LED grow NO.2, testing the Pro-Grow 260 and Rhino Seeds.

[silent leprechaun]

Hey guys and gals

So here we go again ! Grow number 2 with the Pro-Grow 260 LED light and some interesting strains I bought from the Rhino seed company; Big Bang 2, Chronic and Blue Cheese :) Yummy ! My little babies are less than 1 week old now but coming along fine. Most of my seeds were bought at feminisedseeds.co.uk

So I have decided on growing just 4 plants this time to minimise cramping the tent, maximising light dispersion and hopefully yield ! If you are wondering what will happen to the other 6 seeds in the photo above then I will say that they will be getting some sun this summer ;)

I will hopefully be blooming in week 3.5 or 4 as wish to keep the plants short, but not too short.

So here are some photos of them in peat cups under the Pro-grow 260 on just the blue spectrum for veg and 4 x 20w CFL.

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[lamen25]

Hey Silent Lep, what's your temp, and what CFL bulbs are you using? I'm glad to see you are using the LED's. What's your thought on the LED? Gives me something to look forward to. I'm a first time grower and I've got a post on this thread also using 2 UFO and 2 CFL's, but my plant is quite small for day 28. I thought I saw another post by you and your plants looked pretty good using the LED's. Good Job

[silent leprechaun]

I am using 4 x 20w 2700k. The LED is a Pro-Grow 260. I really like this LED light. I dont think I will ever use HPS or other hid systems.

I am thinking of upping the 2700k CFL in this grow but just during bloom. I was thinking of hooking up 6 x 85w, 2700k CFL during the bloom stage.

The 4 x 20w are keeping the tent at a nice 21-22 degrees or so. The 6 x 85w will increase the temps but I have my extractor always on. It wont be too bad on the plants. I think they will love it but I will need to water a little more often. But using LED and CFL means I water the 2 gallon buckets about once every 5 days or so... Watering isnt really an issue with LED & CFL.

You mentioned the size of your plant. All I can say is maybe your LED are poor quality or you are making a mistake in soil and feeding. The thing about growing weed is that there are many different things you could be going wrong on and this has an effect on the plants. for example I could have waited too long to repot and bound the roots... or the lights are perfect but the soil is very bad quality... there are so many variables. I would need all the info you could give me. Not just on nutes but even down to soil mixes, plant sizes, exact light types and research you did on them before buying, pot sizes, your set-up as in air intake/out-take, air movement, humidity, temperature, how often you water as so many over water, drainage, light heights and distance.

In my signature below you can follow my first grow and compare your week 4 to my week 4. But remember that my lights are different to yours.

Take care

[lamen25]

Great Info Silent Leprechaun, Being a newbie, I'm pretty sure I've made all the mistakes on this first grow. But here we go with what I did.
Built 4x4x6 Grow Room in my basement, using sheet rock walls with white enamel paint. It was what I had at the time and I read you should use flat. I'm using 2 curtains that block out light for my doors with velcro for opening/closing. The basement floor is concrete. Mixed Miracle Grow Potting soil and Miracle Grow Vermiculite 60/40 for the soil. Purchased feminized White Widow seeds online from The Altitude. My light is a 100 watt Lighthouse UFO LED from Amazon, and after germinating the seeds for a few days by soaking in water first, until it sank to the bottom, and placed in paper towels ,the root emerged. Planted in 3" Square Peat Pots with soil mixture above. After day 3 in peat pot, under the LED Light only with timer using the 18/6 schedule, and no heater, no fan, no humidity gauge, the first 2 leaves appeared, and that's the start of Vegetation Day 1 - 1.5". Also, on Day 1, I planted the peat pot into a 5 gallon approx. grow container with the same soil mixture above. Day 2-3" watered. Day 3- 3.75" watered. Day 6 - 4" watered, and added 42 watt CFL 2700K (150 watt equivalent). I can't remember exactly, but somewhere around this time I noticed these little gnats, and they hung around until recently. Day 9 - 4" Watered, added heater, Temp 82 F. Day 10 added ProsourceWorldwide Illuminator 90 watt UFO LED also. Noticed 2nd set of new leaves. Day 11 - 5" watered. Day 12 - 5" watered, 2nd set of leaves 1". Day 14 - Watered, 3rd and 4th sets of leaf growth. Day 16, increased temp to 85 F. Why?, Because of the video that I watched about using the Prosource Illuminator LED. ProSource Worldwide Guide for LED Grow Lights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xJIjJ5nZUZw), Also it was a little humid but I didn't have a measuring gauge. Day 17 4" watered Temp 80, because that 85 was kinda hard to maintain, and humidity. Day 20 added 6" desk Fan Walmart, to the top left back corner of the grow room. Immediately noticed the even warmth within the grow room and 85 was easier to maintain. Day 22 - (And the Hits just keep on coming) - After reading about LST and Topping, Yes I did. Topped between the 4th and 5th node. 5" tall. Day 25 - You are gonna love this. Well I've read that nutes are normally administered by the 3rd week roughly, so I did. Mixed 1/2 tsp of Miracle Grow (Don't forget Newbie Here) All Purpose Plant Food 24-8-16. Watered 1 Liter. Day 29 fed up with my little flying neighbors, so I transplanted into a different potting soil mix called Everygreen Potting Soil which looks like small chunks of composted bark, but drains well. Also did some reading about those gnats, and used a homemade mixture of Hydrogen Peroxide 1 part and 4 parts water. Supposedly H2O2 and Water kills gnats and promotes root growth. Watered on Day 29 Today is Day 32. No watering, but I (here we go again), did some reading whereby you can use a nail by pushing it into the soil to aerate the roots. I have another seedling planted in this Evergreen soil mixture in a 1 gallon grow container without the 3" Peat Cup. Seems like this cup holds moisture and I want to see how well this new seedling grows without the cup.

For about the first 12 days, my LED lights were approx 15 to 20 " above the plants. Now 10" and the 2 CFL's are about 3" above the plant. Well that's about all I can think of. When I look back at my notes, at what I did to this plant, I should be arrested. LOL Simply put, somebody's been a little impatient. Don't think I will ever have anymore than 2 plants growing period. As far as CO2, (here we go again, LOL) from reading it has been stated that if you have a small closed grow, simply opening the entrance will give it enough CO2. I don't have any idea if that's true, but I'm giving it a try. Here are a couple pics, the first one is after I topped, and the second one is the latest pic. Ok Leprechaun, sprinkle some gold dust on me. My thought now is to learn how not to water so much. Don't know if this plant will continue to produce, but that's ok. I have learned how to overdue everything, so maybe this next grow I won't. Future plans are to purchase a humidity gauge, and a Temp gauge. Right now I'm using the Temperature gauge on the heater. It's automatic, but I know the temp in the basement outside the Grow room is cool, even in the daytime when it's 80 degrees F outside. Thank you again Leprechaun. Also, forgot to mention Day 27 added replaced the 40 watt 150 watt equivalent, with 2 23 watts 5000K CFL's. 284123
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[lamen25]

Also I've been reading about inline charcoal etc., but haven't bought anything yet.

[lamen25]

BTW Leprechaun, sorry for taking up so much space on your thread.

[silent leprechaun]

no problem, normally when someone starts a grow journal you wouldnt post your own grow in it, its a little frowned upon here. Just some advice for the future ;)

You should probably start a grow journal yourself. It helps not only others but also yourself as you can go back and view previous grows you did.

This should prevent you from making similar mistake in different grows and also lets others give you advise on things you could do better.

Good luck with it

[lamen25]

Thanks Silent Leprechaun, I thought it didn't look right when i posted my info. I said to myself, this is Silent Leprechaun's space. I'm confused on something. When I click on LED Logger, I'm taken to your Grow Journal page. Is this the typical way persons create Journal's, or by simply creating a Thread here in Indoor Growing kinda like I did about 10 threads down from yours?
This is where I should have posted this info.

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/201773-first-time-grower-using-2-led-ufos-2-cfl.html

[silent leprechaun]

I create a grow journal on cannabis.com and I also created a free wordpress blog page.

So technically I am posting it twice. Its not typical. Setting up your own blog page is kinda like having your own website in a way.

You have a lot of info in your post here. You should try breaking long entries it into paragraphs as it's easier to read that way.

You will get more responses if people can read it easily. Just a tip ;)

Take care.

[lamen25]

Question? Is there anyway maybe a Admin or you can delete the posts that I've made with pics etc. I will post it on my thread using the tips you have given me. I hope it can be deleted.

[silent leprechaun]

dont worry about it... no big deal.

[lamen25]

Hey Silent Leprechaun,

I need your input. I'm returning the Illuminator-90W-UFO-LED-Grow-Lights and I'm looking at the Pro-Grow 260 as well. But I've found another light that interest me, but I don't know if it compares to the Pro-Gro.

The other choice is the Solar Flare 200 watt Full Cycle

My main concern is to simply complete a grow with 30 days Veg, and 8 to 10 weeks flowering time. I haven't been able to do that with what I have, and the Pro-Source 180 watt is around 600 bucks. I know the Pro-Grow competes with the 180 watt ProSource light from your posts, but I'm wondering about this Solar Flare. I've seen some posts about it, but not as many as the Pro-Grow.


There is one other light, but I don't think it compares to the Pro-Grow and that's the Lighthouse 240 watt.

What do you think?

BTW, over the last couple of days, I've placed my plant outside, and with 85 - 90 degree temps for about 6 hours each day, it has really stretched. That really told me that I need something stronger than what i have. Nothing compares to Sunlight. LOL

[PhatJay]

Hiya Silent Leprechaun. I have looked at your grows before and I have always had one burning question that I never got round to asking. Why do you supplement your LED light with small CFL's. Is it for a little heat? to get your temps in range?

[silent leprechaun]

Yep PhatJay

That's exactly why I use the CFL, for heat. Although I am thinking of adding 4 x 85w 2700k CFL to the current grow I have, but only during bloom.

I think they will give a huge boost to the plants. My temps at the moment in the tent are just perfect at 22-23 degrees Celsius.

My extractor runs 24/7 dragging air through my Can9000 carbon filter. It's a great filter and my extractor is set on a very low speed setting.

@lamen

I can only advise you on the light that I use myself. I have never used those other lights and so can't make a recommendation.

I can only advise you through my own experience.

[lamen25]

Thanks Silent Leprechaun, That was an unfair question. haha I changed my mind and I'm sticking with the 90 watt Illuminator from ProSource and the Light house 100 watt UFO. Gonna order a couple of 200 watt Daylight bulbs hopefully to assist. Getting ready to post some pics of latest growth.

[silent leprechaun]

I wouldnt go for the 'daylight' CFL.

The UFO will be good enough for the veg stage, get the 'warm white' (2700k) CFL instead. That's what I would do anyway.

The 100w of 2700k will also help a little in the veg stage but will be a better work horse during the bloom stage. Better to invest in the bloom.

that's just my 2 cents on that.

[silent leprechaun]

LED Grow Log under the Pro-Grow 260, 2xBlueCheese, 1xBigBang,1xChronic! Yummy !

Hey guys and gals.

So thing are coming along just fine in the grow log. The 4 plants I will be keeping indoors with me are all looking fine. One is a little behind the others and seemed to have been damaged, but she will be fine.

The plants are in their second pots with the third pot (a bucket) coming as soon as I start to see some roots coming out the end of the pots.

I have another 11 bag seeds to go out in the outdoors and you can see 3 large seedlings and 8 or 9 smaller seedlings. They all came out of a bag of weed a friend bought.

I must say that the seeds are in great shape and the genetics seem to be good and strong. The previous grower must have bought them in a good shop.

Does anyone know if I can buy male pollen anywhere ? Would be interesting to know. I think I saved some from last year. Would be nice if I intend to do an outdoor grow, although the best are the feminised seeds. They give almost no trouble.

So here are my babies now. I'm sure you will see a big difference in the 4 indoor plants since my last post.

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[lamen25]

WOW Silent Leprechaun, These look great. What's the age of the 4 plants? Are you running CO2? And how old are the lil plants too? I'm just amazed as to how fast they grow when things are setup right. Nice plants

[silent leprechaun]

Yeah dude ! You are right ! these babies are looking amazing :)

I'm not running Co2, I just have good and constant ventilation.

The reason these babies are looking so hot is because of two major factors: hardware & genetics ! :)

The LED light is a real powerhouse ! It is perfect for my 90 x 90 cm space. Its a Pro-Grow 260. And it only uses 190w ! You can even switch between the veg and bloom light spectrum.
I leave only the veg lights on for the first week, then I hit the plants with all 190w until the last 2 weeks of bloom, then I use just the bloom spectrum.

The seeds are from a reputable company, Rhino Seeds. On their web page you will find lots of companies. I got most of my seeds from feminised seeds. They have a very nice range....

The plants are just 3 weeks old in the picture. When the genetics are fantastic and the lights you are on a winner from the starting line. But dont forget abot soil, ventilation, air movement and the list of secondary, but still important factors. a chain is only as strong as its weakest link ;)

Always be sure to get only the best seeds and invest in a good light ;)

[silent leprechaun]

LED Grow Log under the Pro-Grow 260, 2xBlueCheese, 1xBigBang,1xChronic from Rhino Seeds :) ! Yummy ! And all feminised !

So just a quick update on my grow. I just re-potted the plants into 2.5 gallon buckets as the roots were quite well developed in the smaller 2 litre (0.5 gallon) pots.

I sometimes worry in case I stunt the plants growth if the roots become too pot bound. But all is good and I'm sure the plants will start to take off soon.

I'll give the plants a week to get settled in their new homes and then the fun starts again with 12/12 on the horizon :) Can't wait !

One plant started to grow a little strange, the leaves were looking very jagged. I was told that my LED light might be causing this and sometimes seedlings freak out from time to time. However, the plants only grew 2 strange sets of leaves and now it is back on track again. This didn't stunt the plant much at all. It was just a random short term freak out.
So all is well again :) I thought I might have mixed a bad soil mix or something. I feel much better now that the plants are all happy and strong :)

So I started using a mild fertiliser lately to let the plants get used to what I will be feeding them with. I always use an organic fertiliser made of seaweed and tomato.
This fertiliser served me well in my last grow so I hope it will be just as good this time. I will be using less than I did last time because I had a magnesium lock out in 2 of the plants last time.

So here are some pictures from today, I think they are now about 4 weeks since breaking the soil. I'll give them just 1 more week of veg and then the fun starts on 12/12 :)

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[lamen25]

Nice looking plants Silent Leprechaun, man, for 4 weeks you really get them to stretch out. I've never heard of seaweed and tomato. Immediately googled and found Neptune's Harvest Organic Fish and Seaweed Blend Fertilizer, 2-3-1. on amazon, but i also found something else called, Garden-Ville Sea Tea and Garrett Juice Folliar Plant Food , all on amazon. I'm looking for some kind of organic fertz. Yesterday I was looking at Jack's Classic Duo, but now you've got me interested in Seaweed. From looking at your pics, i think I'm getting close to Flowering. Great post dude.

[silent leprechaun]

Here you go dude.

The pictures below contain names, addresses and phone numbers. You can order online. I think they are just about the only company in Ireland that sell the stuff and it's a really good price.
I got a friend to buy it for me on a credit card. I wouldn't even have ferts come to my door. Always be careful and stay off the radar ;)
The stuff lasts forever ! I also use Bat guano and Worm Castings.

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[Esteban1]

Sweet:

you appear to be right on track! Keep up the good work

Sic Semper Tyrannus


:rasta:

[lamen25]

Thanks for the pics Silent Leprechaun of the items. I purchased Jack Classic's All Purpose and Bloom Booster. By the time I start flowering, I'm thinking about the Neptune's Fish and Seaweed Fertlizer, or Garden-Ville Sea Tea. I'm really impressed with your Growth. Man, that's crazy how fast your girls grow. Great Job Silent Leprechaun.

[lamen25]

Hey Silent Leprechaun

How good is the Pro-Grow 180? I was looking at the 260 and ran across it. I've got a small grow so hmmm, but I wonder how much light will i lose from not going with the Pro Grow 260. My main goal is to grow a couple of plants within the 12 weeks period. 4 Veg, and 8 Flowering, but I'm not sure if the lights I have will do that. I can send one of my lights back, and get refunded and purchase either 260 or 180. But, I think I will always have that question in the back of my mind if I purchase the 180. Should I have gone with the 260? haha
After seeing your post, that really does it for me with the 260, but I was just curious if the 180 would handle small grows in a timely manner.

I've ruled out the Solar Flare because of 2 year warranty.

Also, What soil medium is inside your Peat Cups at the top of the thread?

[silent leprechaun]

The Pro-Grow 260 is perfect for my 90cm x 90cm floor space.

Be careful that you don't overcrowd your grow room. I made that mistake in my first grow and the plants spent most of their energy trying to grow over each other to get the light.

If your floor area is the same as mine don't grow more than 4 plants in there. You could grow 9 plants in my space in a SOG grow but I'm guessing you aren't doing that.

You want your plants to get plenty of light and you want the light to penetrate the canopy. You also want to plants to relax and produce buds and not compete too much with each other.

In the end you will have 4 plants happily producing bud and not leaf and stem. Think of all the energy, time and nutes being lost there !

I wouldn't get the Pro-Grow 180 if you intend to grow 8 plants under it. For 8 plants you will need the Pro-Gro 400. my friend just bought one of them for her large 1.2 x 1.2m tent.

There Pro-Grow 400 are beasts :)

Just tell me your floor area and I can give you an estimate of how many plants you can grow comfortably in there. I can then give you an idea of the size of light you will need.

I only used good quality potting soil in the peat pots. Never use anything with added nutes when growing seedlings. Keep the soil as plain as possible so you don't burn/stress them.

Take Care

S.L.

[silent leprechaun]

Typo above, I meant to say : "The Pro-Grow 400 are beasts".

[lamen25]

My grow room size is 4ft x 4ft x 6ft. But I only plan to grow no more than 4 plants in there at a time. MAX. To be honest, if I can get 2 girls to grow nicely and on schedule, then I would be satisfied with that.

From my conversations with you and stezzyd, I have learned about good soil and ventilation. And yes, you have mentioned that you can have the right light, but if you don't have the right soil medium, it won't grow like it can or should.

I'm satisified with your answer about the 260. That's the way I'm going. The only problem I will have will be waiting on the refund from the initial light to be returned, and thus then purchasing the 260. So I will be using the 1 100 watt UFO and 2 CFL's and continuing vegging until the 260 comes in. Could be another month of vegging. wow, this first grow hasn't been bad. Just learning a lot from mistakes and correcting mistakes during a grow can add time from what I've noticed. But in the end, let's hope it's all worth it.

Thanks Silent Leprechaun.

260 it is, and can't wait.

[silent leprechaun]

glad I was some help. You won't be sorry with the Pro-Grow 260. It only uses 190w and the veg and bloom spectrum are switched.

I use the veg spectrum (white/blue) LED for the first week so the seedlings don't get stressed. Strangely this LED looks very much like daylight when switched in the veg mode.

After a week I blast the plants with the full 190w, both spectrum on ! In the last 2 weeks of bloom its a good idea to use just the red spectrum. I keep the CFLs running all the time.

So I switched my lights to 12/12 2 days ago and I can already see that they are all female, well, they were feminised seeds so no surprise there :)

Here are a few pics, maybe you might see those tiny pistils !! :) They are tiny right now though... You won't see them I think.

They are exactly 35 days old by now so bang on 5 weeks. They are all around a foot tall by now and about a foot wide with plenty of nodes. Lots of nodes make a nice bushy plant.

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[EasyToRemember]

That first pic is great. Kinda like those pictures that are taken with electron microscopes.

Anyways, I'm another admirer of your Irish toil and trouble via LED. I picked up the Hydro Grow 21x pro- so far so good. Very cool technology.

Cheers!

[silent leprechaun]

Not sure where you see a photo taken with an electron microscope ? I'm pretty sure I don't have one of them lying around :)

I do have a 400x USB microscope. I take pictures of the quality of the weed my friends get to see if it is contaminated with dangerous material such as silicon or glass.

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Thanks for your interest in my LED grow logs. I'm glad they are of some use to you.

keep us posted with your grow and be sure to turn off GEO-Tagging if you use a smart phone. Some people got busted this way.

I think it is a shame when someone gets busted for growing a bit of weed for themselves. The good far outweighs the bad done to society to grow your own, for yourself, quietly.

Your light looks great, how is it cooled ? Does it have a few computer fans on the back of it or does it use a heat sink ? Heat sink means that the light runs silent but I think shortens its life.

Anyway, take care and good luck on your grow. Looking forward to seeing some nice pics ;)

S.L.

[EasyToRemember]

Just LOOKS like one of those pictures- like an alien microscopic world. Those legit magnified shots are very cool, too.

Boourns Geotagging! That sucks. Good advice.

It's got a fan and a heatsink (Copper too oo-la-la). They are more expensive than the others for the most part, but I just couldn't ignore the lense tech. Too cool. Yours does have that

spectrum switch that is oh-so tantalizing. Gonna have to get a similar sized one at some point

[silent leprechaun]

So the little ladies are now 44 days old and are looking great. No issues with any plants.

The plants have all shown their sex now and bloom has officially begun !!

I haven't really started using the seaweed and tomato fertiliser yet, nor the bat guano. I gave them a very dilute mix over the past couple of weeks.

I will begin to make the fert mix stronger soon as bloom has just started. The Pro-Grow LED hasn't left me down so far and give amazing results... Seeing is believing here...

So for 44 days I think they are looking super healthy... 2 of the plants seem to be more indica (front) and the 2 plants behind are a little taller. They have all received the same light.

What do you think of them so far ? They are 1 x Chronic, 1 x Big Bang and 2 x Blue Cheese from the Rhino Seed Company. I think they will be big producers... They are strong growers !!

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[silent leprechaun]

So how is the light coming along Lamen ?

Did you buy the Pro-Grow 260 ?

[silent leprechaun]

So here we are at day 52... patience really is a big thing when it comes to growing weed :)

The plants get a watering and a mild feeding about every 5 or 6 days. The LED light runs cool so the heat and humidity in the tent is almost the same as outside.

The plants about 1.5 feet tall now and each has an average of 15 nodes. I try to maximise the number of nodes by keeping the light as close as possible.

This keeps the plants short so the light can penetrate the canopy. and also, more nodes = more bud sites ;)

The plants have shown their female bits to me and I'm glad to say that it is a major 'lez-fest' in my grow tent... It's like a Tegan and Sarah concert ! :)

Anyway, hope you enjoy the pictures. I also took a few of my LED light, the Pro-Grow 260. There are 3 possible settings, veg (White), bloom (RED) and both on together.

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[lamen25]

Looking Good Mr. Leprechaun, Looking real good. Your plants are so green and vibrant. Man, I love that light. Hate it i can't get it right now. I'm encouraged by your posts, because you have really helped me a lot. Question, I've noticed when fan leaves touch my CFL, there is a slight burn on the leaf. When you say keeping the lights as close as possible, do you ever run into that problem of a small leaf burn due to the CFL's? Looks like your plants are touching the CFL's. Just trying to figure out how close I can get with my CFL's and LED as well.

[silent leprechaun]

I'm glad that my grow journals were of some help to you.

The plants are very strong growers. I can almost see the pistils forming :) Yummy !!!

Yeah, I have had quite a few CFL burns in the last grow and I have had one CFL burn in this grow.

I normally keep the bulbs 1.5 inches from the plants and I try not to keep the bulbs directly above the plants. This will prevent them growing into the bulb.

Be careful with the LED light too. If they are too close you can bleach the leaves and even the buds. But try to find a good distance. I would never leave my plants within 8 inches of the LED.

Hope this helps.

I think we will be very close on our harvests :) My plants are in week 2 of bloom. It will be a great time :)

Just planted my 10 x Mataro Blue Autoflower feminised outdoors today :) Got them from the Rhino Seed Company.

Averages 70 grams per plant and will be ready to harvest in around 10 weeks ;) nice !!

[silent leprechaun]

So here is a quick update at day 55. (12 days of Bloom)

Bloom is certainly here and my god these plants are blooming fast... They are loving my LED light !

They are powerful strains too. I think a good combination of light intensity and genetics do the trick ! The rest I can take care of :)

So I think the plants are looking great. As you can see I did a little bit of popcorn trimming at the bases of the plants. I think this is important as not only does it help in allowing the plant to focus more energy in producing buds in the higher areas of the plant, it also allows more light to penetrate through the canopy. If I hadn't trimmed the lower, weaker branches the lower leaves would soon wither due to lack of light. Now the tent is illuminated all the way down to the pots.

The plants did a little bit of stretching after trimming the bottom branches I think. Or perhaps I raised the light a little too much. I think it has stopped now. I could use some LSTing but I want to see if I can grow all 4 without much training. It's hard to train 4 plants in a 90cm x 90cm space. (3' x 3').

As bloom has started I added a heaped table spoon of bat guano to the last feeding. I didn't add the seaweed and tomato fertiliser for that feeding. I decided to let the plants have a taste of the bat guano on its own. I won't feed as often or give them as much as my last grow as I experienced a magnesium lock out towards the end of the last grow. I think my soil mixture is hot enough so I think the plants will thank me for it.

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[silent leprechaun]

Hey all,

So I decided to go for some low stress training today. It only took 10 minutes but it saved me over 1 foot of head space for the plants and evened out the canopy.
I felt that one or two of the plants were growing a little stronger than the others and were hogging the LED light just a little too much for the others to catch up in height.

The canopy is in good order now and I'll give the plants a couple of days to settle in before I make any more changes. The leaves and branches all need to rearrange themselves towards the light before I get a good idea of the coverage.

I noticed that the inner branches of the plants, mid way up, are all very very short bud sites. The lower branches did make a spurt to reach the canopy alright. Hmm, I think the position the plants are in right now, 90 degrees, will expose those inner branches and promote more growth. I like to see these branches stretch a little as they are good weed producing sites.

I took a few pictures of my simple method of LSTing. It's nothing new to everyone here but maybe someone might be curious.

The tools I use are, small cables ties, fishing line, a Swiss Army Knife and an electrical snips.
The ties are used about 2/3 of the way up the plant. You can usually tell where the plants will bend without breaking or allowing the node to collapse.
The Swiss army knife is used to tidy the tail off the cable tie and the snips is used to mark the cable ties by squeezing the groves so it cannot close too far and strangle the plant !
Then I just tie the fishing line to the cable tie and pull the plant down carefully to make the top horizontal. I attach the other side of the fishing line to the handle of the bucket. And thats's it.
After this is done it is time to position the plants in the tent again in such a way as to maximise the light on each plant. As I have 4 plants I turn them in a square.
Each plants tops are now over the neighbouring plants bucket, etc etc, etc...
Now the plants will begin to develop more 'tops' so to speak, and should in the end produce more of the good stuff.
I wanted to see if I could grow in my tent without training but it didn't work out. I would eventually have to do it so sooner is better than later as the nodes will become more woody soon.

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[LetsSeeYa]

Hey there SL, nice looking grow ya have rocking in here my friend. I cant use my LED's here in this small apartment, sucks. But im enjoying your grow for sure, it wont be long and them big buds will start to fill up that space.

Also, you have given some good info in your thread too, Rep+:thumbsup:


LSY

[silent leprechaun]

You have some great logs there yourself LetsSee !

Interesting re-veg stuff. Never tried that... i would think I would get more bud from a fresh grow. but interesting nonetheless !

Take care

[silent leprechaun]

So I have decided to up my game a little in the tent.

I will be keeping the Pro-Grow 260 of course but instead of the 80w of 2700k CFL I will be using 65w x 4 :) So that will be 190w of LED and 260w of CFL.

I will be keeping the 4 x 20w CFL until the plants become large enough to warrant the 4 x 65w. To increase the intensity of the CFL I bought 4 x stainless steel mixing bowl. (21cm D x 10cm H)

I'll drill 20mm holes in the bottoms of the bowls so I can attach them to the light battons.

I will hang the 4 x 65w out of the top of the tent directly over each of my 4 plants. This will focus more light on each plant and keep the nodes good and short.

I'm hoping this addition will create a much higher yield in the end. I think I will have a great grow tent when they are installed with plenty of light.

Has anyone here mixed LED and CFL in such wattages ? Would love to hear about it. I think 190w LED and 260w CFL are plenty for a 3 x 3 tent.

[silent leprechaun]

Re: LED Grow Log under the Pro-Grow 260, 2xBlueCheese, 1xBigBang,1xChronic! Yummy !

Hey All !

So it's time for another update on my LED + CFL grow ! And things are looking fine fine fine !!!
Things are getting rather exciting now at the 67 days old marker and 24 days of official bloom. I could see some tiny hairs 33 days ago but it took the ladies a week or so to really kick off into bloom. I wait until I can clearly see the pistils in a few areas on the plants as their hormones are changing slowly, so when the blooming hormones are in full effect I call it bloom time.

My 4 x 65w, 2700k CFLs arrived today and the tent is so much brighter. The lamps themselves are surprisingly very large as you can see by the pictures. They are about 25cm long and 13cm wide. When I unzip my tent it's like opening up a pirates treasure chest now :) A golden glow shines out through the zips ! I installed them today and they will be running for another 6 - 8 weeks. I'm not sure if I want them running for too many weeks as 450w might be expensive over time. I don't want to raise any eye brows if you know what I mean. Luckily they are only on 12 hours per day. I think they are going to make a massive difference to the yield in the end. The tent is illuminated from top to bottom so the plants will be soaking it all up. I have increased the speed of my extractor fan as I think there will be a lot more heat in the tent now. It will be important to find the correct extractor speed to keep the temperature at a comfortable constant.

I hope you like the pictures. I think the bud growth will be much stronger with the new CFLs. Those CFLs and my Pro-Grow 260 will blow these plants away ! I can't wait to see the yield off these plants. I wonder would the light I am producing from 450w give better results than 450w of HPS ? Any idea on this guys and gals ? Would love to hear your opinions...

Take Care

S.L.

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[how high eire]

looking good lad. they are the same type cfl's as i've been using. questions for you, what size fan/carbon filter are you using. i'm starting to have a problem with odour's.

[silent leprechaun]

I use the Can9000 carbon filter.

There are a few places to buy them in Ireland. I went to a regular horticultural online shop for mine.
Shop around and see what sort of a price you can get. I prefer to do my best to order within Ireland so customs don't have a chance to check it.
I think I paid about â?¬70 - 80 for the filter. Money well spent ! I tried those odorsock types too but they didn't work too well for me. Not for long anyway.
Get an extractor fan speed controller on eBay too so you can adjust the speed of the air being sucked through your filter. Carbon filters like air that is drawn slowly through it.
Be sure you invest in a good filter... Stealth growing depends on it... The scent of weed can be detected by the most noobish of noses... Be careful !

If you go through my first grow you will see a whole section on carbon filters. I think I even gave a link to it.
If you have any more questions let me know.

[silent leprechaun]

Hey guy and gals.

We are at day 31 of bloom, my last grow under my LED took 13 - 14 weeks of bloom to finish so there is still 2.5 monthts to go !

2.5 months of bloom, bloom and more bloom !

They are horny as hell and producing lots and lots of beautiful lady bits hoping that their 'very fertile' prince would come into the tent and service them all heh heh !! :)

I don't have it in me to tell them that there won't be any males of their species around just in case they hermie on me ! I did wipe a little pollen on some areas of the lower buds.

I'm very surprised with the buds right now, they are filling out very, very quickly. There is a marked difference in the size since the previous week.

In comparison to the same time in my last grow the buds are much bigger and they are also denser. I think the 260w of CFL have made a difference.

I have decided to feed the plants a little less than the last grow. I think I had a magnesium deficiency due to over fertilization. I use the seaweed and tomato fert and bat guano.

The last feed 3 days ago was 4 heaped tea spoons of bat guano in 10 litres of water. I will be keeping a close eye on the plants so to figure out the best feeding cycles and amounts.

I harvested a very large amount of weed last grow and I think I will be harvesting twice that this time round ! Bring on the 1GPW baby !!! Whoop Whoop :) (hopefully) !

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[Kalidank1]

Hey SL just wanted to say that they are looking beautifully I had a quick question are you using any co2 for your grow or no and also people tell me that led is not good for flower reproduction obviously you are proving that to be false. I grow cfl all the way but am considering to get an led setup where did u buy yours

[silent leprechaun]

Hey Kali

I only started using CO2 yesterday, I was waiting for the parts to arrive. You can see my DIY CO2 and DIY reflectors for CFL in the DIY section.
The only other part I will need is a bubbler for the CO2. A bubbler creates an air lock so oxygen can't mix with the atmosphere in the Milk carton.
I'm using Turbo Yeast which is said to produce more CO2 than regular yeast at room temperature.
Even when I close the valve and shake the milk carton I can see the milk carton fill with CO2, I have to open the valve in seconds or the carton will explode.

On the subject of LED lighting, I use the Pro-Grow 260. It's a great light and you can check it out on hydroponics Hut dot com. It's really a great work horse.
It draws about 190w, even though it has the '260' in its name. I used this LED primarily in my first grow log (in my signature) with just 80w of CFL for heat purposes.
This grow I added 260w of 2700k CFL (4x65w) but only during bloom to give the plants that extra kick. And holy crap that's exactly what they got ! CFL and LED are a great combo...

My grow space is 90cm x 90cm and the Pro-Grow 260 is just right. It's advertised for 5 plants, I have 4 in my tent. The guy who makes these advertises realistically, which is more than I can say for most of the other LED manufacturers... They offer free postage to Europe from the U.S. and I think a 3 year warranty ! I sometimes chat with the guy by email, a really nice fella and is always there to answer my questions... I don't think I would ever shop anywhere else. Check out the new X5 LED from them, it's a new model and I would kill for one of them !

When I move apartment sometime and I get a bigger tent I'll get one for sure. I'll keep the Pro-Grow 260 for vegging, I'm never gonna give that light up ;)

So glad you are enjoying the grow, stay tuned for more weekly updates. Let me know if you get in contact with Hydroponics Hut, ask for Benjamin and tell him the Irish LED Logger sent you ;)

Take Care buddy

S.L.

[silent leprechaun]

Hey,

So helped my friend get her grow room started. It's looking great and the little seedlings are just 1 week old by now.

Seriously guys, this Pro-Grow 400 is a demon ! I can almost hear the cells divide in the plants ! The tent is a Secret Jardin 4' x 4' x 7'. Extractors and fans are set up but a better carbon filter will be needed soon. It's an attic grow so fresh air was a bit of an issue but we decided, rather than drill holes in a rented house, we would just leave the hatch open and I brought some flexible duct over to the hatch to pull in fresh air from the house. We will see how things go and if they are looking like fresher air is necessary then hole will be drilled.

So there are 8 plants that will be vegged in about 3 - 4 weeks. In 5 weeks we will know what sex they are and the bad boys will be killed... but not before I get some pollen for my ladies

I'll take pollen from only the strongest males to keep the genes strong. I'm not looking for many seeds, just 20 or 30 for a possible outdoor next year.

So here is her new set-up:

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[Kalidank1]

How you doing SL well I like the set up great job. And I decided that because of the limit of my space I will be getting the pro grow 260. Really appreciate the help thanx. — kalidank

[silent leprechaun]

How you doing SL well I like the set up great job. And I decided that because of the limit of my space I will be getting the pro grow 260. Really appreciate the help thanx. — kalidank

Great to hear we have a brand new LED fan :) Well done, I certainly don't think you will regret buying it. Let the guy know at Hydroponics Hut that I sent you :) The Irish grow journal guy, he'll know who you are talking about. Maybe you might get a discount, he is a nice guy like that.

Be sure to start posting your grow... I have to see how you get on ! It was my recommendation after all ! :)

Take care

S.L.

[silent leprechaun]

How you doing SL well I like the set up great job. And I decided that because of the limit of my space I will be getting the pro grow 260. Really appreciate the help thanx. â?? kalidank

Great to hear we have a brand new LED fan :) Well done, I certainly don't think you will regret buying it. Let the guy know at Hydroponics Hut that I sent you :) The Irish grow journal guy, he'll know who you are talking about. Maybe you might get a discount, he is a nice guy like that.

Be sure to start posting your grow... I have to see how you get on ! It was my recommendation after all ! :)

Take care

S.L.

[Kalidank1]

No doubt SL seeing the results from your first and now second grow I noe I will not have any regrets with it. I will be getting it soon just have to collect more cash for it and some other supplies. I need like inline fan which I need 2 and other things

[LetsSeeYa]

You have some great logs there yourself LetsSee !

Interesting re-veg stuff. Never tried that... i would think I would get more bud from a fresh grow. but interesting nonetheless !

Take care

Well SL ya may be surprised with the re veg's and if you can get them outside they get huge. Had i not have gotten ripped off i would have got at least 3-4 more lbs. And if ya like a certain plant after taking a few buds, you can just take your harvest [buds] and leave the the leaf. Put your lights back on a veg cycle and ya have a mom for clones, very easy.

Hey did ya like that site i gave one the LED's, and dont be put off with the actual watts of a light. Some of those watts are being use for fans and such, i know your light and its a very nice one. I need to get rid of both of my LEDs just to small here in this apartment. Hell i only had a chance to grow one crop and didnt get a chance to dial em in, i had them to far away from my plants. But was pretty surprised with the grow as once i raised the plants up to the lights gave me some nice dank buds. So if ya know of anyone who wants them let me know. Man iv started as a mod at a very cool site called Cannabis Gardens dot ya know. You should come on in and get a LED grow on there, we are new but growing, lol. I need to get a grow cab so i can grow here, its just to small for my tent and thats why im selling them, maybe ebay or craigslist.

Nice grow man, i will be watching,


LSY

[silent leprechaun]

Hey all,

Day 39 of bloom :)

So hey all, things are going great in the tent, all is back to normal again. The plant issue I had has stopped after I gave it a semi-flushing. Just a little too much nutes I think.
I'm surprised that my fert is so strong as they have had only 4 feedings... I'll have to ease up on it. At least I know it can stretch further than I thought.

So the plants are all looking healthy with no more issues. It was only the one plant that had an issue.
The Plants are 2 x Blue Cheese, 1 x Big Bang 2 and 1 x Chronic. I got them from the Rhino Seed company and they are very nice growers... I'm going to have a great yield...
And also an interesting one as I have 3 strains ! I'm looking forward to trying the Blue Cheese, I have heard lots of good things about it..

So here are some pics so far, I turned off the LED so the 4 x 65w CFLs would give you all a better look at the trichs :) Pity its not possible to get a good zoom on... Maybe copy and paste.

These ladies sure are looking fine, fine, fine !!! The hemp fibre from these plants should be made into parking tickets... because they've got 'fine' written all over them :) MMM, MMM, MM !

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[Kalidank1]

They are looking beautifully SL great job. U said u got your seeds from rhino. I had a question if they deliver to the states or just the uk

[silent leprechaun]

Glad you are liking the grow :) I'm enjoying it for sure :)

Have a chat with the member 'Cannabis Seeds'. There is a whole section on the bottom of the main forum page for this member.

He/She will let you know the story on US seeds.

Take care

[cannabis-seeds]

They are looking beautifully SL great job. U said u got your seeds from rhino. I had a question if they deliver to the states or just the uk

Right now, we have two brands that we can ship to the US - Advanced Female Seeds & Feminised Seeds.

From this grow log, Big Bang 2 & Chronic are both Feminised Seeds' beans.
Big Bang 2 is one of our best sellers. In fact, we sold out of them about a month ago and just got a brand-new shipment in so they're extra fresh right now.

Here's a link to our Feminised Seeds page - Feminised Seeds (http://www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk/feminisedseeds.html)
Here's the same for Advanced Female Seeds - Advanced Female Seeds (http://www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk/advancedfemaleseeds.html)

Blue Cheese is Barney's Farm - we can't ship these to the US at this time.

[Derrail32]

Hey S.L. your grow looks great! I read through your whole grow log there was alot of good info! I didn't know smart phones can get ya busted until you stated it on this thread, thanks S.L. I've

been thinking about buying a smartphone. Anyway, I hope you yield a massive amount of bud!

[silent leprechaun]

Thanks Derrail :)

Things are going great in the grow. I can see growth speeding up.

I can already see a massive amount of buds !!

You can also check out my first grow. it's in my signature below. There is much more info in there as I was getting organised then.

[silent leprechaun]

Day 46 of bloom

Hey all,

So here is my official weekly update :) I hope some people are still interested. If you have any input I would be happy to hear it ! :)

So bud formation is really picking up pace... The buds are at least 4 - 5 times thicker than they were a week or two ago.

One plant seems to have been getting a raw deal when it come to the light. The three other plants grew much stronger. I think I will have to bloom even earlier in future to keep them shorter. It isn't the plants fault at all, it's the space and the light management, only 3' x 3'. But there are still some nice buds nonetheless.

One plant is giving me issues with leaf discolouration and some nasty brown spots on them. I gave the plant a semi-flushing last week and it seemed to help. But after a few days it came back again. I think it is an over nute issue as I fed them a couple of days ago with seaweed and tomato organic fert and 5 heaped spoons of bat guano in a soup.

Some of the buds are very big already. I hope you enjoy the pictures :)

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[Kalidank1]

That is looking great SL never dissapointed with your grow man that bud formation is crazy. Great job man

[silent leprechaun]

That is looking great SL never dissapointed with your grow man that bud formation is crazy. Great job man

Thanks Kalidank

Nice to see that people are interested in the grow. It's always good to get some feedback from fellow growers, good and bad...

I started using turbo yeast a few weeks ago. I think since then the areas where the 4 x 5mm tubing came down have shown great growth.

I think I will always use CO2 in future grows as it is so easy to set up. Of course the added 260w of 2700k CFL would also have had a great effect.

[cannabis-seeds]

we used turbo yeast in a non-cannabis project one year.

that stuff is crazy if it's the same thing.

[silent leprechaun]

we used turbo yeast in a non-cannabis project one year.

that stuff is crazy if it's the same thing.

Yep, this is the same stuff ! It's a great producer of CO2 ! Even at room temperature it releases much more than the regular yeast.

The areas where the 5mm tubing drop down from the tent ceiling have much bigger buds ! I really like the idea of Turbo Yeast, it will always be in my grows !

[cannabis-seeds]

so, what do you do with it? just put it in warm sugar water to activate & let it do its thing?

how often do you change it out? if I remember correctly, it's about 5X the price of regular yeast per packet.

[silent leprechaun]

I think I paid about $1.50 for each packet. The postage was about $2.50

I bought about 5 packs and each pack has about 8 hits, i read the hit quantity online, so I doubled it :)

So, I divide a pack into 4 equal bags, and then I add 8-10 big spoons of sugar to 1.5L of warm water. This is enough to create lots of CO2 !

I have a valve to release the CO2 in a slow fashion so when I give the 2L bottle a shake I can see the bottle's sides expand under the pressure...

It has had an amazing effect on my grow :) It is so easy to set up it's crazy not to use the simple system.

I will be changing the yeast every 5 days or less. So I can do a whole bloom with 5 packets or so... it's cheap as chips so why not invest in it !

But really, there is a lot of CO2 coming out of that simple 2L bottle... More than you can imagine ! :)

[cannabis-seeds]

It sounds like what you got was repackaged for your specific use.

What we bought was about $5 for a huge packet of turbo yeast that you dump all at once into a 5-gallon vat to make something entirely different with - drink rather than smoke - no cannabis involved.

Might work out to the same price per unit because I could see where you would only use a small bit at a time.

We also buy pressurized C02 for a kegerator - much more expensive. I think it costs us abut $25 for either 5 or 10 gallons - can't remember what the tank holds.

[silent leprechaun]

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[silent leprechaun]

Day 51 of bloom

So I have been having some small issues with the humidity here in Ireland.

Humidity is in the 80s and 90s ! 90% humidity makes it difficult to grow indoors in a tent. The humidity has created some bud rot !! not happy about it at all...

I took down 2 large buds from the Chronic plant... My god that plant is a complete animal at growing buds.. Unfortunately the large, thick buds were the perfect breeding ground...

So I took down about 70g wet so this will end up as about 20g dried... how bad... I stopped the bud rot from spreading much further I believe... damn stuff...

The weather conditions are just terrible here... it has rained all summer "without a break" ! Every single day, rain, rain and more rain...

My outdoor crop will suffer greatly too... The outdoor hasn't bloomed yet so they are still safe, but if this weather doesn't clear up for August and September I fear doom is upon me...

Check out the humidity levels in Ireland below ! I realise that the photo shows 0% rainfall for today... But seriously, even the farmers are in big trouble because of this wet weather...

There hasn't been a break in the rain for them. The cows are being taken in to be fed in mid July... This is unheard of...

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[Michael Oliver]

My (Net) Five are entering 12th week now. Recently added the CO2 and i believe it's making quite the difference, however mine were "stunted" early on by limiting Container size! Looks Good!

[EasyToRemember]

That's some crazy humidity; so glad it's so uncharacteristically not humid here in S. Ontario.

I assumed that it was gonna get close to 100% here, so I bought a little Eva-Dry dehumidifier. It's not like the classic dehumidifier design (think it's non-freon) and only raises the temp in

the tent about 5-10F. I know that you're trying to keep heat down, but it beats bud rot.

Or hopefully the balmy weather just pisses off

[silent leprechaun]

So all is well again in the tent. There are no more signs of the dreaded bud rot ! So all in all I lost only a few grams to the rot as I caught it early, always look for those brown bud leaves !

After all that happened I only cut out 3 buds. Two were side buds that developed well due to the LSTing I gave the plants, the third bud was a main cola on the Chronic plant :(

After cutting these 3 buds prematurely I got about 25 - 28 grams dry from them. I was also careful to remove any areas which contained signs of bud rot as it can be dangerous when inhaled.

So an ounce already and there is plenty left in the tent still growing.

To combat the the bud rot I simply left the circulating fan on 24/7 and also the extractor. I also didn't water the plants for a few days to help the larger buds to dry up a little.

I was away for the past 3 days as I was painting my sisters house. I came back an checked the buds for rot but thankfully they showed no signs of further destruction !

So take care all and thank for your concern Easy :)

S.L.

[silent leprechaun]

Day 61 of bloom

So here is another photo update of the progress so far.

As I mentioned, the bud rot has stopped in its tracks and I have started to feed the plants a little more than usual over the past few weeks.

It is clear to see by the pictures that there are bus sites all over the tent... Buds are everywhere ! And I still have maybe another 5 weeks left in bloom...

I say another 5 weeks as this is what I learned from my last grow. It seems that under LED the plants take much longer to bloom. I don't really mind though.

What I also learned from the last grow was the buds pack on more during the last 5 weeks. I think I can wait a little longer.

The buds I took from the Chronic plant were very, very nice. There were premature but they pack a good kick in them already... I enjoy the stone from them, its a functional high and rather happy. There is no couch lock. I understand the buds were premature and the trichomes were mostly clear so this adds up to me.

Anyway, I have started to use a lot more of the bat guano and seaweed and tomato fertiliser. The Chronic is a real bud stacker and also the Big Bang. I found the Blue Cheese don't produce as much as the others but there is still a lot of good bud on it and it smells fantastic ! I can't wait to try the Blue Cheese out ! Mmmmm !
I got the seeds from the Rhino Seed company and I definitely think I will be growing a lot more of the Chronic in the future ! It is a big yielder !

So thanks for tuning in and I hope you enjoy the pictures !

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[PhatJay]

Those look rubbish, you should stick to potatoes. ;)

Kidding of course.... :stoned: Looking nice, bet you can't wait to get them ladies chopped down.

[silent leprechaun]

Yep, I'd say the axe will be coming out in about a week or so.

I have already taken about 2 ounces in lower buds. Some of the branches were bending over and almost touching the ground so they got the chop.

Nearly on day 65 of bloom so the ladies will be finished very soon. Maybe another 3 weeks and then I start a new grow. I was thinking of going more Indica next grow.

AK48 sound like a good plan. Someone was advising me on auto strains or the bushier Indicas. I want a fast finishing and relatively short plant for my tent.

Short is the way to go I think.

Thanks for dropping by.

S.L.

[PhatJay]

Short is the way to go I think.

Thats my experience. But it can be hard to convince people that growing less, is more.

[silent leprechaun]

Day 73 of bloom

So hey guys and gals... The time is finally here...

Well, the time has been here quite a while as I have been taking buds from the plants for a while. I took over 120 grams dry so far, at least 4 ounces if not more.

So today I harvested the last 2 Blue Cheese and the Chronic. I gave some smoke to my friends to try out and they were super impressed ! I must say this smoke turned out really great.

I still have the Big Bang plant blooming in the tent. It is a big producer just like the Chronic. One of the Blue Cheese turned out to be quite weak even though it got plenty of light.

The second Blue Cheese turned out very well and gave a very nice main cola. If you remember I had issues with bud rot for a week or so which I fixed quickly.

2 of the plants had their main colas cut down because of this. I think from what is left I will get the 1gpw even though the Blue Cheese didn't perform as well as the Chronic and Big Bang.

I must say that the Chronic and Big Bang 2 are definitely worth checking out. The Blue Cheese has a lovely blueberry hint to it and is a very nice smoke too. Just a lower yield.

So here are some pictures of my harvest today, I still have on more large plant to harvest and I took at least 4 ounces so far. It will be interesting to see how this harvest will look dry.

I'm waiting on more seeds so I'll leave the Big Bang 2 plant in the tent until they arrive. The next seeds I will be using are from the Rhino Seed company just like the current seeds.

I will be trying 4 autoflowering plants, AK47 auto feminised and Blue Treacle automatic feminised. I have hear some great things about the Blue Treacle.

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[EasyToRemember]

So damn pretty.

Mazel tov, bro

[painretreat]

:thumbsup:Can't rep you..so dropping in to say, again..A Very Nice Grow Log!:jointsmile: pr

[Esteban1]

Would like to add 2 ur rep as well but unable, so as "Easy" sez, Mazel Tov! Very sweet indeed

Sic Semper Tyrannus

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[isomo]

so in your case do you recommend both LED and CFL?
im currently running a 300 Watt LED seems like my plants are growing slow
so im adding in CFLs i liiiiike your setup you inspired me to do just the same!
check out the Wagobox and connector tabs their very useful when it comes to wiring everything
this was a nice grow brah helped me out a lot too :smokin:

[drew225]

I think I paid about $1.50 for each packet. The postage was about $2.50

I bought about 5 packs and each pack has about 8 hits, i read the hit quantity online, so I doubled it :)

So, I divide a pack into 4 equal bags, and then I add 8-10 big spoons of sugar to 1.5L of warm water. This is enough to create lots of CO2 !

I have a valve to release the CO2 in a slow fashion so when I give the 2L bottle a shake I can see the bottle's sides expand under the pressure...

It has had an amazing effect on my grow :) It is so easy to set up it's crazy not to use the simple system.

I will be changing the yeast every 5 days or less. So I can do a whole bloom with 5 packets or so... it's cheap as chips so why not invest in it !

But really, there is a lot of CO2 coming out of that simple 2L bottle... More than you can imagine ! :)


Do you have a picture of your co2 set up by any chance? Im making mine the same way except I have 6 1 gallon containers which is one container per 2 plants. It has seemed to make a difference. My question is do I have enough yeast added? I wen with 10 tbsp of sugar, filled with water to about 3/4 full, and added one tbsp of turbo yeart per container. Also I have drilled a 3/8 hole in each cap on the container and inserted a hose about 5 inches long for venting the co2 out

[mattdi22le]

from a fellow paddy......

hey silent leprechaun, first of ive been reading your grow logs and your posts, some quality work both on here and in the tent, makes for excellent viewing and reading to anyone even mildly interested in the subject, i have just a few questions you might help me with, i'm starting my first grow, its a closet grow going to be using all cfl's have air circulation in the form of large pc fans one intake at bottom and one output at top, also going to put a small oscillating fan in with the girls, i'm gonna grow blueberry, and am using soil, i seen in one of your posts you said irish water wasn't great even if left out for a few days, so what do you use ? and do you work to a schedule as far as watering, nutes are concerned ? any other pointers or tips would be great,

thanks man


disclaimer stuff...............i have multiple personilties none of which farm cannabis,

[silent leprechaun]

so in your case do you recommend both LED and CFL?
im currently running a 300 Watt LED seems like my plants are growing slow
so im adding in CFLs

Yeah, CFL are a nice addition to the LED. The CFL fill in the gaps left by the LED. Many LED lights have very tight bandwidths in the blue and red spectrum which leaves a large area open.

The LED I use incorporates 7 bandwidths and UV and IR. The newer models are 14 band I believe. However, filling in the gaps is a good idea all round.

Also, the heat expelled from the CFL's can be used to keep the tent temperature at a nice 26 - 28 degrees if you have trouble with the cold.

I use the heat from the CFL and send it back into my house through the carbon filter. It's a win/win situation for us all.

Hope this has helped you.

Take Care

S.L.

[looselipssinkships]

Nice read mate great little grow!,think it's time I made the transition to led my eyes are sore with looking at the proof they do seem to actually. Work,need to get away from the old â??if it's not broke don't fix itâ?? mentality, once again nice one mate.