grow #1

[can-na-bis]

hello all. i have been on here for about a month and have read and read thread after thread before i started. hear is my experience with growing so far 15-20 years ago i tried to grow a few bag seeds and they grew about 3 inches and died. did it again and the same results. now reading all this info on here i think they were root bound in little containers. so now here i go again. i have 10 cheese bomb that i got from gorilla and planted 3 of them 6/22 they are in my basement at 65 deg at 66 humidity with 2 cfls over them.i have them on all the time unless someone has better idea. they are in natural and organic happy frog dirt that has composted forest humus,peat mos, perlite, earth worm castings, bat guano, humic acid, oyster shell and dolomite lime. in 4"x4"x4" containers. I named them A, Band C but my girl is calling them Albert, Einstein, and Mutt. lol so B and C are growing good with what i would call a little stretch so i took A out and planted it deeper almost up to the first round leaves, as per a videio i found around here. will be doing the the same to C. now the mutt B i must have not planted deep enough and upside down it was all messed up so i took it out and planted it best i could. hear are some pics of all of them.

B. aka Albert
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/IMG_0368_zpsf14ae9af.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/IMG_0368_zpsf14ae9af.jpg.html)

C. aka Einstein
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/IMG_0370_zpsd9c3f33f.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/IMG_0370_zpsd9c3f33f.jpg.html)

A. aka Mutt
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/IMG_0369_zps796a362a.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/IMG_0369_zps796a362a.jpg.html)

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/IMG_0371_zps0fec755e.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/IMG_0371_zps0fec755e.jpg.html)

grow area. waiting for grow tent to arrive any day.
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/IMG_0372_zpsb9b3c5a8.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/IMG_0372_zpsb9b3c5a8.jpg.html)

[can-na-bis]

also what should the PH be at?

[jeubzzz]

Nice grow, the ph should be around 6 wich is one down from neutral. Pot likes it to be a bit acidic.:stoned:

[lipps]

They look like they're trying to get away from the light , what's the temp at plant level? Happy Frog is not the best for seedlings it's pretty hot and they don't need hot this early.

[can-na-bis]

thank you jeubzzz

[can-na-bis]

They look like they're trying to get away from the light , what's the temp at plant level? Happy Frog is not the best for seedlings it's pretty hot and they don't need hot this early.

temp is floating between 72-74deg. they grew tall fast and i was turning them so they would grow straight (not enough lights) i put some shiny tin foil over them and that helped out a lot.

[can-na-bis]

Mutt didnt make it but the other 2 are doing great.;)

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/7-1b_zps1d2ced74.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/7-1b_zps1d2ced74.jpg.html)

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/IMG_0375_zps37bbd266.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/IMG_0375_zps37bbd266.jpg.html)

[can-na-bis]

how long should i leave them under the cfl's? and when should i stop the 24/0 and go to 18/6 light cycle?

[can-na-bis]

Nice grow, the ph should be around 6 wich is one down from neutral. Pot likes it to be a bit acidic.:stoned:

what would be good to lower it?

[Shovelhandle]

I suggest pH down. Don't bother with home remedies like vinegar. It will lower the pH for a minute but it won't be stable. 24/0 or 18/6, both are light schedules for the vegetative cycle. Either / or

[can-na-bis]

I suggest pH down. Don't bother with home remedies like vinegar. It will lower the pH for a minute but it won't be stable. 24/0 or 18/6, both are light schedules for the vegetative cycle. Either / or

thank you


i have them on 24/0 right now when should i switch to 18/6?

[Shovelhandle]

wtf, over?

normally one would use a light schedule of greater than 16 hours of light a day and stay with that until they go to bloom cycle. I've seen great commercial grows using either 24/0 or 18/6. Take your pick, or change half way through, if that's what you want to do.

[can-na-bis]

next question at what point should i put them under my 1000w mh?

[Shovelhandle]

Until they are quite a bit larger the cfl lamps should be fine, what size are these cfls?
Continue to update your grow log with photos weekly so we can see how they are doing. :smokin:

[can-na-bis]

Until they are quite a bit larger the cfl lamps should be fine, what size are these cfls?
Continue to update your grow log with photos weekly so we can see how they are doing. :smokin:

2-1300lumus

[Shovelhandle]

1300 lumus is good.

[can-na-bis]

day 14.

first day they get nuts
fox farm grow big
6-4-4 at half dose
PH at 6.5
temp 81*
R/H 62

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/7-7a_zpsa7fc9b42.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/7-7a_zpsa7fc9b42.jpg.html)

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http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/7-7b2_zpsfd7a9f9c.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/7-7b2_zpsfd7a9f9c.jpg.html)

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[can-na-bis]

at what point should i put them into bigger pots?

[thomas2681]

Just check your root base weekly . When you start to see more root circle around the root ball its time to change to a bigger pot .

[can-na-bis]

how about when should i put them under my 1000w MH?

[thomas2681]

I'm not sure I'm only about two or three weeks ahead of you from the look of your plants mine are still under 8 CFL an growing good

[Esteban1]

You have a bunch of time to ponder switching lighting visa vie cfl to mh or whichever you prefer. At this point stay the course with a 24/0 - light schedule & no nutes are needed for at least after 30 days or so (plenty Nutrients in your soil will get them thru the hump). You can transplant into 1 gallon container right up to flower & ya may wanna repot into 3- 5 gallon containers. Until then peace!

:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

well you have two seedlings to put under a 1000 watt light. It costs about $100/mo. to run the light for 18hrs/day. You can transplant into no bigger than 1 gallon as you're going to need to transplant again later and anything larger than 1 gallon is difficult to handle without disrupting the roots. Then you can go to as large as possible to make use of that light. At least a 100 quart tote for each? Dollies will help if you need to move them at all. Probably veg for 3 months or more and then bloom 12hrs/day of 100w HPS for 8 or more weeks. That should produce a good yield for two plants.
I would not go to 1000 watt MH quite yet.

[Shovelhandle]

that should be 1000 watts HPS, where's my edit button?

[can-na-bis]

day 21.

using the same half dose of nuts.

PH at 6.5
temp 79*
r/h 59%

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/canabis6872/IMG_0443_zpsdc472385.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/canabis6872/media/IMG_0443_zpsdc472385.jpg.html)

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[can-na-bis]

day 28.

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