NEW AND NEED INFO

[cj5787]

Hi, i am new to growing, let me get to the story lol, i have had a plant given to me off a old next door friend what as moved, it is just over 2ft tall and i would like to see if i can make it flower, so i want out last night and got a cfl bulb and a florescent strip light what i have put it going down the plant and the cfl above, like i said i am new to this so don't no much but would like to. If any one can help i dont have the money to go out and buy proper equipment so will try doing it homemade or cheap as chips if any one can help ???

[tysonjf]

yo dude im in the same situation as yourself had no money so decided to go wit cfls. i built my whole grow box, light fixtures and bulbs for less than 100 euro and the results are amazing have a look at the pictures they are week four of flower today.the bulbs are 24watt=130watt x 5 bulbs =output 650watts and very cheap on eletric.. id be more than happy to help with any questions you mite have...[attachment=o286077][attachment=o286078][attachment=o286079][attachment=o286079]

[EasyToRemember]

Is it in soil? Either way, eventually you might need to look into nutrients.

[cj5787]

hi thanks for getting back to me,:thumbsup: it looks like soil brown but don't know what he put it in as he paste it over to me and said have this if you wont ??. As for the cfls light how many would i need as i only have 1 that's 20w 90w brightness 1230 lumens ? that all its says on the box if that's any good ?? do i need a fan in with it and i water it evey time it feels dry is that right. i sound like a right di@k head asking all this but i guess i have to start somewhere lol

[Nelson Quebec]

Hi, I'm new to this site but I got a lot of growing experience and I would be glad to give you a hand.

I got a few questions. How big a pot is it in? Do you know if it is a regular photo period plant or an auto flowering plant? If you don't know then you will just have to treat it with a 12/12 on and off schedule. It will wrk for both Autos and Photos. Usually with photos they will flower with a 20 on and 4 off light and dark schedule so they can be grown in a room where there in ambient light. Photo plants need their darkness to bloom. A closet will do. Did you get a timer with your lights? Is there any sign of hairs on the top of plants? Can you tell a male from a female?



Hi, i am new to growing, let me get to the story lol, i have had a plant given to me off a old next door friend what as moved, it is just over 2ft tall and i would like to see if i can make it flower, so i want out last night and got a cfl bulb and a florescent strip light what i have put it going down the plant and the cfl above, like i said i am new to this so don't no much but would like to. If any one can help i dont have the money to go out and buy proper equipment so will try doing it homemade or cheap as chips if any one can help ???

[cj5787]

hi thank you. Yes it is a female as it as little hairs the auto thing, i am not to sure about as he did have one out side and one inside, and don't know which one he gave me he was a old bloke, the pot is a medium size i would say, i was going to start doing the 12/12 lighting to night, it is in a closet with the light as for the timer i have will been turning them off by the wall how many lights do i need ??

[cj5787]

just gone got 2 more lights

[cj5787]

just gone got 2 more lights

[Nelson Quebec]

Well the big thing is over it is a female so you will not be waisting your time.

Of course you don't have a light meter so you will just have to guess as to how much you need. The more the better up to a certain point. I use about 35 watts per sq. ft of grow area. With one plant in a pot you basically have about 2 sq. ft. You can get by with 70 watts of CFL. The same goes for reflecting the light sideways onto the plant. A sheep of white plastic just hanging around the edges of the plant really works well at reflecting the light onto the plant.

The more of the light that shines on the pot the better. I few simple improvements can be had by simple stuff. I cut a hole in the middle of tenfoil pie plates and reflect the light from the bulb downward simply by placing the bulb threw the pie plate before screwing it in the socket. Some method of raising and lowering the lights helps a lot like ropes hanging from a pulley so the bulbscan be raised up and down really helps a lot also. CFL lighting tends not to burn the top of the lants and can be kept down to 4 inches from the top of the plant. You mentioned earlier that you had two bulbs. I would be burning then both on at the same time.

Do you have a fan that you can move the air with? What are you going to feed the plant with? You will need some sort of fertilizer.


QUOTE=cj5787;2233149]hi thank you. Yes it is a female as it as little hairs the auto thing, i am not to sure about as he did have one out side and one inside, and don't know which one he gave me he was a old bloke, the pot is a medium size i would say, i was going to start doing the 12/12 lighting to night, it is in a closet with the light as for the timer i have will been turning them off by the wall how many lights do i need ??[/QUOTE]

[cj5787]

hi i have 3 cfl light as know i have 3 plants just got two more.I have just had the light off for 2hrs as i want out and forgot i pulled the plug out,and i have only just noticed the leaves seem abit droopy could i have the lights to close. As for plant food i will have to get some what is a cheap one to get i ant got a fan but can go out and pick one up

[Nelson Quebec]

Usually droopy leaves mean the plant needs water. Lights too close is usually shown by the plant with tips of the leaves turning brown showing the plant is being burned.


hi i have 3 cfl light as know i have 3 plants just got two more.I have just had the light off for 2hrs as i want out and forgot i pulled the plug out,and i have only just noticed the leaves seem abit droopy could i have the lights to close. As for plant food i will have to get some what is a cheap one to get i ant got a fan but can go out and pick one up

[tysonjf]

yo dudes droopy leaves can also mean overwatering pictures would be handy.how much u watering and r u using nuts? you should let the soil dry out between waterings. cfls can be kept as close as 2 inch witout burning the plant.. i would aim for around 4 cfls per plant the more the better..just 2 wouldn grow much. also what K are the bulbs? (kelvin is different colour spectrums/temperature). 2700k-3000k warm is best for flowering and 6000k-6700k is best for veg i use a mix of these for flower and it seems to be working well.. i tried flowering with 6000k before and the results wer crap!! excuse my french!!here is a pic of an overwatered plant, hope this helps[attachment=o286088]

[cj5787]

hi the plant ant as bad as that pic, i think it just needed more water as its pick up abit know. What do you mean nuts ???. I have 3 cfs bulbs, it says 2700k=warm white, i will see if i can get a pic of the 2 plants up to day as there is one male there and don't know what to do with it??. should go and get plant food or tomato plant food. for the plants, how long does it take to bud ?

[tysonjf]

what i mean by nuts is (nutrients) ie= plant food!! plants need different amounts of n.p.k for veg and flowering. (N)=nitrogen (P)Phosphours (K)Potassium. plants in the veg state use higer amounts of (N) and lower amounts of (P) and in the flowering stage uses less (N) and more (P) so two different feeds for both veg and flower work well!! i use organic BIOBIZZ Bio-Grow for veg and and tomato feed for flower.dont like using chemicals after all we dont want to be smoking these chemicals so i go the organic route better tasting buds by far.. these work well for me anyway and the results are good. ya 2700k warm works well for flower but no so good for veg i uses a mixed spectrum of bulbs 3x 2700k and 2x6400k thes work well for both veg and flower. WHAT a male get that mother fucker out of there straight away if it pollnates your female, the female will put its energy into producing seed not bud. destroy the male or else move it far far away from the female once the male sacks open it releases pollen into the air. just a small amount of pollen can ruin your whole crop. even if you have the male far from the female and the pollen from the male gets on your hands or clothes and then you touch the female it will still ruin your crop. get some picts up man they mean a thousand words>>>>

[tysonjf]

sorry cj5787 dude forgot to answer your question how long will it take to bud? anywer from 6 weeks to 12 maybe even more all depants on the strain and growing conditions. for the best harvest time keep a close eye on the tricomes (the waxy liquid that ozzes from the leaves) when to harvest depends on what kind of high your after. when the tricomes turn milky you will want to start thinking of harvesting. once the tricomes go past the milky stage they turn amber.. milky tricomes=lighter head high buzz. amber tricomes= couch lock all over body stone depends on what stone your after i like a 50/50. 50% milkey and 50%amber.. you will need a 100x microsope to see the tricomes you can buy them on ebay for less than 10 dollars.. hope this helps..

[cj5787]

thanks i will have a look on ebay and see what i can find. good news just been having a good look at the plant and its got little white hairs on, so must be female ? i am trying to get some pics up, just been and got a hanging kit so i can get all the leads out the way, i don't think i am doing it the right way but soon find out when i can get this pics up, i have just got some miracle-gro pour and feed if that's any good as girl friend wonted some any way

[cj5787]

arrrrrr this one plant is driving me mad the smallest one the only little hairs and they are little is at the top of the plant they are the only hairs i can see on it

[cj5787]

not to good pics as camera is shi@, like i said i think i am doing it all wrong i will be sorting all the leads out and putting them out the way so if i need to change any-think plz just say ass i dont know what i am doing :what: and i will sort it out thanks

the pic close up is to see if you can see if it male or female lol

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[tysonjf]

Yo dude dont use merical grow full of chemicals for the best tasting buds use organic nuts... nice plants you should replant them in bigger pots they look pretty small what size are they?? your plants will double in size during flowering if there all females man your going to get a big yeild...move your lights closer around 2 to 3 inch from plants this reduces stretch..your lights look pretty far to me. add more lights maby 3 more the more the bigger the buds..you should put sides and a top around the plants paint them white it will reflect alot of light its cheap i built my box for 40euro got the panals in hardware store.. important if your in 12/12 the dark period cant be interuped if any light at all hits the plant during the dark period even for a second it will stun the plant and turn it hermie or male happened me before and ya defantly dont want that. the whloe grow would be a complete wast of time.. also in the pics i notice your plants seem to be eaten by some kind of insect the leaves are damaged.. i cant tell from your pic if its male, female or hermie just look up the net for picts of females..males and hermies(hermie is a plant that has both male and female flowers)but if your plants have hairs cumin out of the ball shapes there girls..males look like little bunches of grapes with no hairs happy growing:hippy:

[cj5787]

ya when i had the plants the leaves have been eat, if i get some new pots do i just pull them out nice and slow and put more soil in the new pots with the old stuff, the plants are over 2ft tall, i will go and move them closer now, i am going to take this miracle-gro back and get the tomato food.as for the side and top just make a box out of wood i guess. the little plant as only got hairs right at the top on the little ball i can not see any going down the plant like i can on the two big ones ? i am 50/50 thank you for all your help :thumbsup:

[tysonjf]

No man dont pull them out it will destroy the roots.. water the plants with straight water till it runs out the bottom of the pot then leave them stand for about ten mins mayby more. then turn the plants upside down and they should slide out of the pot with ease with all the soil and roots intact you will need some help because your plants r big. then just put them in the new pots and top up the pot with new soil simple as that.. ya man i made mine from wood very cheap to build,, man just keep a close eye on your plants and make sure they are 100% not male cause if the male pollanates the will ruin all the other plants. how long are u in 12/12 schedule it usually takes from a few days to 2 weeks to determine the sex.. keep me posted on ur grow it will be good to c how things work out for ya... post some new pics soon...:rastasmoke:

[cj5787]

i will do m8, just got the wood and new pots and one more light so i will upload some pics when i am all done its been in 12/12 for 3 days know 9am to 9pm i did wont 9pm to 9am but i can not do it know can i

[tysonjf]

Ya you can still chang the light schedual im gussing you want to run the lights between 9pm to 9 am?? when they go out at 9pm just leave them for 24 hours then switch them back on at 9pm the next day wont do your plants any harm...

[cj5787]

not fin got to do abit more do they need more room ? got to put a lid on top. I am thinking about taking the lights off that stand and put them in the top sink the lights in to the lid what will be going on, i have got 5 light to put in just need my drill to charge. how much could you sell a plant full of bud if any one was going to.

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[cj5787]

gone for this set up just need add the new lights and pot but is it ok [attachment=o286165][attachment=o286166]

[tysonjf]

Ya dude good job alot better than the way it woz. you will have to move the top up as the plant grows have some lights half way down the plant aswell there are goin to get farley big in the next few weeks.. ta be honest man i couldn tell ya how much bud your goin to get when you harvest all depends on strain, lights and and grow conditions. you should get a small fan in there aswell keeps the air movin around..

[tysonjf]

also forgot to add get yourself a cheap thermomoter and keep a eye on the temperture so it dont get too high.. and keep us up to date on ur grow too it will b good to c how things work out for you.. i reckon your lookin at another 7 to 9 weeks before harvest anyway. if ya have anymore questions just shoot.. im no expert grower but i know a bit and ill try help as much as i can.. ill add some pictures of my ladies later when the lights come you can have a look..

[cj5787]

ya would like to see how you have yours set up, i have done the top so i can move it up as the plants get bigger and i will let you know how i get on :thumbsup:

[tysonjf]

Ya dude keep me posted.. heres a few pics of setup and plants..[attachment=o286189][attachment=o286190][attachment=o286191][attachment=o286192][attachment=o286193]

[tysonjf]

Heres a few more pics..[attachment=o286194][attachment=o286195][attachment=o286196]

[cj5787]

looks good can i ask what is the bottle and pipe is for

[tysonjf]

The bottel and pipe(plastic bottel and garden hose) is for sucking in fresh air. i have a hole drilled in the wall straight through to the outside which i then put the hose through.. i have three small 12 volt computer fans built into the bottle and the hose goin in one end and i sealed it all well so there is no air leaks.. so when i switch on the fans it creates a vacume in the bottle which sucks in fresh air from outside all the time...its kinda like a mini air pump... works well as plants need plenty of co2 to survive and it cost me nothing to build... as i say again funds are very low...

[cj5787]

sound good there is no why i can do that, so what do i do for co2 or do i just get a computer fan and put that in with them

[tysonjf]

you will need ta get a fan anyway man keeps the air circulated all the time.. your box isnt fully sealed like mine and if your room is well ventlated i wouldn worrie too much.. you can build a cheap co2 genarator just look up youtube... so do ya no for sure if there female????

[cj5787]

the plants are in a big closet so will get a fan i was thinking about making a hole up in to the loft but don't wont any one getting a smell of them. the two big one are female and the one i did not know about as started getting the hairs coming out know

[tysonjf]

i dont no man they get very smelly so if ya have neighbours i would be worried about the smell.. my box is sealed tight so once its closed ya cant smell much.. i use plug in air-freshners around the house this helps hide the cannabis smell.. plus if the room your box is in is sealed tight i wouldn worrie about the smell too much!! there all females so you have the hardest part over at least now u know your time and effort wont go to waste..also man make sure your dark period stays 100% dark if there is any light leaks you risk turning your plants male or hermie happened me before and it ruind my whole grow 2 months of hard work all for noting. even if you wer to flick on the lights for a few seckonds during the dark period it stuns growth and reduces yeild.. next week will be week 2 of your flower so post a few picts..

[cj5787]

U can not smell it in that room but air-freshers the girl friend all ways buying them. I will stand in the room and turn the lights off make sore no light is coming in only way to find out, i have all so put some seeds in as my dad get the hemp for fishing be for its cooked and they have just popped out the soil, don't know what i am going to do with them just wonted to see if it would work can get you some pic if you wont to see.

[cj5787]

i all so have some tomato plant food should i use it and when and how often

[tysonjf]

Ya man some pics would be good.. ya best way to see if ya have light leaks is to stay in the room when lights off. dis way u will know for sure.. i use tomato feed for flower and it works brillant.. just start off wit quater strenth nuts and work your way up from there.. this way gets the plants used to the feed witout burning them.. i use 2 ml per litre but just cheque the lable on your feed could be stronger stuff than mine. when ya water your plant give it a good soaking and make sure the soil drys out between waterings.. overwatering causes many problems too..

[cj5787]

[attachment=o286224] The baby plants my dad gets big bags of them for fishing. Yep no light leaks. on the bottle of the food it says 4.51 to 1/2 cup but i do not have a clue ?? i did try it on the baby plants 19 cups of water and 1/2 plant food but then i have a big tub of it and no where to put it.

[tysonjf]

When ya say he uses them for fishing?? how dose he use them for fishing?? never heard of this.. is that 4.51ml to a half cup if so thats way too strong.. my feed is measured in ml just add 2ml per litre and ya should be ok. them seedlings are doin good.. never feed seedlings man there too small for feed it will burn the shit out of them and then they will die.. there should be enough nuts in the soil that will feed the seedlings for a few weeks until they get bigger then feed them..

[cj5787]

ye its fishing hemp u get it from fishing shops but they have to cook it so you can not grow and it don't kill the fish, but my dad gets it it from some where, where it ant been cooked. so 2ml of water and how much plant food ??

[tysonjf]

oh rite... 2ml plant food per litre of water

[cj5787]

ok thanks just every time i water them put the food in

[tysonjf]

When i water my plants, i water with plain water inbetween feeds.. seems to work good.

[tysonjf]

yo dude hows your grow doing??

[cj5787]

going ok so far had some burnt leaves where it dropped down. the buds are coming when u touch them they are a little bit sticky. [attachment=o286516] [attachment=o286517]

[tysonjf]

going ok so far had some burnt leaves where it dropped down. the buds are coming when u touch them they are a little bit sticky. [attachment=o286516] [attachment=o286517]

Ya man looking good.. how long you in flower now.. the stickness on your fingers is the resin,, can ya see any tricomes yet??

[cj5787]

ya going good its 4-5 weeks i think not to sore tho lol. The tricomes yes on the bud and leaves, how long and when do i know i can take the bud off and how do i do it, do i take all the little ones too thanks

[tysonjf]

ya going good its 4-5 weeks i think not to sore tho lol. The tricomes yes on the bud and leaves, how long and when do i know i can take the bud off and how do i do it, do i take all the little ones too thanks
when the tricomes start to turn amber about 20% amber and 80% cloudy its entirley up to you... i would say you have at least another 3 to 4 weeks..

[cj5787]

ya i was thinking about 3 weeks, will have to see how it goes. What should it look like when its ready ???