Hello From Canada , Iam Slim and I have some questions about my outdoor plants

[Slim Swayze]

Hello , I have 2 Bubba Kush Plants. They have been outdoors since may 21st , its now Mid August and my plants are starting to turn yellow as well as curling up and getting brown spots on them , iam using miracle grow Ultra Bloom i took some pictures of them today , they were doing amazing and the one is worse then the other a bit. Also Im starting indoor soon as my card allows me to grow 14 outdoor or 52 indoor and i only grew 2 outdoor for now. although my script my get lowered in march 2013 for now iam fully legal to grow up to 52 plants indoor which i would like to start soon , i know a bit but need to learn alot more , right now i only have 2 400 watt M/H for lights but i will get everything i need to start in the next month or so and get more lights etc as i get more money , but i will start with 2 400s and a 1,000 .. anyone who is interested in helping me learn and building a friendship iam totally down... thanks :)

[painretreat]

Good choice in strain slim, should be interesting to hear results.

OK, you have them in small buckets for outside...but that most likely has little to do with it, idk. But, you need to put in more details for the expert growers here to come in and say too much. Real hard to tale what is going on, without filling out the form, you'll find it in Dutch Pimp's signature. Post it.
Under light schedule--post where the plant is and what it is doing, in relationship to the sun...idk, i haven't read the form in a very long time...I will, once you fill it out. Good luck with your grow! Oh, and welcome! :jointsmile:pr
btw, good job so far.

oh, and put the info down in the problem plant area...the trouble shooters, peek in there frequently.

[Bloomin Idiot]

Zinc (Zn) Micro Nutrient and an Immobile element.


Zinc plays a lot of roles in the plants, first off zinc aids in the plants size and maturity as well as production of leaves, stalks, stems and branches. Zinc is an essential component in many enzymes as well as growth hormone auxin .Low auxin levels can be the cause of stunting of the plants leaves and the shoots. Zinc is also important in the formation and activity of chlorophyll. Plants that have a good level of Zinc, can handle long droughts. So that’s why Zinc plants an important role how it absorbs moisture.


Zinc deficiencies on some plants will have the Spotting and bleached spots (chlorosis) between the veins first appears on the older leaves first, and then goes on to the immature leaves. It will then start to slowly affect tips of growing points of the plants. When the zinc deficiency happens so suddenly, the spotting can appear to be the same symptoms to that of an iron and manganese, without the seeing the little leaf symptom.
Zinc is not mobile in plants so the symptoms will occur mainly in the newer growths. Having a plant that is deficiency in Zinc can cause small crops, short shoots and have a cluster of small distorted leaves near the tips. Between the veins (Interveinal) yellowing is often combined with overall paleness. Pale or grayish, yellowing between the veins; rosetted weak is the signs of a Zinc deficiency.
With a low level of zinc in your plants, your yields will be dramatically reduced.
Interveinal chlorosis is present in the small, narrow distorted leaves at the ends of really shortened shoots and the shortening between internodes. Leaf margins are often distorted or wrinkled. These nutrients will get locked out due to high pH: Zinc, Iron, and Manganese. These deficiencies will often occur together. Parts affected by a zinc deficiency are young leaves and petioles.

Having an excess of Zinc is very rare, but when it does happen it can cause wilting and in worse cases death.


Problems with Zinc being locked out by PH troubles

High ph, Low organic matter, High Phosphorus levels in the soil, and or lack of nitrogen.


Soil

Zinc gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 4.5-4.7, 7.5-9.5
Zinc absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 5.0-7.0 (Wouldn’t recommend having a soil ph of over 7.0 in soil) Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Zinc Deficiency.

Solution to fixing a Zinc deficiency
Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have potassium in them will fix a Zinc deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients or it will cause nutrient burn!)
And any of the following nutrients will fix a zinc deficiency: Zinc sulfate, zinc chelated, or zinc oxides are adequate fertilizer sources for zinc. Or you can bury galvanized nails in the soil. (Make sure you take off the sharp point at the end to prevent roots from being damaged) Garden Manure, which is slow acting. Greensands, Cottonseed Meal are both medium/slow absorption as well.

[Slim Swayze]

ok thanks . im very new to this forum stuff , i couldnt find dutch pimp or the form , do u have a link and ill fill it out today , also i see someone else posted some helpful info :)

[Dutch Pimp]

I don't see any MAJOR problems in those pics. The plants are heavy on the sativa side and are slow to respond to the shorter daylight hours....thus....lack of flower budding. It's going to be close to being cold outside in Canada; by the time 12/12 occurs on 22 Sept. If it starts getting cold at night?...I would consider moving them indoors for 12 hours of darkness. (Check for bugs)

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/173775-cancom-copy-n-paste-troubleshooting-forms.html

[Esteban1]

Question:

Don't see much flowering.... I'm still a tad green around the gills but shouldn't there be some flower activity or is it the particular strain?

Sic Semper Tyrannus

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[Dutch Pimp]

Question:

Don't see much flowering.... I'm still a tad green around the gills but shouldn't there be some flower activity or is it the particular strain?

Sic Semper Tyrannus

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If a person likes growing green leaves?...then you want sativa strains; with no frost until Christmas...:D

If a person likes growing buds...then you want Indica strains

[Esteban1]

Thanks Dutch.... Again, still green! Have both going & you couldn't be more correct!

Sic Semper Tyrannus

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[Slim Swayze]

Thanks bro , they are Bubba Kush , i just moved and what i realize i think was at my old place the street light was putting some light on at night would they be why they havent been budding like they should? i also have a 400 watt can i put them under them on a 12/12 ? it doesnt get to cold here till mid october... also i will be starting indoor i was going to clone some off those from the bottom also have purple kush clone coming.

[Slim Swayze]

the tips are browing pretty bad , it hasnt gotten any better i havent fed other then the other day just water.. is it a zinc def? cause ill get whatever i need a week ago they were amazing? :(

[Slim Swayze]

hey guys , here are some pics of the plants now , i think i have another week or maybe 2 if iam lucky till its cold , should these put on more weight in the last 2 weeks? or does it look like i might need to finish them inside?

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