cold weather help!

[littlewindy]

Growing in the garage the only source of heatis n the lights. Temps are expected to drop into the teens the next couple of. weeks. Garage temps drop to lower 40 now. I'm worried that it will get too cold. my question is how cold is too cold. I have both a veg side and a bloom side.. how do you protect your babies??

[thenewgrow]

hey man i feel for you :/

- I have heard on this page somewhere that some have been able to grow without for as little as 0 -1 c (but I've never heard of it in other pages where ppl grow out dore) i would say you can pull bud's out in temp's down to around low 60 f but if it goes lower then that. i would do something about it

- If I were you I'd probably end get insipid in a fan heater or just insulate your garage that's only one time you need to spend money on it and rockwool is not so expensive that it would give your the greatest loss of money.

In my opinion it would be worth it :) to just isolate your garage :)

--- Peace out ---

[lipps]

full water jugs place them under the lights among the plants so when the lights are on they collect heat to be release during dark time, the soil is what you need to keep above 55 60 degrees the tops can take near freezing but 40 would be as low to go. they make rigid 4x8 insulation foam panels you can get em at a building supply store you could make a box that you could put the plants in at night or a box for the whole grow........good luck

[tlranger]

Remember that electric heater puts of enough light to bite you, Have found some thing called an oil filled radiator that works well, there is a light to cover with tape

[thenewgrow]

Remember that electric heater puts of enough light to bite you, Have found some thing called an oil filled radiator that works well, there is a light to cover with tape

an electric heater do not even light lol ^^ not 1 single light on the 4 difrent electric heather we have in this home ?

[Shovelhandle]

Some infrared heaters put out visible light in the red spectrum. That's why you can see it. These are very popular and they will fuck up your grow. Little lights like on my oil filled electric radiator also can cause problems. Put black tape over them.

[thenewgrow]

then is must be some old shit that you guys are using . sorry to say :/ who put's a light in a electric radiator or an electric heather it makes no sense . ( and i have never seen that in my life time not even in electric shop's ) so must be some old one's you guys use for that :)




but just insulate your garage that's only one time you need to spend money

and after a year or 2 you would have use the same money on electric to your heater or radiator.

[tlranger]

The light on my modern oil filled(which is great electric wise) as a little red dot(light) to tell you when it's plugged in. Another tell say thremosat said go to work. But half inch of black electric tape and you'll be good

[tlranger]

but just insulate your garage that's only one time you need to spend money

and after a year or 2 you would have use the same money on electric to your heater or radiator.[/QUOTE]

How do you cool in summer

[Schrodingers Cat]

A little different approach, if you have room around your girls...... I would place a barrier between your pot and the small compost pot.

Composting for Your Pumpkin Patch
The best stuff that I believe you can put into your pumpkin patch is compost. I'm no expert on composting but there really isn't to much too it. Basically I like to take manure, alfalfa pellets, leaves and build them up into a nicely layered pile. I then spread some organic fertilizer in the pile (I used some leftover Happy Frog brand fertilizer that has some bacteria in the mix) and then poured 5 gallons of compost tea over it to help heat it up quickly (this step isn't necessary, but I think it might help the process go faster). The heat in the compost pile is generated by mesophilic microorganisms which rapidly break down the soluble, readily degradable compounds. The heat they produce causes the compost temperature to rapidly rise.

As the temperature rises above about 103°F,

to read more on pumpkins
Giant Pumpkin Growing Tips From The Pumpkin Man: Composting for Your Pumpkin Patch (http://denverpumpkins.com/2009/01/composting-for-your-pumpkin-patch.html)

[Schrodingers Cat]

Be care though, gas given off can over come you. Do not go in enclosed area with it, keep well vented when near.

[Poncho 'Milla]

The light on my modern oil filled(which is great electric wise) as a little red dot(light) to tell you when it's plugged in. Another tell say thremosat said go to work. But half inch of black electric tape and you'll be good

Ranger's got it, those oil filled radiators rock. When we lived in a century-old farmhouse we had one in each bedroom and the living room all winter, never once had to run the whole-house heat. They don't seem to have a noticeable impact on humidity in the room either

[tlranger]

[quote=Schrodingers Cat]A little different approach, if you have room around your girls...... I would place a barrier between your pot and the small compost pot.

Heat my unheated pole shed, with compost, and grow lights. Then summer its under a large oak tree, and fans suffice

[littlewindy]

Thanks guys. so this Is what I'm getting: heatp the soil not the plant anything under 40 is too cold and watch the lights on all heat sources that I?? miss anything??

[OMB]

Another +1 for the oil filled radiator looking heaters. The other thing you can do, (if you are split across the middle of you space) is make sure either your flower or veg lights are on all night to add heat. I had to "flip flop" my lighting to solve the same problem. That way one set is on all night and I draw air from that level to heat the other level using fans and ducting.
With outside temps in the 20's the top never gets below 70 degree's, and the bottom, (flower) never gets below 60. Seems to work well for me....but what a headache for awhile while I worked it out!
5 fans, lot's of ducting, but done. Then again, when temps change drastically, I will have to readjust!
Insulating the garage is sounding better and better. Listen to catbuds, she knows her shit.

[tlranger]

With two rooms, don't you keep them on similar cycles, realizing that the bloom room will have less time. But to turn them on the head light wise has caused me fluffy broken buds, and hermies.

Probably as many reasons to grow indoors as out, mainly because of crooks and cops and our course friends

[tlranger]

Was just shown u tube, guy uses two flower pots (one inverted over other) with a candle inside to heat a room. Would also emit co2 I quess. But with the temp in the single digits here, I require a few more btu's

[CaptainOrganicsCO]

Ahhh the cold snap is here. I grow in an attic and the room requires additional heat in the winter months(more than just the lights). Cannabis can survive at pretty amazingly cold temps. That is survive, not flourish, not even grow at all if too cold, just sit there and hang on.
You wanna grow nice nugs in your garage room you WILL have to buy and use a heater, period.
Environment(temp, RH) the single most important factors in indoor growing. Get the environ right and then and only then will your room really start producing nicely for you.

[CaptainOrganicsCO]

Let me add another point on room temp. Lets assume one is growing organically in soil. The whole idea we have is to create a living soil with a diverse micro herd to basically care for our plants for us. So we take care of and feed the soil, in turn the soil takes care of and feeds our plants. The microbes won't function well and will die off with sustained cold temps. There's the plant, still alive in the pot in the cold room, but it ain't gonna work like we wanted it too.

I think as far as acceptable low temps, 55 with the lights off is the lowest you should ever allow, and yes allow, because the successful indoor grower must be able to completely control the growing environment.

[catbuds]

Remember that electric heater puts of enough light to bite you, Have found some thing called an oil filled radiator that works well, there is a light to cover with tape

Ranger, you're absolutely right in this & ALL you've posted to this thread. For now ALL my heat is from 3 brand new portable space heaters. One is an oil filled radiant heater & they ALL have little red indicator lights, high, med & low settings. If anything, the older ones would be more likely to NOT have these indicator lights. :(