advice needed

[Kevthe1st]

specs
1200 x 1200 x 2.1 reflective room
1 x HPS light and reflector
8 2ltr pots
pumped self feeding

hi my question is, its my first time growing from seed (royal haze feminized auto) so some advice on what medium to use?
what feed would in your opinion would work best with this system im using

sorry if this sounds a bit sketchy :confused: thanks for any advice :thumbsup:

[XXXJAYXXX]

First off.. dont auto feed your plants unless you are running a hydro system... especially if you are growing in buckets.. your plants will all grow at slightly different speeds.. and some may need more/less watering than others depending on where they are in the garden etc. Second.. I like Sunshine mix #4.. initial runoff ph is PERFECT for cannabis! Third.. stick with any 3 part food... I prefer General Hydroponics Flora Series.. I find its usually one of the cheaper brands.. and it is also one of the more popular ones.. Use the feeding chart they have on the website (your grow store may also have paper copies). I also HIGHLY recommend foilar feeding with "Growth Plus".. spray every day at lights on.. stop 2 weeks before harvest... and I would also recommend a B1 vitamin like "B-52" from Advance Nutrients.. or "Vitamax" From Grotek.. Water with small amounts every day (quick count to 5 on each plant) And feed them straight Ph'd water every third day to keep the salts down in the soil.. Some guys will tell you its ok to drench the pots and leave them for 4 or 5 days at a time between feeds.. but I have found MUCH better results with watering small amounts daily ;-) Good luck!

[painretreat]

;)Hi Kev, If I were You...I'd keep reading and plenty. If you need help with your first grow, you are more likely to get it, if you post more details...like from the trouble shooting list; :postreadfaq:.....pearls before swine
(http://cannabis.com/growing/index.html)
I just stole that from Dutch Pimps signature! Happy reading! :rasta: pr
(http://cannabis.com/growing/index.html)

[Kevthe1st]

Thanx jay-painretreat
After Visiting my local hydro shop, thay didnt stock all the products listed but was recamended
These
Dutchpro origanal coco/hydro A/B soft water
Dutchpro origanal bloom A/B. softwater
Dutchpro take root

Some of the detals i failed to mention
the light is a Santiago 600 w.

Begining of week 2 and thay are aprox 2.5 ".
Im manuly watering them at the moment

[XXXJAYXXX]

Weird that they dont carry GH.. its by far the most widely used food on the planet! lol... Anywho.. sounds like you have a decent nutrient there.. anything that has 3 or 4 parts that you have to mix different amounts at different times should do you justice.. The main thing about these plants is that they require different amounts of nutes for different stages of growth.. stick with the formula recommended by the manufacturer for the first run or two.. and once you get a little more comfortable with how the plants respond.. you can start experimenting with higher dosages of food.. Cannabis can often handle 2-4 times the amount of nutes suggested in those basic feed charts... but condidtions need to be optimal (Temp, humidity, Co2, and lighting all has to be PERFECT), and you really need to watch your plants when increasing the feed like this.. it is VERY possible to have too much of a good thing! Sounds like your off to a good start.. good luck!

[Kevthe1st]

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Does this look normal ?
Feed dutchpro part A/B = 4 ml 4ml
15 lts of ph Neutral water
Providing iv undestood the chart

[XXXJAYXXX]

Those look way too small to feed dude! I would give them straight ph'd tap water (between 5.8-6.3 for soil) until they have at least 4-6 leaves... that looks like nute burn.. being that you posted this 2 days ago.. Im guessing they may not have made it... You gotta give those babies some time before you start feeding them.. tap water usually has enough natural nutes in it to keep them alive for the first week or so... once they have 4 solid leaves with 5 and 6 coming in nicely.. you can start with 1/4 strength nutes for a few days and bump it up a little more as they get a little bit bigger.. hopefully it worked out for you!

[higher_than_you]

i would say the same as jay with regards to nute burn and way too early on in growth for any nutes. off topic u havent stated any air flow or ducting? i dont know if u have any already (if u dont, get some) but your environment is just as important if not more.. pr's link is worthy read. peace

[Kevthe1st]

Thanx guys
I did loss one if them but the rest look fine
I do have a extraction unit 160 ls /180ls
And a intake
The temps are normaly 85/88 lights on
Humidity 40/60%

[Kevthe1st]

Hi guys
Thanks for all the advice :)

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Iv just repotted my girls but these two look sick
Could this be to much nutes ?
The others look nice and healthy

[XXXJAYXXX]

That looks more like not enough nutes... lol.. Nitrogen deficienies usually turn the whole leaf yellow like that... Nute burn just gets the tips of the newer leaves... Look for a plant problem troubleshooting guide online to help you identify plant problems like this.. it will save you LOTS of running around... My guess is you need a little bit more of whatever part of your nutes has the most nitrogen in it... Read the lables.. which ever one has the highest Nitrogen (N).. add an extra ML per gallon or so and try that for a few days... Hopefully it will perk up! The yellow leaves are scarred like that now.. they will never turn green again after nitrogen def.. but they will be at the bottom of the plant anyways.. so you will probably end up pruning them off come flower time anyways.. good luck!

[Kevthe1st]

Thanx alot jay
The fert im using is duchpro A/B
IT DOESN'T list the chemicals only how to mix them:(
Is there anything i could get to help ?

Sorry if i seem numb to this but im jst a builder who struggels to keep a window plant alive :mad:

[bitemybud]

Hi guys
Thanks for all the advice :)

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Iv just repotted my girls but these two look sick
Could this be to much nutes ?
The others look nice and healthy
Definitely nutrient burn. You never feed seedlings until they have established a strong root zone. This is as mentioned above. 4-5 true sets of alternating nodes/leaves. Now that they are burnt...Let them grow 4-5 more sets of leaves before starting nutrient schedule. Then water with ph 6.5 for soil at a strength of 400ppm.

[XXXJAYXXX]

Less is always more with seedlings.. Nute burn usually only hits the tips of the newest leaves first.. causing pretty much instant death of the very tips of the leaves and then spreading inwards.... Full yellowing of the leaves like that is usually a deficiency... the newer leaves on those plants appear to be more green than the lower ones.. which leads me to believe its nutrient deficiency and not burn.. Your plant food should have 3 numbers on it seperated by dashes.. I believe ALL plant foods have this number system.. The first number is Nitrogen content.. Second is Phosphorus, third is Potassium. You should be able to tell which has the most nitrogen.. by the first number being higher than the others... and your Ph should be between 5.8 and 6.3 for soil.. 6.5 is too high!

[XXXJAYXXX]

Your plants use a LOT of nitrogen to produce strong roots... Thats why clones always turn yellow when they are rooting.. its a Nitrogen Deficiency.. If i were you I would clip off the bottom couple leaves that are yellowed.. and up the Nitrogen slightly in your feed.. Getting rid of the yellow leaves will alow the plant to heal.. and stop trying to repair dead leaves.. Those leaves will never turn green again.. so you may as well get them out of there asap! Good luck dude!

[pushit]

Less is always more with seedlings.. Nute burn usually only hits the tips of the newest leaves first.. causing pretty much instant death of the very tips of the leaves and then spreading inwards.... Full yellowing of the leaves like that is usually a deficiency... the newer leaves on those plants appear to be more green than the lower ones.. which leads me to believe its nutrient deficiency and not burn.. Your plant food should have 3 numbers on it seperated by dashes.. I believe ALL plant foods have this number system.. The first number is Nitrogen content.. Second is Phosphorus, third is Potassium. You should be able to tell which has the most nitrogen.. by the first number being higher than the others... and your Ph should be between 5.8 and 6.3 for soil.. 6.5 is too high!

You are talking about ph in soilless. Look up a ph chart before you give advise. 6.3-6.8 is perfect for soil grows. 6.5 is no where near too high.
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[bitemybud]

Less is always more with seedlings.. Nute burn usually only hits the tips of the newest leaves first.. causing pretty much instant death of the very tips of the leaves and then spreading inwards.... Full yellowing of the leaves like that is usually a deficiency... the newer leaves on those plants appear to be more green than the lower ones.. which leads me to believe its nutrient deficiency and not burn.. Your plant food should have 3 numbers on it seperated by dashes.. I believe ALL plant foods have this number system.. The first number is Nitrogen content.. Second is Phosphorus, third is Potassium. You should be able to tell which has the most nitrogen.. by the first number being higher than the others... and your Ph should be between 5.8 and 6.3 for soil.. 6.5 is too high!
Thi is totally backward advice. When salts are too strong the older leaves burn 1st. New growth is what you watch to see if you fixed the problem. Best read some more before steering newb growers wrong. Peace

Finally; Sorry; but, You do not know what you are talking about as far as ph. 5.5-6.0 for hydro; 6.5-7.0 for soil always!

[Kevthe1st]

Am i rite by thinking this is male ?
And will this Affect my Others

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[ToKAlot]

Yes thats a male u need to pull it or else when u flower u will have seeds...

[Kevthe1st]

Thanks tokalot
Well it seems that i solve 1 prob then a new one pops up :(
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I was feeding 4/5 times a day on a timer for 15 mins a time, but the pots were always soked, so im now feeding when the potts are dryer
Any advice as to what im doing wrong would be realy Appreciated

[Kevthe1st]

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[Kevthe1st]

hi guys
well this problem seems is pesistant :mad:
altho the new groth looks nice and healthy the leafs below turn a yellow then dry out also have brown discolouration on a few top leaf ??
these were grown from seed aprox 7 weeks now.

temp lights on is around 80
humidity lights on is around 40%
i have theses on 15 min feeds 3 times a day lights on the pots are always moist.

iv just changed feed to original hydro/a/b 37ml per 15 ltrs of each. is there anything i could add to remady this prob??
il post new pics shortly

[Kevthe1st]

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[bitemybud]

Best I can tell from the piks, It appears to me that you are over watering. Also; you need a ppm/tds pen. I would make nutrients 800ppm now that they are established, but you need a pen to make the nutrient strength adjustments.

Good Luck, Hang in there