3 leafed wonder, pineapple chunk

[higher_than_you]

hey guys
so this is my 4th grow and already my babies have had a naff time, they were at a friends who didnt keep the lights on the right times, no fan, and left in a black bag for a day tied up, when i finally got them in the tent and under better conditions ie- away from said friend, they looked like they was about to die, 24hours later and happy days, phew! i need to check my other log to find out exact date but there nearly two weeks.

my growing skills is a little unorthodox but i get bye and have fairly decent results but yet so very much a noob

1x1x2 tent
600w hps dulex-from seed at 3.5f, now at 2.5f and end of next week ill place 24" n maintain
little 6" fan
iv taken the carbon filter off as its not too much of an issue with regards to smell, thankfully, but i have the fan inside blowing fresh air from outside straight into the tent at the bottom with the only outlet at the top, unless open of coarse.
compost medium but have chosen slightly smaller pots than last time as i found i had better results as i would have to feed them more due to soil drying up.

already have a rare one in the gang, she produced 3 leaves from the get go? :wtf: due to this iv topped her on her second node so will in theory get 3 main stems, which has already taken affect and happening.

gonna keep a log just coz its unusual and always a good read when uv blazed a few. peace

[higher_than_you]

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pineapple chunk

[Mal420xl]

thats polyploid huh never seen a normal one. usually funky looking. thisll be good to watch

[higher_than_you]

thanks man. as i stated still a noob, iv never heard or seen of until now. hopefully she will go the distance

[Mal420xl]

yeah i wanna see that too. ive seen a few in my years but none that turned out to be anything to write home about. they all had some sort of mutation.
that one looks perfect so far. they claim there is all sorts of bennies to having them. if it grows right i can see yield potentially being higher.

[higher_than_you]

quick update:
taken a little longer than i hoped it would for them to recover from there firsts two weeks of life but they seem to have picked up pace and are starting to bush out and become a darker shade of green and the growth speed has increased for which i am thankful! really wasnt sure if they would a mass to anything? lst'd them a couple days ago, accidentally split the main stem on one, but hopefully sorted it with a string brace and her tips have all turned towards the light so she should be good, i hope! 290460290461290462290463290464

[higher_than_you]

290465290466 ill will be putting them into flower next week, i personally feel they need some more recovery time and just a little more bush to them. i will post pics of there weekly nug progression, packet states 8 weeks but iv read these slide towards the sativa so im thinking 9-10, iv seen a log where they took 103 days n the chap said they probably could have done with another week or two :wtf: that was a few years ago tho, so hopefully the genetics would have progressed and got better, also read they like to stretch so hence the early top and lst method although lst is my preffered method of growing. peace

[Shovelhandle]

NIce grow area, Bub! :thumbsup:


not polyploid, it's called whorled phylotaxy. They are nothing special, I've had less than normal results with them and i've grown out a dozen or so.

[Shovelhandle]

by the by, I've seem some photos of polyploid cannabis and it's crazy looking, all kinds of tight growth. google polyploid cannabis images. There are a few there ( and many that are not polys).

[higher_than_you]

thanks sh :thumbsup:
i did a google search and i believe it is whorled phyllotaxy, some pics were the spit of mine as seedlings. as for having less than normal results tho im surprised as u already have an extra branch? iv got 4 of the same strain, at the end ill post a wet harvest results and see if there is much variation in weight although i dont know how creditable it will be as i think i have 1 that is of a different phony, grew tall and sparce, not sure if due to her early conditions tho? and i split her during lst! lol tbh ill just be thankfull if they go the distance

[unforgiven3x]

hiya, noob here lol.

i gotsa 3 leafer too. it's one of 11 that germed ten grew but this one is a triple lol.

mines a cannacopia deep chunkolate.

heres a pic a few days ago. shoulda got a new one lol cam aint handy atm.


edited: wow crappy pic!!! light just went out i'll fetch new pix tomorrow.

[unforgiven3x]

ok here's the better pic of 3 leaf, decided to try fimming it as well. seemed to work good for you, lol.

first pic is first ever grow, a bagseed a friend gave me, startin ta smell kinda dank. second shows all the chunkolate, the top from bag lady. third is 3 leaf before fim and fourth is as she sits now.

[higher_than_you]

hey fellow noob ;)
thanks for dropping in and sharing bro :thumbsup: looking good btw! with regards to the tripple leaf i didnt fim her but topped her, right back to her her 1st true leaves,(i know the rule of thumb is 3rd node high but i had some awesome results with an accidental top this low on a previous grow) so rather than the two stems you would usually get, we get a guaranteed 3 thanks to the extra leaf, although i am interested to see how the fim goes tho and what shape she will take? have u started a log? will be looking forward to seeing your progress against mine with the fim technique, could be interesting

[unforgiven3x]

hmmm dunno why i thought you fimmed it.....read the tread a few times too, lol.

whutever, like you say, be interesting to see the comparison of the two.

was thinkin on doin a grow log, but i'm more of a lurker than a poster. kind of a real life a-hole if ya know whut i mean, so it sometimes comes through the keys if someone rubs me the wrong way. not on purpose, but its how i am in person too so it kinda sux puttin people off when ya just wanna learn from others. which i can say....holy crap!!! is there ever a ton of info on growin weeds on the net!! think ive signed up for like 6 forums mebbe more cuz ya dont get all the pix without doing so. but so worth the effort cuz man o man there are some seriously wise bastids kickin around with heavy info to be soaked up.

haven't seen alot of flaming on these sites, even when someone is a class a jerk like meself. so mebbe i give the log a go. :wtf4:

heres what she looks like today tho...

[higher_than_you]

hey man lol at being an a-hole btw, u dont seem so bad :thumbsup: but i know what u mean, i find if u post something that is a slightly different method or something slightly inaccurate,(ie, right in ur country but wrong in another) u will know about it, peeps on here are pretty good tho and 9 times out of ten they just wanna help, theres a few old schools still kicking about too and if ur lucky enough to have em pipe up u know its wise words, there not arrogant too with there advice, as iv noticed on some forums..but if u do get one maybe smoke some meds before u start hitting the keys to reply :jointsmile:

looking healthy mate, u might experience some slow growth for the next week or two tho as it looks like u have cut the tips of the fan leaves off, its extra stress and less solar panel area if ya get me, soon as her new growth is out and reaching she will rapidly pick up the pace, its just ball ache waiting tho, lol only reason i know this is coz i did it :thumbsup: but its all part of it, some of the best advice is the shit you teach urself.

if u dont start a log maybe post updates on here? just to compare the different techniques, altho there is a lot of other variables to factor ie set up ect, speaking of.. what are u running atm? u have a few little sprouts there i see lol

[higher_than_you]

update

so i was gonna wait a week before i put the girls into flower as i thought they needed some recovery time, i took these two nights ago and as u can see the biggest girl looks like she was early stage of deficiency, either mag, or nitrogen judging from the chart, i think my watering times needed to increase too as my medium is compost that i fluffed the shit out of with a stick so its drying out quicker than any other grow iv done! a the biggest girl took 3 litres this morn and yesterday 2, but she has vastly improved and has started reaching again, i took a pic of under her pot and there is some serious root issues there, not overly sure how to handle that, i was gonna build a frame that would raise the pots bout 4 inches with a slanted tray under neath so i guess like a hydro? but rather than have a pump just spray the roots? i know they gotta be kept dark so feeding time could be ball ache, any input or ideas would greatly appreciated here as im still a bit indecisive. ok so here they are..where i was going at the start is that im probably gonna put them into flower tonight, there looking much better n if i carry on space will probably become an issue. peace

[higher_than_you]

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[unforgiven3x]

lookin verry nice!!!

what size pots are they in? mebbe a transplant b4 flower woulda done them good?

decided ta put a grow log up after all. http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/205434-cannacopia-deep-chunkolate-mystery-baglady-first-grow-ever.html

[higher_than_you]

thanks bro, kind words. (i wasnt sure if they was gonna be worth it but it astounds me on what they can do in a week! top man on starting a log tho :jointsmile: i look forward to seeing ur progress

[higher_than_you]

yo, i forgot this. er not sure what my pots are? 12" high by 12" across at the top but getting narrower towards the base, they have already been transplanted as they started popping out of the bottom of her last pots too, (i dont use cups or those boi pots u can plant straight in the ground, i use 6" x 6" from the start) that was only a week and a half ago tho! and with all that root hanging out the bottom now i dont want to risk damage to them by repotting. i guess will see what happens during flowering..still toying with the idea of making a frame and raising them 4"

[higher_than_you]

just a quick update whilst im on here, so i didnt build a frame and raise them 4 inchs as planned, im only on my 5th grow, of which only 3 were completed, i chose my strain carerfully with regards to my habitat, ie the grow room size, there currently in 1m squared by 2m high and im already on my last inch of the light height adjustment! and i still have around 8 weeks left!! in the last 2 weeks the tallest has easly grown a 1.5f, i reckon bout an inch a day give or take, not that im complaining tho, for an indoor plant dammm she looks good.. but iv had to super crop her to slow her, if it continuous like this i will have to put the two tallest in the green house from the 20th (timing could not be better) and just let mother nature do her thing!
dropped my iphone in a rock pool whilst fishing, utterly shagged. soon as i get a new one ill upload some pics, all 4 girls are doing very well, the 3 leafed wonder is more of a 3 stemed bush :smokin: they all have little pistols too so in the next week or so i should see proper signs of flowering.. i love this part the most:thumbsup:

[unforgiven3x]

hey hey glad to hear the girls are doing well!! please say you put them in flower back on the 28th??? cuz with only 2 m of height less the light, you should have flowered even sooner by my thougts. based only on stuff i have read, not on experience with these plants. wish i hadn't fimmed the fim on my 3 leaf, yours looks awesome.

if you greenhouse them now, it is spring, right? so you will be putting them right back into veg!!! then wait til what? october or so?

bummer about your phone. but a bad day fishing is better than a good day at work anytime!!!

[higher_than_you]

hey u3x, hows tricks i been checkin ur log too, :thumbsup: looking good! intrigued by the vertical. yep they went into flower on the 28th, usually i would veg between 2-4 weeks depending on strain, what pheny and how well they do in there first few weeks, coz these girls all most died i felt they needed the recovery time before the switch.

yep, iv read too that they can be stretchers, i thought i could handle that with lst and topping but it just made it more vigorous lol out of the 4 i have 2 tall ones and two 'normal ones' ill put the 2 tall ones back into the green house from the 20th and let them veg back out for the summer n wait till october, the smaller two should yield enough to carry me through till there ready at which point im not expecting to much of a greenhouse left :jointsmile: iv seen a log where a plant was put back into veg after two weeks, and when put back into flower within 3 days already had trichs so it will be quite intriguing, i guess the hormones are still floating about in the plant.


bummer about your phone. but a bad day fishing is better than a good day at work anytime!!! < love this ;)

[higher_than_you]

quick pic update,
still no phone but my go pro 3 turned up and iv just worked it out.. i hope
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iv had to raise the extractor fan so i can push the taller plants back and iv got it working in reverse with it blowing outdoor air in.
tallest is 4f2 but including 1f pot height, iv moved the light so its above the 2 smaller bushy'r phenoys, iv gained an extra 3 inches distance from the taller ones. but its just a quick fix, i need it to warm up outside other wise im in trouble :wtf:

[higher_than_you]

update:

so right now my garden looks like im growing 4 very different strains. (ill try and get some pics up asap) the packet said 8 weeks, im on week 6, the 3 leaf which is my most dominant sativa probably has at least 6-8 weeks left, infact she looks only about a quarter the way through literally only last weeks started developing trichs :wtf: the others are all at different stages of bud growth too,

i think there might be two factors, genetics is my main reasoning, i did some more research and its the same story, but every independent review said regardless of what phenoy u get the nugs were worth the wait! lol i freakin hope so coz this looks like its gonna take time! my other is that of a school boy error in having my light timer at 13 on 11 off and had that run for the 1st 4 weeks! (new timer) im now 12.5 dark and 11.5 light, im hoping this gives em the extra nudge to think winter is fast approaching lol and just as a back up iv germed 4 blueberry gums, a bubble gummer (freebe from female seeds who i personally dont rate very high at all due to my bigbudx whitewidow, so hopefully they redeem with this one) something called a dark star? it was also freebe, checked it online and it was a £40 seed! bangin haha. and a ladyburn 1974, an old favorite and something else but i lost the tag so she is no name, i think it might be a kush of sorts? they all popped andare in the ground now so just a case of waiting, debating outdoors or new veg room, i dont want to be growing all the time, thinking if i get enough to last me till next summer ill be a happy chappy haha! anyways hopefully get a camera sorted this week and show you what im workin with here, peace

[higher_than_you]

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this one is the 3 leaf, PC packet states indica dominate, where as she is looking very sativa dominate, as are the other 2. only the shorter bushy one is picking up the pace with her 1st turn in pistol colour today, just few on the turn but probably at least another 4 weeks min.
apologies on the close ups, borrowed a friends cam, need to sort mine asap!

side note: all 4 bubble gummers have sprouted and are sitting in the window sill pretty :thumbsup: hopefully the pick and mix freebe gals will make an appearance tomorrow

[Token LaRoche]

Killer garden. I actually planned to start my first grow with pineapple chunk, but somewhere got distracted and went with white rhino instead. Got the pc seeds still, though, and do think they'll be next.

[higher_than_you]

hey dude, thanks for checking in :jointsmile: i'm pleased that you like what you see! she's a bit of a temperamental strain with her genetics but each phenoy looks like it will be a good producer of nice nugs so i definitely suggest u should give em a try. never tried a white rhino? i remember the hype about it tho when it first came out so your first grow if all goes well u should be pretty happy

quick update: bring on the stink and trich's :thumbsup:

[higher_than_you]

update: week 8 of flower, give or take a day. the smaller one i decided to cut early.. she was the fastest out of the 4 for flowering but realistically could have done with another week or so, is it's getting warmer here and i needed the space for the other 3, as it goes it wasnt a bad decision, due to her phoney she grew shorter and bush like ( usually i prefer this for lst) but due to the height of the other 3 her lower growth really suffered producing wispy nugs, and her foliage was crazy so i cut my losses, my rewards are with the other 3 who are loving the extra space and are just getting fatter daily:thumbsup: iv checked ova these 3 with the microscope and it all clear/cloudy trichs, tbh it was wishful thinking lol
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noticed a bit of purple phenoy coming thru too

[higher_than_you]

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this is the 3 leaf, she is gonna be the biggest producer i reckon, with dence nugs haha she will defo be the last girl standing! shes got time left!

maybe some help, iv just finished a two week flush hence the leaf yellowings, but seeing as how iv prob got a month left do you think its worth giving them a feed just to really make em sing ya know? lol

[higher_than_you]

sidenote: the other gals sprouted and is now dotted all ova the garden:jointsmile: but our weather is terrible so the best 3 ill prob bring indoors to flower n go from there.
that no name kush came out the ground with only one leaf?? i thought it might mutate a branch but for the last week its just been sat there single leath upright loving it?? where the stem grows into the leaf iv sliced halfway into it almost like a half top fim thing hoping this encourages some sort of growth, i doubt it but worth a shot

[higher_than_you]

so one of my pineapple chunks has changed to a purple chunk?! she has a distinctly different nug shape too, looking really swollen but minimal pistils, (shes been like this throughout) and even her nugs have a change of colour to to them tinting on the purple side? she looks amazing tho but i just wished i carried on there feeds, i could av probably got another 2-3 weeks in really but hey ho its all part of the learning curve :) safe to say- unstable genetics- lovely plant regardless, even tho i chopped one early she still smokes like a treat, my insomnia has been obsolete since she has been dry enough to taste, and still her smell is potent, just cant wait for her sisters to be finished lol the last few weeks is always a killer! patience brings bigger rewards :rasta:

[Mal420xl]

consider the purple a bonus. out the 4 i have 3 showed purple and one stayed super green til a day or so ago it started turning the normal end of life yellow

[higher_than_you]

on a side note tho, altho i had some issues with height and stretching it wasnt overly that bad once she slowed and started to fatten up. they're all about 4f in height from the soil. (i did top and lst tho) from reading everyones notes/log this was everyones main bitch, so maybe they are working on it? and i think if barneys farm was to change the flower times and to say 50/50 sat/ind then there not far off with there description. i personally am pretty pleased with them. ill do a review and a weight comparison between the diff phenoy's when there ready at the end of the log

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it was really nice yesterday and the sun was beating, made sense to let em have a bit of ol muther nature. :)

[higher_than_you]

consider the purple a bonus. out the 4 i have 3 showed purple and one stayed super green til a day or so ago it started turning the normal end of life yellow i consider them all a bonus haha i just didnt know where it came from down in the lines? skunk x cheese x pineapple i think are here genes, of which two is sativa dom so already there indica dom is wishful thinking.. either way, im loving her colours :jointsmile: