Dilution without creatine.

[Desroth]

Hey all, I was just curious if anyone has had any luck passing a UA without taking creatine. I expected to have a full week to clean out my system for my drug test but the letter they sent me got lost in the mail and so I had a little more then 48 hours notice that I would have to pass a UA. The last time I smoked was 2 days ago and I have to take my UA by tomorrow afternoon. So far I've purchased 2500 MG B-12 vitamins (which I took two of about an hour ago) some tums to take in the morning and 3 gatorades that I'll be waking up early and drinking tomorrow before I have to take my UA. My question is that if I eat a pasta dish wish some red meat(sausage) will that be enough to keep my creatine levels at a semi-normal rate? I've thought about telling them that I was a vegetarian because I've heard that will cause you to have a lower creatine level but I've never had to take a UA before. I don't want to make myself look worse by diluting and not getting away with it so should I even bother trying to dilute without the creatine? Thanks in advance.

[Burnt Toast]

My question is that if I eat a pasta dish wish some red meat(sausage) will that be enough to keep my creatine levels at a semi-normal rate? Nope. Especially since your U/A is scheduled for tomorrow. It takes 2-3 days for the body to convert creatine into creatinine in order for it to be present in the urine. Creatinine is the end waste product that is tested for in determining an overly-diluted urine sample.
Therefore, any creatine-loading must be done at least 3 days before the scheduled U/A.

BTW, the proper vitamin for urine color is B2 (Riboflavin), not B12. However, with creatinine and specific gravity checks being lab SOP in recent years, color became the least aspect in determining an overdiluted urine sample. Even samples with a nice yellow color to them can still exhibit unsatisfactory S/G and creatinine readings.


The last time I smoked was 2 days ago How much did youve smoked and what is your overall smoking history?

And how important is it for you to pass this U/A and what are the consequences should you not pass?

[Desroth]

Nope. Especially since your U/A is scheduled for tomorrow. It takes 2-3 days for the body to convert creatine into creatinine in order for it to be present in the urine. Creatinine is the end waste product that is tested for in determining an overly-diluted urine sample.
Therefore, any creatine-loading must be done at least 3 days before the scheduled U/A.

BTW, the proper vitamin for urine color is B2 (Riboflavin), not B12. However, with creatinine and specific gravity checks being lab SOP in recent years, color became the least aspect in determining an overdiluted urine sample. Even samples with a nice yellow color to them can still exhibit unsatisfactory S/G and creatinine readings.

How much did youve smoked and what is your overall smoking history?

And how important is it for you to pass this U/A and what are the consequences should you not pass?

Thanks for the fast reply. And that sucks about the vitamins, I read in a couple threads that it didn't matter what kind of vitamin B you bought, must have gotten some misinformation. And I smoked maybe a gram of nugs over the last week and a half, maybe half of a bowl 2 days ago. I've toned down my smoking quite a bit over the last month but prior to that I was stoned pretty much 24/7 for like 3 years. As far as the consequences to it I won't know for sure until I talk to my lawyer in the morning. My diversion just started on July 20th and I'm not 100% if it's still accurate but my lawyer told me I should be okay if I piss dirty on my first UA, but obviously i'd like to avoid pissing dirty if possible (which may not be an option at this point.) I plan on contacting my lawyer in the morning and seeing what he says and if all else fails I'll just tell them I stopped smoking as soon as my diversion started (which could still cause me to piss dirty since that was like 2 weeks ago)