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Rage_famous
03-05-2013, 05:23 AM
It's about 12 days old 24/0 Light cycle under 4 CFLs.
Just yesterday I noticed the stems starting to turn a purplish-ish color and growth from the top of the bottom node.
I was wondering what is going on, is it flowering too early?
And what are my options from here?
Here are some pictures.
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Weezard
03-05-2013, 08:32 AM
What you see there is normal growth.
Those tiny tufts in the petiole crotch will become branches in good time.
The reddening of the stems can be strain specific, but it can also indicate a low PH.
What you need now is patience.
While you are waiting, I suggest you use the time to look into the first link in my signature.
It has everything that you will need to know in the next few months.
Welcome to Cdot
Aloha,
Weezard
built2spill
03-25-2013, 03:34 PM
Purple stems can also be a sign of low magnesium. Epsom salts will fix that problem. I mix them in at 1 tsp per gal of water and give it to them about once every four to six weeks or if I see purple stems.
Weezard
03-25-2013, 08:44 PM
This is true.
It could also signal Phosphorus deficiency.
However, actual deficiencies in soil are quite rare.
(Almost non-existent with seedlings)
And, if either is caused by a lockout. (From low PH for instance.)
Adding more will not help.
First, control the PH, then see if she lacks anything.
A.,
W.
bitemybud
03-26-2013, 12:42 AM
It's about 12 days old 24/0 Light cycle under 4 CFLs.
Just yesterday I noticed the stems starting to turn a purplish-ish color and growth from the top of the bottom node.
I was wondering what is going on, is it flowering too early?
And what are my options from here?
Here are some pictures.
290080290081What type of soil are you using? PH? I don't see an issue, but I will mention that seedlings started under 24/0 are likely to be male. PLants need a rest in order to grow and flourish. I never use 24/0, never! If I were growing clones, then maybe I could see it, but I find that 16/8 works best for seedlings...It allows stronger root development, and raises the chance of a seedling being female.
Another thing about using a shorter photo-period during Veg is: You have less stretching during the transition phase to flower. good Luck.
jackall
03-26-2013, 01:32 PM
i veg all my plants under 24 hours light for the first few weeks. (we all do things slightly different)
Cant see any problems with your seedlings. Your plants look just perfect to me.... ATB
bitemybud
03-28-2013, 09:53 PM
The Dark period is when the roots flourish. With no dark period you are sacrificing stronger roots, for more foliage, which will not produce as well due to lack of larger root mass. No one with true hortilcultural or agricultural expertise grows anything in 24 hours of light.
tlranger
03-29-2013, 04:43 AM
I do, and the roots seem to do fine, this is just tel they are 12-14 inches tall. Then flower 12 and 12.
bitemybud
03-29-2013, 09:39 PM
Plants are extremely similar to Humans. The Vitamins we take are made from the same ingredients as plant nutrients. You try standing for days in heat with the lights on and see what happens to your body.
We always teach not to stress your plants. Not allowing plants to rest is stressing them. Period!
I said people that are experts. LOL If you are arguing for 24/0 photo period; You are no expert. Call your county agent and see what he thinks about you growing your tomatoes under 24 hours of light.
Weezard
03-30-2013, 02:13 AM
16:8?
24:0?
It's a small deal.
Would they be happier with some rest?
Perhaps.
Bigger? Fatter? Another inch? Another gram?
Maybe.
Maybe not.
I did raise six 'lings at 24:0 alongside a half dozen at 16:8.
Since I personally found no significant advantage to 24:0, and I'm cheap, I use 16:8.
Same growth, same gender ratio, less expense.
A no-brainer for me. :)
Different strokes.
Aloha,
Weeze
tlranger
03-30-2013, 04:15 AM
I still don't use a timer on defused florescent light clone cabinet, ten days and into cups of soil, veging closet t-5 banks no timer on lights, after one week from cups to 6inch puts after second week the girls give new crop of clones which run 95 percent success. Girls then go to bloom room for two months, I keep no mothers, but can recognize my strains in the three week old girls. Bloom room 12/12 timers on each light and checked every day!
Sorry am no expert. Expert someone who wants to get your money. Just some things that have worked for me
tlranger
03-30-2013, 04:19 AM
With the department of ag tag what's your feelings on Monsanto?
tlranger
03-30-2013, 04:31 AM
Weeze for sure for sure, that's why the t-5, but over the years start ups have caused problems. What's with gender ratio all the ladies. Shoot for Paradise City
bitemybud
04-05-2013, 10:59 PM
With the department of ag tag what's your feelings on Monsanto?Monsanto is raping farmers everywhere. Hate Monsanto. Hate the government making a food source cross over with fuel source driving up prices all over. Answer your Q?
tlranger
04-09-2013, 12:36 AM
BmB Want to give some respect. Did step in a hole on the 16 vs 24. Seems very debated on here. All reasoning is sound and minus a couple of personal variables would go your way. And for seeds have liked the green house to keep it natural.
Glad to hear your Monsanto reply, graduated from a state college, a training ground for extension agents, it seemed that the corporation or big farm model was embraced by most.
Tomatoes, have to report that this was a bust. I saw no effects second year, even tho others claimed to.
tlranger
04-11-2013, 11:19 AM
Glad you addressed food to fuel, WTF are they doing?
growdemon
08-17-2013, 09:13 PM
24/7 lights on for veggin.. works for me..
check my profile album for the results
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