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tlranger

01-16-2014, 03:18 AM

Yes, but when the world didn't end on 1-1-20. It immediately became something I wanted, this was a steel single axle truck box, think 18', but that was a while back now. Easy to gravity feed water, lights supply heat(no extra anytime). Mold can be a problem but blow lots of fresh air in. Boys did total redo this winter. New floor, New paint, moved some stuff around, cannot wait till heart heals some need to get back to work. Sump pump to keep dry, has worked hard several times.
Started as four tube 6"white plastic hydro system, but after two years went to dirt in 5 gallon buckets. Have since gone to one gallon sog like system, usually something to harvest and replace with veggers once a month.

Family and neighbors can still use the root cellar for those nasty tornadoes. Use to be five people knew where, now four. All in the family.

tlranger

01-16-2014, 03:25 AM

Have often thought, I should have gone with shipping container. Think would have been stronger, less wall bow.

d00g

01-16-2014, 03:35 AM

Have often thought, I should have gone with shipping container. Think would have been stronger, less wall bow.

Ever watch Doomsday Preppers on tv? Everyone buys the shipping containers and buries them, ventilates, adds some sort of water system, bathrooms, etc. Fun stuff but I doubt anyone could sanely live in one of those with any more than one other person for more than a few months max. Definitely very strong.

tlranger

01-16-2014, 03:42 AM

Number one son, was three container house above ground.

Sorry ment the world didn't end on, 1-1-00, case anyone was worried about the future.

crystaliscious

01-16-2014, 03:00 PM

Wonder if an old septic tank could be converted???? Sewer just went in around here there are hundereds of them just sitting underground….hmmm...

tlranger

01-16-2014, 03:11 PM

Wonder if an old septic tank could be converted???? Sewer just went in around here there are hundereds of them just sitting underground….hmmm...

Been there, done that. Mine was clean starting out. Small, very low ceiling for working, and cold, but was using flor because distances where so small. Why I went bigger.

budbro28

01-16-2014, 04:11 PM

Wonder if an old septic tank could be converted???? Sewer just went in around here there are hundereds of them just sitting undergroundâ?¦.hmmm...
um no way.....you want to use an OLD septic tank lol....come on lets think this through...yea great concept....but a shit tank?> especially an old one...i dont care who you are i have worked for a septic company...you know the guys who literally come and vaccum your shit out of the ground....yea...that was me in high school...for a summer...i think i lost about 30 lbs in the first week of fluid weight lol but yea good luck getting that to a tolerable smell level....:thumbsup: hahaha sorry to laugh but this made me chuckle...wanna know why they are STILL IN THE GROUND? cause they full of shit LOL OLD shit at that..oh man im borderline tears here

tlranger

01-16-2014, 05:28 PM

Which is why I bought a brand new one, buried it myself. Even used my own backhoe, stayed way away from a lateral system. This year was involved in a sewer system repair job, supervising backhoe(digging). When it came time to open and clean out, said see you later guys. Plus like I said, didn't work for me, I still wonder how you guys grow in very small area.

catbuds

01-16-2014, 05:29 PM

Da toker, check this out, started as y2k shelter, found better use when nothing happened.

-- Thought it had that under ground bunker look to it! ;)

tlranger

01-16-2014, 05:41 PM

-- Thought it had that under ground bunker look to it! ;)

Yes, no light leaks:joint1: but it limits selling the place.

catbuds

01-16-2014, 05:45 PM

Hey Ranger! I'm likin' this thread! How is it I just now found it?
-- Budbro.... you made me laugh till it hurt! Your right on about the smell! Remember when I was a little kid. Dad & his friend had to dig (back hoe) ours up because it had ruptured. Nosey daddys girl that I was, I stood there till they got the ground opened up. Ran in the house crying! It smelled so bad it burned my eyes! Couldn't get the smell out of my nose for hours! Yep! Leave those bitches in the ground! Dead & burried! Hahaha! ;) ;) ;)

tlranger

01-16-2014, 05:53 PM

It had kinda died, but token asked a question, so I brought it back.

catbuds

01-16-2014, 05:54 PM

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:You're not thinking of selling are you? That was a rhetorical statement, right? Sounds too perfect to think of leaving there! :(

crystaliscious

01-16-2014, 06:02 PM

Haha @ Budbro! Good points lol That's one way to booby trap a grow…...

tlranger

01-16-2014, 06:45 PM

Baby girl is in last semester of nursing school, moving to Colorado to do the midwife thing. Wants to be there at the beginning instead of the end. Mother thinks we should follow, or build on- thinks a dome would be cool. But Colorado would be cool to(or cold).

budbro28

01-16-2014, 06:48 PM

im trying to talk my lady to get out of nc but family ties hinder everything...

tlranger

01-16-2014, 06:53 PM

im trying to talk my lady to get out of nc but family ties hinder everything...

Boy they sure do! That's why I've gone to so much trouble, cause I love growing. Some have suggested I get out after my last deal, but even the wife thinks that would kill me.

d00g

01-16-2014, 06:59 PM

im trying to talk my lady to get out of nc but family ties hinder everything...

Ha my wife wants to move to NC but I don't want to. She hates all the snow here in Boston but when it snows, I do all the shoveling and driving anyways.

budbro28

01-16-2014, 07:33 PM

dont quit growing a plant....there is NOTHING wrong in what we ALL love to do or enjoy being around so much...this country is slowly killing its self....rules so we follow other rules...gay as fuck...anyone wanna go in on a tropical island? lol

budbro28

01-16-2014, 07:41 PM

hey range...i was reading some of your posts and saw you raise gold fish...do you have or have you ever done an AQUAPONIC setup...not for weed or anything but just in general? a family member is about to open an aquaponic shop and uses tilapia...its so awesome...wish i had my own house and greenhouse so i could do one....out of all my hobbies (flying motorcycles and all other adrenaline shit) growing is what my wife wishes id stick with the most...just had a good girlfriend get WRECKED (broke the ball off hip hip, shattered femur and arm...driver **her boyfriend...good buddy of mine**ended up passing away instantly) on a motorcycle, and with trying to have kids shes all like "time to grow up and get a hobby that cant kill you" ..... sad i know....off that tangent ive been looking into aquaponics/growing weed/ANYTHING as my replacement hobby...cause once a baby is here and im not in CO adios MJ in the house...

tlranger

01-16-2014, 09:18 PM

Budb -fish are too control mosquitoes in rainwater collection tanks, yea rainwater(they only get distilled water when I initially fill the clone machine) then it's rain water the rest of the way(no acid rain here yet). Used to be the guy that took care of the tap water for rural water district, to many state meetings about what you need to put in for me to use. Even hate to shower in it but do. All the rest is double filtered.
After reading and following thread I pointed out for you, really wanted to fill the swimming pool with plants but the higher authority around here said no, so I K.I.S.S. my way through most things. Lots of things I want to try though.

catbuds

01-17-2014, 05:47 AM

Ranger, I didn't know you grow SOG, 1 gal pots. For some reason, I thought you grew the big girls..?.. Must be those greenhouse pictures stuck in my head.
-- That would be a hard decision to make: go where its legal, or stay with the well established farm complete with under ground 'bunker'. Maybe move to the most southern point of Co, find a sm farm out in the boonies. Install another 'bunker' or two, made from shipping containers this time. Then grow your 6 'legal' plants in plain view, hide the rest & its business as usual. That would take a lot of hard work/money & time, then you would need to acclimate both yourself & your techniques to suit a new climate. Unless you became licensed to grow for the legal trade..... IMO, you seem too well rooted to transplant well. :)
-- I've noticed we both show our age by using old school farmers terms like 'throwbacks'. Funny how us & the younguns can be talking the same thing, but hardly understand a thing the other is saying! (Phenotype? What the hell is a phenotype!?!?....Ohhhh... you mean a throwback? Ahhh, kids now a days. Hahaha!) So many techniques that have been around for hundreds of years suddenly have new names & now the younguns think they've invented the technique! Funny thing, but its the same with sex! They think we did it in the dark & got it over with as fast as possible, that THEY are the ones who discovered its fun. So this past summer, I gave a kid my copy of the karma sutra. Next time I saw him, I asked, so how was the book? He just blushed & looked at the ground! Yep! Kids now a days..... whatcha gonna do? ;) ;) ;)

tlranger

01-17-2014, 02:53 PM

Cat-Like you've said, best fit for the place. If I did a cali grow here my neighbors would sh#t. Hard enough to hide my outside garden. Have gone at least part of gambit. Started in tubes-hydro, went to 5 gal double bucket constant flow hydro 12/side, ebb and flow tables (homemade) worked pretty good. Then used the 5 gal buckets with soil, just so hard to move through system!

Cloning cut time, and increased plant numbers possible without males. Then settling on one really lovable lady, made the one gallon-bunch of plants attractive. Took a while to get my dirt the way I wanted, but then was able to stop buying all the ferts! Now my only real cost is equipment replacement and electricity. But being in the same place so long does worry me sometimes.

kids now days.... whatcha gonna do? Been trying to educate them since I left college, figured out was my calling and job.

Peace lady friend, hope life gets easier and yes do like the big girls!

budbro28

01-17-2014, 03:13 PM

Funny thing, but its the same with sex! They think we did it in the dark & got it over with as fast as possible, that THEY are the ones who discovered its fun. So this past summer, I gave a kid my copy of the karma sutra. Next time I saw him, I asked, so how was the book? He just blushed & looked at the ground! Yep! Kids now a days..... whatcha gonna do? ;) ;) ;)

haha AWESOME!

tlranger

01-17-2014, 03:44 PM

AWESOME!

Your avitar, that is!! No wonder you take care it.

catbuds

01-17-2014, 04:29 PM

I see your point about 'the same place for too long'. Very valid indeed. If you have enough 'hands' to do all the manual labor while you supervise, a major move may be a good thing. But if you decide to do it, take it slow & easy & make sure you have enough pot in your pocket for the times you feel stressed. Just don't give up that backhoe in the move. You'll need it for building the 'bunker' when you get there! I think if you make that move, you'll definitely want to become a licensed grower.... you know, big grow, keeping it legal & GREENHOUSES! Hahaha! Damned! I nearly have MYSELF talked into going! ;) ;) ;)

catbuds

01-17-2014, 05:36 PM

Ranger, I can picture in my mind what would happen if either one of us had those big cali type grows! Something right out of Cheech & Chong! First, we'd have dead neighbors all over their lawns.( they'd drop dead from shock). Then we'd have a big bunch of cop cars crashing into each other, just trying to get to the scene because the reports would NOT be believable. Ehhh... but then we'd go to prison!
-- Once you've done those big grows, going small just hurts your heart & soul, don't you think? The difference between the two is about as great as growing orchids & tomatoes. Guess I'm just feeling it more this year because my outdoor grow was ripped last year, but I really need to get my hands in the dirt & grow some big girls soon! Maybe I'd be happy with a 'bunker' like yours... can I borrow your backhoe? Hahaha! :)

tlranger

01-18-2014, 04:26 PM

If I go, it will be to become legal. Been trying to get a handle on their ins and outs. Couple of concerts at red rocks and talking to locals have just left me confused. Realize the first step will be to find out what the local areas rules will be. But some of the ground I've seen really trips my trigger.

But the other side of the coin, was one of my rangers buying a mountain top in the next state and you got to help me out! No rest for the wicked.

budbro28

01-19-2014, 04:47 PM

lets start a bunker building business

OMB

01-19-2014, 06:01 PM

lets start a bunker building business

I am so in! I have lot's of construction skills...we can all go live on a Mountain top, grow beautiful plants and thumb our noses at authority.
Neighbor's keeling over and cop cars crashing is just the "bonus".....God, I can see it all now. :thumbsup:....beautiful.

Chromophore

01-19-2014, 06:37 PM

Don't forget about us up here in WA. We've got some pretty nice mountaintops up here as well.:) But I fear things in WA will not go the way of independent grow ops. The way a lot of people in the State government are talking they want to turn the whole thing into a State-run mega-grow operations and squeeze out small and mid-tier growers. We are going to end up with a Wal-Mart mentality with product being bred and mass-produced with little imagination or creativity. It's still being debated, but there is a possibility they will try to criminalize personal grows.

OMB

01-19-2014, 06:48 PM

Yep...Big government controlled large grows with a few people controlling it all. It could have been a great thing, but noooooo.....as usual, the Government will fuck it all up.
I-502 cuts MMJ grows and possession limits.So what was a victory for recreational use is another step towards further control on MMJ patients and grower's.
GREEDY BIG GOVERNMENT!!!
The end price for consumer's will be much more than street pricing...which is contradictory to intent. Look at Colorado, so much for eliminating "Black market" grows.
"Joe blow" should be able to grow some plants at home for personal enjoyment without fear of life wrecking felony charges.
This Country needs a "Cleansing" of the Government.

tlranger

01-19-2014, 08:08 PM

Damn chromo and to think I wanted to apply for the pot czar job.

Chromophore

01-19-2014, 08:14 PM

Do it ranger. We need you!

d00g

01-20-2014, 12:18 AM

"Joe blow" should be able to grow some plants at home for personal enjoyment without fear of life wrecking felony charges.
This Country needs a "Cleansing" of the Government.

While I do agree that the government is certainly going forward with legalization/decriminalization with full profiteering and maximum pocket-filling benefits in mind, I also feel like I can continue my current and ALL future (small) home grows without fear of "life wrecking felony charges". It may be because I live in an area whose newspapers' Police Log sections (my FAVORITE section to read and look for people I went to school with over morning cereal!) are filled with meth, weapons, and heroin-related arrests; they are no longer as concerned with our favorite, non-habit forming plant. This is not to say that they wouldn't happily fuck my life up if I decided to fill my spare bedroom with 75-100 happily blooming plants, but I'm not going to do that (...until I become more experienced through doing with my small cabinet grows). Maybe I am naive because I have not done a big grow yet, which would make me much more paranoid.

Now I need to roll up a fatty of some stinky cheese-smelling new bud to lament the end of the season for the Patriots :mad:

catbuds

01-20-2014, 01:34 AM

D00G, all it takes to become paranoid is having just one fuck wad comming into your home saying, give me some pot or I'll have you busted. I never intentionally showed anybody. Its the ass holes who walk into your house without knocking & catching you tending your grow. I've been caught at it three different times. Only threatened the one time, but still..... I've never told anybody they were welcome to enter without knocking. I hate that shit! Now I'm in the habit of keeping my doors locked. But point being, paranoia can be FORCED on you very quickly! Regardless of the size of your grow.
-- Damned! I wanna go to Colorado. :(

Steven Rober

01-22-2014, 09:02 AM

looks so good ,I want

tlranger

01-22-2014, 11:35 AM

Now I'm in the habit of keeping my doors locked. (

Quess I'm sleeping in the dog house next time.

tlranger

01-22-2014, 11:42 AM

Steven, do like bunker bust'n, Welcome to the green garden, may it cure what ailes us.

THCnXTC

01-23-2014, 04:14 PM

Gotta do what you love tl. Long-term girlfriend is supportive of grow too, plus we just sold a house. Her family travels a lot I've tentatively been considering how to convince her to move. Her best friend just moved to meet some guy and take a job offer out of state and now she's dating an NBA player's manager. Btw is underground really the only practical way to grow long-term? I've been thinking a lot lately and I'm starting to think it's the only reasonable long-term option; not just for me but for just about anyone.

THCnXTC

01-23-2014, 04:18 PM

I'm building one right now if you want I'll make a thread today to explain what I've learned. There's a store in chicago specializing in aquaponics and I've got the owner on speed dial haha. He doesn't seem to care at all what I may be doing with all this stuff, very passionate about 'ponics this guy. Doesn't sell me crap I don't need either.

crystaliscious

01-23-2014, 04:22 PM

tlranger

01-23-2014, 04:36 PM

I'm building one right now if you want I'll make a thread today to explain what I've learned.

Please do!!

tlranger

01-23-2014, 04:40 PM

I'm starting to think it's the only reasonable long-term option; not just for me but for just about anyone.

It's tough all the way around, from start to finish, I even bought a backhoe cause I did want ANYONE else involved.

catbuds

01-23-2014, 08:23 PM

I say lets all go to southern Co & start a commune! Live by our own set of rules, thumb our noses at society & moon our bare asses in the face of the government! Now that the legalization movement is rolling, I'm getting frustrated that it isn't rolling fast enough. I've been on this thing for over 40 years & my patience is wearing thin!
-- Ranger.... I want 2 bunkers. One for my grow, & one for living quarters. I need some place to contain my pissy attitude when I get this frustrated! Since MPP & NORML anounced Md is putting legalization to the vote, I've stayed online looking for more info. Nobodys putting out anymore info though. Why not? I'm on a quest for info & all I got was a tease! But should tight assed Md actually legalize, we could start a commune here! It warmer (oops, usually). Everything is..... hurry up & wait.~~~eh, I'm bummed.

crystaliscious

01-23-2014, 08:32 PM

tlranger

01-24-2014, 06:16 AM

A commune was started about 75 miles from me here in TN and they call it "The Farm". Quite an interesting place and totally self sustainable -cool place!
But if I am going to sustain I want tropical weather- no more frigid temps without even a tease of snow!

Northern cali is very nice, staying on the coast maybe a vineyard area. Been hunting for a cave myself. Get a tourist trap and shut down areas for safety reasons, have electricity on site. Plus some have work area buildings. Surface for self sufficiency.

catbuds

01-24-2014, 10:39 AM

Northern cali is very nice, staying on the coast maybe a vineyard area. Been hunting for a cave myself. Get a tourist trap and shut down areas for safety reasons, have electricity on site. Plus some have work area buildings. Surface for self sufficiency.

DAMNED! You can only like a post once on these forums! So why aren't we there yet?

catbuds

01-24-2014, 10:52 AM

I wanna go to 'The Farm'! Tenn is a tad warmer than Md. I love the rolling hills & I'm from WV, so it would be less of a culture shock for me. Are they online? ;)

catbuds

01-24-2014, 10:53 AM

Ranger, it sounds like you thought about this for a bit.........

tlranger

01-24-2014, 12:19 PM

Cat - thought about it more than a bit!!

catbuds

01-24-2014, 12:35 PM

Ahhh.. only one problem with that......I'd want to LIVE in the damned cave & would still have to build a bunker! LOL! I do love the vineyard country. Prettiest sight I've ever seen. I could never afford to move there, but I do have a beautiful memory of it I can visit anytime. ;)

tlranger

01-24-2014, 03:04 PM

Ahhh.. only one problem with that......I'd want to LIVE in the damned cave

The ones I look at, could house lots of stuff. One had a skating rink, another a concert area. Jessie James's hideout around here had room for horses, cattle, supplies, and his crew. Looked at one on line that had a half a mile of side walks for the handicapped. But the green rush might just be the key.
Think I like the security angle.

crystaliscious

01-24-2014, 06:52 PM

I wanna go to 'The Farm'! Tenn is a tad warmer than Md. I love the rolling hills & I'm from WV, so it would be less of a culture shock for me. Are they online? ;)
The definitely are Cat! and looking for people!
About The Farm - Home Page (http://www.thefarmcommunity.com)

Ranger- we have so many caves throughout this area of the country- I do know people who have hidden out in em and even had a friend as a kid who died in one- most of the tunnels connect and Mammoth cave which the entrance is just over the KY line was once a place where the Cherokee Nation holed up- they were able to have an entire village - horses and all in the cave!

We even have a famous TN Pot cave- where an underground cave was converted to a grow- he would never been caught either if he wasn't stealing the power! ;)

Caves are cool…..

smello1

01-28-2014, 04:10 AM

Sooner or later they will catch you stealing that power!

tlranger

01-28-2014, 12:05 PM

Around home here, they have even caught growers because they tapped into water lines, trying to get free water. If your inside your partnering with the power company, and they want their share. If you go off the grid with a Ginny, then your partner is the oil company, and they want a little more than their share. Out west we use solar a lot, and pay right up front. No such thing as a free ride!

catbuds

01-28-2014, 03:50 PM

At the very least, I'd like to end up with a solar powered greenhouse & hot water heater. I wouldn't mind paying up front because it pays for itself in the end, & it helps keep some of my money out of the power hungry hands of the power company.

But yeah. Power & water companies monitor that shit. Trying to steal it is just asking to get popped.

budbro28

01-29-2014, 04:10 AM

...good aquaponic read range.

tlranger

01-29-2014, 01:32 PM

First try at an exotic system, had a length of rain gutter. Set it at an angle one end higher an other. Filled it with peat moss. Had rain barrel to empty into the high end, filled from wind mill(what happened to wind mills?). Planted my little pot plants in the gutter one per foot(corn lessons). Took some time to get all ladies, I was just learning. Would constant drip compost tea from rain barrel into high end of gutter to keep low end moist, supported on hog wire fence running the length at the base of wind mill. Short full season. My first real success, got me hooked. This was in'68. Still like just growing in the dirt like granddad did!! He even helped if I helped on the still. Wonder how many laws we broke?