CGI's gettin his feet wet....

[CanGroIt]

I have no idea why I didn't start with hydro this year.... I've been getting my hands dirty for the past 11 months or so and now that I decided to break out my hydro units....I have no idea why I didn't do this sooner....

I've plenty of hydro experience and know that plants shouldn't share a res but....I like to go outside the box.... Plus I can afford to lose out a crop if things go south....but I'm sure they won't.... I'm also limited with space so having lots of small plants is what works for me....

Anyway....to the grow....

I started with 15 rooting cuttings in the homemade DWC res (first 2 pics, two weeks ago).... 3 of them didn't root (pre-mature mother/cuttings not big enough)....


Well the three on the far left and three on the far right outgrew the rest so I dropped them in my little Rainforest Aeroponic bucket from GH....and put them in to flower....(last 3 pics).... One of them has fan leaves as big as my hand....and is about 8 inches tall.... The screen you see on them is to lst them a bit so as to stop them from stretching up too much.... That, and I know that they will have monster buds on them later that'll need some support....

That lil bucket has a 2.5gal res with 2 airstones and a 60gal per minute sub-pump shooting up water displaced by a flat end cap that evenly splashes the water to each 3" net pot....6 total....

More to come....

CGI::::::

[CanGroIt]

These other lil ones that are still vegging will be dropped into my other lil Rainforest Aero system tonight....

If you can zoom in on the ones I have in the red party cups....you can see a huge difference in size from the ones in the cups to the ones in the hydro setup.... Believe it or not but the cuttings were taken the same day....and dropped into their current mediums the same day....

The biggest difference between the two, other than medium, is distance from my cfls.... The ones in hydro recieved direct and close lumens while the others received indirect lighting.... Either way....I'm still seeing much faster growth with hydro....and will most likely only be keeping soil around for mothers.... I really can't wait to have the space again to break out my big hydro systems....*sigh*....

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[GaGrown]

Do I see some revegged mamas? Hell yeah.. You go! I got a SK#1 That I just harvested and have her reveggin'. Most all of the past 3 grows have been with revegged plants.

I know when I started this hydro.. I had no idea as to the size of these monsters. I might add,that is with 1/4 strength nutes until I flower. I've never given a ful dose in veg. When I change to flower. I clean my bucket and fill with ph'd water. I slowly work my way to full bloom nutes. I've found that it's easier to handle when it a low dose rather than screwin' up and givin' full dose. Just works out better that way.For me..

I really should had not worried with the air layerin' my DWC mama.. It was takin' so long to root,the plant has monsterously outgrown the tent. The stalk under the panda film.. It's big as a beer can. Root mass as large as the bucket will let it grow. So white and clean lookin(roots). Maybe I'll be able to learn from your experiences,too!

Ga.

Great to see ya gonna dabble in the hydro! I kinda like it..

[CanGroIt]

I wouldn't go full strength in veg either....

I'm running Advanced Nutes Jungle Juice 3-part with cal-mag and B-1 right now....

For week 1 of flower I have them at 500ppm....ph fluctuates up so I offset it down to 5.5 and then drop it back down to 5.5 once it reaches 6.2....

My recipe for this week is:

JJ Grow - 4ml per gal
JJ Micro - 3ml per gal
JJ Bloom - 2ml per gal
Cal-Mag - 2.5ml per gal
B-1 - 2.5ml per gal

I'll be adding Big Bud for weeks 2-4.... Then powdered Kool Bloom weeks 5-7 to finish them off....

Soil or hydro....I just love growing cannabis!!!!

CGI::::::

[tinytoon]

Welcome back to Hydro CGI and remember dont pee in the pool :)
That Jungle Juice you are using, is that the new PH neutral stuff they came out with??

[CanGroIt]

Welcome back to Hydro CGI and remember dont pee in the pool :)
That Jungle Juice you are using, is that the new PH neutral stuff they came out with??

Thanks :thumbsup:.... Aaahhhhhh.... It's good to be back in hydro....

It didn't specifically say on the bottles that it was pH neutral.... I decided to get this trio when I saw the price for each liter....freakin inexpensive....$7.50 a bottle....they'll probably last me a year or so.... Plus that, and the fact that Advanced Nutes is well regarded with other cannabis growers.... So far I'm loving the results....and my lil ones seem to be loving the nutes.... They're taking in about 75ppm per day right now.... I'll probably be topping off a gallon a day in the later weeks of flower....darn small res....oh well....it still feels really good to be back in water again....:jointsmile:....

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[tinytoon]

'NEW Micro Grow Bloom Base Fertlilizer Package PH Perfect - Advanced Nutrients Discount Packages (http://advancednutrientsonline.com/proddetail.php?prod=m-g-b-php)
Take a peak at this stuff. If it really works there gonna be allot of PH measuring devices collecting dust.

[CanGroIt]

'NEW Micro Grow Bloom Base Fertlilizer Package PH Perfect - Advanced Nutrients Discount Packages (http://advancednutrientsonline.com/proddetail.php?prod=m-g-b-php)
Take a peak at this stuff. If it really works there gonna be allot of PH measuring devices collecting dust.

I agree.... Them nutes right there might be worth working with....

The ones I have don't have that label....

CGI::::::

[tinytoon]

well who ever gets to them first gets to write the review

[CanGroIt]

well who ever gets to them first gets to write the review

I've been having such steady pH and solid nutrient uptake....if this keeps up....I probably won't want to try something else for a while....

So I guess we can count this as my review for this version....

CGI::::::

[CanGroIt]

They've really gotten bushy!!! Me likey :thumbsup:....

I didn't get to add the second bucket to my flower cab until a day later than I thought....so the smaller plants are 4 days behind the larger ones....

pH has been staying where I leave it.... If I leave my bucket at 5.85....24 hrs later....I'll get a reading in the same 5.8 range....

I've been having to top off about a liter a day with: (for bucket with larger plants)

3ml of JJ Grow
2ml of JJ Micro
1ml of JJ Bloom
2ml of CalMag
2ml of B1

After topping off with nutes and water my ppms are at 490-520.... 24hrs later after topping off with a liter or so, before adding nutes, I'll get a 300-330ppm reading.... The ppms are letting me know that they are eating up these nutes like crazy.... The smaller plants aren't eating up as much but thats expected this early.... pH however is as stable as the res with the larger plants....

Happy Growing :thumbsup:....

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[tinytoon]

Is that a "Lucas Formula" I see?? and is that what u put in 1 litre??
Pretty plants btw :thumbsup:

[CanGroIt]

Is that a "Lucas Formula" I see?? and is that what u put in 1 litre??
Pretty plants btw :thumbsup: ----Thank You....

I haven't read too much into the Formula of Lucas :jointsmile:.... TBH....I learned my feed/recipe schedule from Zandor....and been using it since.... Using a 3-part base ratio of 3:2:1 (Grow:Micro:Bloom) for veg up until day 7 of FL.... 1:1:1 for days 7 -14 of FL.... Then a 1:2:3 ratio for days 14-35 of FL.... And finally 0:1:2 ratio for the remainder of a nutrient filled res.... Flush before harvest.... And that's how I apply my feed ratios....

No....that isn't what I put per liter.... That amount gives me 150+/- ppm needed to reach the ppm nutrient level I want to keep for this week.... The amount I use to top off will most likely increase as they grow larger....

CGI::::::

[tinytoon]

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/93676-latewoods-legacy-gh-3-part-calmag-tutorial-discussion.html
Dont know if you have read this or not but it changed my mix. In veg per gal I used to run (GH 3-part, G/M/B, ml) 5/5/5. When I switched to flower I ran 5/2.5/10 and also 10ml Liquid Koolbloom. That was first 2 weeks. After that it changed to 5/2.5/10 and 1/4 tsp per gal dry Koolbloom. 3rd to last week drop to half str, final 2 weeks plain water. I also use Flourishous Plus (sorry for spelling) from start to finish at 1ml per gal.

[CanGroIt]

Yeah....I've read that thread....

For boosters I've got Big Bud for weeks 2-4 and KoolBloom for weeks 5 & 6.... Week 7 I'll use a flushing agent (florakleen) for the first 24hrs then replace with plain RO water until harvest.... Harvest....what a beautiful word....

Have you ever tried removing the Grow from your base ratio the last couple weeks??? And dropping pH like latewood describes???

CGI::::::

[CanGroIt]

The larger plants were getting really bushy....so I decided to trim lower growth and tie each one to the screen I made.... I'd rather have them focus all energy above where I tied them....

Pic1 is a side view....
Pic2 is a top view....
You can see where I tied them in pic3....
Pic 4 is the smaller plants....

I did a res change for the larger plants yesterday.... Am running 600ppms this week....@ 5.85 pH....

This weeks recipe per 2.5gal:
10ml of JJ Grow, Micro & Bloom
7.5ml of CalMag
7.5ml of B1

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[tinytoon]

nope. about the time I was ready to really start experimenting and such I received a call at work from the local PD saying I needed to come home as they wanted to talk about a few things. Well after I helped them cut everything down and carry it out to their car I decided to take a break for awhile LOL

[CanGroIt]

Them nugs is startin to form....mmmmm....

This weeks recipe per 3gal:

12ml of JJ Bloom
9ml of JJ Micro
6ml of JJ Grow
9ml of Big Bud
10ml of CalMag
10ml of B1

ppms @ 700 pH @ 5.8

The larger plants are eating up a storm.... While the smaller ones are following along at their own pace.... I placed a 3" net pot on top of the larger plants for size reference....see pics....

Happy Growing :thumbsup:....

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[drudown11]

Yeah....I've read that thread....

For boosters I've got Big Bud for weeks 2-4 and KoolBloom for weeks 5 & 6.... Week 7 I'll use a flushing agent (florakleen) for the first 24hrs then replace with plain RO water until harvest.... Harvest....what a beautiful word....

Have you ever tried removing the Grow from your base ratio the last couple weeks??? And dropping pH like latewood describes???

CGI::::::

Personally i think using a flushing agent in DWC is a waste of money. Its suppose to break the ionic bond behind mineral salts and the growing media. With your media being super oxygenated water, plain water should serve the same purpose. In rockwool, hydroton, or soil gardens the salts can accumulate and can be hard to flush out in the last week or so but just changing your water will get rid of any buildup.

[CanGroIt]

Personally i think using a flushing agent in DWC is a waste of money. Its suppose to break the ionic bond behind mineral salts and the growing media. With your media being super oxygenated water, plain water should serve the same purpose. In rockwool, hydroton, or soil gardens the salts can accumulate and can be hard to flush out in the last week or so but just changing your water will get rid of any buildup.

I'd been thinking about not using flushing agents.... Think 7 days in plain RO would be enough of a flush???

CGI::::::

[tinytoon]

1 1/2 weeks with plain water worked for me

[CanGroIt]

1 1/2 weeks with plain water worked for me

10-11 days???.... Sounds good :thumbsup:....

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