New here, lighting question concerning grow.

[Lovelife420]

hi their, i was going to get this stealth grow box- links down their.
Private Farm - Chester - Stealth Grow Cabinet | EastWestHydro (http://www.eastwesthydro.com/grow-cabinets/private-farm/chester-stealth-grow-cabinet?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=product-feed).
But it comes with 150W HPS Bulb and Ballast for 16,000 lumens of growing power. With growing marijuana, does that cover the vegatation stage as well as the flowering? Feed back would be appeciated

[pushit]

hi their, i was going to get this stealth grow box- links down their.
Private Farm - Chester - Stealth Grow Cabinet | EastWestHydro (http://www.eastwesthydro.com/grow-cabinets/private-farm/chester-stealth-grow-cabinet?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=product-feed).
But it comes with 150W HPS Bulb and Ballast for 16,000 lumens of growing power. With growing marijuana, does that cover the vegatation stage as well as the flowering? Feed back would be appeciated

Yes you can veg and flower with a HPS. Are you planning on doing a SOG or something?

[jiggsaw]

That thing cost a LOT ! I was going to buy one off ebay but the price is crazy. I wonder how many plants will fit? Prolly only one. It seems to be really safe and stealth though.

[Lovelife420]

Okay, cause i know that you need a certain amount of specturm for veg and lower amount for flowering. And ya i was gonna do a SOG. I suspect you could probaly fit in 8 plants in their. Dressers are pretty large.

[Lovelife420]

And for veg i thought u needed 6500k of lums and for flowering you need 2700k. that was my initial question, So if i;m vegging like 4 plants under this 16,000lum hps and they start to flower.. it'l flower them? or would i need to get a dual spec light?

[pushit]

Mh light would be the "proper" one to use during veg but the hps will work fine. Running your lights 12 hrs on 12 hrs off will flower them if you are growing photoperiod plants. I take it you are gonna be using clones for the SOG? I think i read that dresser is around 3ft tall. Thats without your light and the pots youll be using. What im getting at is you will have very little vertical space to work with. You might be better off lsting a couple plants so you can keep them low. Thats just my 2cents

[tinytoon]

And for veg i thought u needed 6500k of lums and for flowering you need 2700k. that was my initial question, So if i;m vegging like 4 plants under this 16,000lum hps and they start to flower.. it'l flower them? or would i need to get a dual spec light?

By reading this I dont really think you understand the terms with lighting. Spectrum has absoulutely nothing to do with lumens. 6500k is on the cold side of the light spectrum and has a high amount of "blue" in its spectrum. 2700k is pretty much the exact opposite. 2700k is on the warm side which is the "red" end of the spectrum. The colder u go on the spectrum the more your light will appear to be white and warm side makes it appear yellow. Lumens is a measurement of how bright the light is.

[CanGroIt]

Dressers are pretty large.

"Grow Volume: 16” x 30” x 33” high".... This is a small space that will be out grown very quickly....

IMO....a small space like that would be great for veg....but not near the size of cab that should be used for flower.... Why??? Because plants double - triple - quadruple in size while in flowering mode.... And I'm sure you'll find the results of this cab to be lower than your expectations....if you did decide to get after all....

Just my :twocents:....

CGI::::::

[kingjustin]

I just finished out in a converted dresser with almost the exact same measurements. The 150 is ok, but the yields kind of suck. Also, ventilation is a bitch in such a small space. You can buy all those components seperately and save a whole lot of money. I spent about $250 total on setup.

I think I'm going to just buy a $100 grow tent off of amazon and add more lights for next time.

[Lovelife420]

ya i was just going to get some clones from my freinds and when they flowered i was just going to tie them down. And what did you get for your yeilds? I want to build one myself i'm just lazy lol. Plus the dresser is steathly.. Wanted to grow only like 4 plants.

[Lovelife420]

I was checking this out as well- Grow Box | Grow Systems | Grow Your Own (http://www.thescrogbox.com).
I wasn't looking so much as a vertical grow because i'm growing in my closet.. to be honest i've never grown before.. how many plants do you think i could fit if i SOG that dresser? Also with that in mind what would be a good strain for such conditions like this?

[Lovelife420]

I mean lst not sog.

[kingjustin]

I would shoot more for two plants- 4 will bush up and overall yields will be iffy. From two sharkbite plants under a 150w HPS with a cfl sidelight (lst for 8 weeks, then cut out to finish flowering), I got about 3 oz cured. I'm definitely going to up the lighting and the space for next grow.

[tacman7]

I made one box then another for flower when I needed it. Basic 2' deep 4' wide and about 4' tall. They are both full now and the veg cabinet will have to be a flower box too for a while. Cost $11 each, one sheet of OSB radiant barrier. So the cheap wafer board with foil glued onto one side. I use T5 lighting.

I don't know how you'd make it stealth though, may be a fancy paint job. I just have them in my garage.

281131

[painretreat]

Hi there my 2nd Love, I finally took the time and checked out that site! I don't know about the UFO light, I have read mixed reviews of it here, in old threads! You may want to check out lighting thread of "Calling Out Wizard" and see if you get mo info and read others! You definitely need to do alot more reading before you invest that kind of money. On the up side, the boxes are cute! I would guess, if they are in U.S.A. they might be reliable.

If you are in a mmj state, the hydro store sell boxes too! And give advice to you. Not that they always know what they are talking about, but most grow too!

I liked the boxes, a new username of scoggbox came to mind! At any rate, those boxes were nice looking. From U.S.A and shipped in U.S.A, phone them and ask them some questions!

Just about every grow I've read here the grower made their own box. Some really nice cheaper options like using a computer tower and what they did to convert it or rubbermaid grows! And if you have a closet to spare, use the whole thing! Put your clothes in a box! You will need to deal with the "smell" issue, temps, humidity circulation, as well! I read for a long time before I planted my first garden. You seem to have done a bit already.

check out the grow logs and DIY section, which you are probably already doing! pr

[Lovelife420]

I didn't know hydroponic stores sold boxes! theirs one just down my street, their fricking everywhere in denver that's for sure. And i'm just lazy i really don't feel like making my own.. i want it to be stealthy. i live with my mom, and she said it was cool to grow.. but family comes over a lot and it cant smell or look out of places. And i'm currently reading the marijuana grow bible, im halfway though and its a great informational book when it comes to that.. has all sorts of stuff!

[williboy]

LvLf420, My 1st indoor was a closet that I could spare, was enough space for 4 good plants, was all CFLs, puny buds but good vegatative growth, with your HPS you should do well. Look into descriptions of Sea of Green, I think this might be the way to maximize your yields. DWC hydro is probably the easiest way to go from the begining, just need an aquarium pump. (very stealthy). Keep reading, look into some of the threads here too, massive amount of information. Some good e-books are available as well of the subject too.

[CanGroIt]

I don't know how you'd make it stealth though....

How about making it light tight??? Because if light is leaking out....you can bet that light is leaking in.... I too have my cabs in my garage....and as far as anyone can see or tell....I have two homemade cabinets in my garage....

Pics are of my flower cab....

Pic1 is with the light on inside the cab but off in the garage....

Pic2 is with the door open to the top portion of the cab....

Pic3 is a flash version so you can see what's in there better....

Pic4 is a flash version of what the outside of the cab looks like with top portion closed....


281159281160281161281162



I didn't know hydroponic stores sold boxes! theirs one just down my street, their fricking everywhere in denver that's for sure. And i'm just lazy i really don't feel like making my own.. i want it to be stealthy. i live with my mom, and she said it was cool to grow.. but family comes over a lot and it cant smell or look out of places. And i'm currently reading the marijuana grow bible, im halfway though and its a great informational book when it comes to that.. has all sorts of stuff!

Building your own can be so rewarding if you can build one yourself.... As far as stealth....is your family allowed everywhere in your house??? Just saying that you can save a whole bunch of money on a custom box and put that money towards other equipment you'll need.... BTW....if you think that growing cannabis is a water and wait type of hobby....it's not....it takes a time and dedication.... What I'm saying is that you can't be lazy if you want to grow your own....well you can but you'll find that you reep what you sow....

Keep us posted and ask any questions you have....we're all here to help....

Happy Growing :thumbsup: :jointsmile:....

CGI::::::

[Lovelife420]

I mean as far as building a stealth grow box im feeling lazy about it, as far as growing it my dedication is full on! My family consists of three older cousins "around my age". But i have two younger ones that are just crazy. They need some major aderall lol. But if they saw a cabinet i'm sure it would blend in. And with that amount of space in the cabinet i was considering buying, you think i could lst atleast 2-4 plants? I mean lsting really conserves space cause it takes vertical space to horiztontal by wrapping it around your pots.

[Dutch Pimp]

lacking height is the big killer..and see how many?..of the biggest containers you are gonna flower in; fit on the floor of the cabinet.

with all the customers you got around...they will smoke that up in 2 days....:D

[Lovelife420]

just some decent size pots, i know the size of the pot greatly has to do with the size of the plant. because of root growth. And lmao, my little 6 year old cousins pulling a cheech and chong! lol