Double Harvest With a Few Seeds?

[Esteban1]

Question:


As a first timer I Had a great harvest this year. So good I allowed the 4 "Widow" plants to extend into a "Double Harvest". So here's the deal..... Of course they were all "feminized" female cuz everything that was crushed & vaped contained no seeds up until a week or so prior where I crushed up some flower & to my amazement noticed a seed in the mix. Thought nothing about it until today where again, crushed up some more from the "2nd batch" (Double Harvest) & noticed 2 more nice sized seeds. Not upset cuz this batch is way powerful But WTF happened?



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[GaGrown]

Any kind of stress will promote a plant to hermie.. My guess,it was a light leak or heat stress. I've found those to be the 2 main causes for one to hermie. You did cut from it,too.. Another stressing action. Even with reveggin'..

Ga.

[Esteban1]

"Ga"


Thanx bro.... Still some lethal azz mj, just wanted to understand a tad more. Heard about that & yea, they were REALLY STRESSED on multiple levels, Double Harvest Cutting, Heat, Introduced different "FF" micro nutrients to the mix, Temperature fluctuations, etc.



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[GaGrown]

You could eliminate one point of stress by not double harvesting.. Just cut off the buds you plan to harvest and then reveg. You won't lose your strain that way. Not so sure it won't hermie on ya while veggin',though.. Due to the amount of stress it has gone through. Another thing that might help you is to get the heat issue in check. Or at least below the 80 degree mark. They stop growing or grow sluggish while sujected to that amount of heat for a period of time. I can't say that all my grows have been a success! I had to learn,too! Thats why we are here..To learn how not to screw things up!

Ga.

[CanGroIt]

But WTF happened?


Like Ga said....most likely due to stress....

I recently over fert a batch and suffered serious yield reduction because of it.... However the stress caused at least one seed to be found, so far.... I'm actually kind of glad that I found this seed....cause I don't really know how old the mother clone I got of that particular strain is.... So if I can germ this one and define it as female, I'll know the clones are from a seed mother and not a clone mother....

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[GaGrown]

I've kept a mother four 5 years. Shes gone now, but I can say a clone from a seed mama has more vigor than one from a mama as old as the one I kept for that long. Don't get me wrong though.. They were not weak plants. I just like a fresher mama these days. Who don't?

Ga.

[GrowGoddess]

I am sure in this case it was stress that caused the seeds.
However, pollination can also occur without any mistakes, stress, or strain problems. I was reading an article a few years back that the pollen count in New York at that time was 70% marijuana! Pollen can travel many miles, so it is possible to get a seed here and there. Where I live there are most likely a lot of "gorilla grows" (outdoor in the woods and fields). Usually in the fall I will get a seed here and there. I presume it is from those outdoor grows.

[Esteban1]

Awesome:


One more thingy, I revved up the fan to "med"..... This is also a good thingy Y/N? Thanks to ALL for the heads up!


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[GaGrown]

Yes.. Because the stems will become stockier and sturdy! Just don't have it blowing them over where they have to spring back up. They could break at soil level or the lesser.. Bruise. Just kinda make them dancin' girls. Ya know what I mean?

Ga.

[Esteban1]

"Ga"


You're the Man!



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[GaGrown]

Just doin' what I feel I should!! HELP... If I know it.. I share it... Not greedy with what I know. I can't take all the credit for what I've learned along the way. This site was one of the sites that taught me alot. Due to the ones that had answers to my inquiry.

You'll learn and share as well! Passin' the Buck!:thumbsup:

Ga.

[GrowGoddess]

Yes.. Because the stems will become stockier and sturdy! Just don't have it blowing them over where they have to spring back up. They could break at soil level or the lesser.. Bruise. Just kinda make them dancin' girls. Ya know what I mean?

Ga.

I fully agree, but, if you are growing regular seeds, (not feminized), any extra stress can cause them to naturally form into male plants.
I had read in one of Mel Frank's books that there were studies done on stress and a higher percentage of the plants naturally turning into males due to stress such as wind, dry soil, etc. Mel Frank mentions that a plant needs to reach a certain maturity before it decides if it will be male or female, in this same book. The lower stressed plants had a higher percentage of becoming female. As for me as a grower, I cannot claim whether or not that this is true. I may have just been real lucky and ended up with a higher percentage of female plants throughout my growing experiences. I would only take it into consideration if I were paying a lot of money for the seeds.
Otherwise, I too prefer a little extra stress on the plants, it makes them tougher.

[GaGrown]

This is weird.... Cause I just sprouted 9 and this time,only 2 of 9,were female. And the other 6.. Making 15.. Zero of them were female. Thank God,for clones. I love marijuana multiplication! Dutch is the bean expert! I just like knowin' it's female. Kinda like goin' to a bar..Make sure it's a chick!

Ga.

[Dutch Pimp]

My standard homemade seeds have a consistant 55%-60% female ratio... so, I plant/germinate about 16 seeds. This makes it pretty easy to get my 8 or 9 females. That's the most, I have room for.

With fresh, standard seed bank seeds...I averaged about 35% female; the last two years.

[Esteban1]

Way too funny Ga. This is a frigg'n "Weed Seinfeld Episode" lmao.... Dutch, I only have room for 4, 5 max.



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[GaGrown]

My standard homemade seeds have a consistant 55%-60% female ratio... so, I plant/germinate about 16 seeds. This makes it pretty easy to get my 8 or 9 females. That's the most, I have room for.

With fresh, standard seed bank seeds...I averaged about 35% female; the last two years.

See..... I told ya!

Ga.

[MedicineMan11]

GaGrown
I just keep replacing the mother from best looking clone. Do you think strength and vigor is lost this way.

[GaGrown]

I sure do.. Because... A clone from,a clone,from a clone...Etc.. Loses vigor after the second cutting. The mother is at it best! Then you clone and the clone will be explosive and within months of taking more from the clone.. They tend to decline,but produce well! If ya tend it right. I've been doing the same strains for awhile.You seem to learn more by not changing in mid stream.. I changed in mid stream,before.. How'd that go? Not to good!

I can say that the mama's I have are a clone only generation... Ya'll don't know nuttin' bout that! Neither do I... I made that up!hehe..I might be drinkin' Starbuck's Columbian! My mind must be jittery!

Ga.

[Esteban1]

Seriously:

Ga. & company, You guyz are on sum really good 'shine & brownies made with cannibutter! Again, this is a great "Seinfeld" episode!!!



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[GaGrown]

Round here we got plenty of shine! I'm just stuck on Buds and Crown! Plus... I don't know of but 1 around here I would even trust. Never know what they use for a still.. Safer with BUD! Thumper keg till death!

Ga.

[Esteban1]

LMAO



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