Royal Blood Line?

[prettygirlsmokes420]

So I been thinkin alot about Christianity lately ( and watching a lot of movies ;) )
About the lies that were supposedly about Jesus and Mary and Christianity in a whole.
What's yalls general opinion about the royal bloodline?
Were Jesus and marry married with kids?
Did she sneak his body from where the ppl layed him, and they mistook it for ressurection?
Did she really escape to France with Jesus body and the children and he really died 22 days later?
Just wondering.
Because there are discrepencies in the bible story of his crucifixion, and the stories in the architectural art in Frances churches, especially the church of Mary.
????
Plz share your opinions. I'm curious...

[GaGrown]

Now this is just my belief as I grew up in the Southern Bible Belt. Me being a Southern Baptist.... I belieive that Mary had a virgin birth.. Baby Jesus was born a King. There were 3 wise men at his birth. He died on the cross at the hands of the Romans,for the sake of being forgiven for our sins. One of the 2 theives that were by his side on the cross asked him for forgivness of his sins. He was laid to rest in a sealed tomb. Only to arise,on Easter.The birth of his resurrection. My Father is the Head Deacon and my Mama is the Treasurer of the church. I was raised in a strict Bible background. I've kinda backslid somewhat,huh?

Ga.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

Idk, I would reccommend watching the documentary called "Bloodline" the catholic preist, in the Vatican, said himself that there were lies that were not needed to be revieled to Tue public. He said it would cause unnecessary chaos and pain to The American ppl. A man dies because he is thaught to know the location of the real tomb of Mary and possibly Jesus. The movie is riveting, really.
It has me curious...

[GaGrown]

I'm gonna check that out. I stay curious! hint hint!

[rollzone]

hello. very odd title. i was born royally, of supremacy, vainglorious beauty, and rapturous hilarity- and it has been downhill ever since. the premise you confuse about Joseph and Mary and the immaculate conception, the rising from the dead, and Christianity: is a religion of faith. belief in the religion is believing a spirit inhabits your physical presence, without which you would have no life. that is in opposition to science (apparently excepting brilliant scientists), and believers have faith in their Bible as Words from God. the measure of faith is the life Christians live. Christianity has done good in keeping human beings from slaughtering each other. politicians coerce evil from every religion.

[painretreat]

:jointsmile:My ex-First Southern Baptist self says, it is all bull! If you read the Koran or anything else-they all contradict each other. Haven't watched that movie! However, I do know that they say the Bible was written before there were "Americans" to protect. ''

I simply believe, in a "higher power!" And if you don't do life kindly you will be back again! To do it over and "pass."

Nice Thread!

If I beleived the Bible, like a good First South. Baptist, my dogs would not go to "Heaven" and How could we have a Heaven without our pets? Or, how could life be any fun without a party and dancing? Guess, that would be a new thread!:rasta: pr

[kayakush]

i have to say that i dont think there is a bloodline.....jesus and mary did not have children. the bible mentions none of this. he was crucified for being the son of man and a lot of people were afraid of him taking away their power. he helped the masses and preached the kingdom of god is near. he was raised from the dead and will be back.......the end days are here and i have being reading the book of revelation to see whats up. like i said.....be ready to protect yourselves and start stocking up on supplies. the devil controls this world now and then the false prophet will lead the people into a false sense of peace....but who knows........

[LuLzBoaT]

Me like the bible in many way, the bad stuff just metaphors.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

Well, the stained glass Windows in the church of Mary, in France, have her portrayed, with looked right yands with Jesus ( a sighn of marrige) and her belly is big. And if mary birthed Jesus than why would she be portrayed so young? They look the same age, if not, Jesus looks slightly older. What about that?
I do believe society worships a false idol. It is the lord above us we should send praise to. And as for the crucifix, why would I want to wear around a symbol of someone's death around my neck? Many ppl were crucified before Jesus, it was common to be stoned or crucified. I really mean no disrespect to any Christians or anything, I'm just curious. I understand that the point of the matter is that he sacrificed his life to prove a point. But I do not believe the story of how thay say it happened. Plz wathc the movie, as it contains phisical evidence of lies. The priest who works under the pope, in the vatican, even stated that...
Once again, no disrespect... Only curiosity.

[kayakush]

yes the crucifix thing is not for me but i dont think that jesus was or is a false idol. he was the son of man, not a rock or a golden calf or whatever. the word idol has different meetings but Jesus was not an idol. He did nothing really except to tell people the kingdom of god is near and to be prepared. he healed thousands and fed even more. i cant say that Jesus is the son of god definitely as i think no one can. There are so many stories and conspiricy theories around him. there is a lot to take in, and things contradict sometimes, but thats what happens when a man writes down the word of god. over time it is changes to meet the desired effect.
jack herrer was my idol. but jesus is not, he is the lord according to the bible. but hey, read the hindu scriptures that are even older than jewish text and see what they have to say. it is so much more metaphysical. then you got the buddha, who learned the ultimate nirvana. I have read a lot of religion and i have come to the conclusion that they are all written by men, with agendas. they propagate to control the people. but think whatever you wish......seeing is not always believing.....but not seeing and believing is something more........faith....one love

[bigsby]

Why won't the Vatican release the other other gospels? There were 12 after all. They have the writings which would give us a much clearer picture of the man and his life and wife...

[kayakush]

o yeah, pretty girl, i forgot to mention that some of the gospels, Matthew in particular, states that there were guards at the tomb were Jesus was laid to rest, because the high priests were afraid that the believers would take his body and claim he was risen from the dead. If that was the case Mary could not have taken the body to France. I dont know anything about the children, but the da vinci code is all about that.

[CanGroIt]

Why won't the Vatican release the other other gospels? There were 12 after all. They have the writings which would give us a much clearer picture of the man and his life and wife...

Because if they did release them....they wouldn't be able to hold on to the "religion" that's been created from the gospels that have been....

Personally, IMO, it makes sense for people of a certain bloodline to hold certain positions of "power".... After all, if I was to ever be a ruler of a land, I'd make sure my decendents would have the best possible chance of attaining the same power as I.... But I think that's just a part of human nature....

Now to throw in some extra info....

Early ancient Egyptian cultures, who were very spiritual, first believed that when your physical body dies, the heart of your soul is weighed to decide where you go in the after life....weighed by the gate keeper of the spiritual realm.... The metaphor scale was like a teeter totter scale, your heart on one side and your actions on the other.... If your heart was light because of good, you were meant to have a good after life.... If your heart was heavy, you were condemned to a bad after life.... During this early Egyptian culture....spiritual healing was free to everyone....

As time went on and new rulers came in to power....the culture shifted.... Once believed that the gate keeper would weigh your heart against your actions....they changed their belief into that they could bribe the gate keeper with money so as to get into the good after life.... That's when cultures started to praise wealth in the form materials....because the new belief was that you could buy your way in....

And the motto hasn't changed since then.... Have you gone to church lately??? Spiritual healing isn't free anymore is it??? Unless you do it on your own.... But if you want to be part of a group of people who want spiritual healing, you'll most likely be asked for 10% to participate....

I do believe in a higher power....I just don't believe that I should fork over my earnings to talk to that higher power....but that's just me....

CGI::::::

[bigsby]

I believe in the multi-verse... and that's about it.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

There is written proof by the priest name sonier, that states that Mary was a queen and she and her soldiers carried the body of Jesus out of jeruselem and into France. And the ppl mistook his missing body for his ressurection. In the church of mary, in France, there is a portrait of Mary and two other men carrying jjesus body with the moon in the upper corner. It is against Jewish law to touch a dead body at night, so she was obviously sneaking.... In the movie, there's a part where they interview an accoutant for the priory of scion. He seemed very nervous to tell them details and coded his words a bit as to be careful what he revealed. Twards the end of the interview, a man at the back of the resuraunt writes something on a piece of paper, sets it on the table next to the accountant and walks out. Never uttering a word. The accountant stated when he started how dangerous the subject was. Whatever that man wrote to him on the paper visibly scared the accountant. He wouldnt speak a word from then on out. He had a terrified look on his face, and he got up and left.
Whatever their hiding, they're very intent on keeping it hid.
They have no problem killing to keep the secret.
The preist for the priory of scion said himself that members who dissobey will most likely become dis eased from a cerebral hemmerage "which is indicitave of a certian type of poison" he stated word for word.
Later that week, an informant they were gonna interview died at a party from a cerebral hemmerage.
Another guy was in a fatal car wreck in the same tunnel princess diana was killed in (I don't believe her death was accidental) ...
All too suspicious for my liking.
And one more thing, u said Jesus spread the word that god was coming.... He never came back then...
And supposedly he will come in the future...
Yeah, if god is what he is, I dont think he would come to earth himself, u see what happened to the one he sent to spread the word back then...
And if the ppl of earth tried to kill god, shit, I know if I was god on earth and that happened to me, I would punish them for eeternity. Maybe that's what he's doing, like Pr said, life on earth is a test to make sure you are suitable to be in the presence of a god....
Love the input! Keep it comin! ;D

[LuLzBoaT]

Me morally can't object to any humans choice in higher powers or what they choose to call it. Theology waz interesting classes.

[jiggsaw]

I don't believe any bible , I think they are just old made up stories. Organized religion is just a trick to control people. I am completely free from any of that I do whatever I want. I still have morals and don't hurt people but I decide what's right and wrong nobody can tell me shit. I follow nobody.

[rollzone]

hello again. there are only women and men in our social living. all religions are about God. a man or woman can believe, or not believe in God. i follow a religion commanding to not kill other human beings. without this one higher tenet, slaughtering everybody for my own gain satisfies my ego. this separation with my mind by my id embellishes my spirit, and saves lives. the stories, brainwashing videos, or rewritten histories of differing religions; do nothing to fascinate the intellect of my 'self'. the heart and the mind live together in warm religious abeyance to social order, with honest religion at the foundation. my spirit honors the miraculous lives of all human beings. intellectual exploration is an ego driven mental exercise, demonstrating an empty void thirsting for fulfillment -physical compassion can not fill. many explore religion wanting contentment, only to fall further into despair. an honest spiritual journey steps inside your self. either you are a woman or man walking with God, or not. the questions of suspicions and deceptions can only be answered by the measure of faith in your own belief. what God would you believe?

[LuLzBoaT]

I don't believe any bible , I think they are just old made up stories. Organized religion is just a trick to control people. I am completely free from any of that I do whatever I want. I still have morals and don't hurt people but I decide what's right and wrong nobody can tell me shit. I follow nobody.

If you no kill people, you follow social contract theory (like most), and therefore do not do whatever you want. Ethics debates are pointless. And people do tell you "shit",whatever that means, otherwise you would run around doing as you please killing and stealing everything.....thus sending yourself into a state of nature as described by Locke.

Follow a religon, dont follow religon. Nobody care. Just dont force me to practice your religon. Me like sound of morning Church Bells mixed with the Call to Prayer from the mosques where I have home. I find it soothing as I code and manipulate Adobe.

[jiggsaw]

LOL I don't know about you but I don't want to kill people. I didn't say anything about social rules I meant the bible's rules. You obviously know what I meant or you wouldn't have commented on it. I do what I want not what the bible says, the bible was written by men, I follow no man. Pretty straight forward.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

What do u think god thinks of us? Between the crucifixion of an innocent man, the holocaust of innocent ppl, and the lies and blood our history is composed of...
I think god should recall our opposable thumbs...
;)

[LuLzBoaT]

You still do what man says, man writes laws you abide cause you dont wanna go jail.

[LuLzBoaT]

Gods enjoy watching human make of life what they choose. Good and Bad.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

You still do what man says, man writes laws you abide cause you dont wanna go jail.

I personally, would rather go to jail, than kill innocent ppl.
I'm sure "Gods" don't enjoy something that they ( or it, or him, or whatever) created, being so self destructive and destroying an intricate object (earth) they spent time to create.
No disrespect, I love that Yall share these things.
I am also just voicing my thaughts and opinions... ;)
Thx :)

[jiggsaw]

I actually thought about it and I really don't obey any laws LOL. I drive however fast I want, I get in fights, I drink and drive sometimes. I really don't like to drink though unless I have weed or I will drink and drive because I get bored. The only laws I obey is I don't steal or kill , but I don't want to do those things. Most laws are common sense and are only required to stop mentally deranged people.

[darthcannabis]

Ill just say that I've been a proud godless heathen since 1978. I was pretty much raised in the traditional barbarous. Rural Northerner manner, witch is to explain our world with our own ideas and extrapolations based opon our own observations, and never needed a religion to developed a personal code of honor morality respect. If believeing in all that Biblical shit enhances your life then that's good. But if you can't admit that it was a tool to help and control people, then your just delusional.

[prettygirlsmokes420]

I actually thought about it and I really don't obey any laws LOL. I drive however fast I want, I get in fights, I drink and drive sometimes. I really don't like to drink though unless I have weed or I will drink and drive because I get bored. The only laws I obey is I don't steal or kill , but I don't want to do those things. Most laws are common sense and are only required to stop mentally deranged people.
Hehe jiggs ur.such a rebel!! Be careful ;)

[darthcannabis]

There's only one law pretty girl. "TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED. " and I don't even require anyone to have faith in me to be saved. Beat that jeasus!

[GaGrown]

Come on now! Don't be blasphemis. There is something called your last supper. I believe!!!!!:thumbsup:

Ga.

[williboy]

Well Pretty, There are sacred texts from many religions and I do think they all have pieces of the truths. I think the most powerful of any statements made by Jesus was " Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". If we could all just live that... All the rest of the "Rules" just get taken care kind of automatically don't they? Wouldn't matter what religion, color, sex, or anything else you were. Wouldn't have little groups with a whole lot and big groups with a whole lot less. But maybe the real lesson might be that "We" are a whole lot more than these bodies we find ourselves in. We all find our paths to the truth but I believe that the clearest one is inward and just being still and listening for your answer.

[kayakush]

going back to royal blood line thing pgs420, the gospel of John states that Jesus appeared before he apostles many times after his resurrection. Also, i forget right now which gospel, but one of them states that that thomas did not believe it was jesus and asked to put his fingers into jesus's wounds.........after that i dont know..............

[LuLzBoaT]

I personally, would rather go to jail, than kill innocent ppl.
I'm sure "Gods" don't enjoy something that they ( or it, or him, or whatever) created, being so self destructive and destroying an intricate object (earth) they spent time to create.
No disrespect, I love that Yall share these things.
I am also just voicing my thaughts and opinions... ;)
Thx :)

Who is to say what the "gods" think is morally correct or incorrect? Not I. The "Euthyphro" debate lives on lulz.

[LuLzBoaT]

Dan Brown is pure genius lulzzzzzzzz

[rollzone]

hello. i enjoy discussing religion. it is a topic difficult to convey, and interesting to question. discussing is sometimes the most religious experience of my day. this is far different from personal prayer. i want to remain neutral, and inspire personal introspection, and at the same time my spirit burns to share what i know for others to experience, and that is a conundrum. there is already a devout social engineering scientist on this thread. to him i would question: how is it we can speak words and talk with each other, unlike all other species on this planet? have you ever known love, and how would you describe it? if religion IS a spiritual engineering to control people for good, why would you not appreciate it? religion remains to me spiritual development. i was born with a pure spirit, and life degrades it. with religion i can rebuild it. i only regret never being able to purely live again the spirit with which i was born, until perhaps when i die- into a non physical existence again. can you recall how you felt as a baby? when you had no fear, and the happiness was overwhelming: do you recall?

[DonPanchoVilla]

Bloodlines Doc. is eye opening

[firstaid]

Hey rollzone.
I think we are in a interesting time that so much has been well controlled that it gets to a point we have to decide on out own what to believe then go with it. Beware, you dont become a 33rd by bieng stupid, religion is so well trained to psychologically alter us so we by the hymnn or prayer fall into the beat of the drum without to much of a fight. I belive your right Rollzone, the spirit it what turns or gives us the direction. I can tell you I know a a couple churches that hide under the gospel. Be very careful who you follow! We are in the new world now. Religion and politics is very hard to seperate.