oneplusone81
06-08-2012, 12:25 PM
Dear group,
I was hoping you could provide a friend with some advice. My friend is testing positive for dilution, even though heā??s not intending to dilute. His creatine levels and specific gravity are coming back at very low rates.
As of today, he will have been clean for 61 days from marijuana and never did anything else. He took a cheaper home test at day 31, tested clean, and didnā??t think much about it. About 1 and Ā½ hours before each test, he takes his daily load of vitamins which is a lot and drinks water. However, he has not been taking his B vitamin complex b/c he has read that this can cause false positives for marijuana.
At day 57 (Monday), he took a more expensive home test that checked for adulteration as well, just to be on the safe side. He was shocked when his test came back positive for dilution, since he had no intention of diluting, since he had been clean for so long. The test had strong negatives for all the drugs tested.
He responded by taking the advice on these forums and elsewhere. On day 57, he started taking creatine. For day 57 and 58 he only took 20 g in chewable form, because he didnā??t really understand creatine loading. He drank a little Gatorade, limited his water intake, an took a Tums. He took an expensive test on day 59 and again had strong negatives but tested positive for dilution because of low creatine levels and low specific gravity. The levels had not changed. He did more research and started heavily loading creatine. On day 59 and 60 he took about 80-90 g of creatine, half in chewable form, half in dissolved form. He also checked for more advice on specific gravity and tripled the calcium supplements he had been taking and drank more Gatorade.
On the night of day 59 he really limited his fluid intake and on day 60 he only drank about 30 ounces of fluid between the time he woke up and the time of his home test at 8:30 p.m. About 1 Ā½ hours before his home test, he drank about 12 ounces of Gatorade (this was part of the total 30 fluid ounces and less than the other times) and took the vitamins he normally takes. Following advice he found on this website and others, he added one heaping teaspoon of salt to the Gatorade, one heaping teaspoon of a salt substitute that is a blend of sodium and potassium (it tasted terrible), and he also added one heaping tablespoon of creatine to the mixture for good measure. Heā??s still taking triple his normal dose of calcium. The urine was a dark yellow color, not vitamin yellow, but dark yellow.
All tests came back negative, although the line for marijuana was fainter than the control this time (it still was a solid line but the other tests had the line as the same as the control). His creatine levels and specific gravity did not change one bit. They still listed him as being diluted and the amounts did not change at all.
He is worried that he is going to fail his official drug test which happens on day 64 (today, Friday, is day 61). His big concern is finding a way to raise his creatine and specific gravity. He is still going to creatine load, so hopefully that eventually has an effect. He doesnā??t know what to do about specific gravity, other than to keep trying with the methods heā??s already discussed. Rolaids are not available anywhere around where he lives; he guesses there is a recall or something.
As for his stats, as noted earlier, he has been clean for 61 days and will be clean for 64 days for the day of the test. He smoked a couple hitter rods of high quality stuff a night for about 9 months before quitting and was clean for a year before that. He is about 5ā??8ā? tall and currently weighs about 131 pounds. When he quit he weighed about 135 pounds and got down to 124 pounds before gaining some weight back. For five months, he went to the gym 6-7 times a week and has spent about an hour doing cardio and an hour lifting while there. He stopped going to the gym on day 58 and only walked that day. On day 59 he stopped all forms of exercise, aside from walking to the grocery store for Gatorade, etcā?¦ He has been a vegetarian for a long time, so that might be causing some of these issues.
Can someone please offer him some advice. This is for a job at a company he already works for, and if he fails heā??s going to be unemployed. Heā??s not really interested in substitution, since he doesnā??t know anyone who doesnā??t smoke and thinks that buying, etcā?¦ would be too late in the game and too complicated for him. Heā??s interested in what he can do to raise his levels and also wonders about the trade off of dilution versus non-dilution. If his test is going to show up as diluted anyway, maybe he should intentionally dilute, so that way thereā??s a higher chance his results will be below 15.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I hope employers, etcā?¦ donā??t monitor these sites. Iā??ve been so stressed out that Iā??m planning to quit for good, but this experience has really taught me how horrible our drug laws are and how horrible testing is. Iā??ll always be against those.
I was hoping you could provide a friend with some advice. My friend is testing positive for dilution, even though heā??s not intending to dilute. His creatine levels and specific gravity are coming back at very low rates.
As of today, he will have been clean for 61 days from marijuana and never did anything else. He took a cheaper home test at day 31, tested clean, and didnā??t think much about it. About 1 and Ā½ hours before each test, he takes his daily load of vitamins which is a lot and drinks water. However, he has not been taking his B vitamin complex b/c he has read that this can cause false positives for marijuana.
At day 57 (Monday), he took a more expensive home test that checked for adulteration as well, just to be on the safe side. He was shocked when his test came back positive for dilution, since he had no intention of diluting, since he had been clean for so long. The test had strong negatives for all the drugs tested.
He responded by taking the advice on these forums and elsewhere. On day 57, he started taking creatine. For day 57 and 58 he only took 20 g in chewable form, because he didnā??t really understand creatine loading. He drank a little Gatorade, limited his water intake, an took a Tums. He took an expensive test on day 59 and again had strong negatives but tested positive for dilution because of low creatine levels and low specific gravity. The levels had not changed. He did more research and started heavily loading creatine. On day 59 and 60 he took about 80-90 g of creatine, half in chewable form, half in dissolved form. He also checked for more advice on specific gravity and tripled the calcium supplements he had been taking and drank more Gatorade.
On the night of day 59 he really limited his fluid intake and on day 60 he only drank about 30 ounces of fluid between the time he woke up and the time of his home test at 8:30 p.m. About 1 Ā½ hours before his home test, he drank about 12 ounces of Gatorade (this was part of the total 30 fluid ounces and less than the other times) and took the vitamins he normally takes. Following advice he found on this website and others, he added one heaping teaspoon of salt to the Gatorade, one heaping teaspoon of a salt substitute that is a blend of sodium and potassium (it tasted terrible), and he also added one heaping tablespoon of creatine to the mixture for good measure. Heā??s still taking triple his normal dose of calcium. The urine was a dark yellow color, not vitamin yellow, but dark yellow.
All tests came back negative, although the line for marijuana was fainter than the control this time (it still was a solid line but the other tests had the line as the same as the control). His creatine levels and specific gravity did not change one bit. They still listed him as being diluted and the amounts did not change at all.
He is worried that he is going to fail his official drug test which happens on day 64 (today, Friday, is day 61). His big concern is finding a way to raise his creatine and specific gravity. He is still going to creatine load, so hopefully that eventually has an effect. He doesnā??t know what to do about specific gravity, other than to keep trying with the methods heā??s already discussed. Rolaids are not available anywhere around where he lives; he guesses there is a recall or something.
As for his stats, as noted earlier, he has been clean for 61 days and will be clean for 64 days for the day of the test. He smoked a couple hitter rods of high quality stuff a night for about 9 months before quitting and was clean for a year before that. He is about 5ā??8ā? tall and currently weighs about 131 pounds. When he quit he weighed about 135 pounds and got down to 124 pounds before gaining some weight back. For five months, he went to the gym 6-7 times a week and has spent about an hour doing cardio and an hour lifting while there. He stopped going to the gym on day 58 and only walked that day. On day 59 he stopped all forms of exercise, aside from walking to the grocery store for Gatorade, etcā?¦ He has been a vegetarian for a long time, so that might be causing some of these issues.
Can someone please offer him some advice. This is for a job at a company he already works for, and if he fails heā??s going to be unemployed. Heā??s not really interested in substitution, since he doesnā??t know anyone who doesnā??t smoke and thinks that buying, etcā?¦ would be too late in the game and too complicated for him. Heā??s interested in what he can do to raise his levels and also wonders about the trade off of dilution versus non-dilution. If his test is going to show up as diluted anyway, maybe he should intentionally dilute, so that way thereā??s a higher chance his results will be below 15.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I hope employers, etcā?¦ donā??t monitor these sites. Iā??ve been so stressed out that Iā??m planning to quit for good, but this experience has really taught me how horrible our drug laws are and how horrible testing is. Iā??ll always be against those.