View Full Version : Quick Fix AND Dilution for friday's test
sawtoothwave
06-18-2013, 03:15 PM
I smoked a half O about 2 months ago and have been working out since. 2.5 weeks ago I smoked a half an 8th and the weed is still in my system. I'm testing myself on Thursday right in the morning to see if all the stuff is out of my system, but if not, i'm prepared.
I bought creatine off amazon, as well as quick fix from the website. My test will be in Minnesota for a railroad company. In case i'm watched, i'll pee regular diluted pee, and if not, i'll use the quick fix.
I'm just really nervous about both of the techniques. Mostly due to the gravity test, and if the lab can tell that it's fake piss. I heard that if they shake it, and it doesn't foam, they know right away.
Anyways, I'll update this when I find out if I passed or not. For now, i'm so nervous I feel sick. I'm not sleeping very well. Wish me luck!
sawtoothwave
06-18-2013, 05:32 PM
Or, should I use a relative's clean pee instead? I keep hearing that synthetic pee (quick fix) can be picked up decently at labs. I don't know which lab I'm going to go to though :/.
I hope to get a few responses to ease my anxiety :D
sawtoothwave
06-18-2013, 05:57 PM
One thing I forgot to add is I will also have to take a physical. I can say "I have to pee really bad can I take the drug test first" and hopefully they will allow me to go and sub. Then I will have to hide the bottle somewhere so they don't find it at the physical. If it's anything like other pysical's, they will cup your balls and make you cough, meaning I can't re-hide it in my gooch.
Also, there is the faintest of faintest lines on my at home drug tests. Perhaps I am finally coming clean? Dilution method would work better with me being almost clean. If I had to re-take the test, i'd be farther along.
So many possible scenario's to consider and I don't even know if i'll get the job LOL
Man I am stressing out
Burnt Toast
06-18-2013, 07:00 PM
I'm just really nervous about both of the techniques. Mostly due to the gravity test, and if the lab can tell that it's fake piss. I heard that if they shake it, and it doesn't foam, they know right away.
Anyone with a background in urology would understand that some human samples can exhibit a no-foam condition. So therefore, it would be erroneous to conclude that a given urine sample is "synthetic" simply because the sample wont foam.
As far as the Specific Gravity tests, an unexpired, untampered synthetic batch that had been stored properly will register a satisfactory S/G. You can run your own S/G test on the synthetic with a validity test strip. These inexpensive kits are found by doing a Google search for "drug adulteration test kits".
sawtoothwave
06-18-2013, 07:13 PM
Anyone with a background in urology would understand that some human samples can exhibit a no-foam condition. So therefore, it would be erroneous to conclude that a given urine sample is "synthetic" simply because the sample wont foam.
As far as the Specific Gravity tests, an unexpired, untampered synthetic batch that had been stored properly will register a satisfactory S/G. You can run your own S/G test on the synthetic with a validity test strip. These inexpensive kits are found by doing a Google search for "drug adulteration test kits".
Thank you for the reply. I just got off the phone with a quick fix rep who said my batch #, which is P4GGG-13C) is new and no issues as of yet. She said wv, oregon, california, another state i forgot, washington and hawaii test for uric acid only. Minnesota does not. So that is good.
She did say that SOME labs can flag it for not foaming and test further, but did not mention that they can tell if it's not real pee. I'm 50/50 on whether I should use quick fix or my relative's pee, since she has been clean for over 30 years.
Burnt Toast
06-18-2013, 07:42 PM
She did say that SOME labs can flag it for not foaming and test furtherI would place more credence on established biological fact rather than words coming out of the mouth if some product rep. Who's to say that shes not saying all of this in an effort to spur sales of the Canadian QF? Even if they went on the test further, an unexpired batch will still clear the validity checks as perscribed by the SAMHSA division of the DHHS (the regulatory body that oversees operations of certified labs) - in which Uric Acid is NOT part of. There are no standards established for Uric Acid, as they are for S/G and creatinine. Therefore, its improper for a lab to fail a sample without having any established standards to go by. All labs certified by the DHHS have to perform the validity tests perscribed and must apply the criteria for "substituted" samples as outlined by the DHHS.
sawtoothwave
06-25-2013, 02:15 PM
Just wanted to update. I was ready to sub but they didn't drug test me. I might have to come in this week or possibly next week, once my e-railsafe badge is approved. I just took a test this morning and still failed :(. I've been working out quite a bit for a month and a half and lost 22 lbs, but apparently not enough. I'm going to keep running and lifting and we'll see what happens. I'm prepared to sub again.
I warmed it up to above 100 and had it between my crotch for 1.5 hours. It was 99 or 100ish when I took it out. Fastforward one hour sitting on the seat with the AC on, it was 91. So if anybody is worrying about it staying temp, just rubber band a handwarmer to it and don't worry AT ALL.
Will update again once I'm clean or if I sub.
stillsmoken2
06-25-2013, 02:29 PM
You have to be close to being clean , don't test your first urine , if you dilute yourself , use the creatine and vit b2 for color . Don't work out the day before the test .
stillsmoken2
06-25-2013, 02:58 PM
Read your drug test instructions . Marijuana line is always faint . The instructions say any line no matter how faint is negative .
sawtoothwave
06-25-2013, 04:02 PM
Read your drug test instructions . Marijuana line is always faint . The instructions say any line no matter how faint is negative .
Thanks. I re-took the test 3 hours later and i had a noticably visible faint line. The recruiter called me and I take the test "by friday". So I am going to work out til Thursday and take it Friday morning.
I THINK i'm good but I CANNOT fail so I might sub anyway. I didn't expect him to call so soon lol.
EDIT: I'll take a picture before I go to work on my third piss of the day so you guys can judge the line. Gotta mow the lawn/run/abs/walk dog.
sawtoothwave
06-26-2013, 02:44 PM
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Looks good to me! This was first of the day with no dilution the night before. Mid stream however. I have 10 tests left so i'll need to pass all 10 for me not to sub.
Also, I ran 4 miles yesterday and sweat in my factory job. Would you say it's safe for me to keep lifting/running this week?
sawtoothwave
07-09-2013, 04:15 AM
Well I went in today without subbing so we'll see if I pass. I will update it.
Question. How come I didn't see her check the temperature? She split up the urine into two tubes and sealed them right away. I didn't check the cup that closely, but I didn't see a temperature strip. Do you think it's possible that for a non federal test they don't check that? I was curious, not that I had anything to worry about.
justcruzin
08-12-2013, 05:51 PM
A foam test is not a valid laboratory test, also a smell test is not either. Depending on what you eat and drink can determine the amount of foam (if at all) or smell (if at all). Drink a lot of beer --- foam and no smell, eat a lot of asparagus --- terrible smell and a lot of foam. drink a whole lot of water and eat nothing but vegetables --- no foam and no smell. No foam can flag it for more testing, but it cannot be used for an actual failure. They have to find some actual chemical reason to fail a person. Something that can be put into writing and specific levels can be read. So far there is no scale or level for the absence of smell and foam.
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