Nube HELP...Nube HELP..I want to save the guy!! your help is greatly appreciated!

[SmokeRowSmoke]

I Have a (im almost certain) pure Sativa ( bagseed)
Here are a few details:

3 cfl bulbs at 13w and totaled to 360v
I added the other 2 at the start of 12/12
(My first issue is probably the lighting, even though many have said it looks healthy)...well at least untill now LOL

4 gallon pot, with rocks at the bottom to help drainage, with a tub to catch water Marical grow soil mixed with regular compost soil from home depot


My closet is 7ft

I don't have any yellowing except the few leaves that were too close to the cfls lights. I also have two reflective sheets on the wall.

This is my first grow and I tried to do it being as frugal as I can. The problem im experiencing is that my leaves at the top have drooped. Im aware that sativa is not ideal for a first time grower, but its for personal and I at least want a decent turnout.

I've used the pruning technique. Im only 2 weeks into 12/12.

LOL don't laugh at my plant y'all, I've really been trying. Can any body give and suggestions on what I should/shouldn't do. I would really appreciate it!!!!!

P.s. Experienced gonja smoker, but pure amateur at growing, check the pictures!! Thanks

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[1st timer]

Definately more light required.
The money you spend on bulbs is not a waste as you use them for your next grow.
The return on investment will make you happy

[Shovelhandle]

grow cheap, don't expect much harvest. there is no magic, sorry. enjoy the experience though.

[growdemon]

from the looks of your pics. i would say.
1. your light is in the wrong spot. looks like your light is on the side or bottom, leaf's move towards the direction the light is emiting from. (light movers are kinda cool for this reason)
2. for 7ft , your going to need about 8 to 12-15+ cfl bulbs to cover that large of a space 24+ wats or more per bulb, about 8 on the top, and rest on the sides for the lower branches
3. looks like a male, male plants droop like this and grow long
4. rule of thumb. 2000+ lumen per sq foot, thats the least a plant needs to grow & flower, anything lower than 2000 lumen, your lucky to get any swag
5. cfl lighting does not travel a very far distance so you need alot to penetrate large plants


6. if you clustered about 4 bulbs together you will have better light rather than a single bulbs spread out. they cluster together and create a more solid light array

i did a grow once, 1 plant 2 incandecence(not HPS/MH) bulbs 150w & 250w (this was before cfl's came out) about 9000 lumen and the plant produced well. grew to about 4-5 ft, heat was the only issue, i had 1 lamp 250 on top and 150w for the lower side area
I'm running about 14 25w cfl's these days in a 3x3x8 area with 25,000 lumen
check my profile for my other posts ive posted about clf's in other threads.

[SmokeRowSmoke]

grow cheap, don't expect much harvest. there is no magic, sorry. enjoy the experience though.

Thanks, So is lighting my main issue, because besides the drooping I don't seem to have any yellowing or root rot. Also I wasn't expecting much anyway considering the strain. Im thinking 240w or more ???

[SmokeRowSmoke]

from the looks of your pics. i would say.
1. your light is in the wrong spot. looks like your light is on the side or bottom, leaf's move towards the direction the light is emiting from. (light movers are kinda cool for this reason)
2. for 7ft , your going to need about 8 to 12-15+ cfl bulbs to cover that large of a space 24+ wats or more per bulb, about 8 on the top, and rest on the sides for the lower branches
3. looks like a male, male plants droop like this and grow long
4. rule of thumb. 2000+ lumen per sq foot, thats the least a plant needs to grow & flower, anything lower than 2000 lumen, your lucky to get any swag
5. cfl lighting does not travel a very far distance so you need alot to penetrate large plants


6. if you clustered about 4 bulbs together you will have better light rather than a single bulbs spread out. they cluster together and create a more solid light array

i did a grow once, 1 plant 2 incandecence(not HPS/MH) bulbs 150w & 250w (this was before cfl's came out) about 9000 lumen and the plant produced well. grew to about 4-5 ft, heat was the only issue, i had 1 lamp 250 on top and 150w for the lower side area
I'm running about 14 25w cfl's these days in a 3x3x8 area with 25,000 lumen
check my profile for my other posts ive posted about clf's in other threads.



Thanks, this helps a lot. So unless If i absolutely want to use cfls, I need lots more, if not its looking like I need stronger bulbs anyway, even incondecence Should topping continue in flowing stage, im two weeks in 12/12??

P.s. thanks a lot, I don't want him to die

[growdemon]

you could get a 150w hps or even a 250w hps. I kind got stuck on the cfl's due to thier low heat dissapation

if you had 4-6 bulbs at the top about 4-8 inches above your plant with good fan blowing around, leave the side ones you already got
just add some at the top you should be good to go

i am 2 weeks into flower also, i just added 4 more bulbs for side lighting 24w 1750 lumen each
more pics in my profile photo albums

cheers!
-growdemon

[built2spill]

If your in flower you should not be doing any more pruning. Keep the plant energy concentrated on producing flowers and not more branching.