Cloning question

[markhug]

[attachment=o286277][attachment=o286278]I have started some clones in a oxyclone 20 site using well water and one quarter teaspoon of Superthrive. After 3 days they have developed a film in the stem that is sitting in the water. Is this a normal condition. My leaves are also starting to yellow. If not what can I do correct the problem.

[Bloomin Idiot]

Dont clone with superthrive.

Get clonex solution and add it to the water.

That is the superthrive clinging to the stem and choking it to death.

[markhug]

So for now the best thing I can do is spray them off and change the water, thill I can get some clonex?

[Leonardo de Garden]

Change the water and gently wash off the film. Cuttings should root even without additional rooting hormone, the hormone is mostly just to help out a little, esp in a cloner.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Do what Leo said. Don't use the well water untill you know what is in it. Go get some distilled or R/O water to use.

and what you got there is starting root rot but it is cyano-bacteria most likely from your well water. hell you can get it in public water systems.

I would clean it all up real good and start with neew ones if I could.
if you see this again run to the pet store and get E.M. ERYTHOMYCIN ANTI-BACTERIAL FISH MEDICATION. mix it as it says for the amount of water.. you could do this now if you have no choices.

[markhug]

Just a follow up I cleaned the plants and the system out. Changed the water to distilled. Bought the clonex but have not used it.
The stems are still clean after a few days

Thanks

[Leonardo de Garden]

As much as I hate to say it, distilled and RO aren't the best for cloning. Unless your tap water is crap, it's probably your best bet. It isn't as "clean" and the traces in it seem to help. Go ahead and dip the ends in the clonex.

[markhug]

My tap water is "well water" is that ok to use. Do I need to have a clean cut on the stem before I dip them in Clonex?

[Leonardo de Garden]

As long as it's okay to drink, it's probably fine. Don't cut them as you don't want to cut off anything that's started. Just pour a little clonex in something and dip the ends. You want to get them straightened away so you can leave them alone.

[LOC NAR on probation]

how much poisin is too much ? I know what you say about trace elements and all but he had bown slime or cyano-bacteria.
if no signs of return it sounds good. if you tried your water and it works like my bro's then good use it. But otherwise how do you know whatis in it ?
That's why I learned the hard way to start clean and add the good stuff back . like some Olivia's cloning solution or clonex solution. you can even addsome of the clonex gell to the water to help.
I add to 5 gallon cloner. 6ml of boost and grow from technaflora and a bit of root 66.
However it works well with just R/O water. what I have found as far as cloning is that everyone must keep trying till you find your sweet spot. don't give up cause I have seen some wierd shit that works.

[markhug]

So far so good. I assume that if I've been drinking it for 30 years it was safe for the plants. I would like to start completely over, but my mothers are exhausted. Took 40 cuttings from 2 plants over the past month. They are flowering pretty strong right now. The first 20 I cloned using vermiculite/perlite mix. Worked great, once they were rooted good I moved them to a a areoponics tank (low Pressure). Ofter 4 weeks they had very little root growth so I put them back in soil last night. I was hoping that starting them off in hydro would give better results. I won't try to get into my other problem with the areoponics. I did not know what I was doing, and my PH would jsy keep rising to 7.3 and above.

[LOC NAR on probation]

depending on how long they were in vermiculite would depend on what roots developed. Then the transition to areo would confuse them. Plants develope roots for what kind of soil they are growing in or water. changing back and forth can be done but is stressfull.
When I do clone for soil peeps they have to take them at first sign of root and they do well. I used rockwool and the root riots for years but found in hydro it cause problems keeping the stalck too wet. So all natural areo cloner and let me tell you it was a bitch for me to get a handle on it. I had to find just the right place for it where the temp is always good.

Good Luck and this is the hydro section so if you want to talk areo it's good.