worried about qf

[biggmoneyme]

Quick fix hasn't failed me or anything, yet. i read more and more stories about labs catching the fake urine. could one bring warm water with him(distilled water) and pour it right into the sample. if so whats a good ratio?

[Burnt Toast]

Why would you consider adding any water to the synthetic sample?

[biggmoneyme]

not the synthetic sample. i was thinking, since they're catching up to qf, that i could simply carry a warm bottle of water (like i carry a warm bottle of fake piss) and dilute my real sample with it. Like pour warm water directly into the cup. diluting my pee with warm water.

[Burnt Toast]

not the synthetic sample. i was thinking, since they're catching up to qf, that i could simply carry a warm bottle of water (like i carry a warm bottle of fake piss) and dilute my real sample with it. Like pour warm water directly into the cup. diluting my pee with warm water. How would you know that the THCA level in your urine is not so sky-high that it would not respond to any external dilution without going overboard (which would send the S/G and creatinine levels into such a downward spiral that the urine sample would end up being ruled 'not consistent with human urine')?

[biggmoneyme]

well i guess my bright idea wasn't so bright lol. i'll stay with quickfix, who cares if i lose my job. i've been thinking about moving into the wilderness anyway

[Burnt Toast]

well i guess my bright idea wasn't so bright lol. i'll stay with quickfix, who cares if i lose my job. i've been thinking about moving into the wilderness anyway
If youre worried about the efficacy of the QF, you can consider two things:

- Find a clean donor (age/gender is irrelevant). Just be sure the donor is indeed drug-free and had not drank a ton of fluids prior to giving you the sample.

- Test your QF bottle to make sure the creatinine, S/G, etc are all within acceptable limits. These test kits are inexpensive and are found online by doing a Google search for "drug adulteration test kits".

[biggmoneyme]

i'm worried about QF becuase i read threads online of it failing for not being human. i'm not sure what they reason it is coming back "not human" but thank you i will look into these kits

[Burnt Toast]

i'm worried about QF becuase i read threads online of it failing for not being human. i'm not sure what they reason it is coming back "not human" but thank you i will look into these kitsWithout being sure of the reason why, what makes you think those threads were not fabricated by some individual with ties to a marketer of magic detox potions or dehydrated urine samples? Or some individual who's just out to register on every forum online to make their one-and-only anectodal post (usually in the wee-hours of the A.M.) of unsubstantiated FUD?

Without the scanning of any legitimate, supportive documentation (stating the reasons complete with quantitative values, as required), all of those threads that you may have read should be taken with a box of salt.

[webdox]

i'm worried about QF becuase i read threads online of it failing for not being human. i'm not sure what they reason it is coming back "not human" but thank you i will look into these kits

Exactly what BT said... I have yet to see ONE scanned report of the bullshit synthetic failures. As a matter of fact, on a certain other forum that is named for weed where paid advertisers are allowed to be moderators of the urine testing forum, they have several times set up sock puppet accounts and try and spread fear and lies about synthetic urine because it affects their bottom line. They usually try and claim their samples were rejected by McGruff the piss sniffing poorly paid lab collector who has a calibrated and tested sense of smell that allows them to legally reject samples based on smell or lack of foam. Truth is their biggest enemy and the truth is, detox potions are a scam and synthetic urine is not.

Whenever pressed, the stories always fall apart in the few cases where someone actually was being honest and told what it failed for it becomes clear that buying QF from a headshop and not testing it yourself is a sure fire way to get flagged for using non human urine. They caught the creatinine level in EVERY case, even the most recent one floating around on that site, not some new test they use to catch synthetic pee. Creatinine is checked with all GC/MS. When the bottle is REAL and/or not expired... it always passes this check. When it is fake product or sat on the self too long, the creatinine level dissipates and comes up as non human. That certainly does mean they catch fake pee now.

They cannot detect synthetic urine in Oregon, Hawaii, or anywhere else. They do not test for uric in any of the 50 States so those who buy the Canadian version are wasting their time and $ and adding another potential, unnecessary step where they might mess up.

[Burnt Toast]

Creatinine is checked with all GC/MS.

Actually Web, the GC/MS is not used to check creatinine levels. The GC/MS is used only to confirm drug positives and two types of adulterants: Pyridine and Glutaraldehyde. Creatinine levels are checked using colorimetry (the typical validity dipstick/cup/cassette) while Refractometry is used for checking the specific gravity. Colorimetry can also be used for SG as the initial analysis.

Source: http://www.workplace.samhsa.gov/DrugTesting/pdf/Analytical%20Testing%20Methods%20-%20February%202005.pdf

[webdox]

Actually Web, the GC/MS is not used to check creatinine levels. The GC/MS is used only to confirm drug positives and two types of adulterants: Pyridine and Glutaraldehyde. Creatinine levels are checked using colorimetry (the typical validity dipstick/cup/cassette) while Refractometry is used for checking the specific gravity. Colorimetry can also be used for SG as the initial analysis.

Source: http://www.workplace.samhsa.gov/DrugTesting/pdf/Analytical%20Testing%20Methods%20-%20February%202005.pdf

LOL that's what we need you BT... my stoned posts after 2 straight 16 hours shifts the ER are not always spot on :) Thanks for the correction.

[Burnt Toast]

my stoned posts after 2 straight 16 hours shifts the ER are not always spot on I know the feeling bro.....It tends to be worse for me if I'm too busy to take lunch/dinner breaks (read "toke breaks") in between those hours.