know I can pass the home test now I have confidence in that but my drug test is being sent to navycorpslab and I've read about many people passing home test but failing the lab ones
Burnt Toast
12-07-2013, 04:21 AM
I've read about many people passing home test but failing the lab ones
I wouldnt place much credence on anecdotal narratives. The lab assays used for the initial screening function on the same principle as the home assays. Therefore, neither are more reliable than the other.
milkman23
12-07-2013, 04:25 AM
I wouldnt place much credence on anecdotal narratives. The lab assays used for the initial screening function on the same principle as the home assays. Therefore, neither are more reliable than the other.
Alright well reading between the lines I should be okay so what do you think about passive second hand smoke that wouldn't really set your cleansing time back?
Burnt Toast
12-07-2013, 04:34 AM
Alright well reading between the lines I should be okay so what do you think about passive second hand smoke that wouldn't really set your cleansing time back?
The topic of secondhand smoke has been addressed and answered many times throughout the DT forum. The Search button is your friend.
Before asking a question or starting a topic, please make use of the Search button to see if a thread already exists for that particular topic. Theres likely that there is. Making full use of the Search button helps keep the DT forum from being all cluttered up with multiple posts/threads that cover the same topic.
milkman23
12-07-2013, 04:38 AM
The topic of secondhand smoke has been addressed and answered many times throughout the DT forum. The Search button is your friend.
Before asking a question or starting a topic, please make use of the Search button to see if a thread already exists for that particular topic. Theres likely that there is. Making full use of the Search button helps keep the DT forum from being all cluttered up with multiple posts/threads that cover the same topic.
Alright man well I appreciate your time knowledge is power and your one powerful hombre thank you
milkman23
12-10-2013, 06:49 PM
I wouldnt place much credence on anecdotal narratives. The lab assays used for the initial screening function on the same principle as the home assays. Therefore, neither are more reliable than the other.
Hey toast I was wondering what your opinion on the RIA vs EMIT test is and whether a chemical analyzer is alot more reliable than a dipstick test
cannacookies
12-10-2013, 07:43 PM
Listen man! If you're burning fat, then the metabolites are going into your system and the water you're drinking is helping your system flush them out. How? Well if you aren't hydrated, you sweat until you pass out... so if you're drinking water, you can keep sweating and running for much longer and not stop which means less traces of weed in you. If you aren't doing exercise and drinking water, then yes it is only good strictly for dilution.
Bottom line is: YOU'RE GOOD TO GO! I just passed a drug test without anything (look at my post in the forums "passing w/o subbing or detox") and I only spent 2 weeks naturally detoxing. I only took 1 test the day before my test and since I came out negative with the first void I decided to reschedule for the same day and get it over with. Oh! and my roommate pretty much hot boxed my apartment 2 days before AND was smoking around me when I came out of my room the morning of the test.
GO GET THAT JOB :D
milkman23
12-10-2013, 08:37 PM
Listen man! If you're burning fat, then the metabolites are going into your system and the water you're drinking is helping your system flush them out. How? Well if you aren't hydrated, you sweat until you pass out... so if you're drinking water, you can keep sweating and running for much longer and not stop which means less traces of weed in you. If you aren't doing exercise and drinking water, then yes it is only good strictly for dilution.
Bottom line is: YOU'RE GOOD TO GO! I just passed a drug test without anything (look at my post in the forums "passing w/o subbing or detox") and I only spent 2 weeks naturally detoxing. I only took 1 test the day before my test and since I came out negative with the first void I decided to reschedule for the same day and get it over with. Oh! and my roommate pretty much hot boxed my apartment 2 days before AND was smoking around me when I came out of my room the morning of the test.
GO GET THAT JOB :D
Thanks for the input man I've passed three drug tests so far one 3 weeks ago one a week ago and one today I even paid a medical place to do one only to see they charged me 94 dollars for a damn dipstick test haha but ya know how it is goin to be worried until I actually pass the real thing I started my fat storing week this week passed the last two with morning void and got the real deal one this Thursday
Burnt Toast
12-10-2013, 09:28 PM
Listen man! If you're burning fat, then the metabolites are going into your system and the water you're drinking is helping your system flush them out. How? Well if you aren't hydrated, you sweat until you pass out... so if you're drinking water, you can keep sweating and running for much longer and not stop which means less traces of weed in you. Drinking a bunch of water in the days leading up to the test is of no help. Contrary to popular belief, water DOES NOT flush your body of THC. THC is not water soluble unlike other types of drugs. THC is fat soluble. THC is stored in the fat cells and remain there until the fat cells are burned for energy. Therefore, you cannot rid THC from fat cells by drinking copius amounts of water. It doesnt work that way.
When fat cells burn, the stored THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream, filtered by the kidneys, and end up in the bladder. The filteration rate of THC metaboltes from the bloodstream by the kidneys is unaffected by copius fluid consumption.
Drinking water only serves to dilute the THCA concentration that is present in the bladder. It does not eliminate the THCA, but instead it "thins out" the concentration in the hoping that the urine sample registers below the cutoff thresholds of a drug screen (thats providing that the THCA concentration is not too high). The dilution phenomena, however, is only temporary - once the water consumed had all been urinated out, the bladder is replenished with fresh THCA-laden urine by the kidneys, and thus the donor is back to square one.
And contrary to popular belief, sweating is hardly of any help because very little THC is excreted via sweat. You can sweat enough to fill many buckets, yet the amount of THC being excreted would still be miniscule. The rest are being excreted via the urine and bowels.
milkman23
12-10-2013, 09:44 PM
Drinking a bunch of water in the days leading up to the test is of no help. Contrary to popular belief, water DOES NOT flush your body of THC. THC is not water soluble unlike other types of drugs. THC is fat soluble. THC is stored in the fat cells and remain there until the fat cells are burned for energy. Therefore, you cannot rid THC from fat cells by drinking copius amounts of water. It doesnt work that way.
When fat cells burn, the stored THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream, filtered by the kidneys, and end up in the bladder. The filteration rate of THC metaboltes from the bloodstream by the kidneys is unaffected by copius fluid consumption.
Drinking water only serves to dilute the THCA concentration that is present in the bladder. It does not eliminate the THCA, but instead it "thins out" the concentration in the hoping that the urine sample registers below the cutoff thresholds of a drug screen (thats providing that the THCA concentration is not too high). The dilution phenomena, however, is only temporary - once the water consumed had all been urinated out, the bladder is replenished with fresh THCA-laden urine by the kidneys, and thus the donor is back to square one.
And contrary to popular belief, sweating is hardly of any help because very little THC is excreted via sweat. You can sweat enough to fill many buckets, yet the amount of THC being excreted would still be miniscule. The rest are being excreted via the urine and bowels.
All well and good mister toast but I still want to know your opinion on RIA vs. Emit I've done a lot of reading and they only seem to say that's RIA is more sensitive I've checked the search like you like us to do and couldn't come up with much and whether chemical analyzers are really that superior to dip stick I've read on that as well and can't get much more than heresay and technical stuff and I haven't seen a drug test for dummies book
cannacookies
12-14-2013, 06:00 AM
Drinking a bunch of water in the days leading up to the test is of no help. Contrary to popular belief, water DOES NOT flush your body of THC. THC is not water soluble unlike other types of drugs. THC is fat soluble. THC is stored in the fat cells and remain there until the fat cells are burned for energy. Therefore, you cannot rid THC from fat cells by drinking copius amounts of water. It doesnt work that way.
When fat cells burn, the stored THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream, filtered by the kidneys, and end up in the bladder. The filteration rate of THC metaboltes from the bloodstream by the kidneys is unaffected by copius fluid consumption.
Drinking water only serves to dilute the THCA concentration that is present in the bladder. It does not eliminate the THCA, but instead it "thins out" the concentration in the hoping that the urine sample registers below the cutoff thresholds of a drug screen (thats providing that the THCA concentration is not too high). The dilution phenomena, however, is only temporary - once the water consumed had all been urinated out, the bladder is replenished with fresh THCA-laden urine by the kidneys, and thus the donor is back to square one.
And contrary to popular belief, sweating is hardly of any help because very little THC is excreted via sweat. You can sweat enough to fill many buckets, yet the amount of THC being excreted would still be miniscule. The rest are being excreted via the urine and bowels.
I understand, to clarify what I'm saying: hydration simply elongates the time one can be working out therefore it is good for your exercising (I drink a gallon a day regardless because of weight training). Yes, sweating won't do anything because of the insolubility of the THC metabolites in water, but obviously working out initiates the fat burning process, and proper hydration combined with a proper diet will ensure it will work. Also, there are clear factors based on biological characteristics of one's own body. (Thanks for your input though, I've read quite a bit of responses you make and you are a positive user in this community! I have read and used your advice :D )
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