Leaves @ The Top Of My Plant Are Wilting On My Newly Flowering Girl

[HazyMorning]

My plant's leaves are wilting just on top where it's flowering. I've been flowering for two weeks, no issues until now. Nothing has changed. Below is a list of needed information. I can post a picture soon.

Indoor grow
Soilless Medium
FoxFarm soiless Mix
Water is from tap, sat out for 24-30 hours. White distilled vinegar added to bring down Ph. I water every 4-5 days.
Ph is between 6.5-6.8
Plant is 8 weeks old, has been flowering for 2 weeks.
Strain is Sour Diesel.
Nutrients are laid on top of growing medium before watering. Nutrients are: Vital Earth's Guano Mix, Mega Worm Earthworm Castings and Powered Glacial Rock.
Plant has only received Powered Glacial Rock after leaves had already started wilting. No nutrients giving since flowering other than Glacial Rock added once. I do not have the other nutrients needed for flowering. I know that it's not the nutes because my Pineapple Express right beside it is fine. The Pineapple Express started flowering with the Sour Diesel on the same day.
Light source is a 68 watt, twisty CFL placed 2 inches from plant.
Air temp is between 75-85 degrees. Has been since seed.
Humidity runs between 45-75%
Lighting schedule is 12/12.
Ventilation is an open window with a fan.

Thanx in advance.

[HazyMorning]

Here a Picture of it.

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[Bloomin Idiot]

Looks like overwater.

Each plant is different. What is good for 1 strain isnt always the best for another. " I know that it's not the nutes because my Pineapple Express right beside it is fine" isnt true.

Hope this helps.

[HazyMorning]

This Plant is a member of a project that I put together 8 weeks ago call: Project Lumens. The idea that I had (I'm sure I'm not the only one) is to see, what... if any, buds can be grown with low grade CFL lighting and occasional sunlight. I also am not giving it an adequate amount of nutrients. I want to find out if anyone can grow good bud on a very low budget. This has been fun for me so far.

The bad news is that I may have stressed the Sour Diesel to much. Last night, I found a few pollen sacks on it. He/She hermed on me. So, I'm going to be very careful from here on out.

Thanx for the advice. You are right, I think I did over watered it. I was wondering in the back of my mind if I had.

Thanx again. :cool:

[Michael Oliver]

Really appreciate your succinct description of your set-up! "Usually" the wilting leaves is either too much or too little H2O! Do you have a source of CO2 there?
My own (1st) Indoor (have done outdoor long ago) has "weathered" my own inexpertise, and we are now at week;13 or 14 since planting my "Seed's" from SOHUM; Kona and Hula Buddha (Southern Humboldt Cooperative) and i'm pleased, but getting (somewhat) impatient (hold on Mike!) finally getting some nice flowering! Figure i might be three weeks till harvest (fingers crossed!) O.K. in a 4X4X76" Grow Tent (GrowAce and i do recommend them) using 400W MH/SPS (two bulbs and next time i will use them both at same time!) we've been on Sodium bulb for about 9 days now. H2O is Filtered using simple ZERO system! Nutes are "OneNess" (solely) by Humboldt Nutrients. 4" intake fan and charcoal filter. "The Exhale" (35.00) provides the CO2. and time cycle now is 12/12. I made very early mistake by smaller containers, and NOT enough time under lights!(during Veg stage). IF i could figure out how to load pic's on this site, i'd post some i made! BEST of Luck Bro!

[Michael Oliver]

OH! Forget to mention; "Low Budget"! yeh, that's me too; here's my capital outlay;
Tent, Lights, Fan, Charcoal, CO2, H20 Filters; approx $550.00
Seeds!; Ten Bucks Each and i lost 5 of ten planted to "Huevos" (Maleness)!
So i laid out 200.00 for Seeds at my Med. Club, and those Seeds are now Sold Out.
I've got 12 left and will do much better the 2nd time!

[imchucky666]

Low Budget?
That's what I got going on right now, I have 3 plants that I started from seeds that I had acquired, started them in the garage and had no idea of what I was doing at the time, so they got light during daytime hrs. from a four foot flour. tube ( I went and bought one of the $10 ones for growing and replaced one of the regular ones in the fixture over my work bench).
I started them in cotton balls in a clear Potato salad to go container, actually thinking the light might be good for the roots LOL, then transplanted them after they sprouted into 2 liter bottle bottoms, in some soil I found on sale at Walgreens, and now, at 16 weeks or so, have them in Miracle Grow soil in buckets and have been watering with tap water after I let it sit for at least 24 hrs., and using some MG all purpose fertilizer that I already had, (12-12-12 I think).
The tallest is about 46" tall, and the smallest is 2' tall.

[Esteban1]

@ this early stage of flowering I would recommend a small amount of nutes!! Gotta understand that this is a WEED..... Will do fine on her own cannabalizing on the lower leaves. So yea, imho methinks ur over fertilizing. Again, this is info that has been passed on to me & trying to pay it forward with decent advice.


Sic Semper Tyrannus

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[Esteban1]

Oh, MORE LIGHT.... Can put 87 octane in me bmw 528i & will run fine but prefers 93. In other words low budget doesn't necessarily mean slouching on a proper light source otherwise wasting ur time even in an experiment. Known Facts..... Cannabis prefers some high octane lighting, why do ya think they do so so well close to the equator?


Sic Semper Tyrannus

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[MedicineMan11]

HazyMorning,
I think if you check you will find that somehow your PH got low.

[HazyMorning]

Thanx and no, I'm not using CO2 with this project. I'm pretty much treating this grow as a ghetto grow, that's how "low budget" I'm going with this. Yeah, I'm an outdoor grower myself (Years ago), I've recently gone indoors. I couldn't tell you how many grows I've done so far, I've last count. Maybe around 50. Yup, I'm guessing it was over watered. This is my first grow with sour diesel, I was thinking that maybe it's a sensitive strain. Thanx again.

[HazyMorning]

Thanx. However, no... low lighting is the basis of the experiment. This project isn't just about a low budget, it's about how much the plant will need to fight in order to existence because of it's bad situation, out of that frustration, that fight to live, what will it produce? I want to track it all, write down everything. I'm collecting the data to use for other purposes. These were grown from quality medical strains - sour diesel and pineapple express. Should be interesting results.

[HazyMorning]

Thanx. No, PH is sitting between 6.3 & 6.5.

[HazyMorning]

Looks like overwater.

Each plant is different. What is good for 1 strain isnt always the best for another. " I know that it's not the nutes because my Pineapple Express right beside it is fine" isnt true.

Hope this helps.

Your right, I should have said that "the pineapple express is fine, maybe the sour diesel is a more sensitive strain." Thanx.

[HazyMorning]

Here's a few new pictures of the Sour Diesel. As you can see, "Ghetto" growing isn't all that bad. I've treated this plant like crap, I'll admit it. I haven't ignored it, but I could have treated it better. This is the forth week of flower. Oh, I did clip a few sugar leaves poking out of the bud to smoke, just to test potency, it gave me a nice buzz for a few minutes. I think the buds will be decent. I also lollipopped the hell out of it, part of the experiment.

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[tysonjf]

Hi guys thats exactly what im doin now cheap stealt grow for less than 100 euro.. 5 x 25 watt cfls very cheap on elteric amazing results..[attachment=o286071][attachment=o286072][attachment=o286073][attachment=o286074] sorry man dont mean to crash your thread man but if have lollipopped, f.i.m and toped these plants so if ya need any questions answered id be happey to help.. today is week four flower and everything is doin brillant so far anyway... peace out!!

[Bloomin Idiot]

Here's a few new pictures of the Sour Diesel. As you can see, "Ghetto" growing isn't all that bad. I've treated this plant like crap, I'll admit it. I haven't ignored it, but I could have treated it better. This is the forth week of flower. Oh, I did clip a few sugar leaves poking out of the bud to smoke, just to test potency, it gave me a nice buzz for a few minutes. I think the buds will be decent. I also lollipopped the hell out of it, part of the experiment.

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Odd looking. Doesn't look at all like my sour diesel did on week 4.
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the sour diesel is in the back, its GDP in front.

[HazyMorning]

Odd looking. Doesn't look at all like my sour diesel did on week 4.
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the sour diesel is in the back, its GDP in front.

Maybe it's because yours wasn't abused. I even picked lower flowers on the main kola's, so that those flowers couldn't merge with the top ones, making the buds smaller. (Yes, I know. Why would I do that? Just part of the project.) I should say that, Project Lumens is Mainly about lighting, but I'm also testing other aspects. Some of my test are facts that I'd like to reproduce. ...Just saying.
As far as yours not looking like mine. I can only say that maybe it's because you grow yours right and mine happens to be what Sour Diesel looks like when you beat it. Lol, I don't know.

[HazyMorning]

Very nice for a CFL grow, they look beautiful. However CFL lighting isn't that much cheaper than HID's depending on how many watts and the bulbs your using. If you were to buy a 250 watt HPS, your yield would greatly increase and your electric bill would only see a slight increase. If your really looking to save money on your electric bill than investing in a quality LED system would be the lighting setup your seeking. Make sure the bulbs are 3 watts each and don't go cheap, your investment will be large, but the results are greater. Your grow results will be more than satisfying and your electric bill will hardly take a hit... well, it'll be much cheaper than CFL or HPS by a long shot. All the BS you may have heard about LED's stems from 1 watt bulb systems, make sure you buy a 3 watt bulb system.
I don't know if your looking to better your lighting or not, but I thought I'd throw my advice your way anyhow.
Thanx.

[HazyMorning]

I just received some GDP seeds that I will be germinating soon. They won't be an experiment, they'll be treated with love and respect. Lol.
I Love GDP, it a really nice strain. I'll share pics of the grow with you, if you'd like.

[Bloomin Idiot]

My last GDP grow.

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[HazyMorning]

Sweet! How was it? Taste, smell & high.

[Leonardo de Garden]

Can't tell for sure, but they look slightly overwatered to me. Does the soil stay wet all the time or does at least the top of the soil dry out between waterings?

[tysonjf]

Yes hazymorning led is much better i will invest when i have the money.. rite now all i can afford is just straight cfl. nice plant bloomin idiot what lights u using??

[Bloomin Idiot]

It smelled like grapes, flavor was great. I use a new drying rack this time. Im 50/50 on it. I think it dried a bit to fast making the final cure take longer. otherwise it was great.

I use 1000w HPS bulbs. There are many opinions on lighting. My personal is to hang them at the ceiling and leave them alone. people claim stretching but in flower they will anyways. The reason for me is I believe lumen and whatever else you want to measure are for your eyes. The 2 things that Ill put in laymens terms that matter to me are 1 the power lvl the light is produced/discharged and 2 color spectrum. I think once the electrons are discharged at a power level, they rain down like that. yes over distance they degrade, but your taking long distance and at the speed of light. I do believe that heat is an issue as I have burned many plant with lights. At the end of my grow the plants grow to the ceiling and over top of the lights.( I USE OPEN BULBS NO HOOD.) I know 1st hand commercially no one hangs bulbs 2' off the plants, commercial guys would laugh at the thought. If you look at commercial indoor grass sport fields or hydroponic fields the lights are way up there.

I know of a 100% t-5 grow. Looks good. Not as much beef but that can be other factors. His lights are 2" off the ceiling as well. with plants 3-4' below.


I know against anything anyone on a cannabis forum would say.