The 9/11 WTC Collapses:Questions the Media Won't Address

[pisshead]

tons of videos and articles archived here:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_media.html (http://whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_media.html)


The 9/11 WTC Collapses:
Questions the Media Won't Address



Is it pure coincidence that FEMA was in New York on September 10? Why did they deny this fact?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html)
If WTC 1 was constructed with weak trusses and weak bolts then how did it withstand the impact of Flight 11?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/trusstheory.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/trusstheory.html)
Why were staff in WTC 2 instructed to stay in the building following Flight 11's impact into WTC 1?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jackasses.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jackasses.html)
How was it known that the World Trade Center was going to collapse? Why were only a select few told?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html)
Where were the 800°C infernos in the buildings?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm)
Why didn't firefighters in the impact area of WTC 2 report a blazing inferno or failing trusses before the building's collapse?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc2_firefighters.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc2_firefighters.html)
Why did firefighters report bombs in the WTC buildings? Why did firefighters report explosions before the collapses?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html)
Why didn't structural debris fall from the burning towers? Why did trusses in WTC 2 spontaneously fail across entire floors?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_trusses.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_trusses.html)
How did WTC 1's structure remain intact as it collapsed?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_smoking_gun.html (http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_smoking_gun.html)
Why did white smoke appear at the base of WTC 1 ~10 seconds before the collapse of the building?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shake.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shake.html)
How could conventional fires produce temperatures in excess of 700°C in the WTC wreckage?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thermite.htm (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thermite.htm)
How could conventional fires in the WTC wreckage burn for three months?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fires_911.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fires_911.html)
Larry Silverstein said of WTC 7 "the smartest thing to do is pull it" (i.e. demolish it), and all evidence points to this occurring. When and why were demolition charges placed in the building?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html)
Why was the investigation into the WTC collapses an underfunded farce?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fema_911.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fema_911.html)
Wild conspiracy theory?

[Marlboroman]

Pisshead I would love to join you in this fight bro but its just too annoying trying to talk sense into these people.

I'll stay in the grow section from now on.

[amsterdam]

those are quality post guy.reliable info.

[XTC]

What Really Happened is that two 747 Jets filled with Fuel flew into these towers going over 500 miles I believe. You know... that could lead the towers collapsing and what not.

[amsterdam]

you are correct sir,and maybe, just maybe the small fires all through building 7 and the gaping hole in the side with the falling 100 and something floor buildings around it brought down building 7?

nah,it a missle.lol.

[Marlboroman]

you are correct sir,and maybe, just maybe the small fires all through building 7 and the gaping hole in the side with the falling 100 and something floor buildings around it brought down building 7?

nah,it a missle.lol.


man whats up with you in one post your telling Pisshead good info and the next your slamming his reasoniong for even posting it....

[amsterdam]

because the first was super sarcastic."WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM" gimme a break.

[Marlboroman]

ah i see you were trying to be sarcastic.... works allot better if you add a joke on the end.

here try this..

those are quality post guy. relieable info. next time what dont you try getafuckingclueyouleftwingsucker.com

[amsterdam]

he knows i was sarcastic.believe me.

[Marlboroman]

he knows i was sarcastic.believe me.

Not a chance in the world guy.

[amsterdam]

if pisshead read that, he knew i was sarcastic

[Marlboroman]

if pisshead read that, he knew i was sarcastic

I was talking about me beleiveing you.

[Hydrizzle]

Jesus christ, the internet is full of garbage Pisshead, don't believe everything you read like some kind of zombie. whatreallyhappened.org? Give me a fucking break, this is just some crazy conspiracy-theorist's webpage he made on his spare time. C'mon man, you don't really think that someone in our gov't intentionally cause 9/11? Thats just stupid.

[pisshead]

it's links to videos and interviews with firefighters and the firefighters tapes' from that day totally contradicting the story we've been told and lots of more stuff...you don't have to look at it if you don't want to. they've simply archived it. they didn't make up what they have there.

i certainly don't believe 19 hijackers who hate freedom managed to pull this off, there are simply too many things they couldn't have done.

there are lots of unanswered important questions.

[Hydrizzle]

19 hijackers couldn't have done this? Have you ever been on a plane pisshead? They don't keep the pilot's doors locked, they keep them open! IT would so easy to get in there and kill the pilots, then use your flying skills to fly it right into the buildings. What's so hard to believe? I know; it isn't hard to believe at all; you just WANT to believe it was the big, bad government on some massive conspiracy to take us to war for oil. Yes that has to be it, it CAN'T be that maybe there are a bunch of crazy muslim fuckers that want us dead because we help Isreal.... no that can't be it....

[pisshead]

okay. it's there if you want to look at it. if you don't, fine.

i've spent the last 3+ years going over this stuff over and over and over and over, and i haven't reached these conclusions lightly. those are links to video evidence and congressional testimony...there's more to the story than 4 planes and 19 hijackers.

[yocass]

marlboroman... I doubt amsterdam wrote that post for you. Sorry to burst your bubble. And pisshead.. yes, a wild comspiracy theory that has been debunked by numerous people. Spend some research on why those theories arent correct. Ill debunk one for you myself! Ok they all say a fire cant cause a bulding collapse, and quote some building that was on fire for a very very very long time. Then they say diesel fuel couldnt have caused the damage. The fact is, the building wasnt on fire, diesel wasnt on fire, JET FUEL was on fire. Thousands of gallons. The WTC people were misquoted saying it could withstand a jet impact. it DID withstand a jet impact. It didnt survive 20,000 gallons of jet fuel melting steel. (it can, buy some jetfuel and steel and see for yourself).

[Hydrizzle]

I looked through it, and the bullshit runs so deep you would need an excavator to get it all out.


PS I was gonna say what yocass just said, Im just too high right now...

[pisshead]

firefighters all up and down the building, with PUPICLY AVAILABLE firefighter transmissions from that day that you can actually hear and really exist, found small pockets of fire. you can see people standing and waving in the impact sites of the buildings before they collapsed, standing on melting steel they are not.

the fires didn't get nearly hot enough to melt steel. of course, a proper investigation could have been done if the buildings weren't sent overseas as fast as possible.

multiple engineers involved with the construction of those buildings, and if you're familiar with the construction, it has a massive steel core, and they were certain it could withstand multiple jet impacts. it was built with that in mind.

you're calling a lot of firefighters who were in the buildings that day conspiracy theorists too.

how do you explain larry sliverstein's comments regarding building 7? have you heard of building 7?

[Hydrizzle]

Im sure the "small pockets of fire" were cause my the massive shaking the building underwent at the collision. The weight of the building on the top caused the bottom to collapse. This argument is pointless; despite what you think, your scource is utter garbage. Please don't continue unless you come up with a better scource.

[yocass]

Im calling firefighters comspiracy theorists for finding small fires? If a firefighter got near an inferno of jet fuel, he would be dead. He could never get close enough to see the size of it. explosions actually happen from evaporated fuel too. If you get rid of the liquid (jet fuel evaporates quickly) and keep the vapors in a confined space... say a hallway or a room, guess what happens? BOOM with the slightest of sparks. As I said built with impacts in mind. They did not account for all that fuel being lit all over. Have you even read the proof (nope not theories) debunking pretty much that whole stupid site? You probably think a missile hit the pentagon too right?

[pisshead]

yes, sir.

for those who care to not have their perception of 9/11 framed by what they're given on tv and newspapers and popular public thought after information has passed through a gatekeeper and want to get information straight from those involved, and want to hear firefighter transmissions, and interviews with engineers who worked on wtc, and larry silverstein's comments about the buliding he OWNED and receiving a MASSIVE INSURANCE PAYOUT on WTC building 7 (WITH NO INVESTIGATION FOR WHAT IS CLEARLY FRAUD, AFTER YOU HEAR WHAT HE SAYS PUBLICLY IN A DOCUMENTARY), and congressional testimony and 9/11 commission testimony, etc...go to that site. it's archived a lot of video and audio from that day.

you're the conspiracy theorist if you believe it was strictly 4 planes and 19 hijackers while ignoring the PUT OPTIONS that were placed on american and united before 9/11. record put options, the money went unclaimed. this was reported on FOX and CNN before it was quickly dropped...did the money lead back to bin laden? no. this is an important question.

what about the members of the bush administration and others warned not to fly on 9/11. they have admitted this, ashcroft, mayor willy brown...they admitted this publicly. did bin laden call them? maybe one of the freedom hating terrorists turned and called willy. oh well, it doesn't fit in with the 19 hijackers theory so it's all made up.

people in NYC knew there was going to be an attack. i've personally heard stories and have seen people interviewed on the street in NYC who had family members who warned them. not the dumb old retarded administration though. they had no idea this kind of scenario could even happen. nevermind the drills of a plane hitting the pentagon done in the late 90's...and i have a book by gary allen published in the 1970's that talk about drills of planes hitting the pentagon. and even though there were drills being done ON 9/11 of HIJACKED PLANES hitting targets in NYC...wow, what a god damn coincidence. the pentagon admitted it was just a coincidence. we had no idea what was taking place in reality could actually take place, we were just running a drill of exactly what was happening as it was happening on the day it happened.




"...and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes."

--Adolph Hitler, burned his own parliament building as an excuse to subvert their constitutional republic, so the dictatorship could keep them safe from the communists.

Hitler wasn't the first or the last person in a position of power to do this. history is full of it. but i guess the typical response would be, "it can't happen here...people wouldn't let it..."

guess what, i'm afraid 9/11 is our big lie. that's all.


you can't trust the firefighters who were in the buildings that day! that's absurd! i believe what some government official tells me happened. good 'nuff for me.

[yocass]

untill you ge what I posted... I fear for you. I trust the firefighters just fine. Im sure they saw small fires. But as I said... who cares? I believe what some conspiracy site tells me! better put on your foil hat man. Its not that people wouldnt let it happen here, its just that it never happened. and dont give me the patriot act shit. How many people were arersted because of that... its an issue yeah, but in the scheme of things, a minor one. I believe what hundreds of actual studies say instead of misinterpreted audio. You can easily make someone say the wrong things with audio and visual by leaving out certain segments. It happens all the time. Read the REAL studies instead of croc pot theories that some kid made up.

[Hydrizzle]

Ahmen to that yocass.

[pisshead]

not worth my original response.

it's obviously over your head.

[Marlboroman]

not worth my original response.

it's obviously over your head.


Amen

[Cannabist00]

--George Bush, ignoring the warnings from months before, allowed the attack on the WTC buildings as an excuse to subvert their constitutional republic, so the dictatorship could keep them safe from the terrorists.

Allowing the bombing of Pearl Harbor worked so well, why not do it again, no?

If you think the US government doesn't lie and manipulate world wide events at the request of the NWO Illuminatti (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bilderbergs etc.), you are ignoring the biggest conspiracy theory in human history. That ain't theory, that's fact. Recorded, documented fact. Do your own search.

[Marlboroman]

--George Bush, ignoring the warnings from months before, allowed the attack on the WTC buildings as an excuse to subvert their constitutional republic, so the dictatorship could keep them safe from the terrorists.

Allowing the bombing of Pearl Harbor worked so well, why not do it again, no?

If you think the US government doesn't lie and manipulate world wide events at the request of the NWO Illuminatti (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bilderbergs etc.), you are ignoring the biggest conspiracy theory in human history. That ain't theory, that's fact. Recorded, documented fact. Do your own search.


I see here that you would understand how the wealth of the world is divided, and I'm glad to see that others are speaking up as well. For some reason these guys actually beleive Democrats and Republicans are actually at different ends of political theory.

[Herbaholic00]

I cant really be bothered even talking about this now ( i think some one else said that), but here is a link.......

In the late 1930s, the British Israel World Federation Movement's Destiny Magazine published articles identifying September 2001 as the target date for beginning their planned global theocratic state -- a"Kingdom of Heaven on Earth."
Jordan Maxwell presents the following ultra-high-resolution scans of the ORIGINAL ARTICLES so you can see for yourself what these people have been talking privately about for generations in their own publications.



http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/british-israel.htm .



Peace

[pisshead]

the evidence of government involvement and prior knowledge is overwhelming. to hear 'official' after 'official' say they never had any clue something like this could have even happened or have been thought to even happen is an outright lie.

if an access tv and radio host in austin, tx knew months beforehand that an attack on washington and NYC was going to take place and did everything he could to warn people and tell them to call the white house and tell them not to go through with the attack, and people all over the streets and businesses and schools in NYC knew...come on.

and then tommy franks says in a cigar aficionado interview that we will go under martial law after the next attack, and we will give up the constitution for a form of military government. they are gearing up for this now. he's so sad about it, but this grand experiment we call democracy, as he put it (full well knowing this country IS NOT A DEMOCRACY), well we're just going to realize it doesn't work. dictatorship and federal control over everything works.

incrementalism, the frog in the pot...fabian socialism, slowly but surely.

i believed the official lie for a long time...and i didn't reach these conclusions, as others have also reached it, lightly at all.

[Marlboroman]

Hey Pisshead, I'd like to talk to you away from the arguments, If you will please email me at [email protected]

[pisshead]

marlboroman, you got mail.


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein.html

come on, does the word 'fraud' come to mind here? i mean, what the fuck. if i convince my wife to take out a large life insurance policy, and she ends up dead, and i end up 'fortuitously' with a couple million...you can bet your ass i'm going to be investigated for fraud, and murder. no doubt about it.

silverstein takes a massive insurance payout, multiple billions, gets a brand spanking new building 7, and pockets some cash for himself...after his building is demolished in the most beautiful controlled demolition i've ever seen, meaning prior knowledge of 9/11, and NOTHING IS DONE. NO MEDIA INVESTIGATION, NO INVESTIGATION FOR FRAUD!!

why would you just decide to demolish your entire building, on the same day 9/11 happens, while firefighters are on record saying the fires were controlled, and only in a couple isolated areas, while your current building needs hundreds of millions in renovations that can't be afforded? just a big fucking coincidence. no modern steel building has collapsed from fire, they can burn for hours and hours and hours and hours, and then lie about to get billions of dollars, and have no one question you.

everyone should be outraged.

[Marlboroman]

marlboroman, you got mail.


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein.html

come on, does the word 'fraud' come to mind here? i mean, what the fuck. if i convince my wife to take out a large life insurance policy, and she ends up dead, and i end up 'fortuitously' with a couple million...you can bet your ass i'm going to be investigated for fraud, and murder. no doubt about it.

silverstein takes a massive insurance payout, multiple billions, gets a brand spanking new building 7, and pockets some cash for himself...after his building is demolished in the most beautiful controlled demolition i've ever seen, meaning prior knowledge of 9/11, and NOTHING IS DONE. NO MEDIA INVESTIGATION, NO INVESTIGATION FOR FRAUD!!

why would you just decide to demolish your entire building, on the same day 9/11 happens, while firefighters are on record saying the fires were controlled, and only in a couple isolated areas, while your current building needs hundreds of millions in renovations that can't be afforded? just a big fucking coincidence. no modern steel building has collapsed from fire, they can burn for hours and hours and hours and hours, and then lie about to get billions of dollars, and have no one question you.

everyone should be outraged.

What I would like to know is who is acting on Silversteins behalf to communicate with the planners of the attack. Or is he doing it himself.
but your right, there is no way any inurance company is going to payout that amount of money without investigating, unless it happens to be the same people controlling both.

Insurance companies are more hardcore with their investigations that police are, Police get paid by taxes and their salaries never change. Insurance companies however do not like to give out money and you can bet that if Silverstein was poor and burnt down his own house to get the insurance, his ass would be in jail, based on investigation techniches developed by the same insurance companies.

this is another issue to look at as well, seeing as most of our investigation techniches are developed by the insurance companies, it is entirely concievable to say that an outcome of an investigation can be manipulated. Either by the insurancce company themselves or by those that control them.

However lets just say that he didnt do this, there is still something to be angry about.... Buildings are heavy. millions of tons of concrete and steel. the demolition contractors that hauled this stuff away got paid by weight.

So even if Silverstein didnt have prior knowledge of the event, he still took advantage of the situation and had the tax payers pick up the tab for his demolition.

I think that the reason people dont want to beleive in this stuff is because they are uneducated about the amount of WEALTH that is privately possesed by the Wealthiest of the Wealty.

O.J. proved that with money comes innocence in even the most hanius of crimes.

The world these people live in is something most can't even comprehend, I can't even begin to understand how ones minds starts to operate after a life time of that type of wealth.

[pisshead]

it had to have been wired for demolition before 9/11...you can't set that up in 8 hours. controlled demolition is a science.

so even if he didn't know about 9/11, he said they made the decision to pull, and we watched the building fall...how often is it that buildings are just wired to be brought down by the push of a button...?

and then why would you demolish a building when it's entirely not necessary.

seems a bit strange.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/building-implosion.htm

[Marlboroman]

it had to have been wired for demolition before 9/11...you can't set that up in 8 hours. controlled demolition is a science.

so even if he didn't know about 9/11, he said they made the decision to pull, and we watched the building fall...how often is it that buildings are just wired to be brought down by the push of a button...?

and then why would you demolish a building when it's entirely not necessary.

seems a bit strange.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/building-implosion.htm

Ya i agree I think i was trying to pre-imptively strike a lame rebute by some "right-wing" before it got rolling, by adding that lets just say he didnt do it thing. And then I tried to give them a reason to be miffed by it. But im certain they will reject it as more "left-wing" trash and not see the true points in my comments.

[Hydrizzle]

Damn damn damn, you people are crazy!

[amsterdam]

its fun to watch though.you can see the madness.

[Hydrizzle]

See it? It's infecting me. I need to smoke like 4 blunts to erase this madness.

How can someone think that our governemnt did 911? Its crazy!

[amsterdam]

lol.