CAD SCAMMER/EXTORTIONIST

[harrybud]

I recieved this e-mail requesting a sample.I sent the sample out April 10.
It reached the customer April 18.


Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:07:52 +0100
From: "James West" <[email protected]> View Contact Details
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hello
My friend ross told me about your services! I am very interested,
email if its still availible!


The customer then requested an oz. which i sent CAD April 20.
It arrived April 27.




Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:38:01 +0100
From: "James West" <[email protected]> View Contact Details
To: "Paul W" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Yes,still available.
ok sir, if you could send it to
James West
62, bayswater road,
plymouth,
PL15BA
UK
and we can carry on from there!

I then contacted the customer to inquire about the order and recieved this.........



Mon, 9 May 2005 11:44:57 +0100
From: "James West" <[email protected]> View Contact Details
To: "Paul W" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Ok.
Paul W,
Hello, my name is james spice and i work for a privatre investigation
company based in the UK. Unfortunately for you, your an international
drug exporer with a paper trail and addresses leading all the way to
your arrest. If you would like to have a discussion about myself not
presenting my fairly damning report to my boss tommorrow morning email
back with some payment information or else your drug supplying days
will be over.
Vancover police waiting.
Email me



What can i say,things like this happen and i have to wonder what is happening to people...first they steal from you and then they try to harm you.....I really dont know anymore. :(

[Torog]

Howdy Harry,

Daggum..what does this feller mean when he says he wants payment info ? Does he want you to pay him off..or complete the final details of his investigation ?

You might want to consider changing out yer hard-drive for a new 'clean' one..and put all info somewhere safe. Also,you might want to take the battery out of your cellphone,when you're at home..it can be used for both a tracking device and a listening device. If you call his bluff--then you might want to think about moving everything somewhere else..but I'd hate to see ya do all that and find out this dude is bogus. If ya have the money..you should git a tap detector or have yer place swept..a good sweeper device..ain't cheap..but it could save your behind..and let you know for sure..if yer being surveilled.

I'm rootin for ya man !

Have a good one !

[KellisJ2003]

Harry, it is too bad that this kind of thing happens. From what it looks like is that some stupid kid pulled a fast one on you. He sees that it is CAD, so he goes and buys a load of weed (in this case an ounce) and then wondering whether or not it will be sent, he recieves it and knows that there is nothing you can do about him paying you, so he sends you a threatining e-mail. It seems like BS to me because if he really was working for authorities he would not have sent you an email, he would have gone to more drastic measures. Hope everything goes well, and like Torog said, I am also rooting for ya man cuz your a really cool guy. Hope all goes well!

[hipEstoner]

Are you sure that he's not bluffing? if what you posted is the actual e-mail, they're alot of mispelled words. Is that the way the cops would present themselves. It sucks to see a fellow smoker in trouble. good luck
peace

[abcmofo]

what a cunt! sorry to hear about the shite mate, hope it dont affect operations. sounds like hes havin you on matey, spice aint a very british name.... but then dont know, what a cunt. if i pass through plymouth ill take a bat an chain round to that address an see if he's for real

[GHoSToKeR]

Sorry to hear about this, harrybud.

However, this guy does just sound like some punk who thought it would be easy to get free weed. I notice that the ship-to address was in Plymouth, UK, but then he said that the Vancouver police 'are waiting'. This is obviously bullshit. I doubt that the police would contact police half-way across the globe just to bust one guy who sells a bit of weed, you know? lol

I wonder if any regular members of the board live in the vacinity of this guys address? Maybe they could pay him a visit? lol

Again, harrybud, it sucks to hear this kinda shit. I can't help but feel guilty on behalf of pricks like this that take advantage of people who are only trying to help. Good luck, dude. :)

[del...]

it's obviously a kid trying to weasle out of payment and not LEO. i can maybe help a bit if you send any info you have on him to:
[email protected]

[robert42]

Wow man thats a bastard. Want me to go to his adress and 'take him out' lol
Don't worry this is probly just some kid who couldnt think of a better excuse to not send the payment. hes a bluffer and anyway its not like he knows where u live or anything. Whats he gna do ring the police and say "hey someone sold me pot?" if he was a policemen hes out of duristiction and anyway he just some little 16 yr old kid trying to pull a fastone. I say fuck him what goes around comes around. If im ever in Plymouth i'll be sure to pack a few petrol bombs lmao ;)

All the best

[rysk8er420]

I definately agree with everyone else that its just some punk trying to scam you. Don't worry it's happened to me before when i was younger, and it sucked, but i learned something from it, don't deal with or buy/sell to people you don't know. Its just too sketch sometimes.

[hoodedclum]

Damn harry, that really sucks royally mate, i did'nt realise you did cad on all your orders, i thought that was just for the samples. Maybe once you have a few trusted customers you should just stick with them and ditch the cad thing, thats just unfair for some little prick to take advantage like that.

Its blatently not the police, they wouldnt tell you they were coming for you that would just allow you to destroy all the evidence, just some little shit who was never gonna pay up :(

best of luck with that anyway,

peace.

[larry]

This guy is probably a new member now and has his next
ounce on the way to one of his friends houses in a different
town.

I bet he called all his scammer friends and told them there is a funny
guy on the internet that will send a full ounce cad of killer bud and just
trust anyone to pay for it.

Do not do CAD for new members or for more than 2-3g's
cause whats the piont of sending more than that. If someone
is desperate they will be more than happy to get 2-3g's cad
so they know they can trust someone.

Is mari a major crime in UK? or is it slack like canada?

Do they consider it a class 1 narcotic like tha USA and indonesia?

[Button Basher]

What the fuck? This is a fucking bluff all the way. Would a private investigator mispell words in an email?

Would he send you a polite email letting you know he's on to you, or would he send some fucking cops over and get you busted instantly? Fuck this prick, he's clearly some asshole trying to take advantage of your services. Tell him to go suck off the whole "vancover" police force for all you care, sit back, blaze and forget it ever happened.

Or, just to be on the safe side. Go with Torog's advice! You can never be 100%, but this guy is obviously bullshitting.

[DPoisen]

this little fuck will get his neck snapped...step out your office little boy and come play.....

[montyd]

in uk cannabis is class c which is like schedule 3.
i agree that this lowlife person is trying it on.
harry email him tell him if he doesnt send you payment then you will pass his details to all the scam sites ie taxdog and i no there are a few others. once this guy sees the responce people have printed on this thread he would no he best pay up.
im sure if hes old enougth to drive a car he wouldnt want it smashed up also if he is just a teenager im sure he wouldnt like his parents house targeted
what goes around comes around ...
peace

[robert42]

lets bombard him with emails and abuse lol

[NowhereMan]

I recieved this e-mail requesting a sample.I sent the sample out April 10.
It reached the customer April 18.


Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:07:52 +0100
From: "James West" <[email protected]> View Contact Details
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hello
My friend ross told me about your services! I am very interested,
email if its still availible!


The customer then requested an oz. which i sent CAD April 20.
It arrived April 27.




Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:38:01 +0100
From: "James West" <[email protected]> View Contact Details
To: "Paul W" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Yes,still available.
ok sir, if you could send it to
James West
62, bayswater road,
plymouth,
PL15BA
UK
and we can carry on from there!

I then contacted the customer to inquire about the order and recieved this.........



Mon, 9 May 2005 11:44:57 +0100
From: "James West" <[email protected]> View Contact Details
To: "Paul W" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Ok.
Paul W,
Hello, my name is james spice and i work for a privatre investigation
company based in the UK. Unfortunately for you, your an international
drug exporer with a paper trail and addresses leading all the way to
your arrest. If you would like to have a discussion about myself not
presenting my fairly damning report to my boss tommorrow morning email
back with some payment information or else your drug supplying days
will be over.
Vancover police waiting.
Email me



What can i say,things like this happen and i have to wonder what is happening to people...first they steal from you and then they try to harm you.....I really dont know anymore. :(

this part > If you would like to have a discussion about myself not
presenting my fairly damning report to my boss tommorrow morning email
back with some payment information or else your drug supplying days
will be over.

attempting to blackmail wtf
good for 20 yrs here dont know about there but i would think they take shit serious when you start that fruad and intimidation tactics and try to use them as leverage and btw he just committed a big crime of attempting
wire fruad its called extortion when you do that kind of crap,

send somebody over to pound salt up his... nevermind
good luck

[miccheck]

That sucks, besides, harry works out of canada, sending to the UK, a UK police officer cant really do shit about it, harry's out of their jurisdiction

Best of luck to you harry your an honest guy karma will catch up with this cunt.

[llamaman666]

I think he's bluffing so he doesn't have to pay

[canamana]

Harry, that sucks man, but its just some lowlife. be safe though, too much info in the wrong hands can be damaging, call the bluff, say your done. get a new email address. good luck to Ya.

[abcmofo]

send some one in sth uk a few oz to cover a drive to plymouth an a good bashin!

[Looker]

OH SHIT!!

[Looker]

Holy smokes Batman..A hacker with criminal intent!!

[TheLion]

I just sent him an e-mail...

[xNoa]

are you kidding me? i havent read replys so im sure a million people have said, but that email is not from any kind of authority lol.

sounds like a absolute cunt though, maybe u should think about PAD now? i will be more then willing if i can pay with paypal

[ezjim]

i would start by posting his name and address on this site if possable his picture then since he threatened you with the law i would also post his name and address on www.whosarat.com then find out where his kids go to school let him know that you know this and if he still dosnt pay up get a fucking baseball bat and beat his door in and take the money there is no more room on this planet for thieving snitches

[montyd]

paypal is not a good idea.
they are owned by ebay and it leaves computer records of all moneys paid in and out.
not a good idea at all also someone had a problem useing paypal a while ago. he sent out delivery after payment the customer never got the goods as i think the postman stole it so he then claimed back the money through paypal...

[stonner uk]

what a little twat sorry to hear that harry at least all us know his address think he will be shiting it now someone will pay him a visit or get some anthranxs(dont know if spelt right) or something along them lines posted through his door... chill man.

[robert42]

stealin a Oz is nothing but its the principle u trusted him but to attempt to blackmail and extort you is a fukin joke

[anycraic]

wtf that bastard! hey guys i live plymouth, does anyone else? maybe we can pay the fucker a visit????

[cannae007]

Sorry too hear about this twat harry,,,your a good bloke,,,,and it's good to see there are a lot of people with you.I'm in N.Wales,,if i lived closer,,MAYHEM would come calling on this guy.

[Pass The Rizla]

This guy is a fucking prick and needs a good kicking. If I was from Plymouth the cunt would be getting a little visit.

[hoodedclum]

too right

[Button Basher]

Send him an email saying "please don't have me arrested, come to [specify location] and we can sort this out however you wish"!

Then, the rest of us hide in bushes...

[skinup]

yeah I think he'll be shitting a brick having his address plastered on here. I would be anyway. Maybe be an idea to close the 'free sample' thread (if thatâ??s poss) when you have enough customers. Thereâ??s a bloke on Overgrow telling everyone about this great deal - in the cannabis cafe. Its troll city over their, maybe attracting the wrong type of 'customers'.

[harrybud]

Hey my fate in Humanity has been restored :) .......
Its all about Karma in the end.

Here is the latest e-mail from Mr.West.
Enjoy :D


"ROBERT CAPRIO" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
To: [email protected]
Subject: International Internet Investigation Agency
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:17:43 -0400
NOTICE OF INTENT : Our surveillance of internet forums has allowed us to gather information pertinent to your activities concerning ILLEGAL CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES. We are not able to persue legal avenues of interagation or prosecution , however this information is retained in our data base and is made available to all authorites upon request. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY.
Del

[anycraic]

suck my bollocks, the cunt cant even spell right

[del...]

oh no, not the IIIA on your ass (LOL)...but what's with the "del" at the end of it?

does he happen to have a handle here? if not, do you know how to read the "source" in the email? sorry to ask and i may not be asking the right question...but what i'm getting at is if you have more info on this guy it won't take much to verify his address and probably even get a phone number or at bare minimim his service provider info so a fraud complaint can be made (i'll do it)...i just hate scammers so much! especially those who fuck up a good thing that's been working so well for so long for everyone else!

[email protected]
or pm me...

[larry]

Whats the guys username on the board?

Or did you send it to some random guy?

[harrybud]

Whats the guys username on the board?

Or did you send it to some random guy?


No he was referanced by a member on a board.....

[Button Basher]

He's probably playing with his cop action figures right now.

[BUZz UK]

what a fucking loser, he probably just wanted to try an skank you, what a cock

[GHoSToKeR]

"Our surveillance of internet forums has allowed us to gather information pertinent to your activities concerning ILLEGAL CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES."

Basically he saw his address posted on the internet and a bunch of angry stoners replying and he shat himself :D

[harrybud]

A board member sent me his phone number,so guess what i phoned him....lol
He was shocked,he did no what to say...lol
some funny stuff....lol
and much thanks for the phone number....you made my week



"Done some digging. This guys not too smart. Hes listed in the phone
book.

Number is (UK) 1752 600780.

So he obviously gave you a correct name & address,

Let me know if you want more!"


Karma baby,it will get you every time... :)

[robert42]

Haha :D Well done HB!

Can't escape karma!

[GHoSToKeR]

now all we need to do is keep his phone ringing off the hook with angry phone calls and threats until he coughs up the cash haha

[larry]

:) Ha ha ha what did he say? Ha ha

[anycraic]

brilliant

[Button Basher]

Haha, Harry is the king. Good job mate!

[apsinthion]

Hahaha, awesome! :D

Shouldn't the area code be 01752??

How about phoning every pizza delivery place in plymouth and ordering 10 pizza's for his address, lol! Get a mob of irate delivery men on his doorstep! :cool:

[cannae007]

I thought his address was 62 Bayswater Road,,,that number is for Number 17.
Well,on Directory enquiries it is :-)

[purpledrummer1]

A board member sent me his phone number,so guess what i phoned him....lol
He was shocked,he did no what to say...lol
some funny stuff....lol
and much thanks for the phone number....you made my week



"Done some digging. This guys not too smart. Hes listed in the phone
book.

Number is (UK) 1752 600780.

So he obviously gave you a correct name & address,

Let me know if you want more!"


Karma baby,it will get you every time... :)
EeFffin brilliant! Well done everyone.
really sorry that happened to you hb.
;-)

[anycraic]

took a stroll down bayswater rd. today, if it is no.62 then his house is painted yellow with a white door and a red doorstep.........

[Button Basher]

Lol, my god. I can't believe how much trouble he's made for himself.

Ain't nothing worse then a mob of angry potheads :D ! (possibly crackheads)

[anycraic]

yes were such stupid stoners that we can track some scammer right to his house 5000 miles from the guy he shafted, lol, i wish i had a digital camera; i would take a picture of 6 guys standing in front of his place with a sign saying "pay up or else", then harrybud would email it too him.............
anyone got a camera?

[miccheck]

omg thats fucking unbelievable

[florida boy 3]

yall are good, really good. tracked the sucker down. when you get pot heads stirred up there is no place to hide. good job.

[Encatuse]

Email Bomb him.

He seems pretty fake.

[Encatuse]

HA! I only saw the first page. -laughs- What a loser.

[tir na nog]

Congrats to everyone involved in this secret stoner operation....

And to the scammer sucker........ This should probably die right now, with you doin the sensible thing...

but hahaha BURN!

[hipEstoner]

he's gonna have a shitty summer!:)

[Ocram]

HAHA I Love it I must Say You guys All ROCK ::UP Punnishmet to all scammers.....also a note to all future Scammers DONT FUCK WITH THE CANNIBIS MAFIA We'll FUCK YA UP!!!......... Anyone have a spare HorseHead????.....LOL............I Love Weed!!!!

[Etrain]

Lmao, gangstas.

[Roasted Rodent]

Hey why dont someone post a photo of the house of the dude? I would like to see it before "4th of July accident happens".. Hehe "Before- and after photo session" LOL..


Ohh i wish i was young`n healthy and a virgin again...



No well maybe not a virgin.....

[tir na nog]

I sincerely doubt many peeps in ye olde england celebrate 4th of july????

[Roasted Rodent]

I sincerely doubt many peeps in ye olde england celebrate 4th of july????

Im sorry if you didnt understand the content of my post.

[miccheck]

someone send him a turd in the post.

[KellisJ2003]

WTG Guys for taking this prick down. That is a lot of pot that he basically stole from Harry. What a dick.

[hoodedclum]

LOL bet that fucker is regretting ripping harry off now !

see what happens when you mess with the stoner mafia you piece of shit !

[duppy man]

God you guys are sooooooooooo great,lesson for today DON'T FUCK WITH STONERS we only appear meek and mild.Argghhh

[red662]

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[red662]

thats a little weasle chancin his arm i would take no action, unless u feel uncomfortable bout it.

maybe change the hard drive, drop me a line and ill soprt somethin out with u i have the tool that the fbi use 2 search ur hard drive and the fix, so mail me.
u know the addy harry

[red662]

man this thread started in nov 04

[xNoa]

nah more like may 2005 bre

[Warlock]

Call Vancouver PD & ask for James Spice, tell them its his brother.
They either say "He doesnt have a brother"
"Ok, I'll put him on"
"He doesn't work here"

Thats how you can find out if it's a fake.

[MeatRulz]

yo hair man e-mail me your prices i can be trusted.

[Az.]

WTG thats amazing!! hahaha
serves him fucking right....does anyone know if harry got the cash?

[anycraic]

yeah id like to know too, i was the guy who scoped out his house...

[MeatRulz]

forgot to put e-mail :cool: [email protected]