Coco for the first time

[Crossy12]

:smokin: hi new in,tryin my hand at coco professional plus,with plagron coco a and b,use calmag once a week and multi zyme once a week,ph between 5.5 and 5.8,had a prob with my ph at the start and they yellowed and struggled a bit,sorted that now and they seem to be thriving,into my second week of flower now and I feed them first thing and about 4 hours befor lights out,usually about a litre an half each,I'm in 10 litre pots.i will add plagron green sensation top activator at week 3,they are lookin well at the mo,will drop a pic in soon to see how I'm doing and get some feed back,time to chill with the cheese happy days peeps :pimp:

[PhatJay]

Coco is a great medium to grow in, I love it. The PH range is 5.8 to 6.3 though. Most people including myself aim for a PH of 5.8.

[Crossy12]

Thanks for your input,how long have you been growing in coco?,do you start straight of at ph 5.8 6.3,I ask this because once my cuttings had rooted I put them in 10 litre pots,coco professional plus,ph was 6.1, I use plagron a and b,first 2 weeks they stressed and lost colour,added some calmag and enzymes once a week and they picked up a bit,still not thriving though,they started to burn on edges of leaves,I flushed them through thinking it was feed burn because of build up of salts and not feeding due to stress,still not thriving,when I flushed out the run of was 6.2,I was told to drop my ph and up the food,I was giving them 2ml to a litre,dropped ph to 5.5 to 5.8 and upped food to 3ml a litre,on 3rd week of flower now and I'm impressed,they respond so quick once you get it right,I will try an get some pics up but I'm having probs with finding how to send them in a message on this iPad 2 ????? Any ideas,once I get the pics up you can let me know how I'm doing,chat soon peace:wtf:

[PhatJay]

Thanks for your input,how long have you been growing in coco?

A couple of years. My first two grows are logged and linked to in my signiature.



,do you start straight of at ph 5.8 6.3,

Yes I start at 5.8 and continue with 5.8 all the way through. Although a little pH drift is not a bad thing as long as it is within range.



I ask this because once my cuttings had rooted I put them in 10 litre pots,coco professional plus,ph was 6.1, I use plagron a and b,first 2 weeks they stressed and lost colour,added some calmag and enzymes once a week and they picked up a bit,

I find that I need to add a little calmag in the first 2 weeks of flowering. If I don't the leaves go a little pale and you get brown spots start to form. This is quite normal for coco from speaking to other growers.



when I flushed out the run of was 6.2,

You cannot measure the run off from coco in the same way you would other mediums. The small particles in the coco effect the readings. Just measure what goes in and don't worry about measuring what comes out. If you are dead set on measuring outbound PH you are going to need to buy some filter paper and visit Canna on youtube for the instructions on how to do it.


I was told to drop my ph and up the food,I was giving them 2ml to a litre,dropped ph to 5.5 to 5.8 and upped food to 3ml a litre

I am actually using Plagron as well (I got a freebie at a show), The dosage ranges from 3.3ml per litre to 4ml litre. I have never used Plagron before but I am 2 weeks from harvest and everything looks the same as usual.


P.S. Can you break up your text next time. I saw that wall of text and nearly didn't bother replying. My eyes! :)

[Crossy12]

Lol,sorry about the eyes,I did say I was new to this :thumbsup:

[PhatJay]

One thing I forgot to ask is what light are you using? The amount of food your plants need will depend on the type/amount of light they are receiving. My early grows were with 500w of CFL light. Under CFL's I only used 3/4 strength food and never needed to add clamag in the 1st 2 weeks of flower. Under 250w of HPS I use full strength food and need to add calmag.

[Crossy12]

Useing 600 watt sodiums,things are going good at the mo.
Noticed 2of my ladies have started to curl up at the tips ?? Any info.
And also curling upwards on edges of the leaves which I know is a bit to hot .

[Crossy12]

Had a look at your grows nice,coming to the end of week 3 now,I'd say they pretty much the same as yours at that stage,still not sorted how to get the pics up yet :mad:Very new to computers old school lol

[Crossy12]

Here is our shop we use,have a peek,prob be same as yours? Hydroponics - Hydroponic Systems & Supplies - Growell Hydroponics (http://Www.growell.co.uk)

[Crossy12]

I was wandering bout these brown spots you have been getting,they look very similar to what I had which was wind burn down to the fan being to close ??

[Crossy12]

The curling was my fan again,got the brown spots aswell,definite wind burn only 3 affected were fan was pointed.
for some reason it locked on one position instead of moving side to side.
How long does it take before I can post pics ??

[PhatJay]

The curling was my fan again,got the brown spots aswell,definite wind burn only 3 affected were fan was pointed.
for some reason it locked on one position instead of moving side to side.
How long does it take before I can post pics ??

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You can add images to your album and people will be able to see them there. Or try a free image host like imgur or photobucket and paste the link into your post. The lip on your leaves is probably due to excessive heat. Without pics anything else is going to be hard to diagnose.

[PhatJay]

I was wandering bout these brown spots you have been getting,they look very similar to what I had which was wind burn down to the fan being to close ??

My plants are fine and healthy, they don't have brown spots and I don't have any pictures of the issue posted. I got brown spots once and I fixed it by adding calmag in the 1st 2 weeks of flower. It is a common issue when growing in coco.

[Crossy12]

thanks for your help,I will keep posting then and wait till Im blessed with a plus sign.
Like I said new to computers so all that pasting and dragging stuff I have not a clue,pics will come eventually.

[Crossy12]

I don't know we're I seen the pics of the brown spots then,a couple of my ladies are showing patches of like rust coloured patches at the mo,I'm start of week 4 now flower ?.
Used calmag once a week from start,only affected area is were fan stayed at one position,curling on tips.
My temp is just under 80 and my outtake is good,my air in is also good ??.
Just started with the green sensation aswell,see what occurs now.:thumbsup:

[Crossy12]

4days into useing green sensation,looking pretty good,getting sticky and smelly niccceee :thumbsup:
Into 5week now,I was wandering should I use pk13/14 also ?? Or I don't I need it because of green sensation ?.

[PhatJay]

I was wandering should I use pk13/14 also ?? Or I don't I need it because of green sensation ?.

I would stick with the Plagron feeding scheduleand not add PK.


into my second week of flower now and I feed them first thing and about 4 hours befor lights out,usually about a litre an half each,I'm in 10 litre pots.

I just noticed that you are feeding twice a day. This is too much, your plants were probably drowning. Don't take this the wrong way, but you need to do some more reading/research so you don't make mistakes like this.

[Crossy12]

Thanks for your reply,I don't take things the wrong way,it's all about learning as far as I'm concerned.
I was feeding twice a day because they needed it,firsty ladies,I'm on 8 till 8 time that is,litre and half at 9 by 4-5 o'clock they need feeding again.

[Crossy12]

Yes I think your right about sticking to the plagron schedule,my friend uses a and b with accelerater and pk14 but not green sensation just wandered :thumbsup:

[Crossy12]

As you've probably guessed I'm trying to stack my posts up lol,I wish I could get some pics up to show you these ladies,I will keep taking them and show you when I earn my 50 posts:mad:

[Crossy12]

Still got that rusting coming out on the leaves ?,we've had a bit of mad weather lately (cold)up and down really,and my fan problem ?.
Give them all a flush through with water and calmag today as there is a bit of slight burning on the tips of leaves,see if they pick up.
All in all I think I've done well for my first go at coco,time will tell,photos will come.

[Crossy12]

The ladies are drinking near enough 3 litres each over the 12 hours,I split it into two feeds because I thought 3 litres straight of was to much ?,didn't want to flood them.

[Crossy12]

Will try giving one the 3 litres see how she goes.
There will be a lot of run of I expect,do I leave it to drink that or throw it ?.

[PhatJay]

You can post pics now, you have a little + next to your name. It is 50 posts or 2 weeks membership.

Now... as regards feeding frequency. Feeding frequency is dependant on a range of factors like the ambient temperature, growing medium and pot size.

I feed every 2 days once my plants are into flower (I have also tried daily feeding) and from what I have read this is also too often. Other coco growers aim for a feeding every 3 days and if you are feeding more often than that they would say your pots are too small for the size of your plants. I break the rules and use small pots and feed more often, but it is not the way you are supposed to do it.

I think you were probably overwatering during the early weeks (coco is very good at preventing overwatering). Feeding in one go is fine, you should water your plants until you get about 10% run off and DO NOT LET THEM SIT IN THE RUN OFF. This is very important, if you let them sit in the run off it can cause root rot.

[Crossy12]

I'm in ten litre pots,ladies stand at about 4foot,
There is no way they would go 2 or 3 days watering,they drink whatever I give them,will try the ten percent run off and see how long it takes to drink.
Goin to try and post pics now thanks for info :thumbsup:

[Crossy12]

Tried to post pics no good,what's going on?,even when I try and create album nothing happens when I tap on upload photos it goes blue but nothing,it says on bottom of page I may post attachments ?,
Will try and do it on lap top later instead of this iPad 2.. :thumbsup: hopefully you will get to see ladies soon;)

[PhatJay]

Tried to post pics no good,what's going on?

I am not sure to be honest. Even if you do post some pics in your album, I havn't been able to open a pic on this site for a while (I can only see the thumbnail not open the full size pic). I thought it was just me but other people have posted that they are having the same issue. I nearly always use a free external image host, the only pics I have in my album are feeding schedules.

Use imgur or photobucket or imageshack or sommat else like that.

[Crossy12]

Ok will plod on to 50 posts then see what happens,have to get my daughter to help me not a clue.
Thanks for your time:thumbsup:

[PhatJay]

Ok will plod on to 50 posts then see what happens

50 posts is not going to make any difference.

1, google imgur (i cannot post a link as I think it is against forum rules)

2, go to youtube and search for "using imgur"

If you can use a forum, using imgur will be like falling off a log.

[Crossy12]

I'm going to try that imgur now thanks,why are things so difficult on this forum :mad:

[Crossy12]

imgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/2ItAs) finally, 2 weeks into flower.

[Crossy12]

Here's a couple of the ladies 2 weeks in,go and take some more for you to check out imgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/NIejH):thumbsup:

[Crossy12]

Imgur sure is simple thanks phatjay :smokin:
Here's a couple more of the ladies 4weeks in imgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/bKcaj),
The pics aren't that good on the iPad have to get some taken with the camera.
Very impressed with the green sensation plagron,you can't really see it in the pics but frostin and stickiness is rapid,these ladies are English cheese of course, smelling pungent allready.
Not bad for first coco ??, had the ph prob at beginning which put them back a bit,now that's sorted they are thriving.
Coco and plagron so far so good.
Keep you updated :stoned:

[Crossy12]

These are the last pics with this iPad,will sort a camera get some proper shots.
Can you see the tipping and and rust coloured patching ?,it's only a couple of them,any ideas ? imgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/qGPLQ) :thumbsup:

[PhatJay]

She is lookin good for 4 weeks in. :thumbsup:

[PhatJay]

Can you see the tipping and and rust coloured patching ?,it's only a couple of them,any ideas ?

Burnt tips are nutrient burn from slightly overfeeding. Red stalks are excess phosphorous from overfeeding. I can't really see the rust colored patching in the pics.

[Crossy12]

Yeah I think they might be over fed a bit,going to give them a flush tomorrow,you can just see the tipping on this shotimgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/KeMyL).
Pretty impressed with my first effort so far thanks,I'm impressed with the plagron range also,the green sensation is expensive but looking worth it so far.
You can also see the thc on the leaves,a week of useing green sensation and it's thriving,can't wait for the end result.
:smokin:

[Crossy12]

http://imgur.com/oe1QNHere's one with the burn on the tips and edges,also the curling up,deffo doing that flush throu tomorrow.
Get some more done with camera tomorrow happy smokin :thumbsup:

[mackshane]

I will try an get some pics up but I'm having probs with finding how to send them in a message on this iPad 2 ????? Any ideas,once I get the pics up you can let me know how I'm doing,chat soon peace
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[Crossy12]

Had the same probs with posting on the iPad , try imgur it's on my link very simple to use.
Like to see your pics whatever they are.
Happy days smokin in the sun.